Topic: Begginer BTC Miner Wants Some Help! (Read 1555 times)

Go buy an S1. Is cheap, can have fun,  and you can resell it later.

True, IMO bitcoins is for hobby or extra money if you don't invest a lot.
Alt coin mining is enough profitable to spend time on?

You will not earn any respectable BTC in a low hash, budget miner. Stay in school, study hard.

Also, look into Alt coin mining.

lol, obv, u are not a miner, I am .     I look to the price Every day   
[ And i hold A"lot of cions too , for many years.!!!   ]
we are talking about a guy  mebe is willing to put 5-10 k in to bitc.
And to hold that is Not stressfull  .

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No way.. 'cos then you're actually holding coin, and you keep watching the exchange rates etc.  At least with miners that will never ROI, you know you're into the red, so you can stop worrying about it altogether

+ 1 for real. i am suprised every day people are Still asking THAT question .
Its less stressfull , and way more easy.


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I don't think so...It is better to buy bitcoin directly IMO.

Look over this thread and decide for yourself if PBMining is legit or a Ponzi scheme:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pbmining-legit-484355

IMO, they don't have any provable mining equipment so I'm of the opinion they are a scam.  You make some money initially in a few months with them, but what happens in Year 2 through 5?  Of course it's up to everyone to do their own due diligence.

Let me know if you find a crystal ball that peers into the future so you can answer that 'what if'

Overall, cloud-based hashing is a gamble as well, just generally with lower up-front costs.  I'm not too particularly interested in that market, though, so maybe check out some of the writings at http://cryptomining-blog.com/?s=cloud , they review them and update on findings fairly regularly.

I'm a newbie too and this is pretty much what everyone has told me in my previous inquiries (the ship has sailed).

What do you guys think of that cloud mining service called pbmining where you get 5 year contracts? What if the price skyrockets in the next few years... couldn't that pay off big time? Or would the increase in difficulty make the mining contract basically worthless?

You'd basically be entering the arena of high-end miners - and while some of them give positive ROI, a bunch of them are only available by pre-order and you have to trust that they won't be delivered late (with difficulty increases messing up any chance of positive ROI).. you're also taking a gamble with the difficulty in general, and of course the exchange rate.

Make sure you read the horror stories about several companies delivering miners that underperform, arrive severely damaged (dislodged coolers, dislodged components, huge dents in chassis), miss parts completely, go up in smoke (literally), and offer nothing but excuse after excuse when it comes to setting things right.

If that hasn't scared you off, look up some of the miners available (see the Hardware subsection), find their claimed (where possible, actual) hash rates, cost (including shipping, etc.), power use, time for delivery, all that.. then hit up a mining calculator (there's a thread that lists a bunch), and run a few different scenarios (difficulty increases, exchange rate if wanting to calculate with fiat), then see if it's worth the risk to you.

Chances are good that you'd be better off buying an Scrypt miner, mine some altcoins, and sell those - but even that's getting to where manufacturers are starting to flood the market, so don't take that as advice.

Is profitable if you can invest more money, like 3000 euro?

If you want to see how it is the real mining you can buy 2 GPUs and mine for some coins, exchange to BTC, then sale and cash out. Don't forget the payment for the power bill too.
If you don't like the result you will still have 2 cool GPU for the PC games, or you may sell them.

That is not the problem at all. The real problem here is bitcoin mining is not profitable now, at current difficulty.

At current prices, mining is not profitable.  You are better off buying coin.  Buy low, sell high.  The days of mining are over at this point.  Not sure if it will ever be profitable again.

You can buy 2x S1s and keep playing until the summer time with pencil mods.

As about the raspberry rigs, you re mentioning to the 1Th/s machines (S2, A1 clones, etc)?

Sorry dude, that ship has sailed.

With over $400, you can buy a single Bitcoin though,  Just hold on to it and hope for the best.

You have no chance of making any money mining Bitcoin, sorry you missed the boat.
There are other things you could do like creating services that support and promote Bitcoin.
Good Luck

U can start with cloud mining on cex.io or a 200ghs antminer

I never heard of 'raspberry pi' rigs. Mining is now in ASIC age.
With your budget better buy coins and wait for next price bubble.
Or buy some 'virtual' mining shares, like https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/havelock-bitcoin-difficulty-derivative-bdd-430137