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Topic: Baikal Giant N - Cryptonight, Cryptonight-lite FPGA/ASIC miner - page 11. (Read 32830 times)

newbie
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They do not show what coin they are mining it only shows CryptoNight as only information.
newbie
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I am not saying it is worthless, NiceHash works fine. Just looking to the future, if suddenly all coins will fork to v7 Smiley
full member
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Hi there,

have just bought Baikal N , one question if it is linux based system can I just use another software to mine cryptonightv7 or it is hardware/firmware based?

Thanks

try the new doorstopper coin


 Grin
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Hi there,

have just bought Baikal N , one question if it is linux based system can I just use another software to mine cryptonightv7 or it is hardware/firmware based?

Thanks

try the new doorstopper coin
full member
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Hi there,

have just bought Baikal N , one question if it is linux based system can I just use another software to mine cryptonightv7 or it is hardware/firmware based?

Thanks

CryptonightV7 is not minable by ASICs, that's the reason it was implemented - to get ASICs out of Cryptonight.
newbie
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Hi there,

have just bought Baikal N , one question if it is linux based system can I just use another software to mine cryptonightv7 or it is hardware/firmware based?

Thanks
legendary
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Bitcoin FTW!
So, it seems all cryptonight coins going to hardfork soon or late? Bytecoin, Karbo, Electroneum etc.
Yes, nearly all of them except for some obscure coins with tiny market caps, listed on only one or two exchanges that are also tiny, that won’t be profitable when miners try to mine them. Basically RIP for CrytoNight ASIC buyers, there's no way anyone that purchased these ASICs will ever make their money back unless a miracle happens and they somehow find a way to make these things profitable again through adding a new algo or a major coin doesn't hard fork for some reason.
newbie
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Monero community could be vibrant, but good question is why the monero devs didnt increased the scratchpad size from the current size (2Mb), fpga miners are not affected by this fork Wink

I talked to another cryptonight coin developer about fpga, he said that it's cost prohibitive due to memory restrictions.  So there goes fpga out the door, cause I was thinking fpga too. 

I'm developing many algorithms for the Virtex Ultrascale+ VU9P on the VCU1525 board and this FPGA has 47MB of internal SRAM, enough for 22 instances of Cryptonight V7.  Your developer friend is gravely mistaken.
Having said that, Cryptonight V7 is not the most profitable algorithm for FPGA's at the moment, but high end FPGA's always beat GPU's, and ROI for the high end FPGA's are around 50-110 days vs. years for GPU's.
I will be releasing my bitstreams (to the public) soon, my current plan is to release them for free with a 4% mining fee.  And you would need to buy your own FPGA boards from Avnet/Digikey/Xilinx/Digilent/Hitechglobal/Bittware, etc...



Amazing. Can't wait for that. Do you have an estimated date?

First public-ready algorithms should be done around mid to late June.  However I am hesitant to 'release' the bitstreams unless numerous algorithms are available.  I wouldn't want someone to invest $10K in hardware with only 1 or 2 algorithms in case those coins profit or ROI suddenly changes.  A good investment would be to have 4-5 algorithms available, making the hardware more secure against market changes.
Anyway, once people start mining with PC's linked to numerous high end FPGA cards, they will be 'immune' to forks since the algorithms in the FPGA's can be changed as fast as developers can fork their coin, actually faster in most cases since even a poorly tested rig can still mine, whereas a coin cannot fork until the new setup is heavily tested.




Thank you for the amazing work you have been doing with FPGAs. I truly respect you for pushing the boundaries of today's mining knowledge.

So let's say that FPGAs turn out to be a healthy and profitable substitution to GPUs as we hope, so far Cryptonight is the only algo that was able to put ASICs out of the game for a while, this being said, won't ASICs just be developed for the remaining algos, beating FPGAs at what they can do best?
If so this leaves me thinking that FPGAs profitable work could then be allocated to Cryptonight, which is ASIC resistant as we speak, but as you have stated yourselfthis algo implementation is not the best mining use case for FPGAs and at that point once more accessible FPGA mining solutions are released and more FPGA hardware is purchased won't that put us back where things are now?
sr. member
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I haven't seen like any discussion on this.. the new deal for the baikal giant-b is buy 1 get 2.. anyone think this is a decent deal and getting some? like $2699 or something for 2, guessing usd wire transfer only
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when its start 1 buy to 30???  Grin Grin Grin
full member
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Guys, we will have the coin to mine with Cryptonight ASICs. XMC. So it looks that this is safe to buy some cryptonight ASICs. Now, when we can buy 1 and get 5....  Angry

BTW: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/monero-just-hard-forked-and-it-resulted-four-new-projects/
It will be probably pretty much shitcoin but probably with good value Cheesy

Pump and dump dude, at least you can make some monies off your miner. 
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Percy, a friend of mine can take 1, so we are at 5 if the newbie take one or someone else join
I am ready to send you € by paypal or crypto in ADVANCE if you would like to proceed with the 1x5 order as you have 50 times the Merit that I have Smiley and I think you prefer to receive those ASAP and then send to me rather then the opposite

Let me know



 
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Guys, we will have the coin to mine with Cryptonight ASICs. XMC. So it looks that this is safe to buy some cryptonight ASICs. Now, when we can buy 1 and get 5....  Angry

BTW: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/monero-just-hard-forked-and-it-resulted-four-new-projects/
It will be probably pretty much shitcoin but probably with good value Cheesy
legendary
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A humble Siberian miner
Guys, we will have the coin to mine with Cryptonight ASICs. XMC. So it looks that this is safe to buy some cryptonight ASICs. Now, when we can buy 1 and get 5....  Angry

BTW: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/monero-just-hard-forked-and-it-resulted-four-new-projects/
sr. member
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What power supply I can use for the Baikal N.

Where to buy in europe?

Thanks
The sales page on the Baikal website for the Giant N states you need three 6pin connectors; these can be found on most power supplies- just check the product description of a PSU and you’ll likely find a list of connectors.

I don’t normally recommend molex or SATA to 6pin connectors as neither of these connectors are made to transfer huge amounts of power, but they should work here as the Giant-Ns use just 60w hashing CryptoNight and CryptoNight-N. Best to stick with a server PSU with a breakout board that has 6 pins on it, though, and these should turn up on an Amazon or EBay search for ‘Server PSU’ and ‘Breakout Board’ (note you’ll need to provide six-pin connectors for this unless the whole thing is preassembled or they come with the breakout board).
Molex -> 6pin -> 3x 6pin should be fine also. Those 2 adapters that come with Giant N are good.
legendary
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Bitcoin FTW!
What power supply I can use for the Baikal N.

Where to buy in europe?

Thanks
The sales page on the Baikal website for the Giant N states you need three 6pin connectors; these can be found on most power supplies- just check the product description of a PSU and you’ll likely find a list of connectors.

I don’t normally recommend molex or SATA to 6pin connectors as neither of these connectors are made to transfer huge amounts of power, but they should work here as the Giant-Ns use just 60w hashing CryptoNight and CryptoNight-N. Best to stick with a server PSU with a breakout board that has 6 pins on it, though, and these should turn up on an Amazon or EBay search for ‘Server PSU’ and ‘Breakout Board’ (note you’ll need to provide six-pin connectors for this unless the whole thing is preassembled or they come with the breakout board).
jr. member
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#Please, read:Daniel Ellsberg,-The Doomsday *wk
cryptonight needs some very expensive type of memory ... how did you guys sort this problem  Huh

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CryptoNight relies on random access to the slow memory and emphasizes latency dependence. Each new block depends on all the previous blocks (unlike, for example, scrypt). The algorithm requires about 2 Mb per instance:

It fits in the L3 cache (per core) of modern processors.
A megabyte of internal memory is almost unacceptable for the modern ASICs.
GPUs may run hundreds of concurrent instances, but they are limited in other ways. GDDR5 memory is slower than the CPU L3 cache and remarkable for its bandwidth, not random access speed.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/CryptoNight
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What power supply I can use for the Baikal N.

Where to buy in europe?

Thanks
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i paid 3600 USD for one miner and bought 6 miners 15 days ago.

now, 1900 USD for 5 miners.
it s not ethic ! i will not buy. totally disaster.






loooooooooooool Grin stupidity should hurt, than alot people would scream all day
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First public-ready algorithms should be done around mid to late June.  However I am hesitant to 'release' the bitstreams unless numerous algorithms are available.  I wouldn't want someone to invest $10K in hardware with only 1 or 2 algorithms in case those coins profit or ROI suddenly changes.  A good investment would be to have 4-5 algorithms available, making the hardware more secure against market changes.
Anyway, once people start mining with PC's linked to numerous high end FPGA cards, they will be 'immune' to forks since the algorithms in the FPGA's can be changed as fast as developers can fork their coin, actually faster in most cases since even a poorly tested rig can still mine, whereas a coin cannot fork until the new setup is heavily tested.




Good work,
what platform you are targeting only Virtex? Some lower end Kintex UltraScale, Kintex UltraScale+ parts have enough internal ram to run at least one instance and they are much more easy to find ready to ship.  
 

The three boards I am going to initially support are the Nexys Video (XC7A200T $490), Avnet AES-KU040-DB-G (Kintex Ultrascale+ $975), and VCU1525 (Virtex VU9P $3995).  I will start a thread soon and list which algorithms will be released for each board (the Virtex can run all the algorithms, the Kintex can run most, the Nexys can only run a few).

My implementations are 100% unrolled pipelines running at one clock cycle per stage.  The ROI on the Kintex and Virtex boards range from 50-150 days based on the algorithm, in today's bear market with 1-2 year ROI's on GPU's.  If the market rises back to Dec/2017 levels, ROI would be ridiculously short.

Please do not purchase any of the above hardware until I announce the official hash rates.  I hope other FPGA developers follow my lead and stop mining in secret and start spreading the wealth.  We need to give crypto back to the people.  With enough people mining with high end FPGA's, Bitmain and Baikal can no longer control the market and screw people over.

Power consumption for 90% usage on the VCU1525 is around 170W.  The best high end rig is a standard mining motherboard with 8 x VCU1525 and a single 1600W power supply.


Are you using OpenCL on the VCU1525?
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