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Topic: BAN "Giveaway" Promotion Scam to Fake Users & stolen mining equipment. - page 14. (Read 21296 times)

legendary
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Yo, fire000, maybe you are s0br? Your first post and 75% of your other ones seem to be about the Bitcoin Affiliate Network so you certainly fit the profile of a shill. Toddle along now. Infact, it seems that everyone supporting BAN can only debate these things at the level of a child or WHO CAN SHOUT THE LOUDEST.
hero member
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something something Bitcoin
Myself and the pool owner have not been hiding, not refused to answer any questions, not refused to disclose anything, and have provided ample proof of our actions, and been 100% transparent with what we have been doing.

For there to be a scam, someone needs to have put up money and been taken for it. Some sort of theft, loss, etc. None of the accusers mine at our pool, nor did they invest any money, or anything else. There was no fee to enter the S3 contest and anyone who didn't win was no worse off than they were on July 31st. At this point this has gone to such a level that there is a burden of proof on the accusers, something concrete, something cohesive, something based in facts.

EDIT: In fact the pool is 0% fee.

It's not that the accusers don't get answers, they get answers they don't like. And s0br hasn't been missing, when he responds, he doesn't say exactly what the accusers want him to, which becomes more "lying, scam, hiding Elvis, etc." And when it became clear that logic and reason didn't factor into the accusers' game, that's when we all kind of started treating these threads like a joke. The accuser can't even follow the appropriate format for a scam accusation because there's nothing there to support it.

So, once again, I am asking for your proof. We've provided above normal payouts, public statistics, 24 hour tech support, payment resolution, and as much data as we can around our giveaway. You've provided nothing but a convoluted string of thoughts on this forum and made accusations with nothing behind them except more stuff from this forum.

Here's the thing: if you'd rather judge a pool by a contest you didn't win than PPS payouts as often as hourly, then you're probably better off using multiple addresses to do Publisher's Clearing House entries. And good luck with that. Maybe you can hire that photo forensics expert.
member
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SO I NOW THROW THIS QUESTION OUT TO THE TROLLS WHICH POOL PAYING YA TO ATTACK BAN OR WHICH POOLS ADMIN ARE YA Huh??   AS IT QUITE CLEAR THIS IS A DOWN RIGHT BASELESS ATTACK ON A POOL THAT OUT DOES EVERY OTHER BTC POOL PAYOUT WISE AND SOMEONE REALLY WORRIED OUT THERE THAT THEIR POOLS ARE ABOUT TO FACE YET ANOTHER NEW THREAT AS THEY DID WITH F2pool AND THE ATTACKS ARE COMING FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT EVEN CONNECTED TO THE POOL IN SHAPE OR FORM AS CAN BE FOUND IN THE BAN THREAD THEY HAVE TOLD US ON A NUMBER OF TIMES THEY DO NOT EVEN MINE THERE AND NEVER HAVE <<<<<<     THIS CAN BE BEEN SEEN BY EVERYONE BY SOME SIMPLE READING of THE BAN THREAD

AND THE ADMIN OF BAN MUST BE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT FOR BTC POOLS IF THESE TROLLS NEED TO TARGET IT DAY IN AND OUT FOR WEEKS NON STOP AND FEEL THREATEN BY A SMALL BTC POOL


PS THE POOL OWNER HAS THROWN OUT THE CHALLENGE TO THESE CLOWNS (TROLLS) TO TAKE IT TO A LAWYER ETC AND HE EVEN OFFERED TO PAY FOR IT LETS SEE WHAT THE CLOWNS DO HERE AS THE BALL IN THERE COURT NOW TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP THE CHALLENGE IS IN THE BAN THREAD FOR THESE 4-5 TROLLS ...........   AS THE POOL OWNER CAN BACK EVERYTHING UP AND IS AT A GUESS HOPING YOU TAKE THE OFFER UP SO HE CAN THEN SUE YA ASSES
member
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No that was the tracking details for the 31 s3's sent to s0br for the competition.

Has a tracking list been posted?

The initial shipment of S3's to the pool owner was posted, and winners received tracking #'s for their individual shipments. That list was not posted out of respect for privacy. I posted my tracking #, proof of delivery, and everything else, and was accused of faking photos, etc, etc. Which would be fine... if there was anything to substantiate it other than "the proof is in the other thread." For example if you're going to insist someone has faked a photo, you need to be able to back that up.

No one's hidden anything and the accusers have refused to do anything but point fingers and speculate.

We have always been willing to discuss actual facts.

SO true as it so easy to follow in the BAN thread to the normal person these TROLLS are making themselfs look dumber by the min as they can NOT read and been going on with the same BS for weeks now and does not BLAME SOBR FOR locking the BAN thread when YA dealing with idoits like these day in and out for last few weeks NOW cause they CAN NOT read SIMPLE PLAIN ENGLISH
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
something something Bitcoin
No that was the tracking details for the 31 s3's sent to s0br for the competition.

Has a tracking list been posted?

The initial shipment of S3's to the pool owner was posted, and winners received tracking #'s for their individual shipments. That list was not posted out of respect for privacy. I posted my tracking #, proof of delivery, and everything else, and was accused of faking photos, etc, etc. Which would be fine... if there was anything to substantiate it other than "the proof is in the other thread." For example if you're going to insist someone has faked a photo, you need to be able to back that up.

No one's hidden anything and the accusers have refused to do anything but point fingers and speculate.

We have always been willing to discuss actual facts.

EDIT: I am sure others would be willing to post tracking #s as well but it is their decision.
member
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right you dumb trolls I going to jump in here A) phwner has dumped a tracking number that is clear as day to follow in the BAN thread it show a package from point a to B    AND if the dumb trolls looked at the tracking numbers above they are from batmain to the US it NOT hard to work you DUMB ASS TROLLS

NOW if the dumb ass trolls can not research correct and see the above tracking numbers went from china to the us and then the tracking number phawner dropped show it then moved from point a to b  

Then this will show it as I was a winner and I too have got my ant as you can see clear as day the package went from the US to AUS    and if you follow the 1st set of tracking numbers they were from china to the US
https://www.fedex.com/fedextrack/WTRK/index.html?action=track&trackingnumber=804301387745&cntry_code=au&fdx=1490

NOW YOU DUMB ASS TROLLS GAVE UP AS ANY SMART PERSON CAN SEE THAT THE SET ABOVE IN THE SCREEN SHOTs WERE FROM CHINA TO THE US AND SORB ALSO STATES IN THE BAN THREAD THAT WHAT THOSE NUMBERS WERE BEFORE HE POSTED THEM TO SHUT THE TROLLS UP THEN WHICH TRY THE BS THEY ARE NOW

NOW I SUGGEST IF ANYONE BUYS IN TO THESE TROLLS AND THEIR BS DO SOME RESEARCH AS THE PAPER TRAIL THERE TO SHOOT THE TROLLS DOWN NICE TRY GUYS   PS CAN EVEN SCAN THE DELIVERY  DOCKET LMAO minus the address of cause and the CUSTOM papers BUT ANY CLEVER SANE PERSON CAN FOLLOW THE TRAIL OF THE ABOVE SET OF TRACKING NUMBER TO SEE THEY WENT FROM CHINA TO THE US THAN THE TRACKING NUMBER I DROPPED FROM THE US TO AUS

GAVE IT A REST YA DUMB ASS TROLLS AS YA BEEN AT IT FOR A FEW WEEKS NOW WITH NO GOD DAMN PROOF ETC WHERE WE ALL DROPPED PROOF BUT YET YA WANT TO KEEP GOING ON THIS DOWN OUT RIGHT ATTACK ON A POOL THAT DELIVERED TIME AND TIME AGAIN


PS THESE TROLLS HAVE BEEN TOLD GOD KNOWS HOW MANY TIMES NOW THAT LIST OF TRACKING NUMBERS ABOVE WERE THE S3 TRACKING NUMBERS FROM BAITMAN TO SOBR IN THE BAN THREAD AS CAN BE QUITE CLEARLY SEEN BY ANYONE THAT READS IT AND KNOW HOW TO READ ENGLISH AND HAS HALF A BRAIN WHICH THE 3-5 TROLLS CLEARLY DO NOT HAVE EITHER SKILL

NOR KNOW HOW TO FOLLOW TRACKING NUMBERS


I SUGGEST A FEW OTHER WINNERS PLACE THEIR FED EX TRACKING NUMBERS UP HERE AS IT SHOTS THESE DUMB ASS TROLLS DEAD IN THE WATER
KWH
legendary
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In Collateral I Trust.
No that was the tracking details for the 31 s3's sent to s0br for the competition.

Has a tracking list been posted?
newbie
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No that was the tracking details for the 31 s3's sent to s0br for the competition.
KWH
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1045
In Collateral I Trust.
Is this a confirmed, partial list of the tracking numbers for the giveaways?




legendary
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You've warned people, now I guess it is time to move on. I'm sure you can spend your time doing something a lot more constructive and make back anything you may of lost that way. It's clear there is something fishy going on with this mining pool and the admins are a bunch of jerks - especially ThePhwner who shouldn't be let anywhere near customers. I'm sure s0br knows about this thread and actively avoids it, he'd rather delete any opposition in threads he can control. Remember to throw the keywords out there for search engines to find - Bitcoin Affiliate Network is a scam
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Welcome to dogietalk.bs
I see s0br is online, has unlocked his pool thread & continues to delete posts......he has also removed the header that was promoting his "S3 giveaway", despite constantly refusing to do so up until, well, now actually.......

Now, that says something, does it not?  Roll Eyes

All he has to do now is do what people have been asking him to do & answer a few questions.

Edit: Nope, he's locked it again.  Roll Eyes
full member
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I have to go for a while, but will check in later to see if s0br has responded.
full member
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Prove it.
When there are a lot of newbie accounts winning prizes it is almost certain there is some kind of scam going on (or anytime a lot of newbie accounts are involved). Remember that it takes very little effort to create a new account and there is no limit as to how many accounts someone can control.

Most games have certain terms that limit the entrants to people who are not a newbie to prevent this kind of manulipation
KWH
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1045
In Collateral I Trust.
Prove it.

When someone posts something like this, usually they are guilty in some sense.

But you need proof.  OP, do you have any proof?  

The proof is all in the BAN thread, including the two pics that Phawner uploaded claiming them to be the same miner he "won" - even though they were pictures of two completely different units with completely different labels on them, which was pointed out the very moment he did it. That's if s0br didn't delete them of course, but everything is mirrored. The brand new & fake accounts belonging to the "winners" are also freely viewable......or were, I haven't checked today.....

And you're right about the "prove it" thing too, thanks.

How many of the winners were new accounts?
full member
Activity: 237
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Prove it.

When someone posts something like this, usually they are guilty in some sense.

But you need proof.  OP, do you have any proof?  

The proof is all in the BAN thread, including the two pics that Phawner uploaded claiming them to be the same miner he "won" - even though they were pictures of two completely different units with completely different labels on them, which was pointed out the very moment he did it. That's if s0br didn't delete them of course, but everything is mirrored. The brand new & fake accounts belonging to the "winners" are also freely viewable......or were, I haven't checked today.....

And you're right about the "prove it" thing too, thanks.

As I have stated before, this post was moved to the scam thread by a moderator. I was hoping to get s0br to finally answer the questions I and others have asked repeatedly, but it seems the admin & his shills would rather post childish pictures or obscenities instead. I don't want to lock this thread and start a moderated thread for s0br only just yet, as there are still a couple more shills to show their faces, but if I can't get a single bit of sense out of the pool admin - I might have to do it sooner rather than later.

I expected better from a pool operator & his admin, and am a little disappointed that they have chosen the childish route instead of making an effort to clear their names - it gives other good, honest & hard working pool operators a bad name, as well as Bitcoin in general.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
Prove it.

When someone posts something like this, usually they are guilty in some sense.

But you need proof.  OP, do you have any proof?  
hero member
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Phaker, unless you have something to say that does not include mindless swearing, insults or threats of violence - it's probably better you don't say anything at all. You are not making things any easier for s0br to justify your actions, and it is a little pathetic, tbh.

How do you manage to stutter on a forum? Well played sir, well played.

My rebuttal:



Your scam thread is going swimmingly.
hero member
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something something Bitcoin
Phaker, unless you have something to say that does not include mindless swearing, insults or threats of violence - it's probably better you don't say anything at all. You are not making things any easier for s0br to justify your actions, and it is a little pathetic, tbh.

Lol threats of violence. ok. The special bonus I envisioned was a nice box of Panko-breaded duck testicles, just for you.

Go start your scam thread Opie. We're waiting.
full member
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Phaker, unless you have something to say that does not include mindless swearing, insults or threats of violence - it's probably better you don't say anything at all. You are not making things any easier for s0br to justify your actions, and it is a little pathetic, tbh.
hero member
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Merit: 500
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Tell ya what, post your real name and physical address, I will personally hand-deliver the S3 that s0br sent me, along with a special bonus.

And yes. You're. A. Wanker.

No thanks, I got too many as it is.

That's real admin talk. Well done. You're doing your pool proud... Roll Eyes

P.S. - You can't even prove you're actually a miner, lamer.
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