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Bigmacduck

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Quote from: steamon on August 18, 2017, 04:25:20 PM

I also dumped my BCH straight off I believe in the Bitcoin and not in Bitcoin cash. If they can't pick a side do it simply don't join either side and just join side stocks.

These days the holdings of BCH are a good hedge against the correction in BCT. I am glad that I never sold my BCH.

25hashcoin

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Bitcoin Cash is the future of Bitcoin and crypto. There are no more questions.

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I think we will see BCH rising again, when Bitcoin is dumping. BCH is rising a little bit right now, but the real crazy moves are going on while a bitcoin dip or a downtrend.

I bought a lot of BCH at 0.06 and I am glad that ive done that. Going to hold it for a while. Waiting for the next Bitcoin doom!

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Quote from: Mhedz on August 18, 2017, 10:51:41 AM

Is bcc/bch will pump its price to the moon like btc?

I think this chance is very low for now just by looking at the numbers. Bitcoin cash or bcc/bch has lower rate compare to that of bitcoin core or bcc. That lower rate is a big difference. Another thing is that bcc has no real suppporters which will demand for it. It has demand only because they give it away to those people who have btc in their wallet and there no one afterwards.

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Is Coinbase considering Bitcoin Cash?

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Quote from: szpalata on August 20, 2017, 08:18:43 AM

Quote from: tui1974 on August 19, 2017, 03:58:41 PM

Comical how many still hold on to BCC instead of BCH. This confusion is no good.

I likewise can't phantom why people are still glorifying this Altcoin which was dead in arrival. To be honest I hate reading about them too and the calculated attempt by some people to try and compare it to Bitcoin.

I'm not sure about "glorifying" but I'm very glad to have held on to my Bitcoin Cash. It's consolidating bullishly at the highs and threatening to break above 0.2 BCH/BTC. Do I think it's a manipulated market? Absolutely. Do I think it has strong fundamentals? No! But the dogmatic "Bitcoin Cash is dead" mantra that you guys are pushing is exactly the same as the "Bitcoin is dead!" mantra the world has been repeating for years. You guys kept repeating it, so of course we contrarians are swimming in profits as the naysayers continue to complain.

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Quote from: exstasie on August 19, 2017, 02:23:03 PM

Quote from: Bigmacduck on August 19, 2017, 04:42:17 AM

Quote from: tiggytomb on August 18, 2017, 11:34:59 AM

Bitcoin isn't going anywhere, BCH will be more profitable for the miners so maybe will get a push because of this but I doubt it will hit anything above $1k.

What makes you so sure? Many of the comments here about BCH read like religious hate propaganda. How do you know that the BTC religion is any better than BCH? Do you have facts or just beliefs?

Think about it. The consensus rules underlying a cryptocurrency are what make it worth "believing" in. The BCH developers ripped out some of Bitcoin's consensus rules (re: block size) and also won't be implementing a widely supported soft fork consensus change (Segwit). So these are two aspects where it makes sense for there to be significant disagreement. The community has been arguing for years over these rules, so it's understandable that supporters of each side have dug their heels in, so to speak.

There are technical arguments to be made for small blocks vs. big blocks, and Segwit/LN vs. increasing block size. But at this point, I think most of us have heard it all.

Yes and in exchange for all that, they gave free money that's why that alt keep alive and some users they did not care about this.

aksay79

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Quote from: africa34 on August 19, 2017, 05:28:51 AM

fuck the bcc i buy it when price 0.3btc and sell it 0.1btc and now he go up i have not luck with this coin

You should play on the coin that you already understand,do not like to play on the coin you doubt,Profit always comes when you never hesitate,
You must be panicked by the circumstances

szpalata

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Quote from: tui1974 on August 19, 2017, 03:58:41 PM

Comical how many still hold on to BCC instead of BCH. This confusion is no good.

I likewise can't phantom why people are still glorifying this Altcoin which was dead in arrival. To be honest I hate reading about them too and the calculated attempt by some people to try and compare it to Bitcoin.

tui1974

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Comical how many still hold on to BCC instead of BCH. This confusion is no good.

billoggates

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Quote from: exstasie on August 18, 2017, 01:18:16 PM

Quote from: iluvpie60 on August 18, 2017, 12:10:24 PM

Quote from: iram1011 on August 18, 2017, 11:27:18 AM

Quote from: Mhedz on August 18, 2017, 10:51:41 AM

Is bcc/bch will pump its price to the moon like btc?

LIKE BTC?

BCH is not in anyway comparable to bitcoin. BCH is just another altcoin which has its own market. What all popularity it got by splitting off from Bitcoin is over. Now, some bulk holders or pump groups are pumping the coin and there is no solid reason behind the price increase. Thus, it will dump soon. Many have already forgotten about it.

As far as I am aware, and please correct me if I am wrong, but isn't really the only difference that BCH has 8MB max block size(actually it can be more if nodes/miners agree).

How exactly is it an altcoin when it does on-chain scaling? I would be interested to hear more about this as I haven't kept up on it to be honest.

I understand the majority here hates BCH, but I can't really understand why. Isn't it a good thing they split off from us and they can go away now?

It's an altcoin because it's just a hard fork that replicates the UTXO set. Most people realize by now that "on-chain scaling" includes Segwit's block size increase (and future optimizations like signature aggregation), so they realize fixes are on the way and Segwit will soon be usable.

Long term, sure, it's good if the BU crowd splits off. But if the split is significant, it could significantly hurt the combined market cap, given Metcalfe's Law.

I think a split is bad although we've seen from BTC / BCH and even ETH / Classic splits that the total market size is often larger post split than pre-split. If you hold your coins right / you're golden. Now with that said, I still think it's bad for the community and project as whole. Allow me to explain, the average user isn't trying to keep up with all this tech nonsense. Their money split in half!? OMG?! They don't get split chains and duplicate chains and exchanges and what not... we gotta be focused on simplifying things not making em more complicated.

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Quote from: 25hashcoin on August 18, 2017, 10:59:07 AM

Yes it seems as if BTC will die off and Bitcoin Cash will become the main chain/Bitcoin.

This is like buying Bitcoin for $900 again. What a steal. Gonna be BCH = $4000 in a few weeks. Getting in now is getting in on the bottom floor.

Hey, wait, can I sell BTC short?

exstasie

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Quote from: Bigmacduck on August 19, 2017, 04:42:17 AM

Quote from: tiggytomb on August 18, 2017, 11:34:59 AM

Bitcoin isn't going anywhere, BCH will be more profitable for the miners so maybe will get a push because of this but I doubt it will hit anything above $1k.

What makes you so sure? Many of the comments here about BCH read like religious hate propaganda. How do you know that the BTC religion is any better than BCH? Do you have facts or just beliefs?

Think about it. The consensus rules underlying a cryptocurrency are what make it worth "believing" in. The BCH developers ripped out some of Bitcoin's consensus rules (re: block size) and also won't be implementing a widely supported soft fork consensus change (Segwit). So these are two aspects where it makes sense for there to be significant disagreement. The community has been arguing for years over these rules, so it's understandable that supporters of each side have dug their heels in, so to speak.

There are technical arguments to be made for small blocks vs. big blocks, and Segwit/LN vs. increasing block size. But at this point, I think most of us have heard it all.

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fuck the bcc i buy it when price 0.3btc and sell it 0.1btc and now he go up i have not luck with this coin

tosmartak

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Quote from: BillyBobZorton on August 18, 2017, 10:54:36 AM

Quote from: Mhedz on August 18, 2017, 10:51:41 AM

Is bcc/bch will pump its price to the moon like btc?

It depends on for how long the pump can be sustained. There's no real demand for BCash, someone must be pumping it. That "someone" could be the usual suspects (The Roger Ver - Jihan Wu - Craig Wright connection), or it could be also a random whale group pumping it to, obviously, dump it once people that are absolutely clueless of what's going on, think that BCash is going to reach parity with the real Bitcoin.

It will be fun to watch, the manipulation is huge on any Bitcoin fork because people perceive it as "free money".

You are right but I am sure this won't keep up for long. This same thing happened the first few weeks when the fork happened and after then holders started dumping fast at the slightest chance just to make some quick gain. But we may never know. What I don't know is if this pump may have huge positive effect later on the value. I saw this on instagram where Roger ver is thinking of dumping all his bitcoins for bch. Here is the link;
https://www.instagram.com/p/BX71kXUgbyO/

xtimus

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My concern would be if BCC is too profitable, the price will be considered too high. I feel like this is a big pump and a dump is coming soon.
Holding onto both wouldn't hurt, but buying into either is a risk now.

Bigmacduck

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Quote from: steamon on August 18, 2017, 04:25:20 PM

I also dumped my BCH straight off I believe in the Bitcoin and not in Bitcoin cash. If they can't pick a side do it simply don't join either side and just join side stocks.

You might eventually regret that at some point in the future. Should the market favor BCH over BTC then holding on to both coins would have beed a good hedge. You would then monitor the combined market cap of BCH and BCT. In the investment world you are never placing all your eggs into the same basket, but you did exactly that by selling your BCH and buying more BTC.

Bigmacduck

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Quote from: iram1011 on August 18, 2017, 11:27:18 AM

Quote from: Mhedz on August 18, 2017, 10:51:41 AM

Is bcc/bch will pump its price to the moon like btc?

LIKE BTC?

BCH is not in anyway comparable to bitcoin. BCH is just another altcoin which has its own market. What all popularity it got by splitting off from Bitcoin is over. Now, some bulk holders or pump groups are pumping the coin and there is no solid reason behind the price increase. Thus, it will dump soon. Many have already forgotten about it.

That depends on the perspective. The others argue that their version of Bitcoin is following the original Satoshi vision and that the BTC version of bitcoin is actually the alternative coin and the market and miners start do realize this. That argument can be supported by the high dollar transaction volume on BCH.

And even if that high BCH trading volume is a result from hodlers dumping their BCH for Fiat or BTC, remember that for every seller there is a buyer.

Bigmacduck

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Quote from: tiggytomb on August 18, 2017, 11:34:59 AM

Bitcoin isn't going anywhere, BCH will be more profitable for the miners so maybe will get a push because of this but I doubt it will hit anything above $1k.

What makes you so sure? Many of the comments here about BCH read like religious hate propaganda. How do you know that the BTC religion is any better than BCH? Do you have facts or just beliefs?

One possible fact is that today, mining on BCH is 50% more profitable than BCT. Check on
https://cash.coin.dance/blocks
This fluctuates obviously hourly. My point is that it is not a question who is right or wrong, at the end it's decided by the market.

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Quote from: Yoandy10 on August 18, 2017, 01:04:10 PM

Quote from: iram1011 on August 18, 2017, 12:50:23 PM

Quote from: iluvpie60 on August 18, 2017, 12:10:24 PM

Quote from: iram1011 on August 18, 2017, 11:27:18 AM

Quote from: Mhedz on August 18, 2017, 10:51:41 AM

Is bcc/bch will pump its price to the moon like btc?

LIKE BTC?

BCH is not in anyway comparable to bitcoin. BCH is just another altcoin which has its own market. What all popularity it got by splitting off from Bitcoin is over. Now, some bulk holders or pump groups are pumping the coin and there is no solid reason behind the price increase. Thus, it will dump soon. Many have already forgotten about it.

As far as I am aware, and please correct me if I am wrong, but isn't really the only difference that BCH has 8MB max block size(actually it can be more if nodes/miners agree).

How exactly is it an altcoin when it does on-chain scaling? I would be interested to hear more about this as I haven't kept up on it to be honest.

I understand the majority here hates BCH, but I can't really understand why. Isn't it a good thing they split off from us and they can go away now?

Any coin which is not Bitcoin is simply Altcoin. It runs on different blockchain than that of Bitcoin and hence is different coin. The reason for hatred for BCH is because of all that fuss created by the fork was unnecessary when majority was supporting Segwit and lead to FUD and uncertainty in the market and hence a drop in price. Now most of the holders have dumped their BCH and most probably have forgotten too.

This may true that most holders dumped their BCH. However, it is making a lot of gains and seems to be a viable alternative to BTC, especially for those who cannot or will not pay $4200 for one BTC. I can see BCH gaining a lot of ground on BTC by end of year. We'll see...

You are considering a 20 days old cryptocurrency an alternative to Bitcoin?

I disagree from you that people who can't afford Bitcoin would buy BCH instead. BTC is the hottest investment today. Why would anyone needs to buy a whole Bitcoin when you can buy in Satoshis. This BCH will again be dumped whereas BTC being the number one cryptocurrency will keep on attracting investors and hence there would be an increase in price.

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