Bad Faith in the Gambling Ecosystem - page 3.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on April 05, 2019, 04:22:56 PM

Quote from: maydna on April 05, 2019, 07:27:39 AM

There will always be false reviews just to pretend that the company was making a great thing for their customer. But in the end, the good customer will know that is a fake review. Besides that, if the companies want to make a competition, the good company will always be the winner, and they don't make a mistake by making a false review or anything that could lead them to lose the customer.

The customer cannot make in any mistake (and if they are already made a mistake) the company will tell the situations with the details explanation, and if the customer can know and understand what the mistake is, I am sure that they will admit that they are making a mistake and not the company.

The customer will protect these companies by making the right review and honest. They will support the company if the company is right and still making good things to the customer. And related to the gambling industry, there will always be a bad and good inside the gambling business and only the right company that will survive and could gain more customer because they are very recommended and have a good reputation among the others.

Fake reviews are everywhere. Most of the paid listing sites do that in favor of their clients.
But the real gamer knows the real deal. They will try it for themselves and verify if the claims are true or not.
And he will check for legit feedbacks from fellow gamers. In time, we will know who is saying the truth.
Actual experience also will testify what is really going on in that gambling site. Just test it with small amount and see for yourself.

That is very true. The gamblers will not always believe with the gambling website before they can try by themselves. They need to check the website, search for the truth and if he found that the gambling website is legit, then he will use it as his place to gamble.

The first thing that we must check is their deposit and withdraw because that will be the main thing that every gambler wants to do after they win the game. If they don't have a problem with deposit and withdraw, then they can continue to gamble and do another withdraw for their win money.

Only with the checking for every gambling website, we can eliminate the fake reviews, and we could know what gambling website which is legit and which is not. That is a must thing that gamblers to do before they deposit in large money or withdraw large money.

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Gambling sites will always be there. We have to expect that gambling is seen as wrong stuff but you don't have to worry about it then.
Imagine you own a company, what should you do to own profits? Strategies. Fake reviews, fake users and fake winning rate are the strategies that were proven and effective to catch people and earn profits. If it's a false accusation, nothing will be held. You can still keep what you have and that is the end of the story.

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They would probably protect themselves. And also the community which uses their services if they did really good. Well, that is business, sometimes business will need to bow down to customers. But in the end it is still the customers' money that they wanted and they will get.

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Thinking that the customer is always right is just like saying you are not adapting to change. In our current generation today, it's like a false saying because people have become arrogant towards and took advantage of that. Being humble should be the right attitude and not thinking about just because you are a customer; you are always right.

The current situation of the casinos are not any of our concern unless you own one, you should be taking care of it. I'm just saying that it's better to focus on other things that you could do something about not something you could talk about and not follow through.

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Quote from: jvdp on April 04, 2019, 06:01:22 PM

It is not bad faith and all we may consider it as bad understanding over gambling investment and way of approaching. Plenty of gambling investors still available to make their fund on gambling and loose the money without proper knowledge on games.
KYC things and restrictions notice were poped up on site they may pin the VPN and using it who knows.

I am also more directed to it, not a non-trusting company or a fake identity, but rather to the company that knows its customers, and maybe they give a limit to each customer, for example multiple accounts are prohibited. this is not a bad thing, and kyc can still be accepted.

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Quote from: roosbit on April 03, 2019, 09:02:22 PM

Are these business practices of saying the customer is always right justifiable? And who protects these companies if reputation is gold in the crypto world??

It's different. Every case is unique.

Fake reviews and shilling are part of the industry. Bad PR is nothing new really but there's a way to not get confused by it.
When you go online you're bombarded with information good and bad, real and fake. You have to learn to trust only verified information and do the work to check every bit yourself before you believe it.

When I see advertising I check it if it's real and not fake. Fake advertising is shilling and you can really notice it if you try
When I see scam accusations I also look for proof to confirm it.

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Quote from: maydna on April 05, 2019, 07:27:39 AM

There will always be false reviews just to pretend that the company was making a great thing for their customer. But in the end, the good customer will know that is a fake review. Besides that, if the companies want to make a competition, the good company will always be the winner, and they don't make a mistake by making a false review or anything that could lead them to lose the customer.

The customer cannot make in any mistake (and if they are already made a mistake) the company will tell the situations with the details explanation, and if the customer can know and understand what the mistake is, I am sure that they will admit that they are making a mistake and not the company.

The customer will protect these companies by making the right review and honest. They will support the company if the company is right and still making good things to the customer. And related to the gambling industry, there will always be a bad and good inside the gambling business and only the right company that will survive and could gain more customer because they are very recommended and have a good reputation among the others.

Fake reviews are everywhere. Most of the paid listing sites do that in favor of their clients.
But the real gamer knows the real deal. They will try it for themselves and verify if the claims are true or not.
And he will check for legit feedbacks from fellow gamers. In time, we will know who is saying the truth.
Actual experience also will testify what is really going on in that gambling site. Just test it with small amount and see for yourself.

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I still have faith in the gambling system, especially now that projects like faireum.io has revolutionized it.

I have faith in gambling industry and it is highly important we are able to keep faith with the blockchain related one. I find it very difficult to said anything negative against any gambling project that has cryptocurrencies relationship. We should no that investments in trading and gambling entails alot of FOMO and that is why we should takes responsibility for our actions on cryptocurrencies.

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Without the trust we cannot survive here in gambling and is the income only came along with your luck and the trust based system so it can be important to be faith among the the gambling sites and also the profit that we can be we made by ourselves in this field.

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People have always viewed gambling with negative perceptions and at that either the mistake come from them they always pass the blame to the casino I don't know why, ever since the arrival of cryptocurrency gambling they have eradicated the traditional casino houses that always place lots of restrictions on participation and location problem but that is a thing of the past now it great to see more gambling sites coming up and with incredible features.

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There will always be false reviews just to pretend that the company was making a great thing for their customer. But in the end, the good customer will know that is a fake review. Besides that, if the companies want to make a competition, the good company will always be the winner, and they don't make a mistake by making a false review or anything that could lead them to lose the customer.

The customer cannot make in any mistake (and if they are already made a mistake) the company will tell the situations with the details explanation, and if the customer can know and understand what the mistake is, I am sure that they will admit that they are making a mistake and not the company.

The customer will protect these companies by making the right review and honest. They will support the company if the company is right and still making good things to the customer. And related to the gambling industry, there will always be a bad and good inside the gambling business and only the right company that will survive and could gain more customer because they are very recommended and have a good reputation among the others.

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Quote from: roosbit on April 03, 2019, 09:02:22 PM

But what am really interested to learn about this industry...is do we have users, shills or competitors that are in it to give false reviews or generally bad press in the name of discrediting these companies??

Yes, there are people who are paid a big amount of money to do a review and make the site look good or not, especially the well-known review site.

Quote from: roosbit on April 03, 2019, 09:02:22 PM

Are these business practices of saying the customer is always right justifiable?

Every business that you know has this motto, but there is some extent that business has the right to refuse a customer.

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In business, there are always competitions in each company and gambling is a sort of business. Correct, they are spreading bad faith in gambling system because they know that this industry will get more profit from the investors. Of course, we can't deny the fact that it is possible to happen that black propaganda was always there to destroy the reputation in the gambling system. But I won't listen to them even others if they know how gambling works.

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Quote from: roosbit on April 03, 2019, 09:02:22 PM

Ever since crypto gambling came alive, many of us have enjoyed these services without the need of know your customer aka KYC and avoided any territorial restrictions that come with most of our fiat casino and sports books. But what am really interested to learn about this industry...is do we have users, shills or competitors that are in it to give false reviews or generally bad press in the name of discrediting these companies?? I don't know about you guys but I have seen many crypto companies being put on the chopping board even when we customer's/players are in the wrong but still the company has to take the bullet and put it's reputation on the line....Are these business practices of saying the customer is always right justifiable? And who protects these companies if reputation is gold in the crypto world??

There are some crypto gambling sites using shill to show that they are also a trusted site but if you spand 10 or more minutes on google about researching a gambling site you can find the actual review about the site so they are not a big threat to the reputation of gambling site.Don't just blindly play on any gambling sites just read few reviews from different sources.

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It's with the house/gambling site to prove it wrong, and coming out from that type of bad publicity will bring them more be trusted, how they handle this type of issue can bring them much stronger business, we can't deny it that there's really competitors that will try to make the site looks bad, though it will be hard to prove it but in some cases it's really happened.

Reputable gambling business got established with same fate, they just got a good solutions that's why gamblers still using their services.

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Fake reviews were quite common. This can be seen with everywhere, even with reputed networks this can be seen. It is a kind of marketing tool that's been used to make them listed top on the specific service rendering. Till date gambling network with cryptocurrency isn't that untrusty. As gambling industry has contributed big to the growth of bitcoin, the ecosystem is highly recommended from my view.

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I wouldn't say it's normal, but it's been practice not just in gambling industry, but almost business when there is a stiff and cut-throat competition. So I don't rely on reviews, but I closely watch the gambling site or the gamblers response to that particular site. Maybe if someone trusted or reputable here reported that he didn't have a good experience on that website, so that's a red flag already.

Perhaps you can also try it for yourself, and see the experience, if it's true or not. It's a fraudulent practice, I agree, so not only in investing we need to investigate, we also need to dig deeper on gambling sites that we wanted to play our money with.

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Quote from: livingfree on April 04, 2019, 10:54:12 PM

When there's a competition, it's part of it. It's not just about gambling and casino's but in any industry, you see reviews that are being published to give bad publicity to reduce their customers pool. There's some reviews too that has a main thing to do but to give good reviews. Every company is open for critic but those reviews that's giving them bad impression intentionally is a desperate move from their competitors. And if you're worried about protecting them, don't worry customers who are loyal to their casino and experiences heaven will not listen to hearsays.

You have a good point, we cant deny that this "fake reviews" practice is happening everywhere. That's why we should not rely on reviews completely, we should be able to filter which reviews are honest and which reviews are fake. This is why this forum is very helpful, I will only trust reviews made by users with good trust or good experiences, obviously there should be valid proofs of the review as well.

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If it is false accusations then it won't hold anything right?

The casino that's been put into the spotlight will have nothing to lose since it's a fake review and fake accusations. They can simply put all the proof out and it's up to the gaming public which one to believed.

You will noticed that there are accusations around the forum, again, if it's baseless, that thread will simply die and be forgotten because gamblers are also smart people, they don't just listen to anyone, specially if they smell something fishy or the real motive of the accuser.

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When there's a competition, it's part of it. It's not just about gambling and casino's but in any industry, you see reviews that are being published to give bad publicity to reduce their customers pool. There's some reviews too that has a main thing to do but to give good reviews. Every company is open for critic but those reviews that's giving them bad impression intentionally is a desperate move from their competitors. And if you're worried about protecting them, don't worry customers who are loyal to their casino and experiences heaven will not listen to hearsays.

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