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Quote from: Akbarkoe on December 21, 2024, 02:21:25 PM

I hesitate to say beginner's luck here, if you look at it from the same angle then when the first time you get a win will it be said to be luck? without us seeing the size of the win?
Will getting 2x the capital be called luck? This is not specific, because the description of a beginner can be said that he has 1, 2 or 3 gambling that has been done before even though he lost and if we say that he at the time of the 4th session gets a win it will be called luck? So there is a clearer concept, because some people who have played the game can still be considered beginners.

I'm more interested in luck the first time I play.

If you aren't seeing yourself as an experienced or let's say professional gambler, then the possibility is that you are still in the beginner's phase. You can be lucky and at the same time, you can be unlucky and end up as a loser. It all depends on how the gambler sees himself.

The important thing here is, you should be lucky when gambling aside that you should also be familiar of your bets. That two should always come along so that there is higher chances for a sure win.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on December 22, 2024, 12:41:49 PM

Regarding your status in gambling such as whether you are a beginner or not, the point is as I said before above that there is no such thing as beginners who are always much luckier than seniors, casinos will not think about that, the point is whoever you are in the end you will only win when you are lucky and the bigger win in the long run belongs to the dealer.

Yes, that happens a lot. At first I wasn't so lucky, my luck was very occasional, when I decided to play there were always factors that distracted me, I had to do a lot of things, I was at university, work, everything was hard, but when I was ready to play it was good for me because I thought about other things, but I haven't won much to win, neither at that time nor now , I only play with little money.

So far I can only say that luck is relative, if you are at the right time or with the right bet then you win.

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Quote from: junder on December 22, 2024, 07:03:37 AM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on December 21, 2024, 04:31:31 PM

Yes, for all types of games that are categorized as gambling, I understand what you said about how easy it is to win a lot at certain times, but I think it can happen anytime and not just when you are a beginner, meaning you are still possible to be in that situation even though you already have high flying hours in gambling, and it also does not mean that when you are a beginner you will always be lucky.

Because rationally the dealer will not see whether you are a beginner or a senior, the results are determined by how lucky you are when playing and not because you are a beginner, I think that makes sense, but I also agree with your last statement.

Actually, luck is not known when this luck will be on our side or happen to us, and winning cannot be guaranteed either if beginners are usually more dominant with luck because in my opinion there is nothing certain which will get lucky more often if only comparing beginners and those who are experienced.

of course the dealer will not care about our status whether we are still beginners or experienced, the dealer will only arrange a way for himself to always get profit, and in my opinion by occasionally giving victory to the player is one way or strategy of the dealer to make players keep gambling in his casino because he thinks it is easy to win.

Of course, because after all luck is something natural or pure without knowing when it will come, logically if luck could be known or even controlled then surely everyone would be rich in an instant, lol but that's bullshit, that's why gambling is always recommended to be done with great care and limits, because what is feared is that at that time you are far from luck, and this is also one of the reasons why emotions really should not be involved in gambling activities, the point is winning and losing are nothing more than opportunities and possibilities.

Regarding your status in gambling such as whether you are a beginner or not, the point is as I said before above that there is no such thing as beginners who are always much luckier than seniors, casinos will not think about that, the point is whoever you are in the end you will only win when you are lucky and the bigger win in the long run belongs to the dealer.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on December 19, 2024, 05:43:29 AM

If there are 100 people that have not gambled before but about to start. If they tell them to gamble and people are seeing them while gambling. Not all of them would first win. Some people will win while some people will lose. I know someone that gambled for the first time that lost the game immediately and he told me he is no more gambling again.

You are right about that, not everyone can have the same experience, what works for you can't work for someone else. I remember how a friend of mine won up to 250 thousand naira on his first trial in a casino game, he wasn't expecting to be that easy. His stake was about 2 thousand naira, after winning such a huge amount of money from a little stake he decided to keep pushing his luck to see if he can get lucky with it. Unfortunately he lost everything on his second trial and after that he has been incurring a lot of losses. Whether you are a beginner or intermediate player you must learn to do it moderately otherwise you'll end up ruining your finances.

Most beginners still find the strength to take the first winnings, although for them it is a very unexpected event. Experienced gamblers very often do not take the winnings, because they are used to playing gambling until the last (until the money runs out). I sometimes have to fight myself to take the winnings and leave the casino. Unfortunately not always able to do this and I often have to leave the casino with empty pockets and in a depressed mood.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on December 19, 2024, 05:43:29 AM

If there are 100 people that have not gambled before but about to start. If they tell them to gamble and people are seeing them while gambling. Not all of them would first win. Some people will win while some people will lose. I know someone that gambled for the first time that lost the game immediately and he told me he is no more gambling again.

You are right about that, not everyone can have the same experience, what works for you can't work for someone else. I remember how a friend of mine won up to 250 thousand naira on his first trial in a casino game, he wasn't expecting to be that easy. His stake was about 2 thousand naira, after winning such a huge amount of money from a little stake he decided to keep pushing his luck to see if he can get lucky with it. Unfortunately he lost everything on his second trial and after that he has been incurring a lot of losses. Whether you are a beginner or intermediate player you must learn to do it moderately otherwise you'll end up ruining your finances.

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When you gamble with the expectation of winning, you will feel like you are losing. When you have no expectations in gambling, you will not worry about losing or how much you are losing. A beginner, because he has no experience, does not have much expectation or the expectation is not very big. Therefore, even if he wins a small amount, he feels satisfied and keeps talking about winning. But an experienced person sets a specific goal for gambling and keeps talking about winning. Compared to a beginner, an experienced gambler has more temptation and a greater hunger for winning, which is why he ignores small wins and keeps talking about losses. The hunger for winning is what makes the difference between an experienced gambler and a beginner.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on December 21, 2024, 04:31:31 PM

Yes, for all types of games that are categorized as gambling, I understand what you said about how easy it is to win a lot at certain times, but I think it can happen anytime and not just when you are a beginner, meaning you are still possible to be in that situation even though you already have high flying hours in gambling, and it also does not mean that when you are a beginner you will always be lucky.

Because rationally the dealer will not see whether you are a beginner or a senior, the results are determined by how lucky you are when playing and not because you are a beginner, I think that makes sense, but I also agree with your last statement.

Actually, luck is not known when this luck will be on our side or happen to us, and winning cannot be guaranteed either if beginners are usually more dominant with luck because in my opinion there is nothing certain which will get lucky more often if only comparing beginners and those who are experienced.

of course the dealer will not care about our status whether we are still beginners or experienced, the dealer will only arrange a way for himself to always get profit, and in my opinion by occasionally giving victory to the player is one way or strategy of the dealer to make players keep gambling in his casino because he thinks it is easy to win.

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Quote from: Odohu on December 21, 2024, 01:10:34 PM

Quote from: Smartprofit on December 21, 2024, 12:46:04 PM

If you are a beginner and are ready to play roulette once (and never play again), then you have a great winning strategy.

You buy two dozen chips and cover 20 different numbers on the table (20 bets). With a probability of 20/37 (i.e. 54 percent) you will win. In this case, you will get 35 chips (and lose only 19 chips).

You can make not 20 bets on numbers, but 30 bets. This will increase the probability of winning even more (up to 81 percent). In this case, you will get 35 chips and lose, respectively, 29 chips.

This is why the opinion “Beginners are always lucky” is justified.

This is no perculiar to roulette but many casino games. My first or first set if bets in both casinos and sports betting were very successful and at those times I felt it were very easy to make fortune from gambling. I don't know why casinos are designed that way but that is the fact and many people tend to be complacent at this early gambling stage where everything is easy and less stressful. It is after some time that the real real deal sets in and it only takes patience to continue with gambling from this point onward.

This is a feature of human psychological perception. A person rejoices in his victories (winnings in online casinos, profits in trading, etc.).

At the same time, the size of the win is not important for positive feelings (the fact of the occurrence of this event is important). The human brain is not designed to correctly assess probabilities (the mathematical theory of probability is not directly built into the human brain).

In the situation under consideration, a beginner can win a small cash bet with a high probability.

However, despite the small win, this will make him very happy. He will emotionally tell other players (old-timers) about this and this will further strengthen their opinion that "beginners are always lucky."

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The first time I ventured into sports betting, I was bankrolled by someone much older than me and I snagged a moderate win. What followed was a string of losses that saw almost 80% of the total money won going back to the bookmarker.

This is why I believe beginners luck is a thing. Might not be for everybody but it definitely exists.

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Quote from: Akbarkoe on December 21, 2024, 02:21:25 PM

I hesitate to say beginner's luck here, if you look at it from the same angle then when the first time you get a win will it be said to be luck? without us seeing the size of the win?
Will getting 2x the capital be called luck? This is not specific, because the description of a beginner can be said that he has 1, 2 or 3 gambling that has been done before even though he lost and if we say that he at the time of the 4th session gets a win it will be called luck? So there is a clearer concept, because some people who have played the game can still be considered beginners.

I'm more interested in luck the first time I play.

I don't think size matters as long as it's a win. In gambling, the goal is to win regardless of anything (size / luck / odds). So yes, getting 2x capital back can be counted as luck too.

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Quote from: Odohu on December 21, 2024, 01:10:34 PM

Quote from: Smartprofit on December 21, 2024, 12:46:04 PM

If you are a beginner and are ready to play roulette once (and never play again), then you have a great winning strategy.

You buy two dozen chips and cover 20 different numbers on the table (20 bets). With a probability of 20/37 (i.e. 54 percent) you will win. In this case, you will get 35 chips (and lose only 19 chips).

You can make not 20 bets on numbers, but 30 bets. This will increase the probability of winning even more (up to 81 percent). In this case, you will get 35 chips and lose, respectively, 29 chips.

This is why the opinion “Beginners are always lucky” is justified.

This is no perculiar to roulette but many casino games. My first or first set if bets in both casinos and sports betting were very successful and at those times I felt it were very easy to make fortune from gambling. I don't know why casinos are designed that way but that is the fact and many people tend to be complacent at this early gambling stage where everything is easy and less stressful. It is after some time that the real real deal sets in and it only takes patience to continue with gambling from this point onward.

Yes, for all types of games that are categorized as gambling, I understand what you said about how easy it is to win a lot at certain times, but I think it can happen anytime and not just when you are a beginner, meaning you are still possible to be in that situation even though you already have high flying hours in gambling, and it also does not mean that when you are a beginner you will always be lucky.

Because rationally the dealer will not see whether you are a beginner or a senior, the results are determined by how lucky you are when playing and not because you are a beginner, I think that makes sense, but I also agree with your last statement.

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I hesitate to say beginner's luck here, if you look at it from the same angle then when the first time you get a win will it be said to be luck? without us seeing the size of the win?
Will getting 2x the capital be called luck? This is not specific, because the description of a beginner can be said that he has 1, 2 or 3 gambling that has been done before even though he lost and if we say that he at the time of the 4th session gets a win it will be called luck? So there is a clearer concept, because some people who have played the game can still be considered beginners.

I'm more interested in luck the first time I play.

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Quote from: Odohu on December 21, 2024, 01:10:34 PM

This is no perculiar to roulette but many casino games. My first or first set if bets in both casinos and sports betting were very successful and at those times I felt it were very easy to make fortune from gambling. I don't know why casinos are designed that way but that is the fact and many people tend to be complacent at this early gambling stage where everything is easy and less stressful. It is after some time that the real real deal sets in and it only takes patience to continue with gambling from this point onward.

Every Casino online or offline is designed in a way to encourage a new member/ user to bet more. They generally give you the satisfaction that as a new one in this gambling industry you get to win big. Mind me, it only works for anyone betting a significant amount which is greater than $100. I have tried it and it did work but the winning amount will not be a big amount.

It will instigate a cycle wherein you as in a user will continue to play unless you have lost everything that you bet. The next stage will be for you as in the user to chase the loss, which will end up with the same result. This is an ongoing cycle where you win once in a while but you lose more while trying to get the lost money back.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on December 21, 2024, 12:46:04 PM

If you are a beginner and are ready to play roulette once (and never play again), then you have a great winning strategy.

You buy two dozen chips and cover 20 different numbers on the table (20 bets). With a probability of 20/37 (i.e. 54 percent) you will win. In this case, you will get 35 chips (and lose only 19 chips).

You can make not 20 bets on numbers, but 30 bets. This will increase the probability of winning even more (up to 81 percent). In this case, you will get 35 chips and lose, respectively, 29 chips.

This is why the opinion “Beginners are always lucky” is justified.

This is no perculiar to roulette but many casino games. My first or first set if bets in both casinos and sports betting were very successful and at those times I felt it were very easy to make fortune from gambling. I don't know why casinos are designed that way but that is the fact and many people tend to be complacent at this early gambling stage where everything is easy and less stressful. It is after some time that the real real deal sets in and it only takes patience to continue with gambling from this point onward.

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If you are a beginner and are ready to play roulette once (and never play again), then you have a great winning strategy.

You buy two dozen chips and cover 20 different numbers on the table (20 bets). With a probability of 20/37 (i.e. 54 percent) you will win. In this case, you will get 35 chips (and lose only 19 chips).

You can make not 20 bets on numbers, but 30 bets. This will increase the probability of winning even more (up to 81 percent). In this case, you will get 35 chips and lose, respectively, 29 chips.

This is why the opinion “Beginners are always lucky” is justified.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on December 19, 2024, 05:16:25 AM

But now that I thought about it, I realized that the beginner’s luck had more to do with the player itself than outside factors. As a beginner, you have no expectations. You do not know what’s possible. What can you win, what can you lose. There is no pressure of playing which is why you are just able to win. But a few rounds after that, you are already expecting to win. There is the need to perform better and get more money than the previous round. And that is the explanation for a beginner’s luck. It’s just our mindset.

Exactly! You just analyzed what could've been responsible for that luck – no pressure of expectation. That pressure thing can easily mess one's mindset. It's just like trying to catch a butterfly. You can't achieve it if you're going to put pressure on chasing it. The butterfly will zigzag its way around and far away from you. But when relax, the butterfly can easily dash into one's net. I guess it's a life principle that works when it comes to taking pressure off whatever we do. Don't exert much energy on stuff and you will surprisingly find them fall into place. Gambling, that depends on luck, follows that principle.

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I'm sure most gamblers had the same experience when they were beginners. Beginners luck is real and it can happen to anyone, this can give you a sense of motivation that can make you feel like you can always get it right. Gambling is a game of luck but you need to understand that you can't keep pushing your luck because you cannot always get it right. Casino games no patterns or strategies unlike sports betting, this is what makes these types of games challenging. To all those going through these winning phase as beginners, take advantage of your wins and don't get too confident cause you can lose at anytime.

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 21, 2024, 03:24:32 AM

Beginners luck don't last and shouldn't be something newbies should depend on....

Well, there's a reason why it’s called beginner’s luck, that is only experienced if you’re a beginner.

If you keep gambling consistently and still get lucky, it’s no longer considered beginner’s luck. It all falls under the "luck" aspect of gambling, which is unpredictable, unlike the house edge, which is always consistent.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on December 19, 2024, 05:16:25 AM

When I first started gambling, I won some significant amount of money which further motivated me to continue gambling. Like any other gambler, later on I found myself losing more money than ever. Which is why I have always thought about whether beginner’s luck was real. To me, it didn’t make sense that the machine or the game knows if the player is a beginner so there’s no such thing as a beginner winning more than an experienced gambler.

But now that I thought about it, I realized that the beginner’s luck had more to do with the player itself than outside factors. As a beginner, you have no expectations. You do not know what’s possible. What can you win, what can you lose. There is no pressure of playing which is why you are just able to win. But a few rounds after that, you are already expecting to win. There is the need to perform better and get more money than the previous round. And that is the explanation for a beginner’s luck. It’s just our mindset.

Sorry but I will have to disagree wit you, a beginner can have expectations, know what winning and losing is and expect to win even in his or her very first game.
I am saying this because I've been there myself, having followed a gambler for a while as a teenager, seen him win and seen him loose, seen his reactions on both circumstances and I myself understanding the satisfaction that comes with winning in gambling even while I was not a gambler, had this feeling of winning other than loosing the very first day I decided to gamble.

I understand the context you are coming from though, but I am just trying to make you understand that your context doesn't play out for every new gambler, people get into gambling under different conditions and circumstances which affects their mindset right before their first game, this have nothing to do with beginners luck as this is a separate discussion altogether.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on December 19, 2024, 05:24:41 PM

Quote from: kotajikikox on December 19, 2024, 05:16:25 AM

When I first started gambling, I won some significant amount of money which further motivated me to continue gambling. Like any other gambler, later on I found myself losing more money than ever.

The beginning is always sweeter but as you go deeper you'll definitely know what it's made of, most times the first timers luck usually make one feel so unique but it's all a bait to keep it coming but as you explore one or two times you will be rest assured with the results you'll achieve and of course it'll be an eye opener that gambling isn't for making money but for fun.

Yes, the beginning is certainly sweet for everyone. When we first started gambling, we had a great feeling. At first, I was watching my bets again and again and started having fun, then gradually I learned and understood everything and was able to control my emotions. From the beginning, I thought that gambling was for entertainment, not for making money. I never considered making money from gambling, I always considered this gambling as a means of entertainment. Today I gamble happily and am not addicted because I used to think of gambling as a means of entertainment.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on December 20, 2024, 10:21:54 PM

Quote from: I_Anime on December 20, 2024, 02:41:26 PM

You have a good point I also experienced the beginners luck back then , and you where then I had no expectation , so I just booked the game with a little amount of money and I endup doubling it , the money was something I could lose and won't feel a dime , but after that I did t try it a again till I encounter a certain web where you can earn extra cryptocurrency and can also gamble with them , and I was winning till I got greedy and lose everything and also endup emptying my wallet that same moment, I think it boils than to our expectations still .

Exactly what happened to me. I get into gambling not thinking how much I could earn and when I started doubling my money, tripling it even the happiness was unexplainable and I was excited and thrilled to continue. Of course like almost everyone, greed started to take over and I started to bet bigger and bigger amounts expecting bigger winnings as well but of course it did not happen and I ended up losing all the money I won and the money I started with. It did make me think whether I only had luck in the beginning.

I guess that happen to many people out there when they are new in gambling. Maybe if we don't think about doubling our money and just want to spend our time in gambling, the luck will come to us and give us the chance to win. But that still not guarantee to be happened as we don't know when the luck will come. If we don't have limitation for playing gambling and only want to chase the win, we may lose big money without winning.

But if we win, we may forget the limitation because we think that we still have luck to win for some more rounds. That happen to many gamblers so we must realize and strict to our rules so we don't regret.

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