Berlin: at least nine dead after truck crashes into Christmas market - page 2.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on December 23, 2016, 06:11:30 PM

....I know that if your asylum application is pending or rejected, you should be kept under surveillance in a locked centre and not be allowed to wander freely.

Sure.

And then if you don't have papers, if you cannot show your background and that you are a good person, you don't get any asylum or refugee status.

NOTE, the above I wrote because we are having to react to Muslims abusing and taking advantage of policies of humane compassion.

Apparently, not in their direction. Not if you want your country safe.

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Quote from: kodoll on December 23, 2016, 01:39:33 PM

That's the problem. You need to shoot the boat in EU territorial waters and then refugees will not. All crimes committed solely because of the fact that there is no proper punishment. The violence in this case is justified.

I think that's what Australia does, but it may be ineffective. From what I know many illegal immigrants (aka the "refugees") especially from Somalia would sink their boats on purpose as soon as they see the coast guard, leaving the coast guard no choice but to rescue them (and later provide a shelter etc) or let them drown/swim to the shore on their own. So it's more complicated than just not letting them in.

On top of that there are some legit refugees among them (ie oppressed Christian minorities from islamic countries etc.) whose lives are under real threat and those probably should be given some sort of asylum.

I don't know what's the plausible solution to the problem ('kill them all with fire' doesn't count as such), but I know that if your asylum application is pending or rejected, you should be kept under surveillance in a locked centre and not be allowed to wander freely.

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Quote from: kodoll on December 23, 2016, 01:39:33 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on December 23, 2016, 12:19:44 PM

^^^ If you are a "refugee", or act as one, then it is extremely easy to gain entry to the European Union. There is no vetting at all. Just need to pay a small amount to the people smugglers in Tunisia and Libya, who will put you in a fishing boat destined towards the EU.

That's the problem. You need to shoot the boat in EU territorial waters and then refugees will not. All crimes committed solely because of the fact that there is no proper punishment. The violence in this case is justified.

Are you saying that the migrant boats should be sunk by the coalition navy?! I like that idea! it will keep them from trying and smugglers from smuggling.

The idea is good but it is not feasible. Unfortunately in the modern world is ruled by a false democratic principles. Muslim freaks destroying the state, and they can not shoot because they are unarmed. Would be better if they had weapons.So much for democracy!

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Quote from: kodoll on December 23, 2016, 01:39:33 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on December 23, 2016, 12:19:44 PM

^^^ If you are a "refugee", or act as one, then it is extremely easy to gain entry to the European Union. There is no vetting at all. Just need to pay a small amount to the people smugglers in Tunisia and Libya, who will put you in a fishing boat destined towards the EU.

That's the problem. You need to shoot the boat in EU territorial waters and then refugees will not. All crimes committed solely because of the fact that there is no proper punishment. The violence in this case is justified.

Are you saying that the migrant boats should be sunk by the coalition navy?! I like that idea! it will keep them from trying and smugglers from smuggling.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 23, 2016, 12:19:44 PM

^^^ If you are a "refugee", or act as one, then it is extremely easy to gain entry to the European Union. There is no vetting at all. Just need to pay a small amount to the people smugglers in Tunisia and Libya, who will put you in a fishing boat destined towards the EU.

That's the problem. You need to shoot the boat in EU territorial waters and then refugees will not. All crimes committed solely because of the fact that there is no proper punishment. The violence in this case is justified.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on December 19, 2016, 04:01:58 PM

Yet to be confirmed whether it was an accident or deliberate Nice-style attack by the 'religion of peace'.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/19/berlin-truck-crashes-into-christmas-market
https://www.rt.com/news/370827-berlin-christmas-market-truck/

A truck has ploughed into a Christmas market in western Berlin killing nine and injuring several people, according to police.
The incident happened in one of Berlin’s largest Christmas markets, located in the western Charlottenburg district. It is also close to Berlin’s key shopping mile, Kurfuerstendamm, and a famous tourist site, Memorial Church.

Condolence to does people who lost their friends and families from the incident. I really don't understand why people always do bad thing to people who do good things for them like the terrorist i think they planned it really they targeted the Berlin's largest's Christmas markets its really bad for the people in berlin i have does freaking terrorist who terrorist a very beautiful country like Berlin now they don't really have the heart to live as a good civilian yet they really want to destroy some of the countries beautiful artifacts etc. what the hell? if we act to destroy them they will be at risk they are weak because they use this tactics but i say to the countries that they will have full info when people are coming into their town so that they will know who is the terrorist and kill them instantly Cheesy

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^^^ If you are a "refugee", or act as one, then it is extremely easy to gain entry to the European Union. There is no vetting at all. Just need to pay a small amount to the people smugglers in Tunisia and Libya, who will put you in a fishing boat destined towards the EU.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on December 21, 2016, 05:07:53 PM

Update on the story, total number of people killed: 12, wonder: 49

Police are now looking for Tunisian asylum-seeker Anis Amri, they found his id document under the seat of the truck.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-truck-idUSKBN148287
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38392128

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The warrant lists six different aliases used by Anis Amri, who at times tried to pass himself off as an Egyptian or Lebanese.
He is reported to have travelled to Italy in 2012 and then on to Germany in 2015 where he applied for asylum and was granted temporary leave to stay in April of this year.

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After being turned down for asylum, the man should have been deported but could not be returned to Tunisia because his documents were missing

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The suspect had reportedly been under German surveillance earlier this year on suspicion of seeking to buy guns.

There was everything wrong with this guy and they justlet him walk freely.

There's the €100,000 reward. Here's the photo

The search is over,Anis Amri is killed in Milan,Italy by Italian police during routine checks.He open fire and wounding one policeman before he was killed by another police officer.

This show how these terrorist with no problem traveling around Europe and how security is at a low level within the boundaries of the European Union.This is only one terrorist less,but there is no doubt that there are still thousands who are waiting for their chance to be glorified by killing Europeans.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/dec/23/berlin-market-attack-suspect-anis-amri-killed-in-milan-reports-say-live-coverage

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Quote from: Mersedes on December 23, 2016, 10:09:41 AM

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Quote from: v1ryspro on December 22, 2016, 03:25:35 PM

Quote from: merchantofzeny on December 22, 2016, 02:46:16 PM

For those advocating banning entry to Muslims, that might stem the tide but won't drain out what has been left to enter unchecked. Even if no one with links to terrorist organizations abroad enter Germany, these groups now have a recruiting pool in Germany. For example, most of the violence in France are caused by home-grown terrorists.

They should increase surveillance and track German Muslims going abroad where they can be easily recruited into terror cells. They need to implement solutions before people become too pissed off, a far-right radical group emerges, and things get more nasty. I live in the Philippines, you probably heard of our drug war. Though the current administration's authoritarian leanings are definitely troubling, people seem to support the drug campaign. Why? Because we've grown tired of these petty drug dealers roaming the streets that now we don't care if we wake up to see dead bodies in front of our doors. That same thing can happen to Germans, they'd eventually get enough of Muslim terrorists that they'd support anything to get these out of their country.

To those who were hurt, I wish you a speedy recovery. To the families of those who died, no words can ease the pain but I give you my condolences.

Homegrown terrorists from France in most cases, was besotted by the Islamic propaganda when I traveled to Islamic countries. So from the threat of terrorism no one is immune. We need to eradicate Islam in Europe.

And how do you suggest that be done without actually killing innocent Muslims? It's not like they'd suddenly turn irreligious.

Should be immediately expelled from Europe all refugees. Along the border to establish minefields, and the road through the checkpoints on the border to guard with weapons and in any attempt of penetration to open fire.

All these measures are not needed. Just end giving benefit payments to these immigrants. They immigrate to Europe, attracted by the free welfare cheques and other benefits, Once the benefits are gone, they will go back to their own countries.

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Quote from: merchantofzeny on December 23, 2016, 10:04:23 AM

Quote from: v1ryspro on December 22, 2016, 03:25:35 PM

Quote from: merchantofzeny on December 22, 2016, 02:46:16 PM

For those advocating banning entry to Muslims, that might stem the tide but won't drain out what has been left to enter unchecked. Even if no one with links to terrorist organizations abroad enter Germany, these groups now have a recruiting pool in Germany. For example, most of the violence in France are caused by home-grown terrorists.

They should increase surveillance and track German Muslims going abroad where they can be easily recruited into terror cells. They need to implement solutions before people become too pissed off, a far-right radical group emerges, and things get more nasty. I live in the Philippines, you probably heard of our drug war. Though the current administration's authoritarian leanings are definitely troubling, people seem to support the drug campaign. Why? Because we've grown tired of these petty drug dealers roaming the streets that now we don't care if we wake up to see dead bodies in front of our doors. That same thing can happen to Germans, they'd eventually get enough of Muslim terrorists that they'd support anything to get these out of their country.

To those who were hurt, I wish you a speedy recovery. To the families of those who died, no words can ease the pain but I give you my condolences.

Homegrown terrorists from France in most cases, was besotted by the Islamic propaganda when I traveled to Islamic countries. So from the threat of terrorism no one is immune. We need to eradicate Islam in Europe.

And how do you suggest that be done without actually killing innocent Muslims? It's not like they'd suddenly turn irreligious.

Should be immediately expelled from Europe all refugees. Along the border to establish minefields, and the road through the checkpoints on the border to guard with weapons and in any attempt of penetration to open fire.

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Quote from: v1ryspro on December 22, 2016, 03:25:35 PM

Quote from: merchantofzeny on December 22, 2016, 02:46:16 PM

For those advocating banning entry to Muslims, that might stem the tide but won't drain out what has been left to enter unchecked. Even if no one with links to terrorist organizations abroad enter Germany, these groups now have a recruiting pool in Germany. For example, most of the violence in France are caused by home-grown terrorists.

They should increase surveillance and track German Muslims going abroad where they can be easily recruited into terror cells. They need to implement solutions before people become too pissed off, a far-right radical group emerges, and things get more nasty. I live in the Philippines, you probably heard of our drug war. Though the current administration's authoritarian leanings are definitely troubling, people seem to support the drug campaign. Why? Because we've grown tired of these petty drug dealers roaming the streets that now we don't care if we wake up to see dead bodies in front of our doors. That same thing can happen to Germans, they'd eventually get enough of Muslim terrorists that they'd support anything to get these out of their country.

To those who were hurt, I wish you a speedy recovery. To the families of those who died, no words can ease the pain but I give you my condolences.

Homegrown terrorists from France in most cases, was besotted by the Islamic propaganda when I traveled to Islamic countries. So from the threat of terrorism no one is immune. We need to eradicate Islam in Europe.

And how do you suggest that be done without actually killing innocent Muslims? It's not like they'd suddenly turn irreligious.

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Quote from: v1ryspro on December 22, 2016, 03:25:35 PM

Homegrown terrorists from France in most cases, was besotted by the Islamic propaganda when I traveled to Islamic countries. So from the threat of terrorism no one is immune. We need to eradicate Islam in Europe.

No point in using the word "homegrown". These people were born and brought up in France, but they never considered France as their homeland. They never assimilated with the native population. So nothing differentiate them from the new immigrants from the Middle East. It also proves that no amount of education and upbringing can eradicate the primitive urges among these people.

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Quote from: v1ryspro on December 22, 2016, 03:25:35 PM

Quote from: merchantofzeny on December 22, 2016, 02:46:16 PM

For those advocating banning entry to Muslims, that might stem the tide but won't drain out what has been left to enter unchecked. Even if no one with links to terrorist organizations abroad enter Germany, these groups now have a recruiting pool in Germany. For example, most of the violence in France are caused by home-grown terrorists.

They should increase surveillance and track German Muslims going abroad where they can be easily recruited into terror cells. They need to implement solutions before people become too pissed off, a far-right radical group emerges, and things get more nasty. I live in the Philippines, you probably heard of our drug war. Though the current administration's authoritarian leanings are definitely troubling, people seem to support the drug campaign. Why? Because we've grown tired of these petty drug dealers roaming the streets that now we don't care if we wake up to see dead bodies in front of our doors. That same thing can happen to Germans, they'd eventually get enough of Muslim terrorists that they'd support anything to get these out of their country.

To those who were hurt, I wish you a speedy recovery. To the families of those who died, no words can ease the pain but I give you my condolences.

Homegrown terrorists from France in most cases, was besotted by the Islamic propaganda when I traveled to Islamic countries. So from the threat of terrorism no one is immune. We need to eradicate Islam in Europe.

This song illustrates the sort of twisted sick thinking we are dealing with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsrw83fGqpE

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Quote from: merchantofzeny on December 22, 2016, 02:46:16 PM

For those advocating banning entry to Muslims, that might stem the tide but won't drain out what has been left to enter unchecked. Even if no one with links to terrorist organizations abroad enter Germany, these groups now have a recruiting pool in Germany. For example, most of the violence in France are caused by home-grown terrorists.

They should increase surveillance and track German Muslims going abroad where they can be easily recruited into terror cells. They need to implement solutions before people become too pissed off, a far-right radical group emerges, and things get more nasty. I live in the Philippines, you probably heard of our drug war. Though the current administration's authoritarian leanings are definitely troubling, people seem to support the drug campaign. Why? Because we've grown tired of these petty drug dealers roaming the streets that now we don't care if we wake up to see dead bodies in front of our doors. That same thing can happen to Germans, they'd eventually get enough of Muslim terrorists that they'd support anything to get these out of their country.

To those who were hurt, I wish you a speedy recovery. To the families of those who died, no words can ease the pain but I give you my condolences.

Homegrown terrorists from France in most cases, was besotted by the Islamic propaganda when I traveled to Islamic countries. So from the threat of terrorism no one is immune. We need to eradicate Islam in Europe.

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For those advocating banning entry to Muslims, that might stem the tide but won't drain out what has been left to enter unchecked. Even if no one with links to terrorist organizations abroad enter Germany, these groups now have a recruiting pool in Germany. For example, most of the violence in France are caused by home-grown terrorists.

They should increase surveillance and track German Muslims going abroad where they can be easily recruited into terror cells. They need to implement solutions before people become too pissed off, a far-right radical group emerges, and things get more nasty. I live in the Philippines, you probably heard of our drug war. Though the current administration's authoritarian leanings are definitely troubling, people seem to support the drug campaign. Why? Because we've grown tired of these petty drug dealers roaming the streets that now we don't care if we wake up to see dead bodies in front of our doors. That same thing can happen to Germans, they'd eventually get enough of Muslim terrorists that they'd support anything to get these out of their country.

To those who were hurt, I wish you a speedy recovery. To the families of those who died, no words can ease the pain but I give you my condolences.

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Quote from: wowanstrong on December 22, 2016, 01:50:30 PM

You do not mistake? I have not heard that Switzerland and Russia have offered to host on its territory of refugees. Besides, in Russia a lot of problems with Muslims. And these problems will only increase.

Do you have any proof for this? Both Switzerland and Russia have accepted less than 1,000 asylum seekers from Syria (a lot more have used Russia as a transit point to Europe, though). Now compare that to the figure of 1 million, which Germany accepted in less than a year. The Muslim problem in Russia, is much more manageable than the same in France and Germany.

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Quote from: countryfree on December 21, 2016, 06:30:49 PM

Quote from: pawel7777 on December 21, 2016, 05:07:53 PM

Police are now looking for Tunisian asylum-seeker Anis Amri, they found his id document under the seat of the truck.

Is this real? I know terrorists are assholes but I can't understand how the guy could be dumb enough to forget his ID in the truck.
If I were him, I would just walk into a police station and tell that I've lost my wallet.

The guy believes Muhammad split the moon in two and flew to heaven on a winged horse. He is as dumb as a rock!!!

I am not surprised. The driver was fighting so in the struggle he probably lost his id.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 22, 2016, 12:22:08 PM

Quote from: saddampbuh on December 21, 2016, 08:38:54 PM

Quote from: chachaa on December 21, 2016, 05:19:50 PM

And how can you protect people from terrorist attacks? In our time is the problem. Arms so perfectly that it is difficult to detect and it has great destructive force. So many victims. Now generally began to use cars.

by not bringing muslims into your country. guns, knives and trucks are not the culprits here.

That is the point. The attacks are occurring in countries such as France and Germany, which gave asylum to these people. There are no attacks in countries such as Switzerland and Russia, which rejected the asylum claims of these people.

You do not mistake? I have not heard that Switzerland and Russia have offered to host on its territory of refugees. Besides, in Russia a lot of problems with Muslims. And these problems will only increase.

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Quote from: saddampbuh on December 21, 2016, 08:38:54 PM

Quote from: chachaa on December 21, 2016, 05:19:50 PM

And how can you protect people from terrorist attacks? In our time is the problem. Arms so perfectly that it is difficult to detect and it has great destructive force. So many victims. Now generally began to use cars.

by not bringing muslims into your country. guns, knives and trucks are not the culprits here.

That is the point. The attacks are occurring in countries such as France and Germany, which gave asylum to these people. There are no attacks in countries such as Switzerland and Russia, which rejected the asylum claims of these people.

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