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June 06, 2016, 12:54:57 PM



Bill Clinton Heckled, Interrupted in L.A.







Sunday at a campaign event in East Los Angeles Former President Bill Clinton’s speech was interrupted by a screaming group of Bernie Sanders’ supporters. Once Clinton regained control of the room, according to Fox News’s Fin Gomez, Clinton responded, “If I were them, I’d be screaming too because they know they will be toast by election day.”



http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/06/bill-clinton-heckled-interrupted-in-l-a/



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June 06, 2016, 08:36:07 AM



Bernie Sanders Supporters Promised Free Laptop or iPad If They Vote For Him, They Believe









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June 05, 2016, 12:54:55 PM
If you have time, try to link the column here so I could read it.

Sorry, I can't remember where (or when) I found it. Those earlier thoughts were my own, not the columnist's. From what I remember, the column was one of those bash-Marcuse jobbies.
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June 04, 2016, 08:19:32 PM



Bernie's wrecking crew




 Sanders' New York delegation is threatening to sow chaos on the convention floor.

Call them Hillary’s home-state haters.

A group of rabble-rousing Bernie Sanders supporters from New York is headed for the Democratic National Convention next month as hand-picked, at-large delegates -- and they’re threatening to make trouble for Hillary Clinton at the very moment she hopes to make history as the first female nominee of either party and unite Democrats for the coming battle with Donald Trump.

The disgruntled Sanders delegation, heading to Philadelphia with deep reservations about Clinton’s brand of center-left pragmatism, serves as a reminder of how contentious the four-day meeting could become, and a warning to Democrats of the importance of bringing Sanders happily into the fold.

Some 20,000 protesters are reportedly planning anti-Clinton protests outside of the convention hall. But interviews with members of Sanders’ New York delegation reveal that supporters of the Vermont senator are also considering bringing some of those protests inside the Wells Fargo Center itself — raising the prospect of an embarrassing spectacle on prime-time TV.

These are not the kind of people who just fall in line.


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-convention-delegates-223848#ixzz4AZ4jBtkW


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June 04, 2016, 02:55:05 PM

I read in a column somewhere that Marcuse's point in writing Repressive Tolerance was that the Weimar Republic should have cracked down hard on the Nazis: his argument hinged on this point, in that free speech is 'repressive' because it allows people like Hitler to get through & take over.

When I read that, I realized that Marcuse was one of those guys who got stuck in an awful past & yearned to refight a huge battle long lost in which the bad guys won. Had he been around & published his work today, it'd be surprisingly easy to flip off his work in a kindly way.

Namely: "This book Repressive Tolerance was written by a man afflicted with post-traumatic stress disorder as a result of the horrors of Nazism and the Holocaust. The poor fellow is locked into a psychological time warp common in PTSD sufferers. Should be of interest to amateur psychologists and those who want to see what suffering from PTSD does to a full-fledged scholar."

The above is the gentle way to keep his type from stirring up trouble. Heck, it might well be true.   


If you have time, try to link the column here so I could read it.


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June 04, 2016, 01:43:03 PM

I read in a column somewhere that Marcuse's point in writing Repressive Tolerance was that the Weimar Republic should have cracked down hard on the Nazis: his argument hinged on this point, in that free speech is 'repressive' because it allows people like Hitler to get through & take over.

When I read that, I realized that Marcuse was one of those guys who got stuck in an awful past & yearned to refight a huge battle long lost in which the bad guys won. Had he been around & published his work today, it'd be surprisingly easy to flip off his work in a kindly way.

Namely: "This book Repressive Tolerance was written by a man afflicted with post-traumatic stress disorder as a result of the horrors of Nazism and the Holocaust. The poor fellow is locked into a psychological time warp common in PTSD sufferers. Should be of interest to amateur psychologists and those who want to see what suffering from PTSD does to a full-fledged scholar."

The above is the gentle way to keep his type from stirring up trouble. Heck, it might well be true.   
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June 04, 2016, 09:14:11 AM









A video was posted to YouTube by ‘Lawyerman’ that shows the complete attack by a horde of Mexican flag waving #NeverTrump thugs on a woman wearing a ‘Trump 45’ jersey just outside a Marriott hotel in San Jose following a rally by presumptive Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on Thursday.

The 2:59 video shows the mob advancing as the woman retreats toward to the main entrance of the Marriott. The woman is seen showing the mob she is not intimidated by gesturing to and showing off her ‘Trump 45’ jersey.

For that she was set upon by the angry mob. The man filming the mob fled after the first barrage but continued filming through the safety of the glass walls of the Marriott lobby.

The woman in the ‘Trump 45’ jersey approached the doors but was not let in even as she was pelted with eggs and the braying, Mexican-flag wielding mob inched ever closer to her. Security guards can be seen pulling the doors closed as she tries to get in. Even as she retreated, the woman defied the mob, not backing down in her support of Trump’s candidacy.

The woman moved to another door of the Marriott entrance where she was backed into a corner. After receiving more abuse, she was finally let in the lobby.

It is notable that no one attempted to protect the woman from the violent anti-Trump protesters. She showed more guts than any security man in uniform there or any other so-called man witnessing the attack.

After being let in, in a final act of defiance the woman gave the mob one more look at her ‘Trump 45’ jersey before being led away by a Marriott staffer.






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June 03, 2016, 09:37:36 AM
Why would a tax on the super rich cause riots? And didn't the us have some tax bracket like that in the past? If I remember correctly it was even higher for the wealthier.

Insane tax rates are not going to work. The super-rich will just migrate to some other country, taking their assets and businesses with them. Millions of American citizens will be left without a job, and this will cause social unrest.

You are right when you say that in the past the tax rates were high. For example, in 1944 the tax was 94% for those in the top-most slab (annual income greater than $200,000). However, such high rates can't be implemented today. It is not practical.

Not sure how much worse it would be as things are going. Many of the businesses that would leave already avoid taxes through all the loopholes. And end up paying little of what they should. The burden being shifted to ordinary people with time. And much of the money the rich have isn't circulating in the economy. Except for occasionally buying a jet or two. And for financial gambling.

Why would a tax on the super rich cause riots? And didn't the us have some tax bracket like that in the past? If I remember correctly it was even higher for the wealthier.

Insane tax rates are not going to work. The super-rich will just migrate to some other country, taking their assets and businesses with them. Millions of American citizens will be left without a job, and this will cause social unrest.
...

With a 'one-world' political and monetary system, where are these 'super-rich' going to go?

In practice they will probably go anywhere they like and be quite happy since it is they who will be designing the system, but this will certainly be an element of the sales pitch used to sell it to the Bernie-bot class.  As Thatcher says, Socialism works OK until you run out of other people's money.  Making sure that said 'other people' cannot escape before being fleeced will have a powerful marketing potential.

Not that sanders is proposing this. But I would go for something like codetermination for example. And promoting cooperatives and things like that. Make sure workers are represented when decisions about the business they work in are made. That would impose limits on what the owners could do. Sure. But it isn't fleecing them. And would have real impact in the life of most people, not just marketing. And it isn't new. Nor codetermination, cooperatives, etc. Nor the need to limit businesses. Like not allowing child labor, sexual exploitation of workers, etc.




We're Going To Kill Donald Trump - Says 3-Year-Old Mexican Girl Being Brainwashed by Her Parents





Sad.





Is that sanders fault too? Or was it and the last post to go to the trump thread?



Violent Anti-Trump Goons Beat Trump Supporters, Chant “Bernie! Bernie! Bernie!”


ANTI-TRUMP GOONS TERRORIZED TRUMP SUPPORTERS THURSDAY NIGHT IN SAN JOSE

Police watched as Trump Supporters were Bloodied, Beaten, Cold-Cocked, Beaned in the face with eggs.
MEN AND WOMEN!



http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/video-violent-anti-trump-goons-beat-trump-supporters-chant-bernie-bernie-bernie/



Are we ready for the DNC convention folks? I know I am...

 Smiley


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May 31, 2016, 02:19:29 PM
Why would a tax on the super rich cause riots? And didn't the us have some tax bracket like that in the past? If I remember correctly it was even higher for the wealthier.

Insane tax rates are not going to work. The super-rich will just migrate to some other country, taking their assets and businesses with them. Millions of American citizens will be left without a job, and this will cause social unrest.

You are right when you say that in the past the tax rates were high. For example, in 1944 the tax was 94% for those in the top-most slab (annual income greater than $200,000). However, such high rates can't be implemented today. It is not practical.

Not sure how much worse it would be as things are going. Many of the businesses that would leave already avoid taxes through all the loopholes. And end up paying little of what they should. The burden being shifted to ordinary people with time. And much of the money the rich have isn't circulating in the economy. Except for occasionally buying a jet or two. And for financial gambling.

Why would a tax on the super rich cause riots? And didn't the us have some tax bracket like that in the past? If I remember correctly it was even higher for the wealthier.

Insane tax rates are not going to work. The super-rich will just migrate to some other country, taking their assets and businesses with them. Millions of American citizens will be left without a job, and this will cause social unrest.
...

With a 'one-world' political and monetary system, where are these 'super-rich' going to go?

In practice they will probably go anywhere they like and be quite happy since it is they who will be designing the system, but this will certainly be an element of the sales pitch used to sell it to the Bernie-bot class.  As Thatcher says, Socialism works OK until you run out of other people's money.  Making sure that said 'other people' cannot escape before being fleeced will have a powerful marketing potential.

Not that sanders is proposing this. But I would go for something like codetermination for example. And promoting cooperatives and things like that. Make sure workers are represented when decisions about the business they work in are made. That would impose limits on what the owners could do. Sure. But it isn't fleecing them. And would have real impact in the life of most people, not just marketing. And it isn't new. Nor codetermination, cooperatives, etc. Nor the need to limit businesses. Like not allowing child labor, sexual exploitation of workers, etc.




We're Going To Kill Donald Trump - Says 3-Year-Old Mexican Girl Being Brainwashed by Her Parents





Sad.





Is that sanders fault too?


The word "weirdo" is in the title. Most open death threats against TRUMP are from berniebots. It fits perfectly.

Yes.




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May 31, 2016, 02:16:05 PM
Why would a tax on the super rich cause riots? And didn't the us have some tax bracket like that in the past? If I remember correctly it was even higher for the wealthier.

Insane tax rates are not going to work. The super-rich will just migrate to some other country, taking their assets and businesses with them. Millions of American citizens will be left without a job, and this will cause social unrest.

You are right when you say that in the past the tax rates were high. For example, in 1944 the tax was 94% for those in the top-most slab (annual income greater than $200,000). However, such high rates can't be implemented today. It is not practical.

Not sure how much worse it would be as things are going. Many of the businesses that would leave already avoid taxes through all the loopholes. And end up paying little of what they should. The burden being shifted to ordinary people with time. And much of the money the rich have isn't circulating in the economy. Except for occasionally buying a jet or two. And for financial gambling.

Why would a tax on the super rich cause riots? And didn't the us have some tax bracket like that in the past? If I remember correctly it was even higher for the wealthier.

Insane tax rates are not going to work. The super-rich will just migrate to some other country, taking their assets and businesses with them. Millions of American citizens will be left without a job, and this will cause social unrest.
...

With a 'one-world' political and monetary system, where are these 'super-rich' going to go?

In practice they will probably go anywhere they like and be quite happy since it is they who will be designing the system, but this will certainly be an element of the sales pitch used to sell it to the Bernie-bot class.  As Thatcher says, Socialism works OK until you run out of other people's money.  Making sure that said 'other people' cannot escape before being fleeced will have a powerful marketing potential.

Not that sanders is proposing this. But I would go for something like codetermination for example. And promoting cooperatives and things like that. Make sure workers are represented when decisions about the business they work in are made. That would impose limits on what the owners could do. Sure. But it isn't fleecing them. And would have real impact in the life of most people, not just marketing. And it isn't new. Nor codetermination, cooperatives, etc. Nor the need to limit businesses. Like not allowing child labor, sexual exploitation of workers, etc.




We're Going To Kill Donald Trump - Says 3-Year-Old Mexican Girl Being Brainwashed by Her Parents





Sad.





Is that sanders fault too? Or was it and the last post to go to the trump thread?
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May 31, 2016, 10:37:48 AM



We're Going To Kill Donald Trump - Says 3-Year-Old Mexican Girl Being Brainwashed by Her Parents





Sad.



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May 31, 2016, 10:36:14 AM



Power is not Money.

If you tax a billionaire at 99% he still has the power to travel all over the world and recreate his lost fortune with other billionaires. The real power is knowledge. If you are an artist, you do not lose your skills because you have broken strings on your guitar, or no more paint for your canvas.

The main problem with socialism is a lack of vision.

Socialists cannot project into the future.

Socialism does not scale.

Its geometry is fixed.

The ideology is not based on creativity.

Nature is pure creativity, construction, deconstruction, adaption, evolution. The exact opposite of socialism.


legendary
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May 31, 2016, 08:38:31 AM
Why would a tax on the super rich cause riots? And didn't the us have some tax bracket like that in the past? If I remember correctly it was even higher for the wealthier.

Insane tax rates are not going to work. The super-rich will just migrate to some other country, taking their assets and businesses with them. Millions of American citizens will be left without a job, and this will cause social unrest.
...

With a 'one-world' political and monetary system, where are these 'super-rich' going to go?

In practice they will probably go anywhere they like and be quite happy since it is they who will be designing the system, but this will certainly be an element of the sales pitch used to sell it to the Bernie-bot class.  As Thatcher says, Socialism works OK until you run out of other people's money.  Making sure that said 'other people' cannot escape before being fleeced will have a powerful marketing potential.

legendary
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May 31, 2016, 01:30:40 AM
Why would a tax on the super rich cause riots? And didn't the us have some tax bracket like that in the past? If I remember correctly it was even higher for the wealthier.

Insane tax rates are not going to work. The super-rich will just migrate to some other country, taking their assets and businesses with them. Millions of American citizens will be left without a job, and this will cause social unrest.

You are right when you say that in the past the tax rates were high. For example, in 1944 the tax was 94% for those in the top-most slab (annual income greater than $200,000). However, such high rates can't be implemented today. It is not practical.

I think the opposite actually. It is much easier than in 1944. State's control is bigger than before, if the State really wants could collect a ridicolously huge amount of taxes. It can be done easily but this is not the right time... yet.

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May 31, 2016, 01:12:43 AM
Do these politicians have real solutions to any problem?
legendary
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May 31, 2016, 01:01:57 AM
Why would a tax on the super rich cause riots? And didn't the us have some tax bracket like that in the past? If I remember correctly it was even higher for the wealthier.

Insane tax rates are not going to work. The super-rich will just migrate to some other country, taking their assets and businesses with them. Millions of American citizens will be left without a job, and this will cause social unrest.

You are right when you say that in the past the tax rates were high. For example, in 1944 the tax was 94% for those in the top-most slab (annual income greater than $200,000). However, such high rates can't be implemented today. It is not practical.
legendary
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May 31, 2016, 12:21:49 AM
The entire American economy is based on Capitalism, and it is not possible to transform it to a Socialist-based one. Even if Sanders becomes the POTUS, he will not be able to change the system.

Isn't socialism supposed to come from capitalism? Much easier to make that transition than from a backwards third world country for example. Not that sanders is proposing anything like that. Or like a socialist utopia. He proposed nothing different than what america already had in the past. Not that long ago. A type of social democracy. Not socialism.

The US is not France, where a 75% tax on the uber-rich can be imposed. There will be riots and Sanders will be impeached in a matter of days.

Why would a tax on the super rich cause riots? And didn't the us have some tax bracket like that in the past? If I remember correctly it was even higher for the wealthier.
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