Topic: [BAN APPEAL] UID: 1035888 (Read 576 times)

But at least I admit it.


Maybe being an active member will do


With all the time I wasted to prove that it was my uncle's, you're still not convinced. Good luck on finding the others The last time the forum trusts a high merit guy (TYM), becomes a scammer like it was his plan all along.


It was hard to get a merit. I have other important stuffs to do rather than collecting 100 merits to be a full member again.


Not today but maybe next time. I'm mostly here for bounties with somehow good post. I couldn't post now because of possible permanent ban due to ban evasion. I rather keep this account silent instead of worsening its situation.

If I could request something from the admin, is for him to delete this thread. This would be my last post here. I won't spend my time anymore on explaining myself for a little chance of removing the ban, so goodbye everyone.

I'm sorry to say this, but from this statement given above by O.P, it's quite stupid and a clear indication that it seems O.P is still not yet fit to be here on this forum, and I don't mind if he should be issued a second temporary ban on this current account and given time to go read back the unofficial forum rules till he understands every bit of what stated in those rule, because from his first conversation, I can sense he still behaves like a "forum Newbie" and ought to be handling a "Newbie" account and not a "Full member" account. Because who knows if this account does not belong to his stepfather, since it seems every member of his family has an account here😀😀.

OP I was trying to figure out your predicament here and still yet your case is very complicated but in all, you appealing for a banned account is not bad but you should have created a fresh new account for the task instead of getting others account involved in this appeal. Do you know that this account might likely cause you another problem or stress of explaining yourself over and over again and again sometime when it is not enough that what you have isuued I kit clear enough.

That doesn't help you, does it? It's like saying there are so many unsolved murders, why does the police bother arresting me? Or, why do I have to get a speeding ticket when so many other individuals drive way too fast as well?

As decodx rightly pointed out, can you name a few reasons what Bitcointalk would lose with you gone? To put it differently, can you list what Bitcointalk gains if the admins forgave your violations and unbanned your account/accounts? Those are some of the things the admins will look at. Community support is also important, which is something that is not easy to get as you can see.

Posting with your own account remains your personal responsibility, and I can't find any valid justification to suggest otherwise. Moreover, as a thread moderator, you hold an even greater responsibility towards the forum community. Promoting a project that turns out to be a scam reflects poorly on your role as a moderator. It only takes a quick Google search, which takes less than ten seconds, to verify if the content you're sharing is plagiarized or stolen from elsewhere.


I can't help but wonder if you might be one of them.


If you're hoping to get the admins to reconsider your ban, you'll need to demonstrate that your contributions have had a positive impact and that lifting the ban would actually benefit the community. But, it seems quite unlikely that you can effectively make a compelling argument in this regard.

Honest mistake on plagiarism issue. I just do copy paste that time from the stuffs given to me to post it on the ann thread without checking the source. I was shocked that it was from another website that I didn't visit even once.

There are still many users evading bans that do their normal thing without being caught. I admit that I use another account without knowing that it was illegal here, so I tried to appeal again even though it was too late and almost impossible to unban since I already posting on other threads outside meta.

If admins won't unban me then I just move on and focus on trading crypto again.

I don't think your chances of getting your account or accounts unbanned and reinstated are good. Many people have been banned in the past for plagiarism-related offences and very few are forgiven. Even if it's true that you worked as a bounty manager and ANN poster for that ICO, you still copied their texts and posted them in your name, which makes it look like you wrote them. All that you had to do to not get in trouble was to post a link to the source or make it clear you aren't the owner of those posts.

Even if the admins were to look past those plagiarism cases, there is still the multiple ban evasions. You borrowed and used alt accounts to request loans on the forum, which wasn't allowed according to forum rules. You participated in other activities outside of a ban evasion thread, which is also not allowed.

Admins sometimes forgive users who have greatly contributed to Bitcointalk but made a mistake. If you dodge and don't respect the rules to continue earning on the forum, they generally don't look that lightly on that sort of thing.   

I’m only working for solarex_ico in this forum as bounty manager and ann thread moderator. I have no contact anymore after the project is dead. The last time we made contact is thru telegram where he was sending me the stuffs that I post in the announcement thread.

The account isn’t bought. Have you really read the whole thread? LOL! It was borrowed and later renounced ownership to me by a family member. I just said that I was not around when he created it since we are not in the same house and you just making conclusions that it was bought. The forum was popular back then and I told this to my family members so that they can have extra income too. As a college student during that time, it was really a big help for me to lessen the school expenses.

Are there still any questions you want to ask?

Here I am wondering why your partner, Solarex_ICO, as you claim, has not written anything here. Contact him, let him write something in your defense. Although it seems to me that it is useless in your case.


Oh, my friend, so your account is bought. I'm liking the way you're tightening the "noose around your neck" more and more


The first only correct words written by you in this topic

Plagiarism issue:

This was for the announcement thread and the things I posted there doesn't come from my own. I was posting on behalf of solarex since I was a moderator of that thread. I was just assigned to post those shits. I thought there would be some exceptions when it comes to announcement threads since it was for altcoin promotion and updates. If I only knew this would not end well, then I would just reject being a thread moderator and focus only on bounty management.

There is no plagiarism applied on all of my post aside from that announcement thread.

(Honest mistake)

If only the reason for ban was well-explained to me on the messages, then I could make an accurate appeal regarding on my ban. Not just banning along with ambiguous statement like

BTC wallet address issue:

btcedgar was obviously an alt of btsjungkook since he was posting on behalf of his account since the btsjungkook was banned during the bounty campaign of C

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.25633998 (on: December 02, 2017, 11:09:51 PM)

I was the first one who use that btc wallet for the C bounty campaign and as you can see that the eth address is different from them,

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.26406759 (on: December 16, 2017, 01:56:47 AM)

Before I post a reply, there is a topic summary below where I can check if I'm doing the right thing. I saw a post that quotes this from the OP:

Quote from: Ehrhc on December 01, 2017, 11:38:52 AM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.25546112


from https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.26409135

It wasn't there during the initial post, but the OP edited it since the bitcoin's price was skyrocketing that time. The OP might be confused if I want btc or eth as a payment for my bounty work since I stated both btc and eth address on my post, so I was finding someone with the same situation as me where they also include their eth address where I saw one, but he/she didn't state if he wants btc or eth as a payment. Then there is one post that I saw where btcedgar stated "Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment." where I copied it and inserted it on my post so that the OP will know that I also want btc as a payment. I saw the same btc wallet address but I wasn't worried at first since I was the one who posted it before him until you guys used it against me and accused me that it was my alt.

barlo357 and btsjungkook account creation issue:

This is only a coincidence. I really have no idea about btsjungkook's account creation. I wasn't there when the real owner of barlo357 created this account. He just informed me that he created a bitcointalk account and guide him. During the time btsjungkook was on the C bounty campaign where he joined on december 2017, barlo357 was on INS bounty campaign where he joined on october 2017 until january 2018 and joined smt bounty campaign after (ins and smt were under deadley's bounty management).

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P.S. This thread made me fucking exhausted from remembering the actions I did before. If there's really a low chance for my main account to be unbanned, then this is not worth trying and just move on from this forum.

Your account was banned about four years ago, during a wave of permanent bans primarily related to plagiarism. Once banned, you cannot use any other accounts on the forum except for one to create a ban appeal thread in the meta section. Creating additional posts in other threads with other accounts is also a bannable offense.

Regarding your claim of being banned for excessive bumping of Solarex_ICO, it is incorrect. Upon reviewing your post history, I found at least two clear cases of copy-paste plagiarism, which you seem to have forgotten.

An example:


Source: https://www.smart-energy.com/features-analysis/electricity-theft-south-africa/

Instances of copy-paste plagiarism like yours usually led to permanent bans. And, appealing such bans rarely resulted in them being lifted. What complicates your case even further is the fact that you resorted to "borrowing" other people's accounts to continue posting on the forum after your main account was banned. People have also discovered more of the alt accounts you've used in the past, which doesn't look good for you. Even though you deny association with some of the mentioned accounts, especially the ones that are already banned, the evidence suggests otherwise.

For example, you claim you don't know why BTCedgar (alt of btsjimin and btsjungkook) used your BTC address, but the timestamps of these posts clearly show that you copied his message, not the other way around.



You two are the only ones on the forum who have ever used that specific phrase: "Sir, I put my eth address but I want bitcoin as payment.", and his message came first. So, even if it were true that he used your address, for some inexplicable reason, it is highly unlikely that you wouldn't have noticed it since you copied his message.

Besides, your account barlo357 and btsjungkook (alt of BTCedgar) were created on the same day, which makes this kind of coincidence even less likely.



Considering all the factors at hand, as much as I would like to give you the benefit of the doubt, it appears that your case for appeal is quite weak. Sorry.

I sent an appeal via email last 2019 but there is no response. I also sent a follow up to know if they are working on my ban appeal but still no response. I still send ban appeals while borrowing accounts but there is really no response. You didnt ask if i appeal before but this was my first time appealing thru posting on meta.

I knew before that the proper appeal was via email and not thru posting on meta back then. I saw ban appeals on meta but I didnt like to address my issue publicly before because people are just shaming the defendant and most of their bans are not getting removed.

They're focusing on the accounts connected and that you used instead of on rule #13 is because the accounts are quite a pile. It indicated that you're --one may argue-- a prolific ban evader. The decision to lift the ban is completely on the hand of mods, although they'll quite likely listen to the community's opinion and take it to their consideration alongside with the reputation and the contribution made by the account in question.

My apology, but I have to agree with bitcoingirl, you're digging your hole, a massive one, because it is revealed that you're not only utilizing barlo and sumangs, there are couple other accounts you "borrowed" as well. One that came to my mind that perhaps could help us understand you --and from it, you helping yourself with this case-- is probably to explain why you use and borrow those accounts instead of appealing for the ban to be lifted on the first place? Why now? You said and I quote,


What?

I advise you to read the thread again, more carefully.

Is anyone thinking what I'm thinking concerning this content, because I noticed that this user soliciting directly, officially to this account should be the own of banned account he is soliciting, when reading this composition theirs no place op Said that someone asked he or her to make this post on behalf of someone, so right now is using his alternative account to seek for help for the banned account. When reading this composition I fish out some certain things. But don't take my points to heart but I need to express my feelings.

my created accounts:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sumangs-1035888 - main account banned
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bristlefront-1180107 - alt but i lend this to a friend (no access anymore)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/barontamago-1373641 - alt but i lend this to a friend (no access anymore)

accounts i borrowed during my main account was banned:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dyswv-1163354 - my friend owns this. i used this to request a loan for trading purposes, that is why the btc address is same as sumangs when applying for a loan. I didnt use it anymore after the loan request wasnt granted.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/selectaselectine-1227570 - my friend owns this. i used this for bcnex sig campaign since my main was banned. We agreed to share the bounty rewards after. I didnt use it anymore after the bounty was done. I made one last post regarding to the scam allegations against solarex since my main account that was working for solarex was banned.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/barlo357-1193282 - my relative owns this and the account i currently use

accounts that i borrowed before my main account was banned:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/barloblake-2031561 - my relative owns this. he created this for backup. I opened this only once.

accounts that i neither owned nor a friend:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/btcedgar-1361323 - i dont know why he used my btc address
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/btsjungkook-1194486 - i dont know why he used my btc address
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/btsjimin-1199549 - alt or friend of btsjunkook

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With due respect to you, I won't spend my time here making stories and I won't blame you if you dont want to believe the "friend" or "relative" thing that I'm mentioning. Of course, I won't disclose any personal details about them that is why i addressed them like that. They're all inactive in this forum and I don't want to bother them anymore to vouch for me. I'm answering your questions with almost full honesty as I don't remember the exact details of the events before, but I hope my answers would make things clear.

My man, you are now digging your own grave LOL

I think you have no idea about how the forum work or you would not come to this is my friend, he is friend type of stories. Now you are confusing us about your actual existence. Which one was your first account that was used to make the very first post you made?

barlo357, Bristlefront, Dyswv, Selectaselectine, sumangs or it's not listed yet?

Look, having alt account is not prohibited on the forum. As long as you do not break alt rules on signature campaigns and any of your accounts are banned, you will be fine but it seems decodx found something to challenge you.

I think you yourself made things complicated. Rather than discussing your ban appeal for the account "sumangs" (u=1035888), why not first clarify whether you are ban evading and how many other accounts you have on the forum?

So far we have these potential suspects:

	Date Registered:	Last Active:	Status:
sumangs (u=1035888)	June 18, 2017	Today	banned
DySWv (u=1163354)	September 21, 2017	May 15, 2020	inactive
bristlefront (u=1180107)	October 01, 2017	November 26, 2019	inactive
barlo357 (u=1193282)	October 07, 2017	Today	active
btsjungkook (u=1194486)	October 07, 2017	February 02, 2020	banned
btsjimin (u=1199549)	October 09, 2017	March 15, 2023	banned
selectaselectine (u=1227570)	October 18, 2017	November 21, 2019	inactive
BTCedgar (u=1361323)	November 29, 2017	August 27, 2021	banned
barlo_blake (u=2031561)	April 14, 2018	August 01, 2018	inactive

Could you kindly clarify the connection between these accounts and disclose any other accounts you manage? You are under no obligation to do so, but providing this information could shed light on your situation and potentially help the managers' evaluation of your ban appeal case.

I rarely attending to a ban appeal on meta, but I think I'll make this one an exception as I am the one advising OP to stop posting with this current account [barlo357] and begin to do what he's been intending to do on meta, otherwise his posts will and can be considered as ban evasion.

The link given by lovesmayfamilis is the starting point of the mess that OP is currently facing. I am advising anyone who read this thread to give the link a read to get a better grasp of the situation.

As for OP, I understand correctly that your appeal here is not to lift the ban against sumangs and instead to declare and request dissociation from any other previous account, including barlo_and-I-forgot-the-dog's-name so that this current account will not and can not be considered as a ban-evasive account? ^{with these clusterfuck of accounts set aside for now as that is the last thing my head need in between this current hammering migraine}

If I may give my personal opinion, I think is that OP did not know he broke some rules. Not the burst posting or whatever it is that caused sumangs to be banned or that there is a thing called ban evasion. If I may try to put myself on OP's shoes, I think he thought when he got his account banned, he can create a new one --or inherited [re-herited?] one-- and posts normally again. Of course, this is purely my assumption, but if it's what happened, I think it is an honest and unintentional mistake, and if the paragraph above is what OP aimed to achieve from this thread, my two cents is that it worth a shot to give OP benefits of doubt and grant his wish. ^{[Again, this post is made while setting that whole clusterfuck of accounts aside]}

Because i admit it using my uncle’s account. Making another account for appeal would be hassle since i need to make another email for it (as far as i know, bitcointalk account requires a working email). I decided not to make another account for making an appeal post again. I’ll just follow what the other forum member said where I should not make a post on other threads aside from meta.

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I think let’s not make this complicated. I make an appeal for my account 1035888 here. Instead of talking about it, you are redirecting on this account’s ban evasion offense in which it doesn’t help on my account 1035888’s situation.

So that people can better understand what you are talking about, OP, it was worth adding a link to the beginning of your story.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62313258



You are a cheerful guy. I think that you have amused many here with your rules