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Topic: BCX thinks he could attack Monero (ROFL), major wannabe - page 2. (Read 5319 times)

legendary
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It's so many levels of trolling here I don't even know where to begin. Trollception!
hero member
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This thread kind of reflects thealarmingoverall spirit of the altcoin section all in one...
hero member
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this thread is hilarious the trolls/shills are calling out the other trolls and shills while pretending not be a troll/shill.


and who the hell in their right mind is still hodlin a anonymous currency thinking it's going somewhere?
sr. member
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To all the idiots saying I'm a troll, I'm both amazed and shocked by your behavior. If everyone who's more pro-Monero than yourself is a troll and this is honestly your opinion, I'm sure that you're just in for the short term and don't realize the *long-term potential* of the coin. I stand up for Monero because I know that it's THE coin with the single best future, on top of that the only one that is - as a matter of fact - challenging Bitcoin at this very moment. True Monero supporters would agree on that without a doubt.


If he has actually found an exploit of significant potential harm (extremely unlikely) I say go and post it. If it can help improve Monero even more I'm all for it. But if so privately send it to the team and don't harm XMR.


Wait a second, a few post ago you were claiming that it was impossible that bcx could do it, now you are saying maybe he can. You are one confused individual.

You can post using your main account to put your message across BCX, I've said it earlier Sir.

I firmly believe you won't and can't do anything against Monero - but for the extremely unlikely case that you do in fact have found an exploit that could potentially harm XMR - then by all means please send it to the Monero team and don't attack the network live, I'd appreciate and expect this noble act of you.

donator
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GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
If all else fails, play victim of FUD.

Bunch of Legendary fags. This is why I got out of Monero. Yah I am ok to miss the Millionaire boat. You fags can go fuck each other all day long.

To give you some input on this from the Monero core team's perspective: we try keep the SNR in the Bitcointalk ANN thread as high as possible, and #monero-dev on Freenode has a pretty high SNR as well.

We do not sanction or control any of these other threads. In due time we will likely stop posting anything on Bitcointalk related to Monero apart from announcements in the ANN thread.
sr. member
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Check your coin privilege
Looks like I gotta run to the store and get some popcorn...

Bring a pair
sr. member
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Got Crypto?
this is funny. lol
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Yep. Reverse trolling is the strategy now.

Yah the correct strategy is

* Go to every redditt thread that talks about anonymity and crap about Monero. Because you know Monero invented CryptoNote and is fair.
* Piss people off by calling them premine scam repeatdly when the whole world knew about the premine scam.
* Argue with everyone in their threads that Monero is superior.
* Impose BTC support on everyone and their brother for Monero.
* Start calling CryptoNote whitepaper as Monero whitepaper.
* Have a team of core faggots faggoting about Monero everywhere they could think of.
* Call the most competitive CN altcoin a scam and call its developer a botnet operator. Create a special thread to make sure that the one legit CN competition gets swished away with the other coin mill coins. If all else fails make sure that you invoke mining controversy because you know Monero doesnt have any mining blemishes.
* Don't even mention BBR anywhere because you know people might start looking at it as the superior technical implementation of CryptoNote probably from one of the original CN good guys who didn't want any part of anything controversial.
* Have a bunch of sock puppets trolling Poloniex 24x7 pimping monero.
* Make sure an angel investor is baptizing everyone into Monero as soon as he meets them and more importantly share it with everyone here to make sure they know of the schedule and meetings.
* Spam a lot of threads on Altcoin section because you know it is important to convert everyone into Monero.

If all else fails, play victim of FUD.

Bunch of Legendary fags. This is why I got out of Monero. Yah I am ok to miss the Millionaire boat. You fags can go fuck each other all day long.
legendary
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Monero Core Team
Yep. Reverse trolling is the strategy now.
newbie
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usually accs created with coinnames are "new accs" of actualy coin owners.

I have no idea what your source of data there is for that but in this case I can assure you there are all kind of trolls and FUDsters creating accounts with all sorts of names that have nothing to do with Monero.

We've seen the pro-Monero troll strategy before (in July I think) where people create new accounts and post in support of Monero instead of against it. They apparently are trying to do so in such an obnoxious and spamy ay that it causes a backlash against Monero. At least that is my guess, because I don't really know. (As I said, the other highly plausible explanation is mental illness.)

The sad fact is this forum site is so infested with trolls and FUDsters that you really can't believe anything people say unless you know them personally. The rest are best ignored.

+1 I suspect the reverse troll theory is the most plausible especially when BCX was targeted.

No casual Attacker could exploit Monero. We have already seen Monero's developers neatly push a fix to the likely nation state sponsored attempt at corrupting the chain.

This clearly came from sophisticated party with intimate knowledge of the monero internals, not a script kiddie attacker.  These trolls Can try and incite attacks towards XMR from Candiates who have previously tried to Damage shitcoins like auroracoin, infinitecoin etcetera but the fact is we are Dealing with a completely different beast here not a simple bitcoin copy - this is a project which has been Developed by crytographers and audited by the likes of gmaxwell and peter Todd. Lame attempts at 51% attacks or "Timewarps" will be futile here so  it is a waste of time for anyone to try and lure and attack in.

As long as we choose to support OSS privacy enhancing technology such as Monero and elect to choose GNU/Linux as our primary Desktop operating systems, escaping the Opressive Handcuffs of Microsoft Windows Vista, Apple iOS DRM infested and spyware/malware Ridden bugged OS we will make for extremely hard group to target. It really is a simple case of throwing out our Windows/ Apple Locked down proprietary, corporate controlled and easily attackable via Malware desktops, and replacing with a Free Libre Open Source Operating Software system such as  GNU/Linux 64bit or 32bit PAE kernel in conjuction with the Monero Daemon to enable financial freedom and complete privacy for all.

 
legendary
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Monero Core Team
usually accs created with coinnames are "new accs" of actualy coin owners.

I have no idea what your source of data there is for that but in this case I can assure you there are all kind of trolls and FUDsters creating accounts with all sorts of names that have nothing to do with Monero.

We've seen the pro-Monero troll strategy before (in July I think) where people create new accounts and post in support of Monero instead of against it. They apparently are trying to do so in such an obnoxious and spamy ay that it causes a backlash against Monero. At least that is my guess, because I don't really know. (As I said, the other highly plausible explanation is mental illness.)

The sad fact is this forum site is so infested with trolls and FUDsters that you really can't believe anything people say unless you know them personally. The rest are best ignored.

+1 I suspect the reverse troll theory is the most plausible especially when BCX was targeted.
legendary
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usually accs created with coinnames are "new accs" of actualy coin owners.

I have no idea what your source of data there is for that but in this case I can assure you there are all kind of trolls and FUDsters creating accounts with all sorts of names that have nothing to do with Monero.

We've seen the pro-Monero troll strategy before (in July I think) where people create new accounts and post in support of Monero instead of against it. They apparently are trying to do so in such an obnoxious and spamy ay that it causes a backlash against Monero. At least that is my guess, because I don't really know. (As I said, the other highly plausible explanation is mental illness.)

The sad fact is this forum site is so infested with trolls and FUDsters that you really can't believe anything people say unless you know them personally. The rest are best ignored.
newbie
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Man is moneroman a huge troll!

I've personally never heard of you BCX, but I find it really useful that I did find out your character here! I want to hopefully contact you in the future.
legendary
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getmonero.org
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It does not appear to have the characteristics of a scam.

There does appear to be a subset of miners with an optimized mining platform.


~BCX~
Thanks for your response.

I saw the hashrate going about 20% up and then down again some days ago. So i thought that it was either a botnet or claymore who was building a new GPU miner and he was mining on VMs. Or both. I agree that something odd is there.
I also think that there is some sort of CPU miner giving like 10-15% more than the os one...

I understand what you mean and i just hope that more optimizations will come soon as more people are getting interested on it.



legendary
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the grandpa of cryptos
usually accs created with coinnames are "new accs" of actualy coin owners.
but maybe 1 of devs got too far now with BCX so the rest of community got scared.

i DOUBT one would make account to help monero for long time just to then attack BCX as a superb long term plan. nobody could know if BCX even takes the fight.

so its a "one person got to far now we are scared" thinge imo.
newbie
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I respect you and i have noticed that when you say you can attack a coin you probably can. You said some months ago that something you tried on XMR wasnt really that big problem. Is it something new?

But seriously cant you see he is an obvious shill created to play along like he likes XMR in order to irritate others like he does right now? People from monero already said that on his threads....

Anyway, i truly believe that monero is not a scam. I am watching it from day 2. It looks like a worthy try that may fall or not. Obviously it may have a shitone of bugs that we arent aware. But the try doesnt look like a scam to me. So i would really like, if you have time, to post why you think that monero is a scam. I will sincerely think of your advice and decide. Posting two words without explanation is a little bad. Dont you think?

 


It does not appear to have the characteristics of a scam.

There does appear to be a subset of miners with an optimized mining platform.


~BCX~

False.

This was the ONLY occasion some users had a slight advantage,

https://github.com/NoodleDoodleNoodleDoodleNoodleDoodleNoo/bitmonero/commit/3cc45e9324a402aee91e2f46861b2ca393d711aa

the Monero developers quickly secured the code (as you can see above) to put everyone on the same level without optimized platform only within a month or so after launch (yes the monero core member NoodleDoodle mined a little with his optimized miner) but release the patch afterwards and sold them all already cheaply before the price was as expensive as it is today, so he hardly made a profit and everything is distributed. Kudos to them otherwise we would be stuck with crippled scamcoin bytecoins slow hash code


The big miners, who spent around quarter of a million $ on EC2 only ever had a maximum of 10x advantage  or so after that was fixed over normal miners,  not 100x as falsely told by some.

Since you are in drawing curves, also draw one for the profitability of a normal XMR miner and a 100x XMR miner... yes, very fair and unsuspicious for everyone involved.

There was likely never a 100x advantage. The 100x was the maximum advantage dga reported from start to finish, but the public miner got faster as well over the same period of time.

Nevertheless you can actually compute the potential value of it by looking at the total number of coins produced during that period. That is a maximum, and not a very good estimate because there were certainly non-advantaged miners during that period. It still isn't much.


This is correct.  I don't think we ever had more than a 10x advantage over the public one.







I speculate a sharp fall off in the future.


~BCX~

Based on What?  False Rumors of an Attack... Please  Roll Eyes
We are Not all weak hands Here you can manipulate with talk like this to Buy in Cheap. pfft..



You make this up as such weaknesses are non-existent. Nice try though.


@rpietila, @smooth

Do you also feel this way, that there exist no weakness that can be exploited in Monero?


~BCX~

HAHAHA not exploitable by you fur sure,  we know you are a mouthpiece, in cohorts with lolcust.  someone else does the dirty work and sends to you to announce  

 your limitation is Gravity well, timewarp and bots, neither of which are useful here lol because there is no KGW or 51% attack possible. Good luck because monero Whitepaper has already been Extensively reviewed by Mathematicians and audited by respected bitcoin devs gmaxwell and peter todd gmaxwell only has good things to say (check hacker news) and peter todd Is are now working with the moner o team. Quite unlike your usual shitcoin clone you try to attack only after first being notified of the weakness by the real worker (not you) and taking dry run in testnet. The attack that already recently happened was more complex and elegant than you could dream of, and it surely came from someone at least familiar with the Monero workings, which you barely seem to understand at this moment (it's nothing like bitcoin code)

 You will probably try to embed these http://nlnetlabs.nl/downloads/antivirus/antivirus/virussignatures.strings

into Monero Payment ID'S and claim you 'HACKED' MONERO because MSE is quarantining.
Until members just flag it as a False Positive and everything continues as normal.

Looks like you will have to start studying HARD then make an announcement that 'you've accepted peace' and made decision not do do anything or just slinking off into the Distance when you realise there is no normal exploit vector like with a normal calibre Shitcoin because this is Entirely new codebase actually implemented by cryptographers. And clearly not a lone coder but a team of smart individuals. The Monero team Has already fixed many major bugs in the past few months so no low Hanging fruit for you lolz.

I already know what Will happen. Everything continues as usual, If someone brings up "where is the attack BCX??' you will Say 'I never said i would specifically' So choose your words carefully so you Don't get Egg on your face, smart  Grin
legendary
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There does appear to be a subset of miners with an optimized mining platform.

For which coin is that not the case? Because I don't know of one.

There are always some miners operating more efficiently than others, and this most certainly includes Bitcoin (might be the worse than most in this regard). The nature of the arms race inherent in Satoshi's design means there will always be people ahead in such a race.
legendary
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getmonero.org
I respect you and i have noticed that when you say you can attack a coin you probably can. You said some months ago that something you tried on XMR wasnt really that big problem. Is it something new?

But seriously cant you see he is an obvious shill created to play along like he likes XMR in order to irritate others like he does right now? People from monero already said that on his threads....

Anyway, i truly believe that monero is not a scam. I am watching it from day 2. It looks like a worthy try that may fall or not. Obviously it may have a shitone of bugs that we arent aware. But the try doesnt look like a scam to me. So i would really like, if you have time, to post why you think that monero is a scam. I will sincerely think of your advice and decide. Posting two words without explanation is a little bad. Dont you think?

 
legendary
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@smooth

Do you also feel this way, that there exist no weakness that can be exploited in Monero?

What part of alpha-level software is unclear?

Moneroman88 is an obvious troll. I have no idea where he came from or what his agenda and/or mental health status might be but he certainly has nothing to do with us.

As for exploits we would obviously prefer that if you discover something you bring it to our attention so it can be corrected. If you want to attack the live network instead, we obviously can't stop you and ultimately if an exploit exists and you use it sooner or later someone else probably will so these things are really unavoidable.

So what about his other rantings, is gmaxwell working with you guys?

gmaxwell has described the cryptonote technology as interesting and basically sound (my words), but is suspicious as we all are about the state of the current code base. He has talked with us on a semiregular basis, he isn't an official part of the project (nor has anyone in a position to make such a statement claimed otherwise).

Anything Moneroman88 says, consider to be his personal opinion and his alone, assuming his mental status is stable enough for such a thing to even make sense, which I don't know to be the case. The same can be said for anyone else for that matter. There only 7 core team members who can speak on behalf of the project.  

We'd also like to take the time to introduce you to our core team (in no particular order) - tacotime, eizh, smooth, fluffypony, othe, davidlatapie, NoodleDoodle

EDIT: I'd add to that the "monero" account which is owned by the project and controlled by several of the above members.
legendary
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@smooth

Do you also feel this way, that there exist no weakness that can be exploited in Monero?

What part of alpha-level software is unclear?

Moneroman88 is an obvious troll. I have no idea where he came from or what his agenda and/or mental health status might be but he certainly has nothing to do with us.

As for exploits we would obviously prefer that if you discover something you bring it to our attention so it can be corrected. If you want to attack the live network instead, we can't stop you and ultimately if an exploit exists and you don't use it, sooner or later someone else probably will so these things are really unavoidable.
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