Topic: Best Altcoin to invest in for 2016 and WHY - page 45. (Read 110236 times)

Just consider friction. How many people can adopt a virtual transaction per hour versus teaching physical bodies how to do some new foreign physical method of paying for physical goods? The former is autonomous and the latter requires a lot of hand-holding and interferes with normal storefront flow.

For example, Bitcoin for porn. Bitcoin for domain names, Bitcoin for virtual contracting work, etc... That stuff is already growing. Now what can an altcoin add to that? I have ideas.

I agree with you that target markets have to be identified.

I disagree there are huge target markets in retail commerce. Retail will all get merged into Govcoin (aka GavinCoin), banks, and smart cards (and smartphones for those who prefer).

The frontier is the shit the banksters can't control. And yes we need identify and attack large markets in these frontiers. Sorry to hear we must leave you behind. Hopefully you will come around later. I bet you will.

Edit: the average Joe is very interested in virtual services. I think you are incorrect there. The banksters always shut down the large game currencies because they become so popular.

What you must bear in mind is that the average Joe is not  interested in all that high tech fancy new stuff.
He just want to pay and get goods.
That is why most of these coins fail.
They only thing these coins bring to the table is hype for  pump and dump and scams.

There is a reason most of the people in the world do not know how money is being created, they are simply not interested in knowing it.
They just want to pay and get goods.
So ecosystem is a very important thing for a coin.

Take a look at Litecoin, it is in the top 10 but there is no development en the ecosystem is not growing.
It is only a matter of time before it leavs the top 10 and currently it is only used as a pump and dump coin.

Yes you can
you can pay any fiat bill with Orbitcoin via Cointopay.com

As for the rich list not created as yet, but you can look through the blockchain your self if you like, or create one.

I don't think we'll see a massive dump with ORB... only 2.1 million coins mined and most will be staking.

If you can't handle a dump you shouldn't really be playing the game, I know I could buy all Orbitcoin if it goes low, so to me its a sound investment, maybe still a little risky for somebody with less funds.

I think that was disguised humor. Lol. I agree.


I emphatically disagree with the implied necessity of retail and tangible items purchasing (tangible items ordered online are relevant). Do you have any concept of how many more virtual microtransactions are done daily, many of which are monetized with an advertising model that is dying? Others are not monetized or monetized with a reputation and gift economy model.

You are incredibly stuck in the old world economy. You do not understand what is really happening. Sorry smooth is correct. I can not teach you with words. You will have to watch all your assumptions fail. I am not asserting smooth agrees with my assumptions (he doesn't even entirely know what I am up to).

Edit: the tangible economy is being destroyed as we speak by the coming Economic Totalitarianism. It is going to absolutely implode. People are going to need to do virtual commerce and be able to pay each other anonymously over the internet in order to prosper in the face of the State taxing and expropriating everything to death. The bankrupt socialist States of the West are driving the global economy into the abyss. You are focused on the dying portion of the economy. It is the virtual Knowledge Age that is growing much faster and will continue to grow.

Still no richlist and that is very important so I know what is going to be dumped
Will have a look but red flags are still with Orbitcoin.

Can you get a haircut using Orbitcoin?
With Digibyte and Guldencoin you can.

A coin may have all the newest features and techs but if I can't use it in real life or online to by stuff with it well it is basicly worthless.
The only thing that coin can be used for is dump and dump and I got a feeling that Orbitcoin is a pump and dump / scam coin  

Of course not; as I said we don't know.


Good luck with that.

And if you want to know who I am?
then check out my stellarcoin is a scam video

= https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKT9jUeZ4uU

I did reply you got it in the quote lol,
if you wish to meet the full Orbitcoin team do a little research :-)

Mario, aka ORBitcoinLove
Jonathan Weston, aka TheRedMist
John Doering, aka Ghostlander
David N. Brett, aka DNBpools.io
Ammad Khalid support dev

And more, but Orb people are mainly active on Cryptocointalk

I could care less if you invest or not, more for me lol

David doesn't count as far as I am concerned.

Okay so Monero has an advantage and I urge that poster to invest in Cryptonote such a Monero because it is non-anon. Please do it  

And then he will be presented with something superior with an anon dev, and he will refuse to invest. And that will be the perfect lesson for him.


I don't think non-examples replaced with subjective opinions demonstrate correlation or lack thereof.

Look we are not so dumb here.

We all know it is very easy to identify which projects will be successful. It has nothing to do with anonymity, although sometimes anonymity will be correlated with the signs of failure, e.g. john-conner is anonymous on VanillaCoin and he has been caught doing half-assed white papers, stealing Bitcoin code while representing it as his own original work, etc..

The easy way to identify successful projects is the quality of the technology. Even Ethereum's technology sucked that is why it was easy to see they would fail. The concept was flawed (to have every peer replicate the CPU cost of the runtimes).

I am trying to explain to this hard-headed simpleton that those coins he is so enamored with, they don't have any competitive advantage.

Copycoins are a dime a dozen.

Success will be handed to those coins with a unique technological innovation that fills a large market need. Market needs for cryptocoins have to do with virtual worlds and virtual commerce, not with retail commerce.

You can even see the female in the Digibyte promo video trying to pay for retail clothing item and she can't even figure out how to do it with her smartphone. It is cumbersome, slow, and silly. People will simply pay with cash or atm swipe card. In Hong Kong they already have the Octopus swipe card accepted every where even the McDonalds.

The big frontier is virtual commerce. There is so much virtual commerce that is locked up because we don't have permissionless microtransations.

I am about to present the solution to this. And it will be big time innovation.

So go on with this time wasting crap here, I am out of here now. Wasting time here on nonsense.

Still no reply regarding:

devs
richlist

You just indirectly told everyone to stay away from Orbitcoin

Orbitcoin isn't no copy and paste PoS clone that will have an infinite supply,

it has a set limit of 3.7 million the amount PoS holders can win is 67% of daily mined blocks and POW miners is 34% of daily mined blocks,

So ORB PoS creation is set to the daily mined supply, that's limited at 3.7 million.

Edit, forgot to mention Ghostlander is the current head of development, John Doering one of the most respected developers in the crypto world and creator of the NeoScrypt Algo.

I am not saying he is a scammer but I would not touch a coin or project where Jed is involved in.

Furthermore who is the creator/dev of Orbitcoin?
Can you provide a richlist?
POS is the death of every coins did you know that?

If I where you I would get out of that coin really fast!
Or are you a bagholder perhaps?

Only red flags with Orbitcoin  

Yes, his full name is on the web site. I'm not sure who is the most prolific, the stats can be misleading in some ways, but I'm sure he's put a lot of time, effort, and money into the project, without question.


I don't know about his address, although he does have businesses whose addresses may be published (again I'm not sure), but his photos, videos, full name, location (at least country, not sure whether more than that), etc. have all definitely been posted. I think maybe pictures of his wife too, but I'm not sure about that. Same with David Latapie (except the wife).


I don't know whether it correlates or not, and I doubt you do, but individual cherry picked examples do not demonstrate correlation or lack thereof.

Let me teach you a lesson the hard way.

Stellar dev Jed McCaleb is a big scammer please see this video I made
= https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKT9jUeZ4uU

It isn't competition for Orbitcoin as the space reserve currency,, stellar is centralised crap..
ORB is decentralised, open source, peer to peer, and the real space reserve currency!

Is fluffypony non-anon since he appears to be the most prolific dev in terms of the code?

If yes, where can I find all his public identity information, videos, photos, address, etc?

I have shared my Youtube boxing videos, my address (even a photo of my current residence from the outside), and my photos.


Why silly? The individual wants to judge everything with his eyes. So I give him something he can relate to. This is the way simpletons "think" (by example and what they can relate to, not by abstract conceptualization).


Anonymity or not doesn't seem to correlate with performance.

There are many, many examples of non-anon who have defrauded the community.

If someone refuses to invest in the greatest investment of a lifetime because they don't like anonymous devs, they deserve to lose.

I'm very tempted to go anonymous just so I can make those fools lose.

Let me help you.

Exchanges and developers of coins are not the same thing.
Just like apples and banana's are not the same , they are fruits but not the same fruit.
Just as an Dev and an Exchange have in common they work with crypto, a Dev is not an Exchange and vise versa

Furthermore you should never have all your coins on an exchange, only the coins you want to trade.
Best thing to do is to have an coldwallet stored on 3 different places.

Mark Karples is not the founder/creator of Mt.Gox that is Jed McCaleb also known als the creator of Ripples and Stellar. Makes you think right  
But it is a good thing right that we know who Mark Karpeles is, he is probably going to jail and sets the example.
Would be much harder if he was anonymous right  

Also I only trade on exchanges where I know who the creators are and fall under my countries juristiction.

There two non-anon Monero core team members, five anon.

I mentioned both citing the examples of MtGox (non-anon, scam) and BTC-E (anon, non-scam, so far) as silly arguments.

It is not about the existence of examples, it is about relative risk, both actual and perceived, though in reality "actual" is unobservable so it may not matter, except as a philosophical debate now and a historical debate later.

Sure 50% pre-mine on a high supply shitcoin with no advancements like that,
Then Max gets $3,000,000 in investment from poor sheep to pump his own pre-mine,
well done Max you've done it again...

but I won't be investing in the shit, if he wanted to help crypto his crowdfunding platform would be based on Bitcoin or another currency that was already created, why make a new one? he's a shill.