Topic: BCX thinks he could attack Monero (ROFL), major wannabe (Read 5319 times)
Just be careful.
Is it possible to provide some proof of the exploit without giving away the details on how to achieve it or how to fix it?
Are you offering to compensate for such efforts? Doing this is high value labor and expense. BCX has many demands on time.Keep in mind that this is described as a CN vulnerability. And so it affects all the CN variants. BCX provided enough description that others can also find it. We should expect this to happen. BCX has honor and also well earned pride which was exploited by the moneroman88 trolling to provoke the use of the exploit through persistent goading and insults. Some others piled on because they saw it happening.
BCX has been clear enough. To ask for more it would have to be worthy of BCX's efforts, not just in compensation but in a positive outcome for the broader goals.
And so, this little experiment in increased monetary privacy continues. Its only about a US$6 million market cap in the coin so far. These are early, but contentious, days.
BCX needs to post and either acknowledge or deny the messages. The alternative is to loose all credibility.
Wow, this thread is only about two hours old, believe it or not there are a few mins per day I am not on Bitcointalk LOL...
As far as the PM's, at first (two days ago) I thought Moneroman88 was part of the Monero Team as he did indeed try to pass himself as part of the Monero Team. It wasn't until I communicated rpietila directly that I kind of, sort of think Moneroman88 may be an independent troll.
I did in fact send this idiot three PM's
The first one in response to him continually spamming Monero, he "threatened" to report me to mprep, so I said go for it.
The second one stating clearly I believe there is an exploit, which I have found since and working on in a sandbox.
The third, telling him if he is so sure I'm talking shit, lets put some BTC on it. (As you can see Moneroman88 does not have the faith in his own beliefs to back it up.)
Furthermore, I have since heard from someone that would know and is credible that this asshole stands a very strong likelihood of being one of my long time friends from "Down Under".
I can assure you, I will post more when the time is appropriate about the weakness that is inherent to XMR and its blockchain.
Like I said you *won't see anything* happening other than Monero rising in significance and price.
If I were you I would sell while you still can.
~BCX~
Is it possible to provide some proof of the exploit without giving away the details on how to achieve it or how to fix it?
Fake aminorex account? Really, where?
So much spilled popcorn. I weep for the ushers.
My words are often understood differently than they were intended, when read by persons who have education or idiolect skew to my own. I try to be precise, but that can be taxing sometimes. I suspect that NL took something I wrote differently than I intended it, and inferred from the model mismatch that it was the creation of a doppelganger, or that one of the trolls malattributed a fabricated or distorted quote, as trolls are wont to do. Alternatively he may have misspelled wachtwoord.
nevermind. thanks for the link. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/amonerorex-378590
How the hell did this empty thread by BitcoinEXpress (of all people lol) get so much attention. BitcoinEXpress just deliver or shut the hell up.
This thread is not by BitcoinEXpress ...
I meant discussion obviously. The size of this thread is one indication of how many people take this seriously.
r u sayin BCX claims r not serious? i wouldnt be sure of that- history shown otherwise evry time
~CfA~
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. Why would he make this thread otherwise? There's no money to be made making this thread. He's bluffing and I'm calling all day long and twice on Sunday.
BCX found flaws in CN previously, and described them. The Monero dev team have also found a LOT of CN flaws, and are still working on these. There is no shortage of things for them to do.
BCX likely may well be able to craft an exploit based on these flaws, whether this 'takes it down' or not would greatly depend on the response and the nature of the attack.
There are option contracts available, put and call, so there is "money to be made".
It is plainly clear by now to everyone reading this thread that the OP's intentions (and the fake aminorex account among others) are to do harm to Monero by creating emotions in others more competent. Maybe this will succeed, maybe it will not.
The folks 'believing' the OP are riding along and in on the game.
Move along, nothing to see here. The ushers will clean any spilled popcorn.
Fake aminorex account? Really, where?
if an exploit is found by someone like bcx pay him with btc for his work..this will help monero in the long run.
this forum would be better if there is something like, newbie troll, full troll, sr. troll, hero troll and legendary troll
this forum would be better if there is something like, newbie troll, full troll, sr. troll, hero troll and legendary troll
u probably arent aware that bcx is one of the largest bitcoin holders (2010 guy), i dont think he need any more btc
~CfA~
if an exploit is found by someone like bcx pay him with btc for his work..this will help monero in the long run.
this forum would be better if there is something like, newbie troll, full troll, sr. troll, hero troll and legendary troll
this forum would be better if there is something like, newbie troll, full troll, sr. troll, hero troll and legendary troll
How the hell did this empty thread by BitcoinEXpress (of all people lol) get so much attention. BitcoinEXpress just deliver or shut the hell up.
This thread is not by BitcoinEXpress ...
I meant discussion obviously. The size of this thread is one indication of how many people take this seriously.
r u sayin BCX claims r not serious? i wouldnt be sure of that- history shown otherwise evry time
~CfA~
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. Why would he make this thread otherwise? There's no money to be made making this thread. He's bluffing and I'm calling all day long and twice on Sunday.
BCX found flaws in CN previously, and described them. The Monero dev team have also found a LOT of CN flaws, and are still working on these. There is no shortage of things for them to do.
BCX likely may well be able to craft an exploit based on these flaws, whether this 'takes it down' or not would greatly depend on the response and the nature of the attack.
There are option contracts available, put and call, so there is "money to be made".
It is plainly clear by now to everyone reading this thread that the OP's intentions (and the fake aminorex account among others) are to do harm to Monero by creating emotions in others more competent. Maybe this will succeed, maybe it will not.
The folks 'believing' the OP are riding along and in on the game.
Move along, nothing to see here. The ushers will clean any spilled popcorn.
There is money to be made from disrupting Monero surely. This is however not so for the threats he's making now. If he could he would buy the put contracts and disrupt the coin. The fact that he's talking proves otherwise.
How the hell did this empty thread by BitcoinEXpress (of all people lol) get so much attention. BitcoinEXpress just deliver or shut the hell up.
This thread is not by BitcoinEXpress ...
I meant discussion obviously. The size of this thread is one indication of how many people take this seriously.
r u sayin BCX claims r not serious? i wouldnt be sure of that- history shown otherwise evry time
~CfA~
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. Why would he make this thread otherwise? There's no money to be made making this thread. He's bluffing and I'm calling all day long and twice on Sunday.
BCX found flaws in CN previously, and described them. The Monero dev team have also found a LOT of CN flaws, and are still working on these. There is no shortage of things for them to do.
BCX likely may well be able to craft an exploit based on these flaws, whether this 'takes it down' or not would greatly depend on the response and the nature of the attack.
There are option contracts available, put and call, so there is "money to be made".
It is plainly clear by now to everyone reading this thread that the OP's intentions (and the fake aminorex account among others) are to do harm to Monero by creating emotions in others more competent. Maybe this will succeed, maybe it will not.
The folks 'believing' the OP are riding along and in on the game.
Move along, nothing to see here. The ushers will clean any spilled popcorn.
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. Why would he make this thread otherwise? There's no money to be made making this thread. He's bluffing and I'm calling all day long and twice on Sunday.
im saying the exact opposite of what u say dude. i say BCX has fulfilled claims every time and this will be no other in dem case here. if this man wanna to take down munero hes gonna be taking it down.
rest assured of that, i bet my money on it.
~CfA~
Are you shorting XMR? Or how are you betting against it?
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. Why would he make this thread otherwise? There's no money to be made making this thread. He's bluffing and I'm calling all day long and twice on Sunday.
im saying the exact opposite of what u say dude. i say BCX has fulfilled claims every time and this will be no other in dem case here. if this man wanna to take down munero hes gonna be taking it down.
rest assured of that, i bet my money on it.
~CfA~
Well, at least that would mean you are putting your money where your mouth is
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. Why would he make this thread otherwise? There's no money to be made making this thread. He's bluffing and I'm calling all day long and twice on Sunday.
im saying the exact opposite of what u say dude. i say BCX has fulfilled claims every time and this will be no other in dem case here. if this man wanna to take down munero hes gonna be taking it down.
rest assured of that, i bet my money on it.
~CfA~
How the hell did this empty thread by BitcoinEXpress (of all people lol) get so much attention. BitcoinEXpress just deliver or shut the hell up.
This thread is not by BitcoinEXpress ...
I meant discussion obviously. The size of this thread is one indication of how many people take this seriously.
r u sayin BCX claims r not serious? i wouldnt be sure of that- history shown otherwise evry time
~CfA~
Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. Why would he make this thread otherwise? There's no money to be made making this thread. He's bluffing and I'm calling all day long and twice on Sunday.
How the hell did this empty thread by BitcoinEXpress (of all people lol) get so much attention. BitcoinEXpress just deliver or shut the hell up.
This thread is not by BitcoinEXpress ...
I meant discussion obviously. The size of this thread is one indication of how many people take this seriously.
r u sayin BCX claims r not serious? i wouldnt be sure of that- history shown otherwise evry time
~CfA~
How the hell did this empty thread by BitcoinEXpress (of all people lol) get so much attention. BitcoinEXpress just deliver or shut the hell up.
This thread is not by BitcoinEXpress ...
I meant discussion obviously. The size of this thread is one indication of how many people take this seriously.
How the hell did this empty thread by BitcoinEXpress (of all people lol) get so much attention. BitcoinEXpress just deliver or shut the hell up.
LOL
looks like u won the troll contest in the topic dude
~CfA~
How the hell did this empty thread by BitcoinEXpress (of all people lol) get so much attention. BitcoinEXpress just deliver or shut the hell up.
This thread is not by BitcoinEXpress ...
How the hell did this empty thread by BitcoinEXpress (of all people lol) get so much attention. BitcoinEXpress just deliver or shut the hell up.
It also has a reason why we point out its currently Alpha level software, to reach the same maturity as for example Bitcoin it will take us a while and a lot of work, that for sure.
there really is no point in making Monero look like weak alpha software. It is not weak, in fact it's very solid as it has proven for a long period of time.
the following nails what XMR really is; most certainly *not* alpha software like you suggest:
Monero is the first alt (okay some said LTC a year ago..) that functions as a hedge to Bitcoin.
[...]
This is very precious, to find an asset that has good positive EV and is a hedge. Everyone who has BTC does a pareto-improvement move by buying XMR, with 0.25%-5% of the holdings. This has nothing to do with taking a position, it is a slam dunk move if you invest professionally.
[...]
This is very precious, to find an asset that has good positive EV and is a hedge. Everyone who has BTC does a pareto-improvement move by buying XMR, with 0.25%-5% of the holdings. This has nothing to do with taking a position, it is a slam dunk move if you invest professionally.
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@rpietila, @smooth
Do you also feel this way, that there exist no weakness that can be exploited in Monero?
~BCX~
Do you also feel this way, that there exist no weakness that can be exploited in Monero?
~BCX~
May i answer that?
It has a reason we hired Peter Todd to review the source, its undocumented and badly factored atm, there are also other people reviewing everything - It would be plain arrogant to say that there may be no weaknesses, look what happened to openssl and there were tons of people and companies working on it...
It also has a reason why we point out its currently Alpha level software, to reach the same maturity as for example Bitcoin it will take us a while and a lot of work, that for sure.
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