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Topic: Baikal Giant X10 - page 34. (Read 132901 times)

newbie
Activity: 87
Merit: 0
March 22, 2018, 10:40:11 AM
Hi to All of you .

someone any news regarding the 2 extra algorithms ?

All i read is : will be added soon .. as from November 2017 

Soon is November 2019 Roll Eyes
jr. member
Activity: 504
Merit: 3
March 22, 2018, 10:02:48 AM
Hi, what is the actual price of X10 directly form Baikal?

Cheers W_M

2699 usd MOQ 2 units
legendary
Activity: 1018
Merit: 1001
March 22, 2018, 07:55:33 AM
Hi, what is the actual price of X10 directly form Baikal?

Cheers W_M
newbie
Activity: 17
Merit: 1
March 22, 2018, 07:54:19 AM
I asked a dew days ago and baikal said to me 4000 USD for x10, someone knows why they reduce the price??

Simple, cause they aren't selling fast enough. They lower price little by little to get the suckers that want to pay more first before getting the rest of the buyers. That's why they were selling at first for like $7000.

How they work:
Get suckers that wants to pay $7000, then when there's no more suckers, lower to $6000, and when no more suckers, lower again, rinse and repeat until stock is gone.

In other words, to maximize their profits since they aren't as big as Bitmain to be pumping out toasters non-stop.

So for more me, I woudn't pay anywhere close to $2000.

Remember, they were originally selling for $1188 so they had to make profits. Once they realized third party sellers were selling for a lot more, their price jumped.

Whoah senior member going bad on Baikal! Price is $2600 now, would you go for that?  What do you go for since you've seen alot?
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
March 22, 2018, 05:16:39 AM
Hi to All of you .

someone any news regarding the 2 extra algorithms ?

All i read is : will be added soon .. as from November 2017 
full member
Activity: 262
Merit: 100
March 21, 2018, 11:58:55 PM
Anyone ordered directly from Baikal before? This is what they keep asking me about:

Quote
A.If paid from personal bank account.
Then provide 1)name of account owner, 2)remitter identification card
 
B.If paid from company bank account.
then provide 1)name of company, 2)registration address of company, 3)business license.

I'm in the U.S. and I can pay either way, from personal bank account or company bank account. Is a remitter identification card a driver's license? What about the business license? I have a DBA for my business, which just says I am doing business as an alternate name (and allows me to open a business bank account).
pay just from personal bank account.
newbie
Activity: 60
Merit: 0
March 21, 2018, 10:30:47 PM
Anyone ordered directly from Baikal before? This is what they keep asking me about:

Quote
A.If paid from personal bank account.
Then provide 1)name of account owner, 2)remitter identification card
 
B.If paid from company bank account.
then provide 1)name of company, 2)registration address of company, 3)business license.

I'm in the U.S. and I can pay either way, from personal bank account or company bank account. Is a remitter identification card a driver's license? What about the business license? I have a DBA for my business, which just says I am doing business as an alternate name (and allows me to open a business bank account).
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 255
March 21, 2018, 12:51:21 PM
Is it possible to use the EVGA 3600W also for Baikal miners?
I never tried it, but should work!
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
March 21, 2018, 10:46:11 AM
Is it possible to use the EVGA 3600W also for Baikal miners?
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
March 21, 2018, 06:29:56 AM
Can i use as a power supply , BITMAIN 1200W PSU  APW3++ for BAIKAL X10? i  have one at home which i was thinking to sell but if i can use it with Baikal

Yes, I know other people using it.

Yes its possible , I use it to
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 255
March 21, 2018, 05:38:16 AM
Can i use as a power supply , BITMAIN 1200W PSU  APW3++ for BAIKAL X10? i  have one at home which i was thinking to sell but if i can use it with Baikal

Yes it works!
newbie
Activity: 41
Merit: 0
March 21, 2018, 05:17:43 AM
Sure, powerful enough to power 2 or 3. Depends which algo you use
full member
Activity: 374
Merit: 101
March 21, 2018, 05:17:15 AM
Is it safe to buy from www.baikalminer.com?

Recommended too, if you are going to buy a Baikal miner.
full member
Activity: 374
Merit: 101
March 21, 2018, 05:15:21 AM
Can i use as a power supply , BITMAIN 1200W PSU  APW3++ for BAIKAL X10? i  have one at home which i was thinking to sell but if i can use it with Baikal

Yes, I know other people using it.
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
March 21, 2018, 05:07:37 AM
Can i use as a power supply , BITMAIN 1200W PSU  APW3++ for BAIKAL X10? i  have one at home which i was thinking to sell but if i can use it with Baikal
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
March 21, 2018, 04:36:31 AM
Is it safe to buy from www.baikalminer.com?
newbie
Activity: 29
Merit: 0
March 21, 2018, 03:19:41 AM
I asked a dew days ago and baikal said to me 4000 USD for x10, someone knows why they reduce the price??

Simple, cause they aren't selling fast enough. They lower price little by little to get the suckers that want to pay more first before getting the rest of the buyers. That's why they were selling at first for like $7000.

How they work:
Get suckers that wants to pay $7000, then when there's no more suckers, lower to $6000, and when no more suckers, lower again, rinse and repeat until stock is gone.

In other words, to maximize their profits since they aren't as big as Bitmain to be pumping out toasters non-stop.

So for more me, I woudn't pay anywhere close to $2000.

Remember, they were originally selling for $1188 so they had to make profits. Once they realized third party sellers were selling for a lot more, their price jumped.

Ok, I agree they were expensive and they were acting with some delay, but I think the whole firm is little bit slow (observation that I took when I ordered mine). But let's take a look from their perspective.
Imagine you are the owner of company Baikal and you are producing those ASICs for let's say 500$ (just suggestion, I have no idea for how much they produce them). Your margin in October - December has been 700$ roughly (for batch 1 that was 1188$) and 900$ (for batch 2 that was 1399$) or 58.33% and 64.28% respectively (gross margins, but I don't believe they have a lot of costs for advertisement and other things). In the beginning they were making 200$ days (so tempting) but we were aware how earns will drop rapidly. Still we had around 50-60$ earnings in the beginning of December which gives us Payback period of approx. 23 days.

Now - it comes December everything booms even more, XVG makes new all time high in the beginning of January and you are making almost 100$ per machine per day. The payback period is reduced to 14 days (for second batch) and 12 days (for first batch). Now you make a good research and you realize that people are willing to pay even for payback period of 180 days (especially the guys with GPU rigs). So you are saying to yourself: there are new people coming in the mining sphere, willing to wait for 6 months to get their money back and nowadays one of my machines makes 100$ day. You check on ebay and you see people are paying right now around 11,000 euros for one of your machines. As a produced you sold your batches on very low price. You don't want to lose money again. So you increase the prices to 7000$ (I don't know their way of price formation, but they did it somehow) and the payback period for their clients now is 70 days and even if mining profits drop to 50$ per day it still will be 140 days (lower than 180) and they still offer the best product. Your margins are going to approx. 92%. It is a win-win situation. So please don't blame them they are ripping people off. They are just trying to be flexible and to adapt to the new prices in the crypto world. You would have done the same. Again - I am saying they are little bit slow and maybe don't adapt very fast, but looks like they are trying. They were keeping for long time 7000$ for sure and the only thing I didn't like and I wouldn't have done if I was the owner of the company is the MoQ of 6.

That is all from me. Have a nice day and let's hope for a new big jump in crypto prices.

Disclosure: I am not owner (entirely or partially) of Baikal, nor their employee.
jr. member
Activity: 504
Merit: 3
March 20, 2018, 10:33:14 AM
How much is actually returning baikal x10? Between 17-25 USD?

If you use it on autoswtich pools like nicehash yes. If you work searching for the best coin probably more. Remember this machine can support 5 diferent algos. (soon 7)
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
March 20, 2018, 09:51:21 AM
How much is actually returning baikal x10? Between 17-25 USD?
jr. member
Activity: 504
Merit: 3
March 20, 2018, 06:49:24 AM
I agree with all that you says guys.

just I am interested in this one because of hte multi algo and low power usage. Also they will add 2 more algos which will give again value to this box.

I want to enter in the world of the ASICS and this looks to me the best door. I don't want to risk with the cryptonight units. If all the cryptonight coins will fork then it will become a nice doorstopper.

THis one supports up to 7 algos. A totally different story. Also it uses very little power.  ( and I have photovoltaic panels.=
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