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Quote from: Dewi Aries on December 28, 2024, 09:46:56 AM

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On the other hand, yes, you have experienced it yourself that greed more often leads a gambler to regret than results that are in accordance with expectations, and that should be a valuable lesson for gamblers so as not to get caught in the same hole.

In fact, I see people who are too addicted to gambling never learn from the mistakes they have made.
They always lose and get stuck in the same hole, because they refuse to control themselves, don't learn from their past mistakes and only put their greed first.

They will only regret it when there is no more money to bet which then finally makes them realize that it is out of bounds.
Regrets are always behind and they become very stressed.

Beginner luck or even professional players will have just the same chances, the only difference is the control of themselves.
Beginners don't have definite control because they are still trying to explore the game and betting, whereas professional players already know what they have to do.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on December 27, 2024, 02:33:19 PM

The beginner's luck thing is another of the many stupid things that are said in gambling, and that rather consist of the fact that when someone new bets and loses, they don't give it any importance and tend not to remember it. On the other hand, when a newcomer goes, bets and wins, this attracts attention, creating the myth of beginner's luck, and every time the same thing happens again, reinforcing it.

Anyone who knows a bit about statistics knows that this is rubbish.

Lol yeah is not true but it is common to most newbies, winning in their first game that's where it came out from the beginners luck , I also experienced such back then first game didn't put much money and endup winning, not only the beginners luck , there are time when you gamble with little money and kept winning but when you go all out one usually lose it all . So there are things like this that folks do experience in gambling, but I don't think it's a fixed event.

Hahaha exactly, when you just putting small amount and you feel that you are lucky making decent run but when you already placing big amounts you'll going to notice that you are no longer winning, something that brings you to engage more and lose more instead of earning decently, though there are some who manage to experience good amount of profits from a first try then automatically withdraw their earnings those not so usual attitude towards gambling, they are wise and made a right choice when given a chance to win..

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Quote from: junder on December 28, 2024, 03:55:13 AM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on December 27, 2024, 02:17:13 PM

It seems we have to think using another perspective, everyone will definitely always like the name of victory and the majority of us do not really like the name of losing money in any scenario, and when there is an activity that provides the opportunity to win and the risk of losing, it means that besides being ready to win, we should also be ready to lose, because the result at the end of the game is only about those two, as you said, which is by doing research within ourselves.

IMO, such thinking applies to all gamblers regardless of whether you are a beginner or experienced, because in any case I think it is true that a gambler should be much more ready to accept defeat than victory.

Beginners who are said to be lucky can get a win I also thought like that, because some of my friends who did not know gambling at all did their initial gambling and managed to get a win this did not happen just once but repeatedly with different people, even so I am not sure that all beginners can get the same results in their initial gambling.

Everyone who will gamble is expected to be ready to lose, last night I made a bet with a fairly large capital of around $ 200 and managed to get a profit of $ 300 so the total I had was $ 500 but because I was not satisfied doing it I continued it with the final result of drawing an amount of $ 350, maybe if it continues it will all run out.

Gambling is seen to win at first, but if you gamble for a long time, loss is certain. If you get greedy while gambling and you are not satisfied with the small profit then you will not be able to get your main deposit back later. Everything must be lost. Gambling sites will lure you in different ways and you will be emotional in different ways and keep depositing again and again and it is normal that all gamblers gradually get addicted to gambling and destroy their financial condition without knowing it. I myself was addicted to gambling and can't live without gambling, recently after receiving a big bonus I withdrew them and deleted the 2FA of the gambling site account so that I can't go back there.

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Quote from: junder on December 28, 2024, 03:55:13 AM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on December 27, 2024, 02:17:13 PM

It seems we have to think using another perspective, everyone will definitely always like the name of victory and the majority of us do not really like the name of losing money in any scenario, and when there is an activity that provides the opportunity to win and the risk of losing, it means that besides being ready to win, we should also be ready to lose, because the result at the end of the game is only about those two, as you said, which is by doing research within ourselves.

IMO, such thinking applies to all gamblers regardless of whether you are a beginner or experienced, because in any case I think it is true that a gambler should be much more ready to accept defeat than victory.

Beginners who are said to be lucky can get a win I also thought like that, because some of my friends who did not know gambling at all did their initial gambling and managed to get a win this did not happen just once but repeatedly with different people, even so I am not sure that all beginners can get the same results in their initial gambling.

Everyone who will gamble is expected to be ready to lose, last night I made a bet with a fairly large capital of around $ 200 and managed to get a profit of $ 300 so the total I had was $ 500 but because I was not satisfied doing it I continued it with the final result of drawing an amount of $ 350, maybe if it continues it will all run out.

Basically everyone has the same chance in gambling to be able to win but what makes the difference here in my opinion is in terms of time, meaning regardless of who you are or even if you are just trying to gamble for the first time but if at that time luck really comes then you will also win any amount, and it can also be said that even if you have been gambling for a long time but you may not be as lucky as beginners, meaning that the problem of results in gambling really depends on how lucky you are when playing.

On the other hand, yes, you have experienced it yourself that greed more often leads a gambler to regret than results that are in accordance with expectations, and that should be a valuable lesson for gamblers so as not to get caught in the same hole.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on December 27, 2024, 02:17:13 PM

It seems we have to think using another perspective, everyone will definitely always like the name of victory and the majority of us do not really like the name of losing money in any scenario, and when there is an activity that provides the opportunity to win and the risk of losing, it means that besides being ready to win, we should also be ready to lose, because the result at the end of the game is only about those two, as you said, which is by doing research within ourselves.

IMO, such thinking applies to all gamblers regardless of whether you are a beginner or experienced, because in any case I think it is true that a gambler should be much more ready to accept defeat than victory.

Beginners who are said to be lucky can get a win I also thought like that, because some of my friends who did not know gambling at all did their initial gambling and managed to get a win this did not happen just once but repeatedly with different people, even so I am not sure that all beginners can get the same results in their initial gambling.

Everyone who will gamble is expected to be ready to lose, last night I made a bet with a fairly large capital of around $ 200 and managed to get a profit of $ 300 so the total I had was $ 500 but because I was not satisfied doing it I continued it with the final result of drawing an amount of $ 350, maybe if it continues it will all run out.

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Quote from: Outhue on December 27, 2024, 05:54:03 AM

... I remember a starter who was pressure to gamble, his mother was sick and the only thing stopping the treatment is money so he gambled and won, I like the fact that he stopped gambling after and he claimed he stopped because he never liked gambling, but when it comes to saving his mother's life he took the risk, so for him, his experience is different.

He is not just a lucky person but brave enough to take risks. Because in the case he loses, he is not just killing his mother but himself as well. I don't think this is a great move...

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It is very easy for you to allow your mindset to play trick on you, better have understanding of what gambling is all about, instead of just following your mind, gambling is very risky, even a beginner should always have this in mind.

Many gamblers still think that all the words that come out of the mouths of influencers are true. They believe that gambling can be a solution to their money problems, but deep inside, this might bring them disaster if not controlled. So I agree that they should never be stupid to gamble but rather be responsible and see the risk of doing this.

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Quote from: Cryptoprincess101 on December 27, 2024, 02:46:51 PM

You see that person that gambled and won to save his mother's life and after which he stopped gambling, he will definitely become successful in life because for someone to be that disciplined even after seeing the beauty side of what he preached against, he definitely can't allow the sweeter side of things deceive him because it takes someone who is so disciplined to quit gambling after getting your first win, most people will eventually continue gambling until they encounter the ugly side of it. Gambling is not bad if you follow it with good approach and never allow your feelings to control how you go about it. Be very intentional so that you don't get to regret after your actions.

This sounds so funny attributing a one time even to a life success, i mean, one will not succeed in life only because they made a decision one time that salvaged a situation, life success has got many factors tied around it and cannot be seen that myopically. I understand that singular act has made you see this person to be an epitome of discipline but that isn't all that is needed to succeed in life so that wasn't a sure bet he or she was going to succeed or is the person completely discipline, they may have their own area of indiscipline which they may be battling with outside gambling.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on December 27, 2024, 05:33:56 PM

Quote from: fruktik on December 26, 2024, 01:33:49 AM

Quote from: nelson4lov on December 25, 2024, 05:31:15 PM

It's called "beginners luck" for a reason.
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Quote from: Accardo on December 26, 2024, 01:45:47 AM

It's one of the casinos strategies of keeping new players to stay longer in the game. If a new gambler tries to wager and doesn't win in a session the person will easily stop or quit gambling. But the early wins reassures the player that they could do more in future hence feel welcomed in the gaming world, however the whole concepts is now being abused by old gamblers who desperately need a win, that could be the reason why a times some genuine new players don't get such wins anymore.

Because the casino would mistake them for the users who create multiple new accounts for the purpose of beginners luck.

Yes, it could. Even though this is just an unproven theory it has some sense in it but I reckon not all — probably just in casino games but sports betting (afaik) is outside the control of bookmarkers. I mean why would they want to alter the results of global sport events and skew it in favor of just because of one player!

My theory is similar to yours, I dont think the bookmakers are going to do that.
I think thats just conspiracy thinking really.

We have to ask the question "dies every new player experience beginners luck?"
I would be going with the answer - No

I would like to compare it to when I first started playing pool, the first night
I won almost all games I played, the second night I lost almost all games...

I say beginners coincidence

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Quote from: fruktik on December 26, 2024, 01:33:49 AM

Quote from: nelson4lov on December 25, 2024, 05:31:15 PM

It's called "beginners luck" for a reason.
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Yes, I understand you perfectly. I had this happen to me once, but it doesn't mean anything at all. I won't convince myself that this has some kind of pattern. I don't want to believe in something like this. Why? I am one of those people who look at many things skeptically. You should only trust real facts. In this case, the statistics are too meager. There are isolated cases and that's it. Without an evidence base, you can write anything here.

Well, you're not wrong there. At the end of the day, everyone is entitled to their own opinions and it's really good you have yours. Mine is based off of my experience as I've experienced it in gambling and also in trading.

Quote from: Accardo on December 26, 2024, 01:45:47 AM

It's one of the casinos strategies of keeping new players to stay longer in the game. If a new gambler tries to wager and doesn't win in a session the person will easily stop or quit gambling. But the early wins reassures the player that they could do more in future hence feel welcomed in the gaming world, however the whole concepts is now being abused by old gamblers who desperately need a win, that could be the reason why a times some genuine new players don't get such wins anymore.

Because the casino would mistake them for the users who create multiple new accounts for the purpose of beginners luck.

Yes, it could. Even though this is just an unproven theory it has some sense in it but I reckon not all — probably just in casino games but sports betting (afaik) is outside the control of bookmarkers. I mean why would they want to alter the results of global sport events and skew it in favor of just because of one player!

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on December 27, 2024, 02:33:19 PM

The beginner's luck thing is another of the many stupid things that are said in gambling, and that rather consist of the fact that when someone new bets and loses, they don't give it any importance and tend not to remember it. On the other hand, when a newcomer goes, bets and wins, this attracts attention, creating the myth of beginner's luck, and every time the same thing happens again, reinforcing it.

Anyone who knows a bit about statistics knows that this is rubbish.

Lol yeah is not true but it is common to most newbies, winning in their first game that's where it came out from the beginners luck , I also experienced such back then first game didn't put much money and endup winning, not only the beginners luck , there are time when you gamble with little money and kept winning but when you go all out one usually lose it all . So there are things like this that folks do experience in gambling, but I don't think it's a fixed event.

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Quote from: Outhue on December 27, 2024, 05:54:03 AM

I won't judge, since experience will never be the same, but I remember a starter who was pressure to gamble, his mother was sick and the only thing stopping the treatment is money so he gambled and won, I like the fact that he stopped gambling after and he claimed he stopped because he never liked gambling, but when it comes to saving his mother's life he took the risk, so for him, his experience is different.

It is very easy for you to allow your mindset to play trick on you, better have understanding of what gambling is all about, instead of just following your mind, gambling is very risky, even a beginner should always have this in mind.

You see that person that gambled and won to save his mother's life and after which he stopped gambling, he will definitely become successful in life because for someone to be that disciplined even after seeing the beauty side of what he preached against, he definitely can't allow the sweeter side of things deceive him because it takes someone who is so disciplined to quit gambling after getting your first win, most people will eventually continue gambling until they encounter the ugly side of it. Gambling is not bad if you follow it with good approach and never allow your feelings to control how you go about it. Be very intentional so that you don't get to regret after your actions.

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The beginner's luck thing is another of the many stupid things that are said in gambling, and that rather consist of the fact that when someone new bets and loses, they don't give it any importance and tend not to remember it. On the other hand, when a newcomer goes, bets and wins, this attracts attention, creating the myth of beginner's luck, and every time the same thing happens again, reinforcing it.

Anyone who knows a bit about statistics knows that this is rubbish.

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Quote from: junder on December 27, 2024, 05:06:34 AM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on December 26, 2024, 11:28:25 AM

I think that in my opinion as a gambler we should be more prepared for defeat than victory, because in any case in gambling the dealer always wins which means as we know that defeat occurs much more often than victory and that has been proven, so when we have a strong mentality to accept defeat then I think emotions will not be involved there, and this applies to all gamblers including beginners or those who already have high flying hours, because for the matter of results it does not see whether you are a beginner or not.

It should be when we are going to gamble then we must be prepared for defeat or loss of money because that is something that is certain to happen. Doing research on yourself must be done, don't let us gamble but we ourselves are not ready to lose the money that is bet, and usually people who are not ready to lose this are those who gamble with the aim of making money.

Indeed, it is not only for those who are specifically targeted but for beginners or those who have been gambling for a long time they need to pay attention to things like this so that unwanted things do not happen such as big losses and others.

It seems we have to think using another perspective, everyone will definitely always like the name of victory and the majority of us do not really like the name of losing money in any scenario, and when there is an activity that provides the opportunity to win and the risk of losing, it means that besides being ready to win, we should also be ready to lose, because the result at the end of the game is only about those two, as you said, which is by doing research within ourselves.

IMO, such thinking applies to all gamblers regardless of whether you are a beginner or experienced, because in any case I think it is true that a gambler should be much more ready to accept defeat than victory.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on December 19, 2024, 05:16:25 AM

When I first started gambling, I won some significant amount of money which further motivated me to continue gambling. Like any other gambler, later on I found myself losing more money than ever. Which is why I have always thought about whether beginner’s luck was real. To me, it didn’t make sense that the machine or the game knows if the player is a beginner so there’s no such thing as a beginner winning more than an experienced gambler.

But now that I thought about it, I realized that the beginner’s luck had more to do with the player itself than outside factors. As a beginner, you have no expectations. You do not know what’s possible. What can you win, what can you lose. There is no pressure of playing which is why you are just able to win. But a few rounds after that, you are already expecting to win. There is the need to perform better and get more money than the previous round. And that is the explanation for a beginner’s luck. It’s just our mindset.

I won't judge, since experience will never be the same, but I remember a starter who was pressure to gamble, his mother was sick and the only thing stopping the treatment is money so he gambled and won, I like the fact that he stopped gambling after and he claimed he stopped because he never liked gambling, but when it comes to saving his mother's life he took the risk, so for him, his experience is different.

It is very easy for you to allow your mindset to play trick on you, better have understanding of what gambling is all about, instead of just following your mind, gambling is very risky, even a beginner should always have this in mind.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on December 26, 2024, 04:17:00 AM

Quote from: Accardo on December 26, 2024, 01:45:47 AM

It's one of the casinos strategies of keeping new players to stay longer in the game. If a new gambler tries to wager and doesn't win in a session the person will easily stop or quit gambling.

The thread is already long but I think I need to post this again. You people should not think all beginners would win money while gambling at the first time. There are beginners that have bad experience when they first gambled. I have friends like that. A friend that does not like to gamble but followed us to gamble one day and he lost money right from the moment he started to gamble. He said that day that he will no longer gamble anymore. A beginner can either win or lose when he started to gamble.

This is the truth in reality. Beginners can be lucky to win or unlucky at their first tries. My brother came to see me, and he show me casino ive never heard of. We decided to play the cashrabit game in it and then i lost all my money. It was my brothers first time to gamble, and he lost as well, but when my girlfriend came, she decided to do hers willingly without any of us. Funny enough she screamed because she won when she tried hers. What am saying is no difference from what you have said. Although i tend to share a personal experience so that others can see that gambling is fully relying on luck. If a first-time gambler wins, then he is lucky, but another first-time gambler elsewhere has lost too.

No one tend to share stories of a first-time gambler who lost but when they win the board will be full of it.

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Quote from: eisen33 on December 27, 2024, 05:27:22 AM

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I agree with you. I think that many people have the feeling that beginners are lucky because beginners unlike mature gamblers are not yet tempted to win and at the first opportunity they take the money won. More experienced players in most cases after winning try to increase the winnings, which of course manages not everyone. Everyone is equally lucky just newcomers have a slightly different perception of winning.

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Quote from: vs2014 on December 27, 2024, 03:58:12 AM

There are some online gambling in my country where you can win a few times if you make an account and bet first. Because of which my friends almost create new accounts and try to win bets. However, this technique may not be found in casinos if the casino had such a system, a fair system would not be required and it would be recorded by the scam. But winning a few bets at the very beginning is a different matter. Although most of us people believe that winning in this gambling bet is purely luck so whether the first bet or the last bet wins everything is played by gamblers luck.

I have not had such experience, the first bets were with varying success, everything that I won in the first bet and lost in the second, so I do not share the opinion that beginners are lucky in gambling. I have tried many different approaches and in my case I can say that in the long run I lose more than I win, I thought so, gambling is not easy, there are always some unexpected results that spoil my bet, or maybe I am not such a good player.

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Quote from: Rampagoe004 on December 27, 2024, 02:05:48 AM

Quote from: hedgeh0g on December 26, 2024, 12:38:02 PM

Indeed, those who have been playing for a long time or often simply get used to losing more often and pay less attention to it, while winnings cover only part of these expenses, and it is incredibly difficult to catch a really big win. Beginners win even a little and can be happy about it, and those who are experienced will only be happy for them, everyone will have the feeling that beginners are lucky. But I have been convinced more than once that big wins at the beginning can then give several times more to this or another casino, because a player accustomed to winning will think that he will win again, but this will not happen as often.

Yes, players who have been playing for a long time and often play are used to losing so that every once in a while they win, they don't care how many wins they get apart from losing. When you first become a member, it feels wonderful to be greeted with a win twice in a row, it feels like a lot and very lucky.
This happens if Pay attention, it's not beginners or those who often play who are lucky, just look at how the dealer works, don't choose, it's just beginners who are lucky with small capital, occasionally try it again with large capital, are beginners still lucky too.

When beginners win from gambling, they will think that it is easier to playing gambling and not takes too long to win the money. But if they think like that, they must change their mindset immediately because gambling will takes their money soon. Beginners lucky may only exist for some time and will not stay too long so when they can win from gambling, they must prepare to stop gambling. Otherwise, they will lose all of the money without win more so it is difficult have more winning. If they can not hold themselves from keep playing gambling, they will see they slowly change and become addicted to gambling. So there will be no luck for them as they only lose their money.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on December 26, 2024, 11:28:25 AM

I think that in my opinion as a gambler we should be more prepared for defeat than victory, because in any case in gambling the dealer always wins which means as we know that defeat occurs much more often than victory and that has been proven, so when we have a strong mentality to accept defeat then I think emotions will not be involved there, and this applies to all gamblers including beginners or those who already have high flying hours, because for the matter of results it does not see whether you are a beginner or not.

It should be when we are going to gamble then we must be prepared for defeat or loss of money because that is something that is certain to happen. Doing research on yourself must be done, don't let us gamble but we ourselves are not ready to lose the money that is bet, and usually people who are not ready to lose this are those who gamble with the aim of making money.

Indeed, it is not only for those who are specifically targeted but for beginners or those who have been gambling for a long time they need to pay attention to things like this so that unwanted things do not happen such as big losses and others.

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Quote from: Japinat on December 26, 2024, 07:08:11 AM

Quote from: bakasabo on December 26, 2024, 06:00:37 AM

I also dont believe much in beginners luck in gambling.

You’re on the other side, huh? Lol.

Honestly, what got me into gambling was that same thing, it made me believe gambling was easy. When I won, I’d call it easy money. But over time, I realized it wasn’t as easy as it seemed, and the house edge eventually caught up with me. The reality is, we lose in the long run because of that.

The good part is, I’ve grown more mature about it. That’s what really matters to me now, I don’t lose a lot of money anymore, and I’ve learned to enjoy gambling even when I lose sometimes. I’d say that’s a pretty positive experience for me overall.

In a post above delfastTions has used right words - good marketing. I was also a victim of it. My first deposit into a slot machine, my first experience (that ended with negatively) started from people cheering me with you should try it, everyone wins, beginners often win. With time, I resigned myself with losing (spending money on gambling). I am ok with the rules play>lose>return. Probably because I dont spend much on it.

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