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legendary
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May 06, 2015, 03:24:48 PM
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Surveillance planes spotted in the sky for days after West Baltimore rioting

As Benjamin Shayne settled into his back yard to listen to the Orioles game on the radio Saturday night, he noticed a small plane looping low and tight over West Baltimore — almost exactly above where rioting had erupted several days earlier, in the aftermath of the death of a black man, Freddie Gray, in police custody.

The plane appeared to be a small Cessna, but little else was clear. The sun had already set, making traditional visual surveillance difficult. So, perplexed, Shayne tweeted: “Anyone know who has been flying the light plane in circles above the city for the last few nights?”

That was 9:14 p.m. Seven minutes later came a startling reply. One of Shayne’s nearly 600 followers tweeted back a screen shot of the Cessna 182T’s exact flight path and also the registered owner of the plane: NG Research, based in Bristow, Va.

“The Internet,” Shayne, 39, told his wife, “is an amazing thing.”

What Shayne’s online rumination helped unveil was a previously secret, multi-day campaign of overhead surveillance by city and federal authorities during a period of historic political protest and unrest.

More...http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/surveillance-planes-spotted-in-the-sky-for-days-after-west-baltimore-rioting/2015/05/05/c57c53b6-f352-11e4-84a6-6d7c67c50db0_story.html

I have friends in Baltimore, and they had already seen an increase in police helicopters, but also a few large military planes, has been going on for about 3 weeks BEFORE the incident with Freddie Gray. Why, I don't know.....

There is also a large "blimp" that was put up by one of the military bases in the area that is supposedly used for radar. I'm not really buying that its only used for radar, but how would I ever find out any different?

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/12/18/military-new-surveillance-blimp-takes-to-maryland-skies/
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/u-s-army-launch-2-missile-surveillance-blimps-md-article-1.2049862
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Although they don't have cameras now, the blimps have potential to support infrared cameras. If cameras were used, the blimps would be able to detect and identify people, car models and license plates.
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May 06, 2015, 03:15:50 PM
#70
If you want the rioting to stop then start holding the police accountable for their actions, this is hard because most police departments in America has a gang mentality mindset of "us or them." So 9/10 nothing long-term happens to the officers that are being punished, sure you can dismiss him...he's got another position already waiting for him in the separate county a few miles down the way. So in order to hold officers accountable I purpose the solutions that I read about in an article on zero-hedge start hitting them where it hurts the most... their pocketbook. Taking money from their paychecks and their pensions this will ensure that other officers will police each other when their all held responsible as a department for the bad officers actions.
legendary
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May 06, 2015, 02:58:44 PM
#69
Surveillance planes spotted in the sky for days after West Baltimore rioting

As Benjamin Shayne settled into his back yard to listen to the Orioles game on the radio Saturday night, he noticed a small plane looping low and tight over West Baltimore — almost exactly above where rioting had erupted several days earlier, in the aftermath of the death of a black man, Freddie Gray, in police custody.

The plane appeared to be a small Cessna, but little else was clear. The sun had already set, making traditional visual surveillance difficult. So, perplexed, Shayne tweeted: “Anyone know who has been flying the light plane in circles above the city for the last few nights?”

That was 9:14 p.m. Seven minutes later came a startling reply. One of Shayne’s nearly 600 followers tweeted back a screen shot of the Cessna 182T’s exact flight path and also the registered owner of the plane: NG Research, based in Bristow, Va.

“The Internet,” Shayne, 39, told his wife, “is an amazing thing.”

What Shayne’s online rumination helped unveil was a previously secret, multi-day campaign of overhead surveillance by city and federal authorities during a period of historic political protest and unrest.

More...http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/surveillance-planes-spotted-in-the-sky-for-days-after-west-baltimore-rioting/2015/05/05/c57c53b6-f352-11e4-84a6-6d7c67c50db0_story.html
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May 06, 2015, 01:55:50 AM
#68
20.7% of Jobs in Baltimore Are Government Jobs

Within the borders of Baltimore City in March, according to BLS, there were 364,200 total “employees.” These employees included both people who lived in the city as well as people who lived outside the city but worked within its limits. Singular individuals who were employed in two different jobs at the same time are counted as two employees in the BLS survey.

Of the 364,200 total jobs in Baltimore City in March, 75,500—or 20.7 percent—were jobs working for the government. That included 39,400 state government jobs, 26,000 local government jobs, and 10,100 federal government jobs.

By contrast, there were only 11,600 manufacturing jobs in Baltimore City, according to BLS. That means government had 6.5 times as many employees in Baltimore City as all of the manufacturers located in the city.

Nationwide in March, according to the BLS, total employment was 141,183,000. Employment by government was 21,898,000. Thus, 15.5 percent of the jobs nationwide were government jobs.

More...http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/207-jobs-baltimore-are-government-jobs

This is of those workers who works for the baltimore local government. http://www.newser.com/story/206364/baltimore-city-worker-spent-half-his-time-watching-porn.html
legendary
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May 05, 2015, 09:24:39 PM
#67
20.7% of Jobs in Baltimore Are Government Jobs

Within the borders of Baltimore City in March, according to BLS, there were 364,200 total “employees.” These employees included both people who lived in the city as well as people who lived outside the city but worked within its limits. Singular individuals who were employed in two different jobs at the same time are counted as two employees in the BLS survey.

Of the 364,200 total jobs in Baltimore City in March, 75,500—or 20.7 percent—were jobs working for the government. That included 39,400 state government jobs, 26,000 local government jobs, and 10,100 federal government jobs.

By contrast, there were only 11,600 manufacturing jobs in Baltimore City, according to BLS. That means government had 6.5 times as many employees in Baltimore City as all of the manufacturers located in the city.

Nationwide in March, according to the BLS, total employment was 141,183,000. Employment by government was 21,898,000. Thus, 15.5 percent of the jobs nationwide were government jobs.

More...http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/207-jobs-baltimore-are-government-jobs
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May 05, 2015, 02:48:38 PM
#66
Today and last night is the result of the police mishandling someone they arrested, not getting them immediate medical help, then the due dying. Predictably, many people around the area w/ the same skin color act as though they knew the guy and start doing their usual protesting that inevitably gets taken over by the small and feeble minded, in this case the ghettoheads. The police screwed up but this kind of 'protesting' needs to be rooted out by the respectable members of the neighborhood.

While I understand the angle of protesters - very, very sub-par living standarts in comparison to the rest of N.A. and underemployment, I cant help but notice, that African-Americans react to these circumstances in packish, passive agressive ways as modus operandi. It is really reminiscent of extreme forms of nationalism in last centurys Europe. Just outsiders perspective  Wink

Is there some group that reacts differently?

In N.A.? I see similar behavior among feminists and LGBT activists, but those are not tied together by ethnic self-designation.
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May 05, 2015, 02:01:14 PM
#65
Today and last night is the result of the police mishandling someone they arrested, not getting them immediate medical help, then the due dying. Predictably, many people around the area w/ the same skin color act as though they knew the guy and start doing their usual protesting that inevitably gets taken over by the small and feeble minded, in this case the ghettoheads. The police screwed up but this kind of 'protesting' needs to be rooted out by the respectable members of the neighborhood.

While I understand the angle of protesters - very, very sub-par living standarts in comparison to the rest of N.A. and underemployment, I cant help but notice, that African-Americans react to these circumstances in packish, passive agressive ways as modus operandi. It is really reminiscent of extreme forms of nationalism in last centurys Europe. Just outsiders perspective  Wink
legendary
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May 05, 2015, 01:59:13 AM
#64
Why?  It's because people keep dying to police in what seems like unreasonable circumstances.  But the pendulum swings both ways and there are cops fighting for their lives everyday.

Decriminalize drugs would be a good starting point so I'll go with that as a root cause:

Baltimore burns because drugs are criminalized.
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May 05, 2015, 01:07:39 AM
#63
the police actually have to see you commit a crime in order to chase you or can they pursue you if
you run regardless Huh

Basically in a high crime area can be used as reasonable suspicion to stop that person and investigate him
thanks ...

Looting stores and beating civilians who had nothing to do with what happened to that man who died is wrong.
Undecided
legendary
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May 05, 2015, 12:57:54 AM
#62
the police actually have to see you commit a crime in order to chase you or can they pursue you if
you run regardless Huh

Basically in a high crime area can be used as reasonable suspicion to stop that person and investigate him
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May 05, 2015, 12:52:03 AM
#61
the police actually have to see you commit a crime in order to chase you or can they pursue you if
you run regardless Huh
legendary
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May 05, 2015, 12:00:11 AM
#60
Detroit prosecutor resigns after saying Baltimore rioters should be shot

DETROIT (Reuters) - A Detroit prosecutor who said on Facebook that people involved in Baltimore rioting should be shot has resigned, after her comments ignited fierce criticism, the prosecutor's office said on Friday.

Wayne County Assistant Prosecutor Teana Walsh had posted comments about this week's unrest in Baltimore, which was sparked by the death of Freddie Gray after he was fatally injured in police custody, according to a screenshot of her page posted on MyFox Detroit.com.

She described "large swarms of people throwing bricks etc at police who are fleeing from their assaults" and then suggested using guns.

"Simple. Shoot em. Period. End of discussion," Walsh posted.

The comment, which was criticized by local defense attorneys, has since been taken down from Facebook and Walsh's page is not accessible.

The death of 25-year-old Gray, who was black, has become the latest flashpoint in a national debate over the treatment of minority groups by U.S. law enforcement.

The populations of both Baltimore and Detroit are predominantly black. Nearly two-thirds of Baltimore's population and 83 percent of Detroit's is black. Both communities also experienced brutal race riots in the 1960s.

Walsh called Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy on Friday afternoon to say she was voluntarily resigning, and Worthy accepted, said assistant prosecutor Maria Miller in a statement on Friday.

http://news.yahoo.com/detroit-prosecutor-resigns-saying-baltimore-rioters-shot-193846671.html
legendary
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May 04, 2015, 11:18:49 PM
#59
Fox interviewing witness: says guy was 18-19, sitting on steps of house, police car stopped by house, guy took off, police chased and then fired.

Witness says guy did not have gun in his hand.

A witness?

I witnessed a UFO land in NYC and shapeshift into a horse.

Where is Fox news when the big stories happen?
They were trying to generate a big story here, can't ya tell? It's now almost certain that a black man wasn't shot despite that social media is running with it that the police did so.
legendary
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May 04, 2015, 10:55:41 PM
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Fox News erroneously reports that police in Baltimore shot man

Fox News erroneously reported that Baltimore police shot a man Monday in the same neighborhood where unrest broke out last week — a mistake quickly corrected by the news network.

The midafternoon report by correspondent Mike Tobin, which also found its way onto Foxnews.com, was potentially dangerous, given the elevated tensions in Baltimore’s Sandtown section, where protests and looting erupted in the wake of the death of Freddie Gray while in police custody.

Tobin’s report caused about 30 minutes of unease in Baltimore before Fox anchor Shepard Smith went on-air to correct the story and apologize for the incorrect information. His apology followed a statement from Baltimore police that there had been no shooting.

More...http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/as-it-turned-out-nobody-was-shot-fox-news-quickly-reverses-report-of-baltimore-shooting/2015/05/04/9fc9c824-f299-11e4-84a6-6d7c67c50db0_story.html

You've got to be kidding, Fox just lost all cred on this here.
legendary
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May 04, 2015, 10:50:36 PM
#57
Fox reporting police statement: while running away, suspect dropped pistol, pistol went off accidentally, that's when cop fired
legendary
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May 04, 2015, 10:50:06 PM
#56
Fox interviewing witness: says guy was 18-19, sitting on steps of house, police car stopped by house, guy took off, police chased and then fired.

Witness says guy did not have gun in his hand.
legendary
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May 04, 2015, 10:48:55 PM
#55
Another black man was shot in Baltimore tonight, it's being shown on Fox right now good grief. Will post more soon. Apparently shot in the back but this one was allegedly armed.
legendary
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May 04, 2015, 06:27:54 PM
#54
Baltimore got $1.8 billion in stimulus for education, crime prevention

The city of Baltimore received over $1.8 billion from President Barack Obama’s stimulus law, including $467.1 million to invest in education and $26.5 million for crime prevention.

President Obama claimed last Tuesday that if the Republican-controlled Congress would implement his policies to make “massive investments in urban communities,” they could “make a difference right now” in the city, currently in upheaval following the death of Freddie Gray.

However, a Washington Free Beacon analysis found that the Obama administration and Democratically-controlled Congress did make a “massive” investment into Baltimore, appropriating $1,831,768,487 though the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA), commonly known as the stimulus.

More...http://freebeacon.com/issues/baltimore-received-1-8-billion-from-obamas-stimulus-law/

See how money ever so efficiently solves all the problems over here? Progressivism works so eloquently. Roll Eyes End the drug war and stop subsidizing people (single mothers) from having children and the inner city problem would be solved.
legendary
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May 03, 2015, 10:25:36 PM
#53
U.S. Split Along Racial Lines on Backlash Against Police, Poll Finds

Americans are bracing for a summer of racial disturbances around the country, such as those that have wracked Baltimore, with African Americans and whites deeply divided about why the urban violence has occurred, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll has found.

A resounding 96% of adults surveyed said it was likely there would be additional racial disturbances this summer, a signal that Americans believe Baltimore’s recent problems aren’t a local phenomenon but instead are symptomatic of broader national problems.

When asked to explain recent events in Baltimore and other cities that have seen confrontations between police and members of the African-American community, blacks and whites viewed the situation differently.

Asked to choose between two possible explanations for recent events, 60% of blacks said they reflected “long-standing frustrations about police mistreatment of African Americans.” Some 27% of black respondents said the disturbances were caused by people who used protests over an African American man dying in police custody  “as an excused to engage in looting and violence.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/05/03/u-s-split-along-racial-lines-on-backlash-against-police-poll-finds/
legendary
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May 03, 2015, 10:23:32 PM
#52
Baltimore protesters celebrate, defy curfew after officers charged

Baltimore (AFP) - Protesters in Baltimore erupted in celebration and hundreds of people broke the city's curfew, a day after six police officers were charged over the death of an African-American man in their custody.

The death of 25-year-old Freddie Gray had sparked rioting and days of protests in the US East Coast port city over alleged police racism and brutality.

But the mood on the streets was drastically different on Saturday, with people singing and dancing as they cheered the charges including second-degree murder and manslaughter laid against the six police officers -- three of them black.

More...http://news.yahoo.com/thousands-hold-street-party-baltimore-officers-charged-021024806.html
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