Topic: Basic IQ test on Satoshi's identity - page 2. (Read 6087 times)

At the rate you're throwing around insults, you're definitively angry.

You confused the definition of "anger" with that of "frank statement of reality".

Who is angry? Maybe those who are stupid are angry. They usually get angry about anything being stupid as they are. They especially believe that no one should ever speak Truth when it impacts someone's emotional delusion.

One of the reasons I started this thread, was to teach. To help others be smarter. That is empathy.

Is this an emotional test or an analytical poll?

I want to be analytical and rational. Emotions usually interfere with these goals. There is a role for empathy, but not when making an analysis.

Even Spock expressed empathy (about teaching) didn't he (because it was logical to do so)?

That's a lot of anger about a poll result O.o

Finally some sanity! Thank you.

If you think at Satoshi as a person who made serious efforts to remain anonymous and agree that person used his real name as nickname  you must be not stupid but plain imbecile.

My point was that if as a community we are not rational, then we are doomed to end up just like fiat.

It is sad for me to see even someone technical who is supposed to be very intelligent such as DeathAndTaxes speculating that Dorian might be the real creator of Bitcoin. The only possible way I could see that is if he was forced under duress to put his name on a public paper while simultaneously forced to pretend he wanted to be anonymous. This could be some bizarro disinformation scheme of the higher powers that be. But that really pushes Occam's Razor away.


Then why was "Satoshi" so damn careful for two years to never even once leak his IP address. Do you know how difficult that is?


Could you unpack that to English please in way that refutes my prior sentence and question?


Again this does not refute my important sentence and question above.


No I am basing it on the evidence as stated in my above sentence and question.

There is just no way to get around that which is rational unless he was under duress.


The impossibility of your scenario is my important sentence and question above.


To the illogical such as yourself, noise is indistinguishable from logic.

Very smart people know me as being a very astute reductionist. I make mistakes sometimes, I am still human. I can break very complex patterns down to their essence. This is why I am such a damn good programmer. I can literally put 100s of variables in my head and "see" the answer (pull away the dependent variables and have remaining the independent ones).

People who think that IQ has any value have low intelligence.

Plausible deniability is useless when the government can kidnap and waterboard. That is why AnonyMint will never create an anonymous altcoin. I might help someone else to get started on creating one, and then quickly exit stage left.

None of the logic about Satoshi being foolish at the start makes sense, since he never made a mistake in 2 years that allowed his IP address to get traced. Why would he bother to be so diligent if he knew he had already revealed his name.

What we probably have here is an overzealous news organization, police, and typical "I saw a UFO effect" (in my dream but sure seems real to me now) on memory. See Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds.

What we really have here is a group emotional need to know who their hero is. It is an insatiable need. That is what is helping to push the delusion of the crowd in this case.

Just a few observations.

1.  You spend a great deal of time and energy belittling others especially in ways that are implicitly braggadocios.  Most of the time you attack people intelligence or masculinity.  I find it pathetic and very telling.

2.  Dorian Prentice Satoshi Nakamoto allegedly used an outdated version of his legal name when he published the paper and in his early communications.  He may have found this light pseudo anonymity enough when he was musing about the creation of bitcoin.

3.  DPSN may have found traction in the growing interest in who he was and obvious confusion as to his possible identities as an advantage of greater anonymity than he had counted on having when he used his birth name in the beginning.  Perhaps he then decided along the way to bail as bitcoin grew at a pace and to a size he had not expected (there is some evidence SN thought bitcoin was growing too fast).

4.  Your "logic" is based both in full hindsight as well as rooted in your own values (extreme anonymity an obvious one).  This leads you to a possible error in thought.

It could simply be, that if Dorian is THE Satoshi that he didn't feel an overly strong need to be completely anonymous until his creation began to have minor success, and then as it went from minor to major he took advantage of the fact no one had put two and two together and faded into the shadows.

I imagine he might have even planned a strategy to deal with this inevitable day.

I personally do not know if DPSN is SN.

I know your "logic" is full of shit though.

We can gleem what he wanted based on the (apparently intentional) flaws in his design.

Only Satoshi knows what Satoshi wants.

So many idiots, so little time.

Ignoring.

You failed the basic IQ test.

You put hearsay and the desire of humans to be important, ahead of irrefutable logic. Sad.

Logic fail. If he is rational and if he made the mistake of putting his real name on the original paper, then he wouldn't bother putting so much effort on being anonymous after that, because he is smart and rational enough to realize he already fucked it up.

High IQ and the ability to make stupid mistakes are not mutually exclusive (unless your trying to infer that Satoshi is a complete idiot). Even the greatest minds have made errors it is only human. That being said it would be a completely and utterly stupid move to make all the effort to remain anonymous and use your name as your handle.

+1

I like this response.

Sorry if you can't wrap your mind around the fact that it is complete and it excludes the relevance of any other scenarios, unless we assume Satoshi was irrational, which is quite clear he was extremely rational and his IQ is some where in my realm. This will soon become evident to you.


I am not. This is what allows me to make things that are "magic" to you.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" - Arthur C. Clarke


No I showed mathematically that can't be true and that we actually live in a universe where spacetime exists in the domain of unbounded frequencies and phases. This explains how to conceptualize that there is no edge to the universe in 4D. That is my blog.

based on original  Bitcoin paper,  from the worse reference index, we know that creator of Bitcoin  maybe only own  Bachelor degree.

As everyone plainly knows we live in a 4 dimensional universe where people's emotional state at the last point in their life reverberates backwards through time to every other point. Since soon after the paper (its not at all possibly that his desire for privacy was an outgrowth of attention received); Satoshi wanted to remain anonymous his desires would have clearly undone the mistake of using his real name to begin with (clearly this could not have been his real name).

Thank god for the retrograde movement of desires which create a standardized emotional space envelope; It keeps us all from saying "derp i shouldn't have done that" because its not like after using your real name once you can say don't call me that any more without being even more suspicious.  

I'm not saying that he is who Newsweek claims he is, i'm saying we live in a world where not all actions are rational or consistent with people's long term goals. Just because a smart person mad an irrational error does not make the error impossible; remember this is something that cant be undone after the first instance.  

You missed the point about 'hiding in plain sight'.