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Quote from: LoyceV on May 29, 2022, 08:57:19 AM

Have you reported the posts?

I can't speak for my cycle-mate, but I have reported BADecker's posts with all sorts of violations, including plagiarism. The only thing that is handled properly is multiposting, everything else is ignored.

Quote from: Lucius on May 29, 2022, 08:22:50 AM

If 10 or 20 members report these posts as plagiarism in the right way (with the source), then I don’t see how anyone could ignore it. That member cannot be above the rules, even though P&S is one of the boards that is obviously completely out of the focus of the administration.

See above. And I don't think any proper report from any member should be ignored.

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Quote from: LoyceV on May 29, 2022, 08:57:19 AM

Quote from: Lucius on May 29, 2022, 08:22:50 AM

If 10 or 20 members report these posts as plagiarism in the right way (with the source), then I don’t see how anyone could ignore it.

I don't think "voting" by sending in many reports helps.

It may not always help, but I know from experience that some of my plagiarism reports only got handled when someone else reported the same post. If 10 people with a high reputation agree on something it will have a much bigger effect than if there is only one member behind it.

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If I remember correctly, I had reported a few of his posts in the past, but to no avail. He'd ruin any threads I made regarding Covid or similar, along with the other conspiracy theorist, Tash. I don't really bother if you have a different opinion than mine, but constantly posting gibberish and spamming my threads is annoying to say the least. Because of these two users, I had locked a topic of mine due to the spam it had accumulated, just by those two. From now on, I'll resort to creating self-moderated threads, a feature I had completely forgotten about.

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Quote from: LoyceV on May 29, 2022, 08:57:19 AM

Have you reported the posts?

I'm certain I reported the first one, otherwise I wouldn't have known about it to reference it in this thread. I gave up reporting on P&S a long time ago though when it was clear that it was a waste of time.

Quote from: LoyceV on May 29, 2022, 08:57:19 AM

I always assumed the rules were meant for threats against forum users only:

I fall firmly in to the second post I linked, as I'm sure a handful of other forum users do too. That post is direct threat that I should be "hunted down and executed", in his words.

Quote from: LoyceV on May 29, 2022, 08:57:19 AM

Advocating to change this, no matter what the subject is, is just dumb.

All of BADecker's posts could be described as dumb, but that is besides the point. Being dumb isn't against the rules. Off topic spam, zero value posts, plagiarism, and death threats are.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on May 29, 2022, 07:48:36 AM

What about his plagiarism?

This post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60185855
Same copy paste here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56231030
And here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55119252

All without any source provided, all taken from this Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1210703194252357637

Have you reported the posts?

Quote from: BADecker on November 03, 2021, 06:04:22 PM

8. No threats to inflict bodily harm, death threats.

As for the second post: changing laws to make past events a crime goes against everything a decent society should stand for:

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on May 29, 2022, 07:48:36 AM

Or his hundreds of posts telling people to drink bleach?

By the age someone can read, I'm hoping they're smart enough not to believe everything they read on the internet.

Quote from: Lucius on May 29, 2022, 08:22:50 AM

If 10 or 20 members report these posts as plagiarism in the right way (with the source), then I don’t see how anyone could ignore it.

I don't think "voting" by sending in many reports helps.

I barely read Politics & Society, and clearly I don't miss much. It's also much easier to keep a Switzerland image by not engaging in political discussions.

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Quote from: icopress on May 29, 2022, 07:55:55 AM

I still can't get my head around how it is possible to be such a callous and brainless guy.

Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on May 29, 2022, 08:47:00 AM

What's up with BADecker and why is he here anyway? 96.2% of his posts belong to P&S and Off-Topic. I don't blame him for not talking about bitcoin often; it's obvious that he doesn't know what is he talking about.

Here's the thing: He's allowed to be callous, to be brainless, to post exclusively in P&S, and be completely misinformed about bitcoin. He can say things which piss people off, and he can say things which are provably incorrect, both of which he does regularly. None of that is reason to ban him, though.

But his repeated and blatant disregard for the few rules we have is. I've seen much less egregious cases of off topic spam being deleted, and I've seen much less egregious cases of plagiarism being banned. Why does he get special treatment?

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What's up with BADecker and why is he here anyway? 96.2% of his posts belong to P&S and Off-Topic. I don't blame him for not talking about bitcoin often; it's obvious that he doesn't know what is he talking about. Also, does anybody know why he ends each post with a "Cool" smiley?

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on May 29, 2022, 07:48:36 AM

Far better users have been banned for far less. But BADecker continues to be unmoderated, for reasons unknown.

Probably because there's no moderation in neither of the sub-forums he frequents.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on May 29, 2022, 07:48:36 AM

What about his plagiarism?

If 10 or 20 members report these posts as plagiarism in the right way (with the source), then I don’t see how anyone could ignore it. That member cannot be above the rules, even though P&S is one of the boards that is obviously completely out of the focus of the administration.

Quote from: icopress on May 29, 2022, 07:55:55 AM

I still can't get my head around how it is possible to be such a callous and brainless guy. I could report that plagiarism by creating a post in the appropriate thread, but what about the ethical side? I am an interested person and some may think that my post will be biased.

Plagiarism or any other violation of the rules of the forum and their reporting should have nothing to do with any personal disputes or who is of which nationality. Just use the "report to moderator" button and report that post as plagiarism, and if enough of us do that, I don’t believe anyone will be able to ignore that. Vires in Numeris

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on May 29, 2022, 07:48:36 AM

[...] Far better users have been banned for far less. But BADecker continues to be unmoderated, for reasons unknown.

I confess yesterday I could hardly restrain myself not to break loose.

I still can't get my head around how it is possible to be such a callous and brainless guy. I could report that plagiarism by creating a post in the appropriate thread, but what about the ethical side? I am an interested person and some may think that my post will be biased.

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Quote from: Pmalek on May 29, 2022, 04:01:35 AM

Share a few of those links here...

So even ignoring his repeated breaking of rules 1 and 2 (zero value and off topic)...

What about his plagiarism?

This post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60185855
Same copy paste here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56231030
And here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55119252

All without any source provided, all taken from this Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1210703194252357637

Or maybe his death threats? https://ninjastic.space/post/60202521
Or this one? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58340521
Or his hundreds of posts telling people to drink bleach?

Far better users have been banned for far less. But BADecker continues to be unmoderated, for reasons unknown.

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Quote from: Pmalek on May 29, 2022, 04:01:35 AM

How does a report of yours look like for a post of his that should be deleted? What do you write there? Do the same type of reports you make get handled in other forum boards?

There is not much to report on an off-topic post - I can try to describe why a post is off topic but the mod still needs to look into the thread and understand the context, they aren't just gonna take my word for it, are they? Anyway, I tried everything, from "off topic - not about XYZ, personal attack, link spam, etc" to just "off topic", doesn't seem to make a difference. I know someone is looking at those reports because if I report "multipost" it gets merged quickly. Not sure why "off topic" doesn't get even a Bad.

Quote from: Pmalek on May 29, 2022, 04:01:35 AM

Share a few of those links here...

I didn't want to get into details because that may derail this thread as well.

Anyway, here is a thread where one user is sharing their experience in a... uhm... significant contemporary event. The topic of the thread is clear, it's not a discussion about the causes of the event etc (and there are plenty of threads about that). Yet BADecker steps in with copypasta and personal attacks and other garbage on page 5, and derails an interesting thread.

Or just browse his post history: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/badecker-149737

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on May 29, 2022, 06:19:56 AM

I don't think it should be that difficult. There are plenty of people in P&S who post absolute nonsense, but at least manage to mostly stay on topic and can make a coherent post, even if the content of that post is moronic. And then there are people like BADecker and Tash who just post low quality and off topic trash which contributes absolutely nothing to any thread.

We delete off topic posts and posts which add nothing in other boards. Why not P&S?

I do agree somewhat, there's definitely a few cases of pretty straight forward off topic replies, or just genuinely low quality posts. Although, I do think you need someone in the P&S section that probably doesn't care all too much about politics, otherwise personal beliefs, and views can get in the way.

So, maybe looking at reporters list there, determining who has accurate reports, and then whether or not they've shown any particular strong views. Normally you probably want a moderator that's somewhat involved in that community/section, but I think P&S might be where that differs from the norm. I don't know the answer really, that's theymos' headache fortunately for us, but I do tend to agree that the section probably does need a little bit more scrutiny, which I do believe theymos knows hence him creating that thread a while back for elections.

I don't see the reports there, but I can just imagine the amount when users are debating, and then trying to get the other person's post removed. So, you've got that pressure from the general forum users to clean up the section, and then you've got to sift through the bad reports, which I'd have a guess it's higher than the average section.

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BADecker's being doing this for years and has never been moderated. Might as well treat P&S as Off Topic 2 for all the spam in there. If you want an actual discussion on something, self moderation is a must.

Quote from: Welsh on May 29, 2022, 05:38:36 AM

Probably does need a moderator, although I do believe it'll be a difficult job finding someone who's impartial enough, that they don't just delete things that seem like utter crap because they don't agree with the users opinion, but also get rid of the stuff that is just low quality.

I don't think it should be that difficult. There are plenty of people in P&S who post absolute nonsense, but at least manage to mostly stay on topic and can make a coherent post, even if the content of that post is moronic. And then there are people like BADecker and Tash who just post low quality and off topic trash which contributes absolutely nothing to any thread.

We delete off topic posts and posts which add nothing in other boards. Why not P&S?

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on May 28, 2022, 09:33:07 PM

Does P&S even have an active moderator right now?

No dedicated moderator, theoretically global moderators, and patrollers (well and, admins) are the only ones that'll see reports there. The latter obviously only posts made by newbies that have been reported, which doesn't happen often.

Probably does need a moderator, although I do believe it'll be a difficult job finding someone who's impartial enough, that they don't just delete things that seem like utter crap because they don't agree with the users opinion, but also get rid of the stuff that is just low quality. I think off topic replies probably do need to be either split to a separate thread or removed, as I have found that it tends to happen a lot. Especially, when the history of one thread, and a debate sort of leaks into others.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on May 28, 2022, 09:33:07 PM

Where's Flying Hellfish when you need him? (seriously, where did he go off to?)

Suchmoon, not being an aficionado of the P&S section, I have to ask: do you visit there to participate in the insanity or just to help keep it clean via reporting? If it's the latter, I'd suggest taking a mental health break from it for a while. P&S has always been a cesspool of conspiracy theories and whatnot, probably ever since it was created. At least that's what I've heard; it's been on my ignored sections list pretty much since I registered.

Does P&S even have an active moderator right now?

Helly was a pretty good buddy of mine. We chatted often off of btalk. Let me tell you he loved BADecker lol Sadly I haven’t heard from him since he apparently had enough of moderating. I hope he’s okay, I will try and ping him on the outlets we’re connected on..just to get an all good reply would be enough for me. (Edit , well nvm..he’s no longer available on them Cry

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My guess is they (BAD) are schizophrenic or something of that ilk..which breaks my heart because I understand how ungodly awful that disease is.

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Quote from: suchmoon on May 28, 2022, 09:48:07 PM

I just can't understand what plausible benefit does BADecker bring for the forum that he must be allowed to spam like this.

He increases the forum's post count no matter what the quality of those posts is. Grin

People should create self-moderated threads more often, especially in boards with high amounts of spam such as P&S, Bitcoin Discussion, B&H, Gambling...
In my experience, the mods are rather quick to delete off-topic spam when I report it. I am not an active reporter but I do report things from time to time when I believe they shouldn't be there, and it gets handled.

How does a report of yours look like for a post of his that should be deleted? What do you write there? Do the same type of reports you make get handled in other forum boards?

Share a few of those links here...

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on May 28, 2022, 09:33:07 PM

Where's Flying Hellfish when you need him? (seriously, where did he go off to?)

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Does P&S even have an active moderator right now?

FH has been inactive for years, with his last post in 2020, and having not logged in since June of last year. It appears that he has been removed from being a moderator and P&S does not currently have an active mod.

I have noticed that BADecker often posts things that add little value to the conversation in P&S, and is not even a reply to a tangent that is off topic. I think a lot of his posts can be summed up as "yes" or "no" or something very similar.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on May 28, 2022, 09:33:07 PM

Where's Flying Hellfish when you need him? (seriously, where did he go off to?)

Suchmoon, not being an aficionado of the P&S section, I have to ask: do you visit there to participate in the insanity or just to help keep it clean via reporting?

I participate in a few threads and generally it's fine except for a handful of troublemakers. Some of them seem to be paid shills because they post drive-by spam and never engage in discussions, and then there's BADecker in a league of his own. Unfortunately the usual remedy (ignore) doesn't work because he persistently derails threads to shit.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on May 28, 2022, 09:33:07 PM

If it's the latter, I'd suggest taking a mental health break from it for a while. P&S has always been a cesspool of conspiracy theories and whatnot, probably ever since it was created. At least that's what I've heard; it's been on my ignored sections list pretty much since I registered.

Does P&S even have an active moderator right now?

None that I know of.

I don't have a problem with content (conspiracies and whatnot), I just can't understand what plausible benefit does BADecker bring for the forum that he must be allowed to spam like this.

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Where's Flying Hellfish when you need him? (seriously, where did he go off to?)

Suchmoon, not being an aficionado of the P&S section, I have to ask: do you visit there to participate in the insanity or just to help keep it clean via reporting? If it's the latter, I'd suggest taking a mental health break from it for a while. P&S has always been a cesspool of conspiracy theories and whatnot, probably ever since it was created. At least that's what I've heard; it's been on my ignored sections list pretty much since I registered.

Does P&S even have an active moderator right now?

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I mean this is so fucked up that he must have some sort of special ability.

It's impossible to have any kind of discussion on P&S without him derailing it. He just goes through every thread and posts off topic nonsense. Reported about a million times, nothing ever happens.

Most recent replies in P&S right now:

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