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Quote from: cicciobtc on December 08, 2017, 06:02:58 AM

Cristiano Ronaldo is officially the winner of the 2017 Ballon d'Or!
here is the complete standing:

1° Cristiano Ronaldo, 2°Messi, 3° Neymar,

4° Buffon , 5° Modric, 6° Ramos , 7° Mbappé , 8° Kanté, 9° Lewandowski , 10° Kane,

11° Cavani , 12° Isco , 13° Suarez , 14° De Bruyne, 15° Dybala, 16° Marcelo , 17° Kroos , 18° Griezmann 19° Hazard , 20° De Gea ,

21° Bonucci and Aubameyang , 23° Mané , 24° Falcao , 25° Benzema, 26° Oblak , 27° Hummels , 28° Dzeko, 29° Mertens and Coutinho.

Mbappe in 7th is just a joke. He don't even deserve in top 3O. He's very talented, but getting into the big 3O for Ballon Do'r is not yet the moment, it's still too fast for now. Suarez is more deserving of position 7 than Mbappe. Anyway, the results are already out and it is a great achievement for players as young as Mbappe. Congratulations.

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Cristiano Ronaldo is officially the winner of the 2017 Ballon d'Or!
here is the complete standing:

1° Cristiano Ronaldo, 2°Messi, 3° Neymar,

4° Buffon , 5° Modric, 6° Ramos , 7° Mbappé , 8° Kanté, 9° Lewandowski , 10° Kane,

11° Cavani , 12° Isco , 13° Suarez , 14° De Bruyne, 15° Dybala, 16° Marcelo , 17° Kroos , 18° Griezmann 19° Hazard , 20° De Gea ,

21° Bonucci and Aubameyang , 23° Mané , 24° Falcao , 25° Benzema, 26° Oblak , 27° Hummels , 28° Dzeko, 29° Mertens and Coutinho.

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Quote from: lamjed on December 06, 2017, 08:04:26 PM

I do not lile the way fifa is giving rewards to players. Logically Messi is the best even without winning cups. Ronaldo is making his worst periode ever.

Speaking earlier this season, Messi may be ahead of Ronaldo. But Ballon D'or is about a calendar year which means from January to December this year. And in that period, Messi and Ronaldo compete very tight up to now. For me this will be a battle between the two again and it will be very difficult to determine which one is superior.

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I do not lile the way fifa is giving rewards to players. Logically Messi is the best even without winning cups. Ronaldo is making his worst periode ever.

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Tomorrow Cristiano Ronaldo will be awarded in Paris with 5 "Ballon d'or" of his career(2008,2013,2014,2016,2017),
Now he and Messi have the same number of "Ballon d'or".

Cristiano Ronaldo to celebrate this award, today has made a new record:
he is the first player in history to have scored in all the 6 matches of the qualifying group

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Quote from: cicciobtc on October 11, 2017, 05:03:09 PM

Here is the list of 30 candidates for the Ballon d'Or:

Liga_11: Cristiano Ronaldo,Messi, Modric,Marcelo,Sergio Ramos, L.Suarez, Oblak, Griezmann, Isco,Benzema.Kroos
Premier League_7: Kantè, Coutinho,De Bruyne, De Gea,Kane, Manè, Hazard
Serie A_5: Dybala, Mertens, Dzeko,Buffon,Bonucci
Ligue 1_4: Neymar,Cavani Mbappè,Falcao
Bundesliga_3: Lewandowski, Aubameyang,Hummels

I think Cristiano Ronaldo will win 100% this year, he has won everything by scoring so many decisive goals.

Yes, ronaldo will win it this year. The year 2016 is the best for Ronaldo. The trophy la liga, champions league, and euro 2016 trophy are his proof. Although at the beginning of this season ronaldo little trouble, but I think Ronaldo will win it.

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Quote from: siti25 on October 11, 2017, 09:13:18 PM

Quote from: cicciobtc on October 11, 2017, 05:03:09 PM

Here is the list of 30 candidates for the Ballon d'Or:

Liga_11: Cristiano Ronaldo,Messi, Modric,Marcelo,Sergio Ramos, L.Suarez, Oblak, Griezmann, Isco,Benzema.Kroos
Premier League_7: Kantè, Coutinho,De Bruyne, De Gea,Kane, Manè, Hazard
Serie A_5: Dybala, Mertens, Dzeko,Buffon,Bonucci
Ligue 1_4: Neymar,Cavani Mbappè,Falcao
Bundesliga_3: Lewandowski, Aubameyang,Hummels

I think Cristiano Ronaldo will win 100% this year, he has won everything by scoring so many decisive goals.

There are a lot of players from these 3O candidates who should not be there, they are just to make the candidate to 3O only, which is far from getting Ballon D'or like Sadio Mane, Mertens, Marcelo, Dzeko. Their performance is good, but I do not think they should be enough to be nominated for Ballon D'or. And the results will be as usual, between Ronaldo and Messi alone.

For even being nominated to be among the final 30 out of the numerous playing all over the globe, I think its something to be grateful for not to talk of being nominated along side the two legends that hold the ballon d'or as their birth right is another achievement. Another achievement is getting to have an automatic pass to the event.

My favorite would be Rinaldo but objectively, I think it will go to Messi at this time because he has in my own opinion, using recent statistics done so much for both the club and his country side. My opinion though.

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Quote from: michaelch on October 11, 2017, 08:56:08 PM

I think only 2 possibilities, Ronaldo or Messi. Again. Hard to imagine anyone else being more worthy. Just shows how consistently these 2 players are.

I really don't see Messi anywhere near this Ballon D'or this season, another Real Madrid should place second this time around and Messi should go preferably third or even fourth, or A juventus player should have the second position after Ronaldo, it's only fair seeing how they eliminated Barcelona.

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Quote from: Md Saad on October 12, 2017, 01:30:07 PM

Whatever Messi did in the last weak for his country, I think Cristiano Ronaldo deserves Ballon d'Or again this year. because Ronaldo made some outstanding difference in the knock out stage of UCL, from Quarterfinal to the Cardiff. he played unbelievably for his club. CR7 scored 10 goals in 5 matches. Not only that Ronaldo also helped Real Madrid for gaining La Liga title after 5 years. So that he should be the best choice for the winner of Ballon d'Or this 2017.

i don't know what is the criteria to get this annual award but if we see the achievement during 2016-2017 i think Ronaldo derserve to get Ballon d'Or than Messi because Ronaldo already got almost everything from Euro cup 2016 untill champion league trophy but Messi he has failure bringing Argentina to get Copa America even twice although not in the same year

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Whatever Messi did in the last weak for his country, I think Cristiano Ronaldo deserves Ballon d'Or again this year. because Ronaldo made some outstanding difference in the knock out stage of UCL, from Quarterfinal to the Cardiff. he played unbelievably for his club. CR7 scored 10 goals in 5 matches. Not only that Ronaldo also helped Real Madrid for gaining La Liga title after 5 years. So that he should be the best choice for the winner of Ballon d'Or this 2017.

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Quote from: cicciobtc on October 12, 2017, 09:43:06 AM

Quote from: siti25 on October 11, 2017, 09:13:18 PM

Quote from: cicciobtc on October 11, 2017, 05:03:09 PM

Here is the list of 30 candidates for the Ballon d'Or:

Liga_11: Cristiano Ronaldo,Messi, Modric,Marcelo,Sergio Ramos, L.Suarez, Oblak, Griezmann, Isco,Benzema.Kroos
Premier League_7: Kantè, Coutinho,De Bruyne, De Gea,Kane, Manè, Hazard
Serie A_5: Dybala, Mertens, Dzeko,Buffon,Bonucci
Ligue 1_4: Neymar,Cavani Mbappè,Falcao
Bundesliga_3: Lewandowski, Aubameyang,Hummels

I think Cristiano Ronaldo will win 100% this year, he has won everything by scoring so many decisive goals.

There are a lot of players from these 3O candidates who should not be there, they are just to make the candidate to 3O only, which is far from getting Ballon D'or like Sadio Mane, Mertens, Marcelo, Dzeko. Their performance is good, but I do not think they should be enough to be nominated for Ballon D'or. And the results will be as usual, between Ronaldo and Messi alone.

Yes, it makes no sense for a list of 30 players, maybe it would be 5 or 10 maximum.
This year there is no doubt about the winners because Cristiano Ronaldo won the Liga and the Champions League where he scored 12 goals (5 goals in the quarter-finals against Bayern, 3goals in the semi-final against At. Madrid and 2 in final match the juvnetus, all teams with a very strong defense)

So in January 2018 CR7 will win his fifth Ballon D'or

great opportunities still held by Ronaldo,
messi has little possibility for this
other kandiat I think would not be possible to rival the ronaldo and messi,
so far only these two players are dominating and it may take 3-5 years to come we will find their competitors,
I see these two players as aliens because they do not have the fatigue of scoring awards

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Quote from: siti25 on October 11, 2017, 09:13:18 PM

Quote from: cicciobtc on October 11, 2017, 05:03:09 PM

Here is the list of 30 candidates for the Ballon d'Or:

Liga_11: Cristiano Ronaldo,Messi, Modric,Marcelo,Sergio Ramos, L.Suarez, Oblak, Griezmann, Isco,Benzema.Kroos
Premier League_7: Kantè, Coutinho,De Bruyne, De Gea,Kane, Manè, Hazard
Serie A_5: Dybala, Mertens, Dzeko,Buffon,Bonucci
Ligue 1_4: Neymar,Cavani Mbappè,Falcao
Bundesliga_3: Lewandowski, Aubameyang,Hummels

I think Cristiano Ronaldo will win 100% this year, he has won everything by scoring so many decisive goals.

There are a lot of players from these 3O candidates who should not be there, they are just to make the candidate to 3O only, which is far from getting Ballon D'or like Sadio Mane, Mertens, Marcelo, Dzeko. Their performance is good, but I do not think they should be enough to be nominated for Ballon D'or. And the results will be as usual, between Ronaldo and Messi alone.

Yes, it makes no sense for a list of 30 players, maybe it would be 5 or 10 maximum.
This year there is no doubt about the winners because Cristiano Ronaldo won the Liga and the Champions League where he scored 12 goals (5 goals in the quarter-finals against Bayern, 3goals in the semi-final against At. Madrid and 2 in final match the juvnetus, all teams with a very strong defense)

So in January 2018 CR7 will win his fifth Ballon D'or

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Quote from: cicciobtc on October 11, 2017, 05:03:09 PM

Here is the list of 30 candidates for the Ballon d'Or:

Liga_11: Cristiano Ronaldo,Messi, Modric,Marcelo,Sergio Ramos, L.Suarez, Oblak, Griezmann, Isco,Benzema.Kroos
Premier League_7: Kantè, Coutinho,De Bruyne, De Gea,Kane, Manè, Hazard
Serie A_5: Dybala, Mertens, Dzeko,Buffon,Bonucci
Ligue 1_4: Neymar,Cavani Mbappè,Falcao
Bundesliga_3: Lewandowski, Aubameyang,Hummels

I think Cristiano Ronaldo will win 100% this year, he has won everything by scoring so many decisive goals.

There are a lot of players from these 3O candidates who should not be there, they are just to make the candidate to 3O only, which is far from getting Ballon D'or like Sadio Mane, Mertens, Marcelo, Dzeko. Their performance is good, but I do not think they should be enough to be nominated for Ballon D'or. And the results will be as usual, between Ronaldo and Messi alone.

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I think only 2 possibilities, Ronaldo or Messi. Again. Hard to imagine anyone else being more worthy. Just shows how consistently these 2 players are.

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Here is the list of 30 candidates for the Ballon d'Or:

Liga_11: Cristiano Ronaldo,Messi, Modric,Marcelo,Sergio Ramos, L.Suarez, Oblak, Griezmann, Isco,Benzema.Kroos
Premier League_7: Kantè, Coutinho,De Bruyne, De Gea,Kane, Manè, Hazard
Serie A_5: Dybala, Mertens, Dzeko,Buffon,Bonucci
Ligue 1_4: Neymar,Cavani Mbappè,Falcao
Bundesliga_3: Lewandowski, Aubameyang,Hummels

I think Cristiano Ronaldo will win 100% this year, he has won everything by scoring so many decisive goals.

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Quote from: Aneggeers on June 13, 2017, 09:20:29 AM

This one seems closest to Ronaldo IMO, the performance throughout the CL was astonishing and his scoring in both la lega and CL was a key to those tournaments, The biggest competitor isn's going to be Messi (for a change, it probably won't be the two of them) as Kante and various players in Juventus had a very good season themselves.

Well said, Messi is not going to be the ultimate contender of this individual trophy, Buffon or kante would be the replacement of Messi, Messi did well in the league and UCL but it was not enough to make impact on the team result. Whereas Ronaldo did the actual job, which helps to his club to become the record holder.. what a season he passed....

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This one seems closest to Ronaldo IMO, the performance throughout the CL was astonishing and his scoring in both la lega and CL was a key to those tournaments, The biggest competitor isn's going to be Messi (for a change, it probably won't be the two of them) as Kante and various players in Juventus had a very good season themselves.

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