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legendary
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February 23, 2023, 10:19:24 AM
Exactly one year has passed since Russia started the war and Ukraine is still free. It was a very difficult year, but fortunately the winter was quite warm, so the bombing of critical infrastructure and systematic blackouts did not affect morally, neither me nor the Ukrainians in general. I want to add that over the past year, in Mykolaiv, the duration of the sounding of the warning siren was 45 days or 1000 hours ... Just think about this figure.

The absurdity is that Russia continues to accuse the West of starting this war, moreover, I am a little confused because I do not understand what logic the Russians are guided by when they sing a Ukrainian song at Putin's concert. I want to mention that Russia has not managed to capture a single regional center, despite the fact that there are now half a million Russian soldiers on the territory of my country.

Anyway, I am reunited with my family again, I have already chatted on this subject with some of you ... and I want you to know that your kind words mean a lot to me. After the end of the war, I will make every effort to visit all those people who have supported me over the past 12 months. Returning to the topic of discussion, I want to say that people continue to donate white fabric (for camouflage nets), conservation, food, and warm clothes. Among other things, 6 chainsaws, 140 sets of thermal underwear, 50 flashlights, 60 liters of oil for cleaning weapons, 8 walkie-talkies and 12 potbelly stoves were transferred.

Here is my long promised story. [...]
legendary
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December 06, 2022, 11:33:03 PM
It's been a little over two months since I posted in this thread. If you are interested, I can say that in Oct and Nov the siren in Mykolaiv sounded in total for about 300 hours. Generally speaking, there was both good and bad news (but the tendency to quickly adapt is a really cool trait of Ukrainians).

The situation with the electricity supply leaves much to be desired ... for example, a week ago it came to the point that the electricity was continuously absent for about 60 hours. Now the situation is better, although the electricity still disappears every 4 hours. In fact, this does not bother me much, since a solid fuel boiler and a battery for the pump are installed in the parental home. However, when I'm at home, I also have hardcore nights when I have to put several refractory bricks on the gas stove. A little later, I will definitely show how it looks ... this lifehack should definitely please you.  Smiley

From the good news .... this is that 3 weeks ago our troops returned Kherson to the control of Ukraine (the only regional center that was occupied). For me personally, this is very wonderful news, since I thought about returning my family home after the new year, since the number of chaotic missile attacks has significantly decreased (although for Kherson this is not such good news, since this city has become a very easy target).

Btw, a lot of work was done to find gas and oxygen cylinders, which, in turn, were converted into wood-burning mobile stoves. To date, we have managed to produce more than 50 copies that will heat our military (This is only a part of the photos, since all the photographic materials cannot fit on one page).

Although a lot of work has been done in these two months, perhaps the biggest achievement is that another 40 additional potbelly stoves were made.

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legendary
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September 14, 2022, 07:23:48 AM
For the past 10 days, probably every Ukrainian has been watching the news reports with bated breath ... since the Ukrainian military managed to free almost 6,000 sq. km of Ukrainian territory (September 1 - 13). As for the Mykolaiv region, we don’t have any special changes that can be shown on the map on the same scale, but no matter how sad it sounds, I’m sure that our region is one of the leaders among those regions that suffered from rocket attacks (about 1000 times). This is the most accurate answer to the question that I was asked in the PM .... "why did you send your relatives to another region?".

Even though this war is very personal to me, and even though I feel like I have to stay objective, I can't stand the mess you've made here anymore (although I must admit I'm still mad at some brainless individuals). I will continue to post, but until then the thread will remain closed.
legendary
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July 29, 2022, 10:05:56 AM
In addition, my cousine has 9 children in the family (the one who currently emigrated to Poland with a small child), and she is the eldest daughter. Three of her sisters are now in Kyiv and three more live in Mariupol. So I don’t need to tell about good intentions after one of my sister’s sisters with her children sat in the basement for a week and gave the children water from a puddle. I can’t believe that I am writing this, as it would seem that now is the 21st century ... but I still get goosebumps when you realize that at such moments, neither a good car, nor having an apartment or money plays any role. Now that humanitarian corridors have been launched, the situation is still difficult, since this girl and her two young children were forcibly taken to Russia, and I understand why she agreed. Since there is nothing even to discuss when there is a choice between the life of children and their own freedom.
Earlier I said that our large family is divided, now everything is more or less fine, since we all take care of each other, however, there is still a moral component. The screenshots of the correspondence below are a clear example of how the Russians treat those whom they forcibly took to their territory (I think suchmoon or any trusted member who understands Russian will be able to understand and confirm my words).

In short, one of the first incidents was that the Teachers forced the children to say "Glory to Russia" in front of other children.

But just recently, my relatives (one of the sisters and her children) were taken away for interrogation. First, they picked her up and then they took the child from the kindergarten and took her to the police station. She has a Mariupol residence permit but the birthplace of Mykolaev, so they began to ask her about the address of the military units, whether one of her relatives serves in the Ukrainian army (including friends and acquaintances). Then moral harassment began ... including threats that she would go to jail for giving false evidence. Further, it is even more interesting, because the phone was taken from her, all the chats, text messages were read and the numbers of the men were copied.

As a result, she was released ... she began to worry because she ended up with a child in a completely unknown place, and she was only shown in which direction to go. "In the end, we got lost, I cry, and my child comforts me. We went into some kind of wilderness, there were no people, no houses, no one even to ask where we ended up". Here is such an instructive story about the Russian world and the protection of the Russian-speaking population.

https://i.imgur.com/iOhcpPl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/aCcVlrt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/UcpXkKf.jpg



The Russian Orthodox Church is a Christian Church located in Russia.

Throughout the years of Stalin and other Russian leaders, the people of Russia, believing in God, continually asked America for help against the evil of their government. But the media kept Americans from hearing their pleading. Finally the evil suppressed much of the faith in God that the Russian people had.

But faith in God is still there and is gradually coming out into the open now that there is more freedom in Russia thru Putin.

This means that "Glory to Russia" is again becoming "Glory to God." That's a good thing, isn't it?

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legendary
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July 29, 2022, 07:38:35 AM
In addition, my cousine has 9 children in the family (the one who currently emigrated to Poland with a small child), and she is the eldest daughter. Three of her sisters are now in Kyiv and three more live in Mariupol. So I don’t need to tell about good intentions after one of my sister’s sisters with her children sat in the basement for a week and gave the children water from a puddle. I can’t believe that I am writing this, as it would seem that now is the 21st century ... but I still get goosebumps when you realize that at such moments, neither a good car, nor having an apartment or money plays any role. Now that humanitarian corridors have been launched, the situation is still difficult, since this girl and her two young children were forcibly taken to Russia, and I understand why she agreed. Since there is nothing even to discuss when there is a choice between the life of children and their own freedom.
Earlier I said that our large family is divided, now everything is more or less fine, since we all take care of each other, however, there is still a moral component. The screenshots of the correspondence below are a clear example of how the Russians treat those whom they forcibly took to their territory (I think suchmoon or any trusted member who understands Russian will be able to understand and confirm my words).

In short, one of the first incidents was that the Teachers forced the children to say "Glory to Russia" in front of other children.

But just recently, my relatives (one of the sisters and her children) were taken away for interrogation. First, they picked her up and then they took the child from the kindergarten and took her to the police station. She has a Mariupol residence permit but the birthplace of Mykolaev, so they began to ask her about the address of the military units, whether one of her relatives serves in the Ukrainian army (including friends and acquaintances). Then moral harassment began ... including threats that she would go to jail for giving false evidence. Further, it is even more interesting, because the phone was taken from her, all the chats, text messages were read and the numbers of the men were copied.

As a result, she was released ... she began to worry because she ended up with a child in a completely unknown place, and she was only shown in which direction to go. "In the end, we got lost, I cry, and my child comforts me. We went into some kind of wilderness, there were no people, no houses, no one even to ask where we ended up". Here is such an instructive story about the Russian world and the protection of the Russian-speaking population.

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legendary
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July 14, 2022, 04:39:52 PM
Here is my long promised story. Because of obvious reasons there will be not much of pictures. And this will be a short stories about some interesting and not-so-obvious facts.

Sooo. From what to start?

How I met the war


(So true)

I woke at 5.30 AM of February 24th because of sounds of explosions. I was not fully awakened and I lied in bed with thougths like "Omg, i hope this is storm, not what_I_think_it_is". After 15 minutes I got out of my bed, went to my panorama window and saw some Mordor-style horizon on the north. Then I had checked news before understood that it isn't a joke. A war FINALLY started.



Yep, because of two month of unrest about main question "Will there be war or not?" my first thought after accepting the fact was "Oh, FINALLY it happened!". At least i will not be thinking about potential of war anymore  Grin

The same vibes were also between my friends, no panic, just accepting the fact and move forward.

And yeah, I was fully prepared for such scenario: I had (!) a gun (which i gave to my friend on frontline later), military equipment (yep, i gave it too), a lot of cash, alert-backpacks, I knew safe place where i can take my relatives. Sometimes paranoia is for better , because a lot of my friends really do not know what to do.

The situation in Kyiv in the first days of war

GENERAL


(russian X-31P air-to-surface missile downed by ukrainian SAM at the morning of 24th of February)

February 24 and February 25 was the hardest days, because people didn't know what will be next and how it all will end. I've heard a lot of coolstories, like "Oh, this is just for 2-3 days, until russians will conquer all Ukraine territory and after that there will be order and the law" (LOL). Also, at first days Kyiv was heavily bombed and a lot of people who didn't run on 24th, after the first night understood that to stay in potentially besieged city is a bad idea .

Here is photo from my friend who lived at Poznyaki





I'm not sure what is this part of, maybe another russian cruise missile.

Many services (like Uber taxi) suspended their work, most of restaurants and bars did the same. Mostly because of the reason that many workers lived on the left side and all restaurants are on the right side of the city. And bridges was mostly impossible to pass.


(because of common services suspended their work it was impossible to repair or take out your car, so the guy just left his broken car on the street. In high resolution it can be seen yellow "SOS" on rear glass of the car)

As you can see, only one side on Northern Bridge worked, and all cars and people were heavily checked by army and police.  When I tried to pass through this bridge, soldiers had checked my passport, pockets, backpack, asked few cunning question (To know did i was really from Kyiv or not)

In first 2-3 days public transport worked, but in the next days it also suspended it's own work (as I know)

SUBWAY

Subway worked at the same time as the only arteria which connect different areas of the city and as a shelter. At every station only one entrance with a lot of armed police worked and if you wanted to enter, police would check your ID, all your backpacks, pockets and  may ask you some specify questions.

Inside of subway one line is worked (train moved in one side and then to another) and the second line served as a shelter with a trains where you can live as long as you want. Here is how it looked:



Also, a lot of people lived on the station itself in tents.

Here is a map of Kyiv subway in the first month of the war:


FOOD

With food things happened to be really funny:



While there were empty shelves with some cheap stuf, all expensive food was at it's place in great numbers. Hamon, oysters, salmon, expsnive chocolate shrimps, lobsters, snails, crayfish. Yeah, crayfish:


(Screenshot from video sent to me by my friend Kvanko. As you see, it was a horrible death Sad )


What I did during the war

Firstly, take my relatives to safe place outside the Kyiv.
Secondly, went to territorial defence near safe place, but it happened to be really lame, it was more about standing on blockposts than something really useful. And I was the only guy who know some basic tactic skills and medicine. So i left this guys (I was able to do that since i didn't sign anything by the time) and went to Kyiv.

Yeah, because of first two points, I've lost needed time to be drafted. I came to Kyiv at 2nd of March and by that time they didn't accept any new people (because of a lot of volunteers)

So, I started to volunteer. Since I have my own tactical equipment store, I gave everything with a 50 % discount (zero interest) and start to buy equipment outside of Ukraine (in German and Poland mostly).


(this is the second consignment of military equipment. As you can see, this is mostly high tech thermal vision. Thanks to one good user of Bitcointalk!)

Small results of my work:

Translation: Pointing those to whom you help

But this story I will tell you tomorrow (or later, ha ha)
legendary
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July 01, 2022, 10:41:48 AM
To be honest, I have no idea how many civilians have been killed in Mykolaiv and Mykolaiv region in the last two weeks, since throughout June I see almost every day reports of rocket attacks, injured or killed. Most rockets are fired from the Kherson region (just for a second, in the last three days alone, about 30 rockets were fired at my region). Not to mention the fact that it is impossible to foresee where this or that rocket will fall, because the Russians do not comply with the rules of warfare, as a result, the Russian "liberators" hit civilian targets every day, so it has become more dangerous than before.


Even though this war is very personal to me, and even though I feel like I have to stay objective, I can't stand the mess you've made here anymore (although I must admit I'm still mad at some brainless individuals). I will continue to post, but until then the thread will remain closed.
Peace for everyone!
legendary
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June 12, 2022, 05:23:26 AM

Severodonetsk - Now (this is not the southern front, but still).


This is a video from the occupied Kherson.
legendary
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June 11, 2022, 07:48:46 AM
Even though this war is very personal to me, and even though I feel like I have to stay objective, I can't stand the mess you've made here anymore (although I must admit I'm still mad at some brainless individuals). I will continue to post, but until then the thread will remain closed.


In addition to the main grocery purchases, we bought materials for the girls who agreed to sew.
I think it will be fun, at least this is one of the areas in which I do not understand anything at all.

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Not very beautiful, but for that it is reliable and from the bottom of my heart.

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In addition, while you were arguing here, I visited Kyiv and did some useful things (but more on that later).
legendary
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June 11, 2022, 04:37:08 AM
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Indeed, my primary beef against 'the Jews' so-to-speak is a fundamental belief that they are 'chosen'.  This manifests as some truly disturbing and dangerous thought patterns and behaviors often enough.

...the main nazi here is you. I've already heard from you two nazi takes in one post (!). You need to be denazified  Grin



Ok, i'm ending to shitpost here. My next post will be about my coolstory

I wait with baited breath.  ;^

legendary
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June 10, 2022, 05:43:28 PM
And pretty much everything the Israelis have is available to Russia and China if the price is right,

Because israelis are "greedy filthy half-humans"? But i had no doubt that every pro-russian scum is also antisemitic garbage.

Your words not mine, and no I don't believe that.

This logical result from your words and your silly friend. Let me explain: not only israelis has american weapon. Germany, Japan, Canada and all others. Any NATO country. But for some reasons (antisemitism) you're attributing attention especially to jews.

Indeed, my primary beef against 'the Jews' so-to-speak is a fundamental belief that they are 'chosen'.

Another antisemitic take.

That's the main problem: since your trying to accuse ukrainians in some "nazism" but in fact, the main nazi here is you. I've already heard from you two nazi takes in one post (!). You need to be denazified  Grin



Ok, i'm ending to shitpost here. My next post will be about my coolstory
legendary
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June 10, 2022, 05:35:40 PM
And pretty much everything the Israelis have is available to Russia and China if the price is right,

Because israelis are "greedy filthy half-humans"? But i had no doubt that every pro-russian scum is also antisemitic garbage.

Your words not mine, and no I don't believe that.  It's absurd.  Indeed, my primary beef against 'the Jews' so-to-speak is a fundamental belief that they are 'chosen'.  This manifests as some truly disturbing and dangerous thought patterns and behaviors often enough.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/YWQgwkBiqDWw/

(Just as a side-note, the above report-ish thing sheds some light on the riddle of how a guy like Zelensky and the Nazi-ish elements of the Ukrainian government and military can get along so swimmingly.  It's probably deeper than simply not wanting to bite the hand that feeds you (e.g., Ukrainian/Israeli oligarch Kolomoiskiy) from both parties mentioned here.)

Some of the most loathsome elements Kabbalistic interpretation seem to be much more broadly disseminated through the Jewish mindset than simply a small set of creepy Rabbis.  Things like sufficiently read-in Jews 'creating worlds by speaking Hebrew'.  i.e., lying out their asses and making up fictional stories about Russian soldiers war crimes.  People who grew up in 'Christian nations' have a hard time getting their minds around such a thing and are thus commonly victimized by such tactics.
 
Israel don't sell any weaponry to anyone if USA forbit this to do. Period. I know this because I'm in fact ukrainian jew and i know about Israel much more than you  Wink

The only channel of technology for russia is China, but here I also doubt. China would not risk (at least for now) to give microelectronic to such sanctioned country. Or price will be like x10-x100 from market. With x100 price you can't build a lot of rockets and missiles tho.

You don't seem to be very high-functioning on the intellectual level and are thus not very representative of the many Jews I know.  Funny enough, I always tended to get along well with and enjoy the company of the Jews I've worked at a higher rate than most others, and I'm sure it had a lot to do with their often adroit minds, willingness to engauge in debate, etc.  To the best of my knowledge, none of the many Jews I have known and considered friends seem to harbor the grotesque ethnic supremacy of the Hasidic groups, but then as far as I know none of them had been brainwashed from an early age in the Yeshiva system.

Anyway, it really doesn't take a lot of people being diabolical scumbags to get shitty things to happen.  It's more about the placement of the tiny minority who are genuine psychopaths.

legendary
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June 10, 2022, 04:52:37 PM
And pretty much everything the Israelis have is available to Russia and China if the price is right,

Because israelis are "greedy filthy half-humans"? But i had no doubt that every pro-russian scum is also antisemitic garbage.

Israel don't sell any weaponry to anyone if USA forbit this to do. Period. I know this because I'm in fact ukrainian jew and i know about Israel much more than you  Wink

The only channel of technology for russia is China, but here I also doubt. China would not risk (at least for now) to give microelectronic to such sanctioned country. Or price will be like x10-x100 from market. With x100 price you can't build a lot of rockets and missiles tho.
legendary
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June 10, 2022, 12:57:57 PM

Further, by this time, Russia which has never stopped preparing for self defense, not only knows how to build most of the West's military machinery for itself, also has added war machinery that it has developed, and that is different that that of the other nations.


I think it a fair working model to assume that everything the Americans have, the Israelis have.  And pretty much everything the Israelis have is available to Russia and China if the price is right, or if it serves some other purpose that the Israelis suppose to be useful to them.

legendary
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June 10, 2022, 12:45:29 PM
I mean unstoppable Russian hypersonic weapons that can easily destroy city blocks

The main problem that there to few of such weapons in russia.
For example, X-32 missile has a velocity around 3,5—4,6M. But the main problem that there around 30-40 such missiles (!!!). If orcs will use them all, they will be without such weapon at all. This rocket uses western parts in it, so there will be no more new missiles X-32 anymore. Only what's left.

And the same story with all new weaponry in Russia.
The main "working horse" of the war - Kalibr cruise missile, late soviet project, mainly was built since 1994 , when there were no sanctions at all (the same story with Iskander ballistic rockets). And we can't see any new (which was announced after 2014) weapons on the battlefield in significant numbers. Why so? The answer is easy: sanctions after 2014. And after 2022 I doubt that russian will be able to built even 5 missiles in year.

So the answer for your question can be enough simple: orcs and their rules - gnomes, just economize their few modern missiles and rockets.
It would be to my advantage to leave you in the dark about the true state of things, but I'll say it anyway. The main workhorse of Russia now is cannon artillery, and ammunition supplies are almost unlimited. Of the missile weapons, the main workhorse is the X101 air-launched cruise missile. However, since it has no export analogue, the sea-based Caliber missile, which became the main star of the operation in Syria and remains the main star of the operation in Ukraine, took all the glory of high-precision missile strikes (there was even a special term "calibrate"). I don’t want to upset you, but Russia’s stocks of these missiles are quite large and are constantly replenished.

Exactly!

Further, by this time, Russia which has never stopped preparing for self defense, not only knows how to build most of the West's military machinery for itself, also has added war machinery that it has developed, and that is different that that of the other nations.

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June 10, 2022, 11:15:20 AM
I mean unstoppable Russian hypersonic weapons that can easily destroy city blocks

The main problem that there to few of such weapons in russia.
For example, X-32 missile has a velocity around 3,5—4,6M. But the main problem that there around 30-40 such missiles (!!!). If orcs will use them all, they will be without such weapon at all. This rocket uses western parts in it, so there will be no more new missiles X-32 anymore. Only what's left.

And the same story with all new weaponry in Russia.
The main "working horse" of the war - Kalibr cruise missile, late soviet project, mainly was built since 1994 , when there were no sanctions at all (the same story with Iskander ballistic rockets). And we can't see any new (which was announced after 2014) weapons on the battlefield in significant numbers. Why so? The answer is easy: sanctions after 2014. And after 2022 I doubt that russian will be able to built even 5 missiles in year.

So the answer for your question can be enough simple: orcs and their rules - gnomes, just economize their few modern missiles and rockets.
It would be to my advantage to leave you in the dark about the true state of things, but I'll say it anyway. The main workhorse of Russia now is cannon artillery, and ammunition supplies are almost unlimited. Of the missile weapons, the main workhorse is the X101 air-launched cruise missile. However, since it has no export analogue, the sea-based Caliber missile, which became the main star of the operation in Syria and remains the main star of the operation in Ukraine, took all the glory of high-precision missile strikes (there was even a special term "calibrate"). I don’t want to upset you, but Russia’s stocks of these missiles are quite large and are constantly replenished.
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June 10, 2022, 10:59:17 AM
I mean unstoppable Russian hypersonic weapons that can easily destroy city blocks

The main problem that there to few of such weapons in russia.
For example, X-32 missile has a velocity around 3,5—4,6M. But the main problem that there around 30-40 such missiles (!!!). If orcs will use them all, they will be without such weapon at all. This rocket uses western parts in it, so there will be no more new missiles X-32 anymore. Only what's left.

And the same story with all new weaponry in Russia.
The main "working horse" of the war - Kalibr cruise missile, late soviet project, mainly was built since 1994 , when there were no sanctions at all (the same story with Iskander ballistic rockets). And we can't see any new (which was announced after 2014) weapons on the battlefield in significant numbers. Why so? The answer is easy: sanctions after 2014. And after 2022 I doubt that russian will be able to built even 5 missiles in year.

So the answer for your question can be enough simple: orcs and their rules - gnomes, just economize their few modern missiles and rockets.
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June 10, 2022, 07:24:17 AM

If said building is in fact non-military, maybe the precision weapons were slightly diverted by Ukrainian EW.

Civilized and responsible countries don't put weapons factories, ammo transit depots, etc, in the middle of large cities so as to avoid situations like this.  IOW, they don't use human shields.
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Meanwhile in Moscow...

Ministry of Defence.

[_img width=400]https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/main-building-of-the-ministry-of-defence-of-the-russian-federation-is-picture-id1065083576[/img]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Building_of_the_Ministry_of_Defense_(Russia)

https://www.google.com/maps/search/russian+barracks+in+moscow/@55.7596161,37.6161838,12.63z

All these are legitimate targets.

Comparing apples to oranges due to your reading difficulties, but...

Legitimate target to drugged up psychopath actors like Xelensky perhaps.  I wouldn't rule out that Russia's MOD headquarters are untouched not because the ZioNazi's are not dumb enough to do it, but more because they don't have the means.

Here's Ukraine's.  Has it been bombed?  If not, why not?  I mean unstoppable Russian hypersonic weapons that can easily destroy city blocks routinely fly practically right over Kiev on their way to mercenary barracks in Lviv so obviously the 'orcs' could easily vaporize the place at will.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Defence_building_(Ukraine)

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June 10, 2022, 06:25:33 AM
Oh, stop being so silly! Even if the buildings in the pictures are Ukraine buildings, we don't know for a fact that they weren't hit by friendly fire

I heard this explosions and i know for sure that it's not a "friednly fire". Ukraine doesn't have cruise missile and there is any artillery in the city. So yeah, because this building is close to semi-military factory and russians are pretty bad shooters, we have civilian building hit by russian missile.
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If said building is in fact non-military, maybe the precision weapons were slightly diverted by Ukrainian EW.

Civilized and responsible countries don't put weapons factories, ammo transit depots, etc, in the middle of large cities so as to avoid situations like this.  IOW, they don't use human shields.
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Meanwhile in Moscow...


Ministry of Defence.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Building_of_the_Ministry_of_Defense_(Russia)

https://www.google.com/maps/search/russian+barracks+in+moscow/@55.7596161,37.6161838,12.63z


All these are legitimate targets.
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June 10, 2022, 03:25:08 AM
Let's not forget Russia did not send Kamikaze passenger planes into these buildings, but rockets, which cause a totally different type of destruction.
The nature of the destruction from Russian sea- and air-launched missiles used in Ukraine is fairly well known. Most likely, the photographs show traces of destruction from downed Russian missiles, for which we must thank the Ukrainian missile defense system.

Deny, give fake info, repeat all common places about the RF capabilities... RF does not have enough precision weapons to wage this war, nor they care much about the civilian damages. You are bot repeating official propaganda over and over despite massive evidence of how the Psychos that direct the RF army specifically using tactics that destroy cities without any sense. Seen in Aleppo, seen in Mariupol and seen anywhere the orcs set foot.

Even the most stupid of Adolf Putin's orc followers knows that the RF army is just a cheese grinder that can't tell their own mouth from their ass when shelling.
Yes, yes, I remember that Russia's missiles were supposed to end in mid-March. But for some reason they don't end. Mostly sea-based Kalibr missiles and X101 air-launched cruise missiles work at military infrastructure facilities in Ukraine, land-based Iskander missiles are used less frequently. Each such rocket contains approximately 400 kg of explosives in TNT equivalent. I think in six months or a year after the start of this operation, you will also gradually learn to understand Russian weapons.
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