What if some one present proofs that they launched the coin as they say?
If it is credible and verifiable proof from a source entirely outside of the control or influence of those responsible for the fraud, then I will believe it.
I don't care how good they are. As long as they are their project is based on lies and fraud I'm not interested
EDIT: Also, the precise reason for forking in open source is that when the original developers get badly off track, the community can give them the boot and continue on with a new fork. That is exactly what happened here. If lies and fraud don't qualify as "badly off track" I don't know what does.
The technology will live on. The project responsible for fraud and lies should not and likely will not. They will keep at it for a while, because trying to get some value out of their 100 billion premined coins is worth a fair amount of ongoing effort. But eventually they will give up on that even.
I have an open mind. If there is proof as I described above I will evaluate it in light of the other I've evidence already seen and possibly change my conclusions.
Because the two have nothing to do with each other.
As far as the evidence shows at this point, anyone who has believed "since 2012" story has been deceived. If you enjoy being deceived, then carry on. I can only tell you that Santa Claus isn't real. If you still want to believe, believe.