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Topic: [Awesome Miner] - Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 200000 miners - page 565. (Read 703512 times)

legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
Hello and thanks for new version.

Signatum don't work for me.
I have the new coin but it was always "0.00 CHF".
In coins section, I have nothing in blocks, network hash rate, difficulty and Exchange rate.
I have add http://whattomine.com/coins/191.json on the new statistic section, but it's the same.

The only thing is to change manualy.

Thanks.

Yes, can't make it work.
Thanks for the feedback - I've identified the problem. I will make a new release later today with a correction and a few other updates.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
Also, as you probably noticed in their license information, I'm explicitly forbidden to automatically download Excavator from Awesome Miner. So the user experience will not be as good when I move to v1.2.

Well, not really. click through license limitations are really not enforceable. But in any case, you can get around it by embedding a web browser window inside AM that will display the "releases" page or whatever. You could even have AM parse the returned page and discard all parts of the page except the link (they can't enforce a copyright on or enforce a process on the download mechanism of GitHub). The AM user must manually click the download link which makes them responsible for the download, not you. But at the user click AM can intercept the link activation (since it is an owned browser window) and make sure the download goes to a know place where AM can extract it to the right folder and configure it for the end user.

I'm not a lawyer, but I've had over 20 years of experience in IP (both patents and copyrights) and have several device patents (no software patents) to my name. The browser is a part of Windows. There is no fundamental difference, from a license standpoint, if your application launches the browser window as an embedded owned browser window and intercepts and process the users explicit request within the context of the user's desire to add it as a managed program to your program. It's obvious that NiceHash wants their program to really be usable only within their domain, but that's an unfair restriction (and unfair business practice) on a software that is otherwise freely available for separate use.

Of course Excavator using GitHub to host their closed-source application is a questionable use of GitHub in the first place. They just don't want to pay for server bandwidth to host their own proprietary program distribution. Then they use the source control part of GitHub to make a sort of documentation site; again, because they don't want to pay for their own server. There may or may not be anything against the terms of service of GitHub, but it seems at least dishonest and an abuse of what GitHub is meant to be to me.
Thanks for the insightful feedback on this. I have been talking to the responsible person at Nicehash about this before, and from their point of view, I'm not allowed to do automatic download of Excavator v1.2. And I don't want to make any enemies so I will have to agree to that.

As you point out, there are ways of making it easier for the user to make this setup anyway, but right now this has a little lower priority because of the extra work it would require to make something that still gives poor user experience. Right now it's not only the Awesome Miner main application that makes the downloads, but also each Remote Agent.

newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
I don't think I understand. If you go to https://miningpoolhub.com/?page=home&normalize=none and scroll down to the second table, you will see individual coin mining BTC/GH/Day ratings. And the Json return from "http://miningpoolhub.com/index.php?page=api&action=getminingandprofitsstatistics also shows individual coins for the coin mining ports 20xxx rather than the algo mining profit switch ports 17xxx. Doesn't this provide the information you need?
That page contains a few coins, but from Awesome Miner's point of view, MPH is not a source for single coin information because WhatToMine is more complete in terms of coins and information.

But for someone who is only mining with Mining Pool Hub only, then only those coins matter. And it could be argued that MPH rating for BTC/GH/Day for it's own coin pools will be more accurate than WTM because it can account for it's own transaction fees and because it will be based on it's own actual performance.
full member
Activity: 374
Merit: 101
Hello and thanks for new version.

Signatum don't work for me.
I have the new coin but it was always "0.00 CHF".
In coins section, I have nothing in blocks, network hash rate, difficulty and Exchange rate.
I have add http://whattomine.com/coins/191.json on the new statistic section, but it's the same.

The only thing is to change manualy.

Thanks.

Yes, can't make it work.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
Storx is correct here. Awesome Miner is only using WhatToMine for individual coin profit. When mining on Nicehash, zpool or Mining Pool Hub, Awesome Miner uses the API's of these services to figure out the profitability, as these services doesn't mine a fixed coin all the time. From the "outside", it's very difficult to know the profit of mining on these three pools without asking them (via API), so that's what Awesome Miner do.

One small correction, Mining Pool Hub does have coin mining ports in addition to their own auto switching algo mining ports. So Mining Pool Hub should be able to work with fixed coin profit switching. The Multi Pool Miner package has the feature of coin mining on MPH but I haven't tried it.
For port range 17000-17099, Awesome Miner considers Mining Pool Hub as a multi-coin pool that you configure as an Online Service. For the other single-coin pools by Mining Pool Hub, they are just single coin and then Awesome Miner will be using the coin sources like WhatToMine.

I don't think I understand. If you go to https://miningpoolhub.com/?page=home&normalize=none and scroll down to the second table, you will see individual coin mining BTC/GH/Day ratings. And the Json return from "http://miningpoolhub.com/index.php?page=api&action=getminingandprofitsstatistics also shows individual coins for the coin mining ports 20xxx rather than the algo mining profit switch ports 17xxx. Doesn't this provide the information you need?
That page contains a few coins, but from Awesome Miner's point of view, MPH is not a source for single coin information because WhatToMine is more complete in terms of coins and information.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
Also a small issue, but using the 'Save hashrate...' shortcut on a miner does not seem to save the hashrate to the Algorithms page when you click 'OK' - I think this may only happen when you are using Managed Profit Switching (probably because of Unspecified coins) , as I remember it working before I started using that feature (using just Managed Miner)
Also one last request for awhile (everything else is... you know... awesome) - can you include profit on the web interface instead of just revenue?
I will look into this. For the web page it's a bit limited in terms of space, especially if you run on a mobile device. For the desktop web it will probably fit.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094

Excavator v1.2 is not at all compatible with Excavator v1.1 included in Awesome Miner. They completely redesigned both the API and command line options between v1.1 and v1.2, so they are not compatible at all.

At some point I will add support for Excavator v1.2, once they keep the API more stable. There will be quite an implementation effort to support the new v1.2, and so far I don't think this miner has been so popular. Also, as you probably noticed in their license information, I'm explicitly forbidden to automatically download Excavator from Awesome Miner. So the user experience will not be as good when I move to v1.2.

Agree. I am more confused about the 'show/no-show' of custom software in profit profiles... similar issue to

CPU mining with profit switching in AM dev 3.2.2)

Q: How do I set up CPU mining with profit switching in AM?
All predefined mining software (incl. CPU miner in latest v3.2.3) and all Managed Software with Full Compatibility will be listed as available for the profit switcher in the Profit Profiles.

Excavator v1.2 cannot be used at the moment, because it's not yet supported by Awesome Miner
newbie
Activity: 63
Merit: 0
Hello and thanks for new version.

Signatum don't work for me.
I have the new coin but it was always "0.00 CHF".
In coins section, I have nothing in blocks, network hash rate, difficulty and Exchange rate.
I have add http://whattomine.com/coins/191.json on the new statistic section, but it's the same.

The only thing is to change manualy.

Thanks.
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
I don't think I understand. If you go to https://miningpoolhub.com/?page=home&normalize=none and scroll down to the second table, you will see individual coin mining BTC/GH/Day ratings. And the Json return from "http://miningpoolhub.com/index.php?page=api&action=getminingandprofitsstatistics also shows individual coins for the coin mining ports 20xxx rather than the algo mining profit switch ports 17xxx. Doesn't this provide the information you need?


full member
Activity: 322
Merit: 233
Storx is correct here. Awesome Miner is only using WhatToMine for individual coin profit. When mining on Nicehash, zpool or Mining Pool Hub, Awesome Miner uses the API's of these services to figure out the profitability, as these services doesn't mine a fixed coin all the time. From the "outside", it's very difficult to know the profit of mining on these three pools without asking them (via API), so that's what Awesome Miner do.

One small correction, Mining Pool Hub does have coin mining ports in addition to their own auto switching algo mining ports. So Mining Pool Hub should be able to work with fixed coin profit switching. The Multi Pool Miner package has the feature of coin mining on MPH but I haven't tried it.



Yes this is true, but they do not output data from the individual coins for profits per coin, all their data is combined under a single algo still... that is the reason i left out the manual coin mining side of things, because there is no way to add it to online services...
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
Also, as you probably noticed in their license information, I'm explicitly forbidden to automatically download Excavator from Awesome Miner. So the user experience will not be as good when I move to v1.2.

Well, not really. click through license limitations are really not enforceable. But in any case, you can get around it by embedding a web browser window inside AM that will display the "releases" page or whatever. You could even have AM parse the returned page and discard all parts of the page except the link (they can't enforce a copyright on or enforce a process on the download mechanism of GitHub). The AM user must manually click the download link which makes them responsible for the download, not you. But at the user click AM can intercept the link activation (since it is an owned browser window) and make sure the download goes to a know place where AM can extract it to the right folder and configure it for the end user.

I'm not a lawyer, but I've had over 20 years of experience in IP (both patents and copyrights) and have several device patents (no software patents) to my name. The browser is a part of Windows. There is no fundamental difference, from a license standpoint, if your application launches the browser window as an embedded owned browser window and intercepts and process the users explicit request within the context of the user's desire to add it as a managed program to your program. It's obvious that NiceHash wants their program to really be usable only within their domain, but that's an unfair restriction (and unfair business practice) on a software that is otherwise freely available for separate use.

Of course Excavator using GitHub to host their closed-source application is a questionable use of GitHub in the first place. They just don't want to pay for server bandwidth to host their own proprietary program distribution. Then they use the source control part of GitHub to make a sort of documentation site; again, because they don't want to pay for their own server. There may or may not be anything against the terms of service of GitHub, but it seems at least dishonest and an abuse of what GitHub is meant to be to me.

newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
Storx is correct here. Awesome Miner is only using WhatToMine for individual coin profit. When mining on Nicehash, zpool or Mining Pool Hub, Awesome Miner uses the API's of these services to figure out the profitability, as these services doesn't mine a fixed coin all the time. From the "outside", it's very difficult to know the profit of mining on these three pools without asking them (via API), so that's what Awesome Miner do.

One small correction, Mining Pool Hub does have coin mining ports in addition to their own auto switching algo mining ports. So Mining Pool Hub should be able to work with fixed coin profit switching. The Multi Pool Miner package has the feature of coin mining on MPH but I haven't tried it.

newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
Also one last request for awhile (everything else is... you know... awesome) - can you include profit on the web interface instead of just revenue?
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
Last request for today:

Change the installer, so it allows installation to 'C:\Program Files\...'
If you change the path during installation from 'C:\Program Files (x86)\AwsomeMiner' to C:\Program Files\AwesomeMiner' and run the installation, it will be installed to 'C:\Program Files(x86)\AwsomeMiner' anyway. WTF Huh

newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
Also a small issue, but using the 'Save hashrate...' shortcut on a miner does not seem to save the hashrate to the Algorithms page when you click 'OK' - I think this may only happen when you are using Managed Profit Switching (probably because of Unspecified coins) , as I remember it working before I started using that feature (using just Managed Miner)
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
Maybe you messed this one:

I am proposing some enhancements to AM:
[...]
  • Option to start miner sw as window (as is) OR minimized
[...]
[/list]

It is very annoying when the new miner window steals the focus ... whats even worse: Hitting the space bar and the very wrong moment will actually pause the intrusive miner Angry

So please start miners hidden... TIA!  Kiss
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0

Excavator v1.2 is not at all compatible with Excavator v1.1 included in Awesome Miner. They completely redesigned both the API and command line options between v1.1 and v1.2, so they are not compatible at all.

At some point I will add support for Excavator v1.2, once they keep the API more stable. There will be quite an implementation effort to support the new v1.2, and so far I don't think this miner has been so popular. Also, as you probably noticed in their license information, I'm explicitly forbidden to automatically download Excavator from Awesome Miner. So the user experience will not be as good when I move to v1.2.

Agree. I am more confused about the 'show/no-show' of custom software in profit profiles... similar issue to

CPU mining with profit switching in AM dev 3.2.2)

Q: How do I set up CPU mining with profit switching in AM?
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
First of all, thanks for all improvement suggestions on the profit switcher.

The idea is also to support defining GPU profile settings, and in some way apply when for example a miner is starting. Maybe it should be based on specific algorithm conditions to support the scenario you describe with the profit switcher as well.
Please also if you can allow it to revert to defaults when NOT mining, or specify a GPU profile to be used when not mining.

I think this is a pretty common use case - where people use AM to mine on a gaming computer when it is not in use.
newbie
Activity: 32
Merit: 0
Version 3.2.3 (Development preview of 3.3 - Not for production use)

This update is smaller compared to the previous ones, but also includes a number of minor improvements and corrections not listed in detail below.

[...]
- Ccminer 2.1 replaces older Ccminer SP-mod
[...]

Ccminer SP-mod is the fastest miner for keccak on a 1080ti ... so I would keep it.

Suggestion
Add a 'Comment field' to the 'Managed Software' dialog. This might be useful to document the source of the software (not for automatic DL).
Make 'Profit Profiles' & 'Managed software' exportable/importable as a complete package, so people can share their custom tuned profiles.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1094
I really begin to like all the features of AM - great stuff!

A couple of things...

Suggestion UI change

1. I suggest you add 'Main' -> 'Miners' -> 'Summary' -> 'View details...' function to the right-click context menu of the miner itself.
2. In 'View details' -> 'Profit switching' add right-click option 'Mine this...' (will switch mining to the selected algo)

Finding when trying to include Excavator v1.2.11a as custom miner
The miner is hosted here: https://github.com/nicehash/excavator (note the special copyright)

1. Create 'User defined mining software' -> 'Compatibility mode=API only' / 'Compatible Software=Excavator (BETA)' / 'API Port=3456', tick some algos (ethereum, pascal)
2. Try to include it as Mining software in the 'Profit switshing profile properties'. It is not here  Huh
3. Change 'User defined mining software' -> 'Compatibility mode=Command line and API'
4. Go to the 'Profit swiching profile properties'. Now it is available  Smiley. Configure custom path to binaries
5. Deselect all other miners
6. Try to mine with it - no success. Result:
=========================== www.nicehash.com =========================
                Excavator v1.2.11a GPU Miner for NiceHash.
           Copyright (C) 2017 NiceHash. All rights reserved.
Developed by djeZo, zawawa and dropky with help and contributions from
             pallas, Vorksholk, bitbandi, ocminer, Genoil
=========================== www.nicehash.com =========================

Build time: 2017-07-28 11:55:16
Build number: 247
Provided startup commandline:
        "C:\Program Files\CryptoMining\Miners\excavator_v1.2.11a_Win64\excavator.exe"  -a  -s europe.ethash-hub.miningpoolhub.com:17020 -u UselessGuru.Awesome:x -ca  -p 4028

[23:39:43][0x00000d48][info] Log started
[23:39:44][0x00000d48][error] opencl | Failed to get ADL function pointers.
[23:39:44][0x00000d48][error] opencl | Failed to initialize the AMD Display Library (ADL).
[23:39:44][0x00000d48][info] core | Found CUDA device: GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
[23:39:44][0x00000d48][info] api | Listening on 127.0.0.1:3456
[23:39:44][0x00000d48][error] core | Failed to open command file: -p
[23:39:44][0x00000d48][info] core | Initialized!

7. Change 'User defined mining software' -> 'Compatibility mode=API only'
8. Try to mine with it. It connects to the miner but nothing happens. Sad
now here comes the tricky part...
9. Try to add some custom command line parameters in 'Profit switching profile properties'. Miner is not visible anymore, even though the 'Profit profiles' miner counter stays @ '1'  Huh Huh
10. Delete the 'User defined mining software' from step one
11. Go back to  'Profit profiles'. Miner counter stays @ '1'
12. Restore XML Backup  Grin
Excavator v1.2 is not at all compatible with Excavator v1.1 included in Awesome Miner. They completely redesigned both the API and command line options between v1.1 and v1.2, so they are not compatible at all.

At some point I will add support for Excavator v1.2, once they keep the API more stable. There will be quite an implementation effort to support the new v1.2, and so far I don't think this miner has been so popular. Also, as you probably noticed in their license information, I'm explicitly forbidden to automatically download Excavator from Awesome Miner. So the user experience will not be as good when I move to v1.2.
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