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Great news everyone!

A few of my research colleagues held a presentation today at fc18 (http://fc18.ifca.ai/). For those unaware, this is the most prestigious cryptography conference of the year in cooperation with The International Association for Cryptologic Research (IACR). A portion of the presentation was reserved for the advancements we've made in our new Boolberry V2 research paper. It's been getting quite a bit of interest from the cryptography community and as a result has given the project massive exposure to the general academic community. Due to the amount of interest generated from the conference, we're aiming to have the paper published very soon.

Here are the slides from the conference:
docdro.id/q4GQMFV
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
I must say that was quick. Glad to have the Monero spokesperson join the thread!

He's not great with numbers if he believes 1% would be enough to fund development, it wouldn't pay the listing fee's never mind the developers.

The problem with people like him is they don't know anything about research, software development or hiring because they've never done anything in their lives but troll forums. Some of the guys I work with are $600/hr +. Given Zoidberg's experience with Cryptonote, familiarity with the codebase and competence as a developer I would be put him in the same category with respect to working on a CN project. At that time, Boolberry was trading for pennies on the dollar. At 1% the burn rate was much too high to keep active on the project and be able to keep his lights on, let alone pay for internet access to make commits. This is probably one of the reasons why he was able to be recruited by the other team to work on the Louis project so that he could earn a steady income.

I'm not standing up for his original decision to leave Boolberry, just saying that people gotta eat and that might be reason why he left the project in the first place.

Of all the people to accuse of being unable to research, it's hilarious you would pick me!  I've forgotten the floorplans of more libraries than you'll ever visit, you silly pleb. Smiley

CZ has already accepted my logic in choosing to rebase BBR on the latest Monero release rather than start over from scratch or where he left off.  So IDK why you would believe I "don't know anything about research, software development or hiring."  My input on the Rune rebranding fiasco also carried the day.

I know CZ is a great dev and have been a Wild Keccak fanboy for years.  My posts all over this forum demonstrate that is an unquestionable, well-established fact.

The problem is great devs are hyper-specialists and due to Dunning-Kruger often fail to listen to generalists like me at exactly the crucial times when they most need to defer to those with greater expertise in multidisciplinary areas like economics, linguistics, and marketing.

We all know CZ left BBR for better paying work on Louisd'or.  But nobody except me is asking what happened to that rationale for his abandoning BBR, which resulted in the dev tax and community donations being rendered essentially worthless.  He broke his social contract and the purported advantages of doing so never materialized, and outcome which externalized the costs of his choices and actions to donors and bagholders.

Bitcoin, Litecoin, and Monero all managed to have great success despite (or more probably because of) having a 0% dev tax.  Stop white knighting for CZ; he made this mess and left BBR donors+bagholders twisting in the wind.

Long ago, I offered to help improve the areas where BBR was weakest.  I was prepared to voluntarily serve on a silver platter CZ and the BBR community my incomparably complementary skill set.  But he was either too proud or too stubborn to accept a role as anything other than dictator for life, so BBR remained a stunted vanity project until he eventually left it relegated to abandonware status.

Let's all note how tacky and evasive it is for CZ to respond to my pertinent inquiry regarding the Louisd'or code with an aggressive ad-hom deflection unfairly and dishonestly referring to me as an "old opponent of BBR from Monero clan."

Here's an olive branch.  I have a designed a truly 3rd generation Cryptonote coin based on everything that has happened with BBR/XMR/etc. so far and which thus benefits from all those lessons and all that hindsight.

I'll share the whitepaper with CZ and let him be the lead dev for the project, provided he stops his suspiciously flaky on-again/off-again relationship with BBR (and Louisd'or), which only serves to string along long-suffering BBR bagholders and further cement his reputation as a competent yet inexplicably shifty developer/cryptographer.

Due to all this past drama and sketchiness, BBR will never achieve its goal of being the Litecoin to Monero.  The only viable path forward is to start over with an apology and a clean slate.  Otherwise, BBR will wind up being the Dash of the Cryptonote family and be related to 3rd or 4th place, behind Aeon, Bytecoin, and DigitalNote.
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https://btc-alpha.com/ is scam,
no support and no response to any problem.

Btc-Alpha is not a scam, Ive personally used it many times. We have to get out of this habit of calling exchanges scams just because support for them isnt lightning fast. They realistically only have probably 4 or 5 people working on tickets and i imagine they're working on them in the order they were submitted so it just might take a little longer to get to yours.
what's a scam,
deposited 100 bbr on 2/24, but today is 3/2, still not show in my balance, they have no support and never reply to me.
you told me what's a scam??
sr. member
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General Heads up! Changelly is freezing funds for users converting to Monero.

They do not deliver the funds, and require the user to follow up with the helpdesk where they later email you asking for ID for AML/KYC and still continue to not refund or deliver in any predictable schedule if at all.
sr. member
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Hm, for anybody that wants to send Pull Requests, should we all change our github upstream to https://github.com/Boolberry/boolberry.git ? instead of crypto-zoidberg's github?
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Kucoin when?=)

Now that we have provided them with this script it should be any moment. I'll let everyone know as soon as we start testing deposits and withdrawals.

In the future, when dealing with any exchanges that possess no prior knowledge of CN integration, send them this script for expediting the process. Also a link to documentation for Boolberry will be helpful: http://dbminer.info/boolberry-rpc/html/

How many are running on Ruby? Well, it is easy enough to read and translate, its just interacting with the RPC and daemon in JSON
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Here is a script that will help any RoR-based exchange integrate Boolberry into their system. It will also help those exchanges using other language frameworks to view logic needed for integration.

https://github.com/Boolberry/boolberry-exchange-script

The script only works if you operate an unsecured wallet (no authentication for interacting with the JSON RPC), and it flat out assumes that each time it loops every 120 seconds it will be precisely 1 block height higher, never the same height or never more than 1 block further ahead.  It also looks like it sleeps for 120 seconds between pushing each transaction to the exchange API? Am I seeing that right? So a block with 10 transactions would take 20 minutes to iterate through and flat out miss the past 20  minutes of blocks? Even if no transactions that block, it still sleeps for 120 seconds and would miss any faster blocks or re-process the same one if the network was slow? I'm not a ruby dev, so please someone tell me I'm insane.
sr. member
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Kucoin when?=)

Now that we have provided them with this script it should be any moment. I'll let everyone know as soon as we start testing deposits and withdrawals.

In the future, when dealing with any exchanges that possess no prior knowledge of CN integration, send them this script for expediting the process. Also a link to documentation for Boolberry will be helpful: http://dbminer.info/boolberry-rpc/html/
sr. member
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sr. member
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Here is a script that will help any RoR-based exchange integrate Boolberry into their system. It will also help those exchanges using other language frameworks to view logic needed for integration.

https://github.com/Boolberry/boolberry-exchange-script
sr. member
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Let me translate the troll post for everyone:


Hi, I'm Icebreaker. Zoidberg please don't return to work on Boolberry! I don't like competition for Monero.
 Cry Cry Cry

I must say that was quick. Glad to have the Monero spokesperson join the thread!


He's not great with numbers if he believes 1% would be enough to fund development, it wouldn't pay the listing fee's never mind the developers.

The problem with people like him is they don't know anything about research, software development or hiring because they've never done anything in their lives but troll forums. Some of the guys I work with are $600/hr +. Given Zoidberg's experience with Cryptonote, familiarity with the codebase and competence as a developer I would be put him in the same category with respect to working on a CN project. At that time, Boolberry was trading for pennies on the dollar. At 1% the burn rate was much too high to keep active on the project and be able to keep his lights on, let alone pay for internet access to make commits. This is probably one of the reasons why he was able to be recruited by the other team to work on the Louis project so that he could earn a steady income.

I'm not standing up for his original decision to leave Boolberry, just saying that people gotta eat and that might be reason why he left the project in the first place.
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Let me translate the troll post for everyone:


Hi, I'm Icebreaker. Zoidberg please don't return to work on Boolberry! I don't like competition for Monero.
 Cry Cry Cry

I must say that was quick. Glad to have the Monero spokesperson join the thread!


He's not great with numbers if he believes 1% would be enough to fund development, it wouldn't pay the listing fee's never mind the developers.
sr. member
Activity: 337
Merit: 315
Let me translate the troll post for everyone:


Hi, I'm Icebreaker. Zoidberg please don't return to work on Boolberry! I don't like competition for Monero.
 Cry Cry Cry

I must say that was quick. Glad to have the Monero spokesperson join the thread!
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Hey iCEBREAKER, how's it going ? Glad to see you here again!
Old opponents of BBR from Monero clan are always welcome!

Zoidberg
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
Hello friends!

First of all i would like to thank everyone who contributed to BBR and made possible relaunch project! Especially i would like to say thanks for commitment from hashappliance of 50kBBR, Crypjunkie of 10kBBR and donation from b4h4mu7 20kBBR and for all efforts that he put to bring this project back to the game (we really wish him success with his Dobloon project).

As i was saying earlier - buying coins and investment in the project is a kind of different things for me. Between many many many different coins, especially this days, Boolberry launch was made without any ICO, premine or instamine, absolutely transparent with only 1% of mining tax, which was obviously not enough for funding project active development. With the huge traction of crypto industry that happened in last years everything (not only dev coasts, but also marketing, exchange listing fees etc) became more expensive and at the same time more valuable. For example listing on HitBTC coast about 20BTC, which is about 150kBBR at the current rate. As we counted project funds must be at least 500kBBR which is about 5% of all coins in circulations.

We was approached by group of holders wich is represented by hashappliance and now we in process of finalizing first round of investments. These funds would allow us to dedicate ourselves to this project including both marketing and development efforts.

We really hope that community will continue to support our work with donations on public basis - with new alias and view key published to track amount of raised funds.

We was discussing some ideas of fundraising and there was proposed different ways of getting this, including hard fork with increasing mining fees up to 20% or so one, but i’m pretty sure that this is wrong way and better to go with  the way Monero do this - rising funds from community, and personally believe that community will support this as soon as they see constant active work on the project.

After we finalize agreement on initial round of investment we gonna announce here our roadmap with the plans for 2018 and deploy new website.

I personally would like to say thanks to everyone for interest, patience and support of this project despite long time of my absence!



Zoidberg


Your 1% dev tax should have been enough to continue development, but by abandoning the project you destroyed the value of not only the dev tax but also the donations to the dev fund.

In contrast, Monero's dev fund donations are worth much more than when most of them were donated.  That speaks to their competence plus wise governance, and your lack of those essential qualities.

What happened to Louisd’or?  Wasn't that supposed to support your research into making BBR proof of stake (or PoS/PoW hybrid)?


Hello!
I’m glad to announce our project, that we were working on last weeks and keep working on. This is CryptoNote-based currency with first anonymous PoS engine(that use PoW as well).
This is the part of big project (which have codename Louisd’or), that we do for my friends, so this is just technology announce and first rough implementation of CN-based PoS, and working network, this is more like proposal, so i shared this to get public review and feedback about PoS approach we gonna use.
The “Louisd’or” project itself have a wide feature list and have a lot of development ahead, so we have a great team of talented people who worked on this, and expect to release it in the middle of spring.
 
According to my experience in bitcointalk forum, here is a lot of people who like to criticize my work, especially from Monero clan, so you guys is welcome to fight!
We have about 4-5 BTC of bounties for people who gonna find bugs/flaws in design or implementation: most serious critical flaw gonna get 2 BTC, next less critical 1 BTC, next 0.5 BTC and so on.

Brief description link(mini-whitepaper): http://162.243.101.90/lui_share.pdf
Implementation: https://github.com/cryptobender/lui
Notice: Implementation does not completely reflect mini-whitepaper description, it still in development, so i often do some commits and restart test network every 2-3 days. Atm we have network that running about of couple of days and seems to be okay.

Feel free to post any questions and ideas here or to PM.

Zoidberg

I'm not mining anymore, but still hold some BBR. The long periods of silence with no releases makes me wonder what is cryptozoidberg collecting 1% of all blocks for? Not that it's a lot of money in terms of BTC, but is any work being done on the project to warrant 1% of all coins generated? I was never a fan of this donation/payment model, but I think especially lately it just looks like someone sweeping up loose change just for being (benevolent?) dictator for life.

Work is done on louis d'or. According to Zoidberg as its the same code, work on louis d'or will help BBR in the long run.

Apparently, the problem is lack of funds. Bitcrea used to work for BBR but had to stopped because of this.

Developping a coin is really expensive. THe monero core team put hundreds of bitcoin into it. But They did it from their own pocket.

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Hello friends!

First of all i would like to thank everyone who contributed to BBR and made possible relaunch project! Especially i would like to say thanks for commitment from hashappliance of 50kBBR, Crypjunkie of 10kBBR and donation from b4h4mu7 20kBBR and for all efforts that he put to bring this project back to the game (we really wish him success with his Dobloon project).

As i was saying earlier - buying coins and investment in the project is a kind of different things for me. Between many many many different coins, especially this days, Boolberry launch was made without any ICO, premine or instamine, absolutely transparent with only 1% of mining tax, which was obviously not enough for funding project active development. With the huge traction of crypto industry that happened in last years everything (not only dev coasts, but also marketing, exchange listing fees etc) became more expensive and at the same time more valuable. For example listing on HitBTC coast about 20BTC, which is about 150kBBR at the current rate. As we counted project funds must be at least 500kBBR which is about 5% of all coins in circulations.

We was approached by group of holders wich is represented by hashappliance and now we in process of finalizing first round of investments. These funds would allow us to dedicate ourselves to this project including both marketing and development efforts.

We really hope that community will continue to support our work with donations on public basis - with new alias and view key published to track amount of raised funds.

We was discussing some ideas of fundraising and there was proposed different ways of getting this, including hard fork with increasing mining fees up to 20% or so one, but i’m pretty sure that this is wrong way and better to go with  the way Monero do this - rising funds from community, and personally believe that community will support this as soon as they see constant active work on the project.

After we finalize agreement on initial round of investment we gonna announce here our roadmap with the plans for 2018 and deploy new website.

I personally would like to say thanks to everyone for interest, patience and support of this project despite long time of my absence!



Zoidberg
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I have about 20000BBR trapped in the Phoenix do not know when to get it back
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after the offline signatures implementation how close is the current Boolberry daemon to other cryptonote integrations?

I ask because every single exchange is going to have the same problems, we should just chase the exchanges that Aeon and Monero are on

What about Qryptos https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/qryptos/
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https://btc-alpha.com/ is scam,
no support and no response to any problem.

Btc-Alpha is not a scam, Ive personally used it many times. We have to get out of this habit of calling exchanges scams just because support for them isnt lightning fast. They realistically only have probably 4 or 5 people working on tickets and i imagine they're working on them in the order they were submitted so it just might take a little longer to get to yours.

BTC-Alpha got hit with a massive DDoS attack yesterday.  The exchange owner is available on telegram if you need any assistance.  I am sure they are backlogged at the moment, but they got all of my issues resolved 100%, even though it took a couple days. 

The exchange owner and operator can be reached on Telegram at: @vitaliibodnar and @eliasolo, respectively.


Patience is a virtue.  Smiley


Thanks for the update!
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Going to contact them. Smiley
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