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January 02, 2025, 11:39:52 PM
Yes, it is true that not all gamblers win the first time they gamble because when gambling is based on luck, winning is uncertain. Those who gamble based on luck, if they win first, they appreciate gambling a lot and those who lose first may lose some balance towards gambling. However, if a beginner wins at gambling first, he will become more interested in gambling and will prepare himself for gambling later. When I first started gambling, that is, when I was a beginner, I won at gambling the first time, even though I was a beginner, I still won at sports betting because I had some experience in sports.
Maybe some people really gets their luck in their first time playing gambling while other beginners will not get the same things as them. Usually, those beginners come to casino because they are curious with gambling and they want to try how it feels. Suddenly, they gets their first winning that impress them so that can makes them think that they can lucky in other days. At that point, they must realize that their luck can not come every time they gamble so they must hold their back not to playing gambling too often. They must know how to control themselves before they playing gambling so they can think that winning in gambling will need luck and many things so they will not force themselves to keep playing gambling.
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January 02, 2025, 06:04:28 PM
Speaking from my first experience I thought gambling is a difficult activity, beginners win most times don’t come yet you keep trying with the motivation of others. Consistent win is more common for beginners and that’s why they still gamble with a different mindset, I find nothing special when it comes to beginners luck probably as time goes they’ll know gambling is always same it just depends on luck and the casino can’t control a win neither lose.
I think the idea of beginners winning too frequently in gambling especially at the early stage is a trap. We need to be wise enough to know this because I don't think this happens to every gambler. When a newbie suddenly start making money from gambling, they are always over excited and want to gamble more. Before things go far, they've lost the entire profit they made from betting on their favorite games.
Gambling is not for the weak and we should not hesitate to keep trying when we are not getting any tangible results.
It is better we take a break and learn some good skills than to keep doing what has not been bringing profits.

Yeah its a trap, the idea is to make people believe that they are winning and its so for them to earn money on the casino. That's why lots of those new people get into addiction since those things installed some questionable thoughts that they can earn passive income since they already tried to win a good profit from casino games they are playing.

Gambling is not really for weak people and also for greedy people since this attitudes will result for a money loss that's why they should come up with better idea and avoid having any excessive thoughts since this activity is easy as what they think. Patience,skills and luck is important and if they mixed that for sure they became a better gambler.
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January 02, 2025, 05:58:40 PM
Speaking from my first experience I thought gambling is a difficult activity, beginners win most times don’t come yet you keep trying with the motivation of others. Consistent win is more common for beginners and that’s why they still gamble with a different mindset, I find nothing special when it comes to beginners luck probably as time goes they’ll know gambling is always same it just depends on luck and the casino can’t control a win neither lose.
This beginner's winning and the luck is what I always ask questions about: Is it that the luck of the player works in line with them trying out something new for the first time, or does the casino always detect when someone is still new to the system? Because I don't get it why a beginner will have a higher chance of winning more often than those who have been in the system long enough and have developed a strategy to use, and yet the outcome still remains the same.
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January 02, 2025, 05:41:09 PM
Speaking from my first experience I thought gambling is a difficult activity, beginners win most times don’t come yet you keep trying with the motivation of others. Consistent win is more common for beginners and that’s why they still gamble with a different mindset, I find nothing special when it comes to beginners luck probably as time goes they’ll know gambling is always same it just depends on luck and the casino can’t control a win neither lose.
But consistent winning is not going to happen at most times. Yes, consistency is fine and as a gambler that would definitely define that you're a good gambler.

However, we don't see that often. Most gamblers aren't going to be on the winning side and that's what we're all consistent with.

As beginners find themselves to be lucky, that gives them the thought that if they continue to be that lucky, they'd win the money and make the casino bankrupt. Wishful thinking but that really happens when the moment favors us.
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January 02, 2025, 05:38:33 PM
If you're lucky enough to be on a roll at your first attempt in gambling... Take your winnings and go. It's honestly the only way to stay in the green with gambling.

If you keep making bets with large amounts you'll be a looser sooner or later.
So really, do consider what are your goals here. If you're on the position where you gambled for profit, which is a mistake to begin with but let's leave that aside for now... Then you got what you wanted. Don't waste more time and energy on gambling.

Orrrr if you have good self contro, you can just gamble with tiny amounts so you don't have to mind about not becoming a loser that much. The house edge is on the casino's side and will always keep you down if you gamble under the illusion of eternal profits.
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January 02, 2025, 05:20:29 PM
If some casino really has an algorithm that provides hidden preferences to newcomers, this will be considered fraud. Such and similar methods are very common in the field of Play-2-Pay games, but no one claims the honesty of the gameplay there. Actually, I've never won the first time in a casino. So "beginner's luck" is an abstract concept for me personally. That's why I don't really believe in playing along with beginners.  I just don't believe in the effectiveness and profitability of such a "marketing method" for casinos, which is discussed in some of the posts above.
On the other hand, I admit that in the demo or fun mode, some games can allow you to win, but not only for a beginner, but for any client in general. But that's okay, it's just a publicity stunt.

Honestly, I also have more or less the same thoughts as you in responding to this, I don't know about how the casino knows whether this is a beginner or an experienced gambler, because from another point of view, as a gambler who can be said to have enough experience, I can pretend to be a beginner by creating a new account using the personal data of someone else who has never gambled before. In my opinion, "beginner's luck" is a hereditary tradition from the gamblers themselves and has nothing to do with the casino in this case, because even many of my friends have just tried to get involved in gambling but instead of winning, they actually lose money, and that means something called "beginner's luck" is nothing more than just a joke, in the sense that it doesn't mean that when you are a beginner, you will immediately win when you first gamble.
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January 02, 2025, 04:12:59 PM
Speaking from my first experience I thought gambling is a difficult activity, beginners win most times don’t come yet you keep trying with the motivation of others. Consistent win is more common for beginners and that’s why they still gamble with a different mindset, I find nothing special when it comes to beginners luck probably as time goes they’ll know gambling is always same it just depends on luck and the casino can’t control a win neither lose.
I think the idea of beginners winning too frequently in gambling especially at the early stage is a trap. We need to be wise enough to know this because I don't think this happens to every gambler. When a newbie suddenly start making money from gambling, they are always over excited and want to gamble more. Before things go far, they've lost the entire profit they made from betting on their favorite games.
Gambling is not for the weak and we should not hesitate to keep trying when we are not getting any tangible results.
It is better we take a break and learn some good skills than to keep doing what has not been bringing profits.
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January 02, 2025, 03:53:45 AM
If some casino really has an algorithm that provides hidden preferences to newcomers, this will be considered fraud. Such and similar methods are very common in the field of Play-2-Pay games, but no one claims the honesty of the gameplay there. Actually, I've never won the first time in a casino. So "beginner's luck" is an abstract concept for me personally. That's why I don't really believe in playing along with beginners.  I just don't believe in the effectiveness and profitability of such a "marketing method" for casinos, which is discussed in some of the posts above.
On the other hand, I admit that in the demo or fun mode, some games can allow you to win, but not only for a beginner, but for any client in general. But that's okay, it's just a publicity stunt.

Are casinos really do use hidden preferences to make newcomers win? Casinos are an intermediary between gambling and game provider. As I understand casinos work in simple words, casinos place on their page game scripts that are made by providers. Which means casinos can adjust hidden preferences in their house games only, and that is not the biggest part of games that casino offer. What is the chance that newcomer will go and play casinos own dice directly after registration, instead of popular slots, blackjack or poker?
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January 02, 2025, 03:42:10 AM
If some casino really has an algorithm that provides hidden preferences to newcomers, this will be considered fraud. Such and similar methods are very common in the field of Play-2-Pay games, but no one claims the honesty of the gameplay there. Actually, I've never won the first time in a casino. So "beginner's luck" is an abstract concept for me personally. That's why I don't really believe in playing along with beginners.  I just don't believe in the effectiveness and profitability of such a "marketing method" for casinos, which is discussed in some of the posts above.
On the other hand, I admit that in the demo or fun mode, some games can allow you to win, but not only for a beginner, but for any client in general. But that's okay, it's just a publicity stunt.
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January 02, 2025, 03:00:19 AM

Well, the uncertainty of the outcome is the main attraction of gambling, it triggers curiosity, pleasure and negative emotions, but the problem here is that many gamblers are too serious in responding to the chances of winning, so that often it increases curiosity and greed which ultimately leads gamblers to a much worse situation. Gambling is indeed a probability activity as you said and that is true which means winning and losing can probably be said to be 50/50, meaning winning and losing will always be part of the game as long as you play, and that also means that gamblers should be neutral and realistic in responding to the results that will occur at the end of the game, in the sense that when you win it must be fun and when you lose it shouldn't be too much of a problem because it's part of the game.
In general, of course, any win brings positive emotions and a good mood. And a loss is the opposite. It is just important that the negative feelings in case of a loss are not too strong. And for this, in my opinion, there is an excellent option to always experience a loss with the thought that this is a game in which this time you were unlucky. But since this is a game, there will definitely be a win and the question is only how much game time and how many game actions need to be taken to win. And maybe this will even be the beginning of a well-known streak of luck. Which also happens sometimes.

Of course, however and whenever victory will always be a pleasant situation, we can never lie about the mood that we will feel at that time regardless of our purpose in gambling and for the problem of defeat, of course, as we know that most people feel disappointed and even emotional when they are in that situation, but you are right with what you said above that we can actually make ourselves not feel too disappointed when we experience defeat, namely by realizing that the risk of defeat is a part that can never be eliminated in gambling.

This is the importance of having a proper understanding of how gambling really is, because that way we will be able to control our emotions a little when we lose because of the self-acceptance that defeat is a natural thing in the game.
It would be great and correct if most novice gamblers understood and shared exactly this approach to the game in general. But I think that most of the newbies never think about such a philosophical, so to speak, approach to the game. And as a result, they can have a hard time experiencing a series of losses. But this can be avoided simply as a result of the initial approach to gambling as a paid entertainment, as an attraction.
But how to convey such thoughts to newbies in gambling is not entirely clear, and for this, an experienced player is needed who can advise them in this way.
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January 01, 2025, 06:28:55 PM
Speaking from my first experience I thought gambling is a difficult activity, beginners win most times don’t come yet you keep trying with the motivation of others. Consistent win is more common for beginners and that’s why they still gamble with a different mindset, I find nothing special when it comes to beginners luck probably as time goes they’ll know gambling is always same it just depends on luck and the casino can’t control a win neither lose.
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January 01, 2025, 06:16:29 PM
If there are 100 people that have not gambled before but about to start. If they tell them to gamble and people are seeing them while gambling. Not all of them would first win. Some people will win while some people will lose. I know someone that gambled for the first time that lost the game immediately and he told me he is no more gambling again.
That's the reality in gambling, some may lucky and win, while others have no chances of winning but lose them all. This is also a proof that luck can happen any time, not actually in the beginning. However, just because we often hear successful gambling stories at the start of their gambling career, this become a reason for some gamblers to believe that beginner's luck exists.
Not all beginners can win in the first time they gamble. But we admit that some beginners can win so that will attract them to keep playing gambling in the other days. They should know that even if they are beginners in gambling, that doesn't make them win easily because that will depend on their luck. If they don't have luck, they will not win anything and only lose their money. If they push themselves to keep playing gambling, they must be ready with the lose that can comes anytime.
Yes, it is true that not all gamblers win the first time they gamble because when gambling is based on luck, winning is uncertain. Those who gamble based on luck, if they win first, they appreciate gambling a lot and those who lose first may lose some balance towards gambling. However, if a beginner wins at gambling first, he will become more interested in gambling and will prepare himself for gambling later. When I first started gambling, that is, when I was a beginner, I won at gambling the first time, even though I was a beginner, I still won at sports betting because I had some experience in sports.
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January 01, 2025, 03:45:29 PM
When I first started gambling, I won some significant amount of money which further motivated me to continue gambling. Like any other gambler, later on I found myself losing more money than ever. Which is why I have always thought about whether beginner’s luck was real. To me, it didn’t make sense that the machine or the game knows if the player is a beginner so there’s no such thing as a beginner winning more than an experienced gambler.

But now that I thought about it, I realized that the beginner’s luck had more to do with the player itself than outside factors. As a beginner, you have no expectations. You do not know what’s possible. What can you win, what can you lose. There is no pressure of playing which is why you are just able to win. But a few rounds after that, you are already expecting to win. There is the need to perform better and get more money than the previous round. And that is the explanation for a beginner’s luck. It’s just our mindset.

If you think about this logically, there is huge incentive for casinos to run algorithms that will give new players more payouts than longer term players. Everything is interconnected these days, through a membership card (or facial recognition) and online accounts, that they may be able to change the behavior of their games if they wanted to draw a player in. They know a certain percentage of players will take the money and run, but the majority will stick around thinking that they have found a great new money making opportunity. They might get 50% win rates for the first 50 spins or 30 minutes of player, then it reverts back to a 95% RTP default but they it takes them a little while to realize they stopped winning so much, or they never realize and pay a lot more in.
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January 01, 2025, 03:27:42 PM
Is not as if the casinos have a system in place to favor beginners in other to make them feel comfortable with losing ahead, if casinos had such a system in place then there wouldn't be need for a provably fair system and casinos become total scams and will ban gambling completely.

But it is not so, the early winning has to do with the individual players because, at that early spot, your mind is not open to the diverse chances and risks in gambling so you can still make a few accurate analyses and win a few games.

Early winning is not given to all gamblers, because I can point to several casinos that I registered to over a year now and I haven't won anything, aside from my deposits I haven't withdrawn.

You made a good point here, so people are of the opinion that casinos track beginner users to favour them so they can get addicted to the game. It's actually a bayased and myopic way of thinking. They forget that it's not only the beginners that place that particular bet, it would be absurd to say that the results or outcome was changed because of the beginners. Anybody can get lucky it doesn't matter whether you are a new, Intermediate or a pro. Not everyone is going to have the same experience. There are those who had rough beginnings they started gambling and there are those that got really lucky and probably won a lot of money, It differs.

Stupid thought! How is it possible that the casino gets to know that this particular person betting is a newbie and so letting him win so he can get playing more then later lose more, its really a stupid thought if you ask me and besides like you said everyone's faith is not the same, I believe even if a gambler experience winning in his first try at the casino I believe it to be luck and nothing more because a large number of newbies also have a back story of so much torture on their first try at the casino.
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January 01, 2025, 03:20:57 PM

Well, the uncertainty of the outcome is the main attraction of gambling, it triggers curiosity, pleasure and negative emotions, but the problem here is that many gamblers are too serious in responding to the chances of winning, so that often it increases curiosity and greed which ultimately leads gamblers to a much worse situation. Gambling is indeed a probability activity as you said and that is true which means winning and losing can probably be said to be 50/50, meaning winning and losing will always be part of the game as long as you play, and that also means that gamblers should be neutral and realistic in responding to the results that will occur at the end of the game, in the sense that when you win it must be fun and when you lose it shouldn't be too much of a problem because it's part of the game.
In general, of course, any win brings positive emotions and a good mood. And a loss is the opposite. It is just important that the negative feelings in case of a loss are not too strong. And for this, in my opinion, there is an excellent option to always experience a loss with the thought that this is a game in which this time you were unlucky. But since this is a game, there will definitely be a win and the question is only how much game time and how many game actions need to be taken to win. And maybe this will even be the beginning of a well-known streak of luck. Which also happens sometimes.

"Having the mindset that when you don't win it means you're unlucky", I like that statement because overall yes winning in gambling is about luck, it's actually that simple to accept the reality of the losing situation that we experience, but what often becomes a problem is gamblers who from the start do not have a good mentality to accept defeat and in addition they bet using an amount of money that they cannot afford to lose. So it's natural that when they lose they get caught up in their emotions, therefore it is very important for a gambler to have a responsible mentality in gambling, but overall in most cases gamblers often find it difficult to maintain their awareness just because they see a chance to win, usually they are played by their own hopes.
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January 01, 2025, 02:37:30 PM
Is not as if the casinos have a system in place to favor beginners in other to make them feel comfortable with losing ahead, if casinos had such a system in place then there wouldn't be need for a provably fair system and casinos become total scams and will ban gambling completely.

But it is not so, the early winning has to do with the individual players because, at that early spot, your mind is not open to the diverse chances and risks in gambling so you can still make a few accurate analyses and win a few games.

Early winning is not given to all gamblers, because I can point to several casinos that I registered to over a year now and I haven't won anything, aside from my deposits I haven't withdrawn.

You made a good point here, so people are of the opinion that casinos track beginner users to favour them so they can get addicted to the game. It's actually a bayased and myopic way of thinking. They forget that it's not only the beginners that place that particular bet, it would be absurd to say that the results or outcome was changed because of the beginners. Anybody can get lucky it doesn't matter whether you are a new, Intermediate or a pro. Not everyone is going to have the same experience. There are those who had rough beginnings they started gambling and there are those that got really lucky and probably won a lot of money, It differs.
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January 01, 2025, 01:05:25 PM
That's the reality in gambling, some may lucky and win, while others have no chances of winning but lose them all. This is also a proof that luck can happen any time, not actually in the beginning. However, just because we often hear successful gambling stories at the start of their gambling career, this become a reason for some gamblers to believe that beginner's luck exists.
There are some persons who actually did had a very terrible gambling beginning,  they didn't get to experience the beginners luck syndrome at the beginning of their gambling  career and that doesn't mean they will continue loosing,  along the line, some later became successful gambling so it's not going to happen following same pattern for everyone,  it's only going to happen in a pattern that will probably to relatable to each individual even if in some cases there's this uniform luck for a group,  it still doesn't put out the occasional and known disparities.

Situational indeed just like what you have said, some gambler might not experience any beginners luck when they first play and use the platform but along the way chances that they'll be able to adjust and use some patterns or strategy that brings them decent outcomes will lead them to experience some earnings, though not as lucky on the beginning but it's still good when you got that chance to enjoy your profits.

As per gambling, we do have our own sentiment and experience some may enjoy their first hand experience winning decently from their first attempt to play, while other needs to keep moving forward then win after.
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January 01, 2025, 12:29:34 PM
If there are 100 people that have not gambled before but about to start. If they tell them to gamble and people are seeing them while gambling. Not all of them would first win. Some people will win while some people will lose. I know someone that gambled for the first time that lost the game immediately and he told me he is no more gambling again.
That's the reality in gambling, some may lucky and win, while others have no chances of winning but lose them all. This is also a proof that luck can happen any time, not actually in the beginning. However, just because we often hear successful gambling stories at the start of their gambling career, this become a reason for some gamblers to believe that beginner's luck exists.
Often hear this story in my local pool where they say beginners are usually luckier at the beginning, there are also those who say new accounts at new casinos are usually given high wins, but it's all a myth because the main factor in gambling is luck.

The problem I see when a newbie plays gambling for the first time is losing.
Then someone who keeps losing tries to create a new account as if they are a beginner - losing too.
So indeed the luck factor at the beginning for beginners does exist but it will not be much.
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January 01, 2025, 12:11:21 PM
This is the importance of having a proper understanding of how gambling really is, because that way we will be able to control our emotions a little when we lose because of the self-acceptance that defeat is a natural thing in the game.

But reaching those conclusions is difficult, only when you have lost a lot, I find it very difficult to control my emotions because I propose it, but suddenly the game puts us in a position where we should bet a little more and when we do and lose, that is where all the mistakes come, all the consequences of not being able to or knowing how to say that it is no longer worth it.

Sometimes I feel that I have a lot of weakness in that sense, that is why sometimes I make bets that I should not make, when I lose, I do not play anymore because I am angry with myself, because I know that it is money that I lost, I should not lose it and I should have listened to reason and not emotion.
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January 01, 2025, 11:50:55 AM
That's the reality in gambling, some may lucky and win, while others have no chances of winning but lose them all. This is also a proof that luck can happen any time, not actually in the beginning. However, just because we often hear successful gambling stories at the start of their gambling career, this become a reason for some gamblers to believe that beginner's luck exists.
There are some persons who actually did had a very terrible gambling beginning,  they didn't get to experience the beginners luck syndrome at the beginning of their gambling  career and that doesn't mean they will continue loosing,  along the line, some later became successful gambling so it's not going to happen following same pattern for everyone,  it's only going to happen in a pattern that will probably to relatable to each individual even if in some cases there's this uniform luck for a group,  it still doesn't put out the occasional and known disparities.

I even think that this beginner's luck was made possible because some casinos, physical casinos when they opened up at first they intentionally let the RTP for the casino -150% meaning that all people were experiencing a good win there for the first months and so most other people who had never gambled before were curious to try and once they tried they were winning also. After some months though when the RTP was put in place in casino favor after many customers were reached from the casino then things changed and the pattern of beginner's luck fade away. I think nowadays it is difficult to find beginner's luck as most casinos do not leave the RTP against them once they set up their places be it online or physical casino and so we don't seem this pattern a lot anymore. So it is based more on what a casino does when they start up their business rather than if a person is lucky or not lucky in their first gambling session.
You tell interesting things about RTP, but I still prefer to play gambling games like poker or sports betting. Slot games have never attracted me, but of course I would only play with a high RTP, but it seems impossible to know in advance. Generally speaking, even with a low value, there will always be players who want to play slots, even if there are low values ​​of this indicator. After all, many people always have a desire to play, no one and nothing will stop them from playing and trying their luck.
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