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Topic: PBmining - legit? (Read 67922 times)

newbie
Activity: 50
Merit: 0
December 13, 2014, 04:20:25 PM
if they were legit, why would they post something called a recovery program lol.

at this point, cloud mining is really preferred on those who produce hardware of their own like bitmain. i mean look at  GAW lol.
They were recently dox'ed and claimed to have received death threats.

They probably wanted to delay any kind of investigation by Law enforcement of them and/or wanted to stop the death threats

Taking the Neo & Bee approach
full member
Activity: 186
Merit: 106
December 13, 2014, 12:25:43 PM
Now you can see It s L"legit"  Grin
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
December 12, 2014, 09:42:32 PM
if they were legit, why would they post something called a recovery program lol.

at this point, cloud mining is really preferred on those who produce hardware of their own like bitmain. i mean look at  GAW lol.
They were recently dox'ed and claimed to have received death threats.

They probably wanted to delay any kind of investigation by Law enforcement of them and/or wanted to stop the death threats
legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1007
December 12, 2014, 07:18:33 PM
Hmmm, just logged in to find a very low amount about to be paid out. Then found this thread back.
ROI'ed last week, so all the effort now for 0,01 BTC profit.

Very annoying for everyone who didn't make ROI yet. Is there any other communication from these guys besides the "oh well, we're gone" announcement?
full member
Activity: 159
Merit: 100
Well fuck you then.
December 11, 2014, 01:50:18 PM
keep in mind its not just pbmining, its also every other cloud mining possible operators out there.

just do your homework.

The very nature of this industry leaves the door wide open for customers to be taken advantage of in all kinds of ways.  At the very least, customers have been short changed by the majority of these services, including preorders on mining equipment.  The bar is set so low that someone could have easily come along when PB Mining did, create a nice looking website and attract plenty of customers.  Customers who did not demand the kind of transparency and trustworthiness that you would expect and require in more established businesses such as in banking and the stock market.  Customers who were easily hypnotized by the novelty and hype of something that is relatively new, and seemed to hold a lot of promise.

this sounds more like what BFL did as well, create something pretty, then BAM slap to the face!
full member
Activity: 151
Merit: 100
December 11, 2014, 12:11:45 PM
if they were legit, why would they post something called a recovery program lol.

at this point, cloud mining is really preferred on those who produce hardware of their own like bitmain. i mean look at  GAW lol.
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1193
December 11, 2014, 11:16:46 AM
Running the numbers, they are just too good to be true. Running miners for 5 years will cost more in electricity than they made from the contract sale. That's not even counting the cost of hardware. They'll only be able to keep paying out as long as they continue receiving new sales. Once the new sales dry up, they will fail.

Next time listen to me.
sr. member
Activity: 377
Merit: 250
December 11, 2014, 10:18:10 AM
keep in mind its not just pbmining, its also every other cloud mining possible operators out there.

just do your homework.

The very nature of this industry leaves the door wide open for customers to be taken advantage of in all kinds of ways.  At the very least, customers have been short changed by the majority of these services, including preorders on mining equipment.  The bar is set so low that someone could have easily come along when PB Mining did, create a nice looking website and attract plenty of customers.  Customers who did not demand the kind of transparency and trustworthiness that you would expect and require in more established businesses such as in banking and the stock market.  Customers who were easily hypnotized by the novelty and hype of something that is relatively new, and seemed to hold a lot of promise.
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
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December 11, 2014, 08:00:19 AM
Lots of Pbmining topics around

Because They scammed

official thread locked too
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
December 10, 2014, 07:36:08 PM
this is pretty mind blowing, since I just got digging into cloud minding on who to go with...

but wow.. seeing one exposed like this just makes me kinda sick..

keep in mind its not just pbmining, its also every other cloud mining possible operators out there.

just do your homework.
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1040
December 10, 2014, 06:17:13 PM
Jason is the only one who most certainly ROI'd.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1057
SpacePirate.io
December 10, 2014, 06:16:13 PM
Thats actually not true, there is many people that ROI'd! (specially early investors, the one with more risk)

Agreed, the early investors made some money as new investors paid off the old investors. If you were an early investor you likely got your money back and maybe a little more on top of that, but likely not too much.
legendary
Activity: 1694
Merit: 1024
December 10, 2014, 04:41:23 PM
this thread alone is a slap to the face. a bit too late on admitting there was a huge problem.

now trying to gain back whatever reputation thats left, to continue.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/recovery-program-beginning-in-january-for-pb-mining-customers-887871
I don't think Jason has much of a reputation left at this point. It's really hard to believe that the company suffered "horrible losses thanks to some very shady people with unreasonable demands." A day or two before this was posted, PB was talking about giving blackmail and threat details to law enforcement to deal with. So I guess PBMining paid off the blackmailers and people threatening them instead of truly taking it to law enforcement? There are so many questions left to be answered by Jason, and I suspect that many of the posts he has made in the past few days aren't really the truth with what's going on.

I just hope that customers get their full investments back from PBMining and learn from it. If not, I hope they begin a lawsuit suing Jason for all losses incurred, and not holding up his part of the 5 year PBMining "contract".
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
December 10, 2014, 03:35:40 PM
this thread alone is a slap to the face. a bit too late on admitting there was a huge problem.

now trying to gain back whatever reputation thats left, to continue.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/recovery-program-beginning-in-january-for-pb-mining-customers-887871
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
December 10, 2014, 12:38:20 PM
this is pretty mind blowing, since I just got digging into cloud minding on who to go with...

but wow.. seeing one exposed like this just makes me kinda sick..
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 1737
"Common rogue from Russia with a bare ass."
December 10, 2014, 09:19:23 AM
http://pbmining.ru

So it was probably the russian mafia after all.  Wink

I just hope the people who posted the personal details are happy now.  Now everyone loses.

everyone was always going to lose dumbass, that's how a ponzi works.

The longer it goes on, the more money they take in, the more people lose.



Thats actually not true, there is many people that ROI'd! (specially early investors, the one with more risk)

Yes, but that's Ponzi thinking.
Early investors such as VC's become shareholders in a legitimate venture, taking risk because the business model may work out to be flawed, but making good ROI if things turn out as predicted.
'Investors' in PB were not shareholders, they weren't even investors, they were customers that bought a product from PB which claimed to have a sustainable business model. That product's appeal was the ROI. If the product was genuine, then all investments, early or late, would carry the same risk.

"Everyone" in this case means the totality of investors: sure, by luck or judgement some people will come out in front when a Ponzi collapses.
If it's by luck then that's the definition of luck, if it's by judgement i.e. they knew it was most likely a Ponzi and played it, then they are essentially stealing by proxy from the late coming majority. And enriching a scumbag in the process.
Blaming people who hasten the end of a confidence trick for its collapse is ridiculous, unless you are saying that these schemes have some sort of legitimacy simply because they exist.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
December 10, 2014, 05:52:45 AM
http://pbmining.ru

So it was probably the russian mafia after all.  Wink

I just hope the people who posted the personal details are happy now.  Now everyone loses.

everyone was always going to lose dumbass, that's how a ponzi works.

The longer it goes on, the more money they take in, the more people lose.



Thats actually not true, there is many people that ROI'd! (specially early investors, the one with more risk)
sr. member
Activity: 980
Merit: 256
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December 10, 2014, 03:57:44 AM
http://pbmining.ru

So it was probably the russian mafia after all.  Wink

I just hope the people who posted the personal details are happy now.  Now everyone loses.

everyone was always going to lose dumbass, that's how a ponzi works.

The longer it goes on, the more money they take in, the more people lose.

sr. member
Activity: 485
Merit: 274
December 10, 2014, 03:47:31 AM
http://pbmining.ru

So it was probably the russian mafia after all.  Wink

I just hope the people who posted the personal details are happy now.  Now everyone loses.
legendary
Activity: 1284
Merit: 1001
December 10, 2014, 03:40:01 AM
Another day, another Bitcoin ponzi bites the dust. Why do you refuse to learn? Some times I get a feeling that Bitcoin is a government project created to teach naive libertarians why their police and laws are needed.
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