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mariokart

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You also don't need to be using the same ip for collusion, ((like you said you wasn't))
And they didn't randomly ban just you 2, that happen to know each other, you most likely got reported by players (not that hard to spot) and they reviewed your hand history.
Your post only makes you look more guilty with these claims
You most likely was cheating and now you're both complaining because your funds was frozen.

You post only makes you look more like a casino rep.

Seriously... you can't take someone to court, decide he's guilty, and then when he refutes things you say respond with "that only makes you look more guilty".

What's going on here is very kafkaesque and very disturbing and if you weren't a casino rep I'd be surprised you don't see that.

mariokart

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This is one of the issues causing a conflict of interest. If a player is banned - the site keeps his funds.
This means it is in their direct financial interest to ban players with large account balances.

I've read the post - does anyone know who Mark Jameson is, or what country crypto poker club is registered in?
Is this a real company with an address we can go to if shit hits the fan?

Or is this a misuse of the crypto technology to remain anonymous and unaccountable while holding other peoples' money?

All poker sites have a real address and company behind them and their have been lawsuits in the past about people being wrongfully banned - but I'm not sure any legal recourse is possible when the people behind the company are hidden/invisible - which raises an alarming question regarding the inherent conflict of interest here.

sowns

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Quote from: mariokart on June 12, 2019, 11:11:06 PM

I'm not sure I understand you post.
My point was that the site is keeping the money to themselves.

In most poker sites when someone is banned for collusion, effected players are reimbursed.

Either way, my main point is that as you can see from the email correspondence, the players were banned without looking at play history or handhistories based on very circumstancial and partial evidence, and letting the site get away with this is a dangerous precedent.

One of the issues with a crypto poker site like this is - these guys are holding a lot of money, and can dissappear with it at a moment's notice - and you'd have no address to complain to - because there is no official company or person behind the site.

When this is the situation, they need to be extra careful and clear to do only trustworthy and transparent actions, or trust is gone.

If I'm wrong about this and there is a public company or figure standing behind this site, please let me know.

Yeah, that makes a lot more sense then what I thought you were referring to xD. According to this: https://coindelite.com/ico-press-release/crypto-poker-club-launching-next-generation-blockchain-powered-poker-platform/, “Mark Jameson” is your public person over at this site at a cursory glance( I haven’t really look in to the site so take this with a massive grain of salt, especially since there’s no contact info.)

mariokart

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I'm not sure I understand you post.
My point was that the site is keeping the money to themselves.

In most poker sites when someone is banned for collusion, effected players are reimbursed.

Either way, my main point is that as you can see from the email correspondence, the players were banned without looking at play history or handhistories based on very circumstancial and partial evidence, and letting the site get away with this is a dangerous precedent.

One of the issues with a crypto poker site like this is - these guys are holding a lot of money, and can dissappear with it at a moment's notice - and you'd have no address to complain to - because there is no official company or person behind the site.

When this is the situation, they need to be extra careful and clear to do only trustworthy and transparent actions, or trust is gone.

If I'm wrong about this and there is a public company or figure standing behind this site, please let me know.

sowns

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Quote from: mariokart on June 12, 2019, 10:38:16 PM

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because pokerstars has a networth of 4.8billion you can't really compare their security with this sites
wpn is shady to begin with and i doubt they care as long as youre generating rake and not abusing promos, if that's not good enough wpn has wrongly accuses players, so has almost every other gambling based business.
these security systems aren't perfect, but imo i feel better about the site knowing they take security seriously.

You also don't need to be using the same ip for collusion, ((like you said you wasn't))
And they didn't randomly ban just you 2, that happen to know each other, you most likely got reported by players (not that hard to spot) and they reviewed your hand history.
Your post only makes you look more guilty with these claims
You most likely was cheating and now you're both complaining because your funds was frozen.

I wonder why you're assuming the site was ok?
If you watch the video, no handhistories were reviewed and there were a lot of signs that point towards the two players not colluding, but the site did not care, their decision was final and they refused to review further facts.
There were also simply put not enough hands to establish the claims the site made, any poker player would know this but the site's security team do not understand poker.

I feel like at this point this site is more dangerous than the colluders themselves, just confiscating money based on correlations without proof, and refusing to review. Has the money confiscated been redistributed to players? I would bet a lot that the site is keeping all of it.

Tbh, redistributing the money to the other players would probably not change a thing considering the players are still out money. It’d be even worse if it turns out they weren’t actually colluding and weren’t reimbursed. Besides, is that even a thing in the poker community?

mariokart

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because pokerstars has a networth of 4.8billion you can't really compare their security with this sites
wpn is shady to begin with and i doubt they care as long as youre generating rake and not abusing promos, if that's not good enough wpn has wrongly accuses players, so has almost every other gambling based business.
these security systems aren't perfect, but imo i feel better about the site knowing they take security seriously.

You also don't need to be using the same ip for collusion, ((like you said you wasn't))
And they didn't randomly ban just you 2, that happen to know each other, you most likely got reported by players (not that hard to spot) and they reviewed your hand history.
Your post only makes you look more guilty with these claims
You most likely was cheating and now you're both complaining because your funds was frozen.

I wonder why you're assuming the site was ok?
If you watch the video, no handhistories were reviewed and there were a lot of signs that point towards the two players not colluding, but the site did not care, their decision was final and they refused to review further facts.
There were also simply put not enough hands to establish the claims the site made, any poker player would know this but the site's security team do not understand poker.

I feel like at this point this site is more dangerous than the colluders themselves, just confiscating money based on correlations without proof, and refusing to review. Has the money confiscated been redistributed to players? I would bet a lot that the site is keeping all of it.

Vinalians

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Quote from: hizintak on June 12, 2019, 02:35:35 PM

Quote from: XinXan on June 12, 2019, 12:22:47 PM

Quote from: mariokart on June 12, 2019, 04:22:20 AM

Crypto Poker Club seized two players' poker balances and cited collusion as the reason.

Here is a video about the situation including the emails back and forth
https://youtu.be/S_Fjvgf4qhg

The emails from the site seem brutally unfair to me. As the video states, it feels like something either very shady or very stupid is going on here.

Is there a Crypto Poker Club representative who would like to comment?

Hmm, they don't seem that unfair to me, if he was really caught using the same IP and sitting at the same tables at the same time, etc, it looks really guilty to me, of course there is no way for us to know whether that's the case or not unless the casino decides to show proof or the user in question has some counter evidence.

hi
im uri's friend and the other party accused of gaining an unfair edge.
so just to make sure, we are two separate people, were living tens of kilometers apart from each other, so either they have a very faulty ip identification system or something shady is going on.
uri and myself we have played most of our sessions apart from each other.
and even if the claim of same ip and same time of play are correct (which they are not!!!) how is that a proof of any wrongdoing other than playing at the same location at the same time?
we have often played on numerous networks like pokerstars or winning poker network which are far bigger and have far superior security system and have never been accused of any wrongdoing.

because pokerstars has a networth of 4.8billion you can't really compare their security with this sites
wpn is shady to begin with and i doubt they care as long as youre generating rake and not abusing promos, if that's not good enough wpn has wrongly accuses players, so has almost every other gambling based business.
these security systems aren't perfect, but imo i feel better about the site knowing they take security seriously.

You also don't need to be using the same ip for collusion, ((like you said you wasn't))
And they didn't randomly ban just you 2, that happen to know each other, you most likely got reported by players (not that hard to spot) and they reviewed your hand history.
Your post only makes you look more guilty with these claims
You most likely was cheating and now you're both complaining because your funds was frozen.

hizintak

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Quote from: XinXan on June 12, 2019, 12:22:47 PM

Quote from: mariokart on June 12, 2019, 04:22:20 AM

Crypto Poker Club seized two players' poker balances and cited collusion as the reason.

Here is a video about the situation including the emails back and forth
https://youtu.be/S_Fjvgf4qhg

The emails from the site seem brutally unfair to me. As the video states, it feels like something either very shady or very stupid is going on here.

Is there a Crypto Poker Club representative who would like to comment?

Hmm, they don't seem that unfair to me, if he was really caught using the same IP and sitting at the same tables at the same time, etc, it looks really guilty to me, of course there is no way for us to know whether that's the case or not unless the casino decides to show proof or the user in question has some counter evidence.

hi
im uri's friend and the other party accused of gaining an unfair edge.
so just to make sure, we are two separate people, were living tens of kilometers apart from each other, so either they have a very faulty ip identification system or something shady is going on.
uri and myself we have played most of our sessions apart from each other.
and even if the claim of same ip and same time of play are correct (which they are not!!!) how is that a proof of any wrongdoing other than playing at the same location at the same time?
we have often played on numerous networks like pokerstars or winning poker network which are far bigger and have far superior security system and have never been accused of any wrongdoing.

XinXan

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Quote from: mariokart on June 12, 2019, 04:22:20 AM

Crypto Poker Club seized two players' poker balances and cited collusion as the reason.

Here is a video about the situation including the emails back and forth
https://youtu.be/S_Fjvgf4qhg

The emails from the site seem brutally unfair to me. As the video states, it feels like something either very shady or very stupid is going on here.

Is there a Crypto Poker Club representative who would like to comment?

Hmm, they don't seem that unfair to me, if he was really caught using the same IP and sitting at the same tables at the same time, etc, it looks really guilty to me, of course there is no way for us to know whether that's the case or not unless the casino decides to show proof or the user in question has some counter evidence.

mariokart

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Crypto Poker Club seized two players' poker balances and cited collusion as the reason.

Here is a video about the situation including the emails back and forth
https://youtu.be/S_Fjvgf4qhg

The emails from the site seem brutally unfair to me. As the video states, it feels like something either very shady or very stupid is going on here.

Is there a Crypto Poker Club representative who would like to comment?

lyks15

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It is good to know about this features of this site. If that benefits will we all get I think there is no reason why we don't we invest and play. There is a lot of bonus so many investors will be loved to put their investment to this project. But how about your security features? I hope they can improve it also.

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I don’t know why bitcointalk allows this thread to continue and why mods delete my posts and have removed my signature (maybe they are in on the scam?). Let me try and make this as clear as possible.

Player A is a fish. Player A has deposited several times, keeps losing and has lost .1 BTC over time.

Player B is a pro. Player B never had to deposit, won some freerolls and ran that up to .1 BTC in the cash games.

Poker platform says that because player B never deposited, they can’t withdraw. Poker platform has STOLEN .1 BTC from that player.

Period, end of story. These people are thieves. Stay away.

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I have just logged in, I want to first test what is going on there. I have never heard of this poker platform

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