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February 21, 2018, 05:38:40 PM
#55

6 - Cryptos are the way to make money and be successful without having to put effort into it.


Everyone of us need work hard to achieve being rich and in crypto we cannot reach our goal by doing nothing.Being successful is by full effort ,search for eveything to become rich someday.
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February 21, 2018, 05:25:22 PM
#54
Debt is not always bad, debt can make you make more money by borrowing and investing. This is normally called leverage and is a tool that all the companies out there use.
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February 21, 2018, 05:08:36 PM
#53
1 - Millionaires are greedy, that is why they become millionaires.
I don't agree on this, millionaires are hardworking even they are on bed they keep on thinking about ideas on how they will grow their businesses and investment. They might be greedy but they are working on it with their full potential and effort.

4 - Debt is always bad.
It will pull you down so better to stay away from asking people to borrow money. I can't give any other points for the remaining ones but we are living in a world that is unfair so in able for someone to get rich and live prosperously, you need to deal with challenges and risks.
As i oppose in the same thing too about millionaires are greedy which we cant really generalize such stuff because some of them wont really reach that state if they didnt make a hardwork. We might see do achieve this on a fast way but some them goes it gradually which isnt right to generalize that they are all greedy.All people do have that greed feeling when it comes to money but the success that they had reach is really worth it for the hard work that they have done.
They are thinking about the profit all the time as that's how their life goes on. But when we say or we do generalize that they are greedy, I don't agree with it. Greed is attached to the human nature but we can't actually say it to those people who are rich now and went through a lot of ups and down.
I agree on this one because we dont even know on the trials that they overcome before they do able to become millionaires.Being having a lots of money do always correspond on the perseverance into an individual.If we do talk about the world isnt fair then it depends among to our targets or goals in life and to those millionaires out there they are doing the best as they can why they do accumulate lots of money.They have really the capability into things because they have the money to spend on.
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February 21, 2018, 04:26:57 PM
#52
In order to be rich, one should love money  Smiley
IMHO, this is wrong. Money is important as it gives you an idea on how wealthy you are but loving money? It will cause evil things on your mind, I believe in the verse on the bible that it is the root of all evil when you love money.
Some people think "money makes people bad" or "money is the source of all world's evil", but these are the believes that prevent them from having this money.
But it's happening, I would even believe with those people who are working hard that are inspired to feed their family and it makes them to have money.
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February 21, 2018, 02:49:22 PM
#51
In order to be rich, one should love money  Smiley Some people think "money makes people bad" or "money is the source of all world's evil", but these are the believes that prevent them from having this money. I personally believe that the guarantee for financially secured life is an easy attitude to money and correct money management.

I would underline this point. Most important of all is correct money management. Unfortunately, the hodl mentality neglects money management. If you want to stay wealthy you must learn how to manage money properly.
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February 21, 2018, 12:44:18 PM
#50
1 - Millionaires are greedy, that is why they become millionaires.
I don't agree on this, millionaires are hardworking even they are on bed they keep on thinking about ideas on how they will grow their businesses and investment. They might be greedy but they are working on it with their full potential and effort.

4 - Debt is always bad.
It will pull you down so better to stay away from asking people to borrow money. I can't give any other points for the remaining ones but we are living in a world that is unfair so in able for someone to get rich and live prosperously, you need to deal with challenges and risks.
As i oppose in the same thing too about millionaires are greedy which we cant really generalize such stuff because some of them wont really reach that state if they didnt make a hardwork. We might see do achieve this on a fast way but some them goes it gradually which isnt right to generalize that they are all greedy.All people do have that greed feeling when it comes to money but the success that they had reach is really worth it for the hard work that they have done.
They are thinking about the profit all the time as that's how their life goes on. But when we say or we do generalize that they are greedy, I don't agree with it. Greed is attached to the human nature but we can't actually say it to those people who are rich now and went through a lot of ups and down.
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February 21, 2018, 12:25:13 PM
#49
indeed those things were makes sense but regardless other number from these list i was interested to number 6 and 7 that crypto is one of the best way to make money and believe in bitcoin could makes people rich so this is possible to be done even though not happened instantly but joining in crypto world is the right decission
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February 21, 2018, 11:51:18 AM
#48
You can get rich, that can happen to someone even by even lottery, luck etc. But if you are not a such person who can be millionaire, then you are very unlikely to stay wealthy. It is same in crypto, you can't buy a good brain with money  Smiley
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February 21, 2018, 11:46:22 AM
#47
Number 5 is the one that I somewhat agree in this topic. In order to survive and profit money, you have to be innovative and unique. This is called your unique selling proposition. If your USP is interesting, then the chances of earning money would be higher.
To be able to earn money, you have to work hard for it, in terms that you have to make a new idea or strategy on how to earn it, uniquely. If you will work differently with other, for good reasons you will earn big, because you will be the only one good or i guess best at that craft or passion that you are going to enter whether you're gonna want number 5 to happen.
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February 21, 2018, 11:36:25 AM
#46

4 - Debt is always bad.

Debt is not always bad. For example if there were no mortgages, people would rent till they were into their 50's and only buy at that point. Debt can be good if it can purchase you a business or asset whose returns are greater than the interest on the loan. But once you've bought your asset, you need to overpay that debt as fast as possible, because only when the liability is gone can you really own the asset outright.

Nope, houses would simply be much cheaper because people would only be able to spend what they have.

It's wishful thinking that the capitalist economy would survive without debt. A world without debt is socialism. (im not saying that's bad either). But the truth is the economy needs to grow or it will die and debt plays a crucial role to that. The world needs debt to grow.
Not always debt is bad, because the world needs debt to keep growing and floating. Even the state itself owes to other countries, to be more developed and developed.
There is no harm in you doing debt as long as you have a plan in the future to be able to make more money from the money you borrow.
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February 21, 2018, 10:19:25 AM
#45
The belief about money and wealth depends on the individual. All of the mentioned beliefs could be applicable to one but not everyone or vice versa. It's just that you only have to apply what's applicable to you and if you fail, make sure you learned something from it and use it as an advantage to gain profit in your next move. Do your own research and study on how to become successful in your own definition of success.
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February 21, 2018, 10:11:22 AM
#44
7 - To become rich I just have to believe in Bitcoin because many people have become rich doing that.
I'll disagree on this, you can't become rich if you "just" have to believe in bitcoin. Believing with bitcoin is necessary and needed for investors but you can't yourself if you are only a believer, you have to become an investor so that those you are hearing about others becoming rich in bitcoin can also happen to you.
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February 21, 2018, 10:04:52 AM
#43
Everyones hasn diferent beliefs about money and wealth. See for example 35 different ways of thinking about it here:
https://daringtolivefully.com/powerful-beliefs-about-money

One famous author, not my favourite, yet an influential one is Robert Kyosaki. In his book poor dad, rich dad, he examines two different beliefs and states that those believes will shape your success.

What of these do you agree with? What other beliefs do you have about money?

1 - Millionaires are greedy, that is why they become millionaires.
2 - Company managers just want to use the workers to make themselves rich and others poor.
3 - Having money is a question of luck, if not of "gods grace".
4 - Debt is always bad.
5 - To make money, you just need to have a great idea nobody thought off.
6 - Cryptos are the way to make money and be successful without having to put effort into it.
7 - To become rich I just have to believe in Bitcoin because many people have become rich doing that.
8 - To become rich I just have to be more clever and streetwise than everyone around to get my share of the cake.

Your turn to think ...

(EDIT: These are NOT my beliefs, at least not necessarily, is just a list to think. Is not the list by Robert K. either.)

My friend got recruited for some sort of cult that worshiped this book. It sounds interesting minus joining the cult, think I'll put it next on my reading list!

Please don't!!
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February 21, 2018, 10:01:42 AM
#42
Everyones hasn diferent beliefs about money and wealth. See for example 35 different ways of thinking about it here:
https://daringtolivefully.com/powerful-beliefs-about-money

One famous author, not my favourite, yet an influential one is Robert Kyosaki. In his book poor dad, rich dad, he examines two different beliefs and states that those believes will shape your success.

What of these do you agree with? What other beliefs do you have about money?

1 - Millionaires are greedy, that is why they become millionaires.
2 - Company managers just want to use the workers to make themselves rich and others poor.
3 - Having money is a question of luck, if not of "gods grace".
4 - Debt is always bad.
5 - To make money, you just need to have a great idea nobody thought off.
6 - Cryptos are the way to make money and be successful without having to put effort into it.
7 - To become rich I just have to believe in Bitcoin because many people have become rich doing that.
8 - To become rich I just have to be more clever and streetwise than everyone around to get my share of the cake.

Your turn to think ...

(EDIT: These are NOT my beliefs, at least not necessarily, is just a list to think. Is not the list by Robert K. either.)

First, I believe the book's proper title is Rich Dad, Poor Dad. Beyond that, the author is a bit hackey for my tastes. His advice is overly simplistic and just generally not very good or insightful. He starts with a good premise - that financial education is a worthy goal - but doesn't instill any particularly useful education or methods of thinking about wealth. Further, the book isn't very well sourced, and some critics have noted that it's extremely unlikely that some of the scenarios described in the book ever actually happened.

Agreed. I think this guy has made a fortune and a name by teaching (mostly US people) just the most basic notions about money that they should have been taught at school.

Thanks for the correction.


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February 21, 2018, 09:51:52 AM
#41
In order to be rich, one should love money  Smiley Some people think "money makes people bad" or "money is the source of all world's evil", but these are the believes that prevent them from having this money. I personally believe that the guarantee for financially secured life is an easy attitude to money and correct money management.
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February 21, 2018, 09:45:31 AM
#40
Too much money makes people too greedy, some of those are the owners of the company who only think of themselves without giving their employees proper compensation because they only want htier business to make profit. That's why there are so much people who are not happy with their work but need to work for their families needs.

Yes, that's true rich person uses poor people without getting any incentives,gifts and bonuses instead they try to mock those people for about being poor. I don't get it why they intend to be the richest, well infact my father once told me that we can't bring money when we die, why they are so much greedy that in return money just can't bring real happiness.
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February 21, 2018, 08:41:01 AM
#39
Everyones hasn diferent beliefs about money and wealth. See for example 35 different ways of thinking about it here:
https://daringtolivefully.com/powerful-beliefs-about-money

One famous author, not my favourite, yet an influential one is Robert Kyosaki. In his book poor dad, rich dad, he examines two different beliefs and states that those believes will shape your success.

What of these do you agree with? What other beliefs do you have about money?

1 - Millionaires are greedy, that is why they become millionaires.

1 - This is a sophism. It states that millionaires are greedy as a fact, even though it's just an assertion. And based on that flawed premise it concludes that this is the reason they became millionaires. I think there are two questions that are better to be asked to find out the answer behind this belief. The first one is "Are millionaires greedy"? I don't think has an evident answer. Some millionaires are greedy, but not all of them. This is a hasty generalization. And the second question to be asked is "Do greediness is what makes you rich"? I think the answer is a definitely no. There are other attributes that allow you to become rich, but greediness is not one of them.

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2 - Company managers just want to use the workers to make themselves rich and others poor.

2 - This belief stems from the Marxist view of the world that sees waged labor as a form of slavery and economy as a zero-sum game. But we all know this view is incorrect, because in a company nobody is forcing you to work. If that's the case, you should call the police because it's against the law (at least in the Western world). You choose to work for a company in order to receive money that allows you to buy stuff from other people.

And economy is not a zero-sum game. If we make an exchange and I give you money and you give me an apple, we are both in a better position that before the exchange, because I want the apple more that I want the money and you want the money more than you want the apple. If that would not have been the case, we wouldn't have made the exchange in the first place.

On a free market, you cannot "make" somebody else poor. This is the natural state in which we are born. You can only make somebody else rich, buy providing goods and services. And the more satisfied your clients are, the more profit you will make. So your wealth depends on the level of satisfaction of your clients.

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3 - Having money is a question of luck, if not of "gods grace".

3 - How do you receive money? In a free-market economy, by convincing others to hand it to you. How can you convince others to hand you money? Well, in exchange for something they wish more than the money they are giving you. So you can acquire money by satisfying the needs of your fellow men.


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4 - Debt is always bad.

4 - Debt is bad only if it's taken for consumption. If it's taken for investments and production, then it is good, because it's the fundamental way in which the economy grows. You wouldn't be able to produce new stuff if somebody else wouldn't save and hand you over their savings in order to use them to build something. And nobody will hand you something for free, so you will have to pay an interest. And this is debt.

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5 - To make money, you just need to have a great idea nobody thought off.

5 - There are tons of people with really good and unique ideas that are poor. The implementation is the one that matters. Getting the idea turned into something that people will give money for, this is the secret of success. And it's a hell of a task to accomplish, because there are a ton of moving parts, from handling employees, making sure you have clients, navigating the bureaucracy of the government and keeping up with the development done in your field. Those who succeed are the one who can take an idea and stick with it until it succeeds.

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6 - Cryptos are the way to make money and be successful without having to put effort into it.

6 - Crypto can be a way to make money, but you still have to put a lot of effort into it. You have to read a lot, on how to securely store your crypto, how to access it, how to transact it, what coin has the best grow potential etc. Just because it't not office hours you are pouring in doesn't mean you are not putting a lot of effort

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7 - To become rich I just have to believe in Bitcoin because many people have become rich doing that.

7 - Bitcoin it's not some god send stuff that will make everybody rich. Yes, some people became rich due to bitcoin, but that doesn't mean that it can't get to zero if some fatal flaw is discovered or if somebody can break the encryption behind bitcoin. It has no other use case than as money, so it's value can rich zero. Gold and other physical currencies will always have value at least as an industrial raw material.


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8 - To become rich I just have to be more clever and streetwise than everyone around to get my share of the cake.

8 - This assumes that the cake has a fixed dimension. But as I said at point 2, economy it's not a zero-sum game. If that would have been the case, then we will still be in caves fighting over the same woods to make fire.


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Your turn to think ...

(EDIT: These are NOT my beliefs, at least not necessarily, is just a list to think. Is not the list by Robert K. either.)

My beliefs are as follows:
1) Cryptocurrencies can become the next general medium of exchange that would allow people to transact across borders without a problem.
2) Governments will try to ban it because they will lose control over inflation and inflation is one of their biggest source of revenue and power based on redistribution
3) I don't know if bitcoin will be the most successful cryptocurrency that will exist, but based on all the informations I have I think it's in the best position at the moment for the medium term (5-10 years).

Sorry for the long post.
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February 21, 2018, 08:28:23 AM
#38
When I have a lot money. I want to stay what I am right now, I mean nothing will change in my attitude still humble and always humble. Maybe wealthy but low profile. I want to enjoy life and do what I want to do, financial freedom.
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February 21, 2018, 08:26:54 AM
#37
Everyones hasn diferent beliefs about money and wealth. See for example 35 different ways of thinking about it here:
https://daringtolivefully.com/powerful-beliefs-about-money

One famous author, not my favourite, yet an influential one is Robert Kyosaki. In his book poor dad, rich dad, he examines two different beliefs and states that those believes will shape your success.

What of these do you agree with? What other beliefs do you have about money?

1 - Millionaires are greedy, that is why they become millionaires.
2 - Company managers just want to use the workers to make themselves rich and others poor.
3 - Having money is a question of luck, if not of "gods grace".
4 - Debt is always bad.
5 - To make money, you just need to have a great idea nobody thought off.
6 - Cryptos are the way to make money and be successful without having to put effort into it.
7 - To become rich I just have to believe in Bitcoin because many people have become rich doing that.
8 - To become rich I just have to be more clever and streetwise than everyone around to get my share of the cake.

Your turn to think ...

(EDIT: These are NOT my beliefs, at least not necessarily, is just a list to think. Is not the list by Robert K. either.)

Doesn't matter how much you try there will alwaysbbe exceptions, in small on big numbers. We all have some beliefs but truth is that we can't live " normal" life without money, to pay for bills, have computers, cars, travel, what ever, if that is all normal you can't have it if you don't have a lot of money for better experience.
People who don't have money thinks that its easier to live with money, and mostly is, but having money brings other troubles too.
Wealth is everywhere around us, but distribution is the ones that is wrong. Blockchain can do a lot about it, more fair wealth distribution is what we all need to live in more peaceful world.
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February 21, 2018, 08:08:15 AM
#36
Belief can be called a person's belief, if we believe in working, then God will begin to give us what we want like earn money. From this job income, if we are good at saving sure the wealth will come. But wealth, in my opinion, is a useful science because a science will not crack with age and will not be difficult to carry anywhere.
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