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May 20, 2017, 07:33:26 PM
#74
im a bit new in mining but i have a realy good friend who gives me A LOT of instructions

i have evga sc 1060 for gaming now (using this system on everything, setting and testing up miners etc)
and i have asus 1080ti fe too ...

now 1080ti is mining through skein algo DigiBytes with +-850MH/s or +-1200DGB/day (private miner, undervolged on 75% of tdp, +150core, -300 mems....with common ccminer i have +- 550MH/s) for a 230w total system power consumption (+-180w only vga)

and for ZEC:

i tested only ewbf miner (i think it has best results nad is strongly recomended)
1060 (70% tdp, +140 core, -300 mems, +-90w) +-285sols/s (realy quiet, in case)
EDITED: 1060 (75% tdp, +140 core, +400 mems, +-90w) +-305sol/s (didnt tested with 1080ti yet)
1080ti (70% tdp, +250 core, -300mems, +-180w) +-680sol/s but its very noisy to reduce temps :-D and system with this card will be minning rig ... but still dont know what to buy for a cards, maybe another 1 1080ti + 4x 1070 (have now mb with 3*pcie16 and 3*pcei1x) and 1200 p2 evga psu (i think this will be enough)

... there is not a problem with performance vs power consumption on any 1xxx or 4xx/5xx ... problem is with 24/7 load and possible lifetime reduction of vga compared to their prices ... and this applies specialy for 1080ti .... (IMHO - 1080 is out of mining, 1070 has better perform vs price just like 1080ti and their lowering prices)
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May 20, 2017, 02:50:24 AM
#73

 Hashrates on the 1080s that YiiMP is showing are all WAY low.
 I wonder if they're all running kinda old miner software, or have them tuned WAY THE HECK low for efficiency?


 It's too bad the company that makes the Palit cards avoids marketing their cards in the USA, they seem to have some really good memory on them that make them very nice mining cards compared to most of the cards that are available over here.



ah that's why the palit are not avialable there? too bad they have a fabulous cooling system, like the super jetstream, my memory on them are micron not samsung but maybe they make better micron, i also see in their page that they use 8 phase and not 6 lilke the other, this make the OC more stable
legendary
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May 20, 2017, 02:42:51 AM
#72

 Hashrates on the 1080s that YiiMP is showing are all WAY low.
 I wonder if they're all running kinda old miner software, or have them tuned WAY THE HECK low for efficiency?


 It's too bad the company that makes the Palit cards avoids marketing their cards in the USA, they seem to have some really good memory on them that make them very nice mining cards compared to most of the cards that are available over here.

sr. member
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May 19, 2017, 10:34:09 AM
#71
I almost exclusively use AMD Fury and AMD Pro Duo.  The Pro Duo will do 1000 sols and I can get them to do 920 sols at about 300 watts.  I have used very few Nvidia cards because of the limited coins that could be mined in the past and typically inferior speeds.

I did order the following items to test out.  They arrive tomorrow so I am looking forward to modding them.

5 - Zotac Mini 1070
5 - Zotac 1070
5 - ZOTAC 1080 Ti AMP
2 - Titan Xp

Edited to add:
The Titan Xp's arrive Monday I think




hey waiting for the test results for Zotac Mini 1070
cuz i want to buy one soon its cheapest 1070 version

I have 20 of these, I get 400 Sol/s at 130W power limit. At 100W they do 340 Sol/s

wow thats very close from the normal 1070 any heat problems  ? 80 C @ 400 Sol/s  ?
newbie
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May 17, 2017, 12:55:24 PM
#70
I almost exclusively use AMD Fury and AMD Pro Duo.  The Pro Duo will do 1000 sols and I can get them to do 920 sols at about 300 watts.  I have used very few Nvidia cards because of the limited coins that could be mined in the past and typically inferior speeds.

I did order the following items to test out.  They arrive tomorrow so I am looking forward to modding them.

5 - Zotac Mini 1070
5 - Zotac 1070
5 - ZOTAC 1080 Ti AMP
2 - Titan Xp

Edited to add:
The Titan Xp's arrive Monday I think




hey waiting for the test results for Zotac Mini 1070
cuz i want to buy one soon its cheapest 1070 version

I have 20 of these, I get 400 Sol/s at 130W power limit. At 100W they do 340 Sol/s
sr. member
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May 17, 2017, 09:48:50 AM
#69
hey waiting for the test results for Zotac Mini 1070
cuz i want to buy one soon its cheapest 1070 version

I have three coming, will let you know what happens 
 
will be my first real foray into nvidia mining (besides my main gaming PC with a 1080Ti, which I get 670 sols at 3.25 sols/w)
sr. member
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Merit: 250
May 17, 2017, 05:40:57 AM
#68
I almost exclusively use AMD Fury and AMD Pro Duo.  The Pro Duo will do 1000 sols and I can get them to do 920 sols at about 300 watts.  I have used very few Nvidia cards because of the limited coins that could be mined in the past and typically inferior speeds.

I did order the following items to test out.  They arrive tomorrow so I am looking forward to modding them.

5 - Zotac Mini 1070
5 - Zotac 1070
5 - ZOTAC 1080 Ti AMP
2 - Titan Xp

Edited to add:
The Titan Xp's arrive Monday I think




hey waiting for the test results for Zotac Mini 1070
cuz i want to buy one soon its cheapest 1070 version
sr. member
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May 13, 2017, 04:23:39 PM
#67
480 is completely and entirely inferior for mining zcash. Just go with the 1070.
sr. member
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May 13, 2017, 12:17:34 PM
#66
Getting 440h/s at 1000mhz clock on a Fury (undervolted), only cost £200, pretty much the same price as a RX480 yet getting double the hashrate, at full pelt 1125 clock I can hit near 500h/s

yes but the 480 consume less i bet you are consuming 150-200watt at least to have that speed, if you have low electricity cost can be ok, otherwise not i spend more but have better efficiency
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May 13, 2017, 12:06:48 PM
#65
Guys i just do not understand, why people are saying, that 1080 TI ist good for mining. Correct me if I  am wrong, but:

1080 TI costs about 800 EUR.
You get a used GTX 1070 from 360 to 400 EUR


1080 TI does 600 sols
we need also 1,5 x 1070 to have 600 sols, because 1 gtx 1070 produces about 400 sols

With this performance, the undeclocked 1080 ti consumes 160 Watt
for the same performance 1,5 1070 about 140 + 70 = 210 Watt

so the difference is 50 Watt an hour, that makes 1200 Watt a day, which is depending on the electricity costs (let's take 0,12 EUR for our example) about 14 cents a day,
which makes in month 5 EUR.

So the for the same performance the price difference is 800 - (400 +200) = 200 EUR
that is about 40 month... just to pay for the price difference...  !?!?


Hi thespycry,
 Here are some numbers to go through.

The price of 1080Ti founders edition is $699.99 & 1070 is $400

1080Ti out of the box does about 690h/s for the power draw of 250w
1070 out of the box does about 400h/s(I don't have one so used your number)

To get 690h/s you need 1.72 1070 GPUs

Now for power

1080 Ti                    = 250 * 24 = 6000w = 6kw
1070                        = 140 * 24 = 3360w = 3.36kw
1070 Adj for 690h/s =  240.8 * 24 = 5779.2 = 5.77kw

ZEC Production

1080 Ti    = 0.0571/day Approx(whattomine data)
1070       = 0.0348/day Approx(whattomine data)
1070 ADj = 0.0571/day Approx(whattomine data)

So in a day with ZEC @ $107/coin it is possible to make

1080 Ti = 6.1097- 0.84(power)      = 5.2697
1070    = 3.7236 - 0.4032(power) = 3.3204
1070 Adj = 6.1097 - 0.6924(power) = 5.4173

To get 1080Ti's level of earning(20 cent more) you will be spending $688 instead of $699.99 for 1080Ti a difference of $11.99

Now this is based on the assumption that 1070 will do 400h/s for 140w if not then I don't think 1070 is that efficient.

Hope this helps, If I made any mistake please let me know.

Regards,
BLife



I bought 4x Palit GeForce GTX 1070 1632Mhz PCI-E 3.0 8192Mb 8000Mhz for 491 USD

with -40% limit (100 watt GPU), 90 core, 670 memory im having  445 sol.

Is it good deal?


It is quite fast.
sr. member
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May 10, 2017, 08:55:16 PM
#64
Guys i just do not understand, why people are saying, that 1080 TI ist good for mining. Correct me if I  am wrong, but:

1080 TI costs about 800 EUR.
You get a used GTX 1070 from 360 to 400 EUR


1080 TI does 600 sols
we need also 1,5 x 1070 to have 600 sols, because 1 gtx 1070 produces about 400 sols

With this performance, the undeclocked 1080 ti consumes 160 Watt
for the same performance 1,5 1070 about 140 + 70 = 210 Watt

so the difference is 50 Watt an hour, that makes 1200 Watt a day, which is depending on the electricity costs (let's take 0,12 EUR for our example) about 14 cents a day,
which makes in month 5 EUR.

So the for the same performance the price difference is 800 - (400 +200) = 200 EUR
that is about 40 month... just to pay for the price difference...  !?!?


Hi thespycry,
 Here are some numbers to go through.

The price of 1080Ti founders edition is $699.99 & 1070 is $400

1080Ti out of the box does about 690h/s for the power draw of 250w
1070 out of the box does about 400h/s(I don't have one so used your number)

To get 690h/s you need 1.72 1070 GPUs

Now for power

1080 Ti                    = 250 * 24 = 6000w = 6kw
1070                        = 140 * 24 = 3360w = 3.36kw
1070 Adj for 690h/s =  240.8 * 24 = 5779.2 = 5.77kw

ZEC Production

1080 Ti    = 0.0571/day Approx(whattomine data)
1070       = 0.0348/day Approx(whattomine data)
1070 ADj = 0.0571/day Approx(whattomine data)

So in a day with ZEC @ $107/coin it is possible to make

1080 Ti = 6.1097- 0.84(power)      = 5.2697
1070    = 3.7236 - 0.4032(power) = 3.3204
1070 Adj = 6.1097 - 0.6924(power) = 5.4173

To get 1080Ti's level of earning(20 cent more) you will be spending $688 instead of $699.99 for 1080Ti a difference of $11.99

Now this is based on the assumption that 1070 will do 400h/s for 140w if not then I don't think 1070 is that efficient.

Hope this helps, If I made any mistake please let me know.

Regards,
BLife



I bought 4x Palit GeForce GTX 1070 1632Mhz PCI-E 3.0 8192Mb 8000Mhz for 491 USD

with -40% limit (100 watt GPU), 90 core, 670 memory im having  445 sol.

Is it good deal?
sr. member
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May 10, 2017, 03:28:31 PM
#63
I am getting about 2800 h/s or so on a 6 card rig with 1070's. They are the clear favorite as far as I am concerned.
newbie
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May 10, 2017, 03:04:54 PM
#62
Getting 440h/s at 1000mhz clock on a Fury (undervolted), only cost £200, pretty much the same price as a RX480 yet getting double the hashrate, at full pelt 1125 clock I can hit near 500h/s
newbie
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May 09, 2017, 09:55:47 PM
#61
I just started gpu mining 3 weeks ago . Getting the right gpu is really headache.

I started with mining eth using the following ridge
1) 4 x rx470 will add two or three more gpu
2) 7 x gtx1070


I am thinking of switching the gtx1070 into scabs but I still unsure which miner to use.
sr. member
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May 09, 2017, 07:13:00 PM
#60
well i plan to build a 6x (or 7x gpu if possible - but i think its not with nvidia?) mining rig with gtx 1080 ti cards. if you can recommend me a motherboard, psu and cpu for it, it would be awesome.

thanks in advance

These motherboards go out of stock pretty quickly, so grab one now if you're sure you want to build a rig.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138436&cm_re=biostar_tb85-_-13-138-436-_-Product

If you want to do 6 GTX 1080 Ti with a single PSU you need this or something with the same specs and connectors.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438033&cm_re=evga_1600_watt-_-17-438-033-_-Product

Any socket 1150 Intel CPU will work for mining, even the cheapest Celeron. If you want to use the rig for office work, web browsing, streaming video/music while it mines then I suggest an i3 from that generation.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=-1&IsNodeId=1&Description=lga%201150%20cpu&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=36




Would the (240v)2400w delta power supply from Paralellminer be a cheaper alternative to the 1600w EVGA for a 6 card 1080ti setup??


It would definitely be cheaper as long as you have 240v to power it. $109 vs $330 for an EVGA 1600 watt PSU. YOu would still need another ATX PSU to power your risers, motherboard, CPU etc, but you can get one of those for $50-70.

http://www.parallelminer.com/product/2400-watt-power-supply-kit-for-gpu-mining-94-efficiency-200-240v-ethereum-eth-zec-dash/
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May 09, 2017, 05:37:24 PM
#59
as i said AT THE MOMENT OF WRITING , stongest card providing HIGHER HASH RATE (no matter the power consumption)  is RADEON PRO DUO ... 900 to 1100 hashes /s  depending on the oc you apply ... of course the higher the hash rates the more inefficient it is... at 900 hashes is a bit less efficient than nvidia cards (4.5 w for each hash)
Per that number the TI only uses 156 w per hash?

The 1080 Ti can be set to do ~600 sols at ~150-155 watts. About 3.9 hash per watt ratio. You can get it up around 700 sols or higher but it will use the full 250 watts and beyond, making it very inefficient if you run it that way.

so running 6x 1080ti should be possible with a 1200W psu?

Just let you know it may be not that easy to get 6 cards working smoothly, there could be small issues here an there. I right now have 2X 1080TI FE + 1X 1070 on board, I could only start the miner first then EVGA OC software. If I do it the other way, miner will be freezing. In my case, I got 1080 ti up to 740 hashes before I cut its TDP limit to 80%, so definitely for a short while it eats up to 250W. Another stupid thing I could not explain is Nicehash is quite unstable with one of my rigs (I have two sets of 2X1080Ti+1X1070 on the same motherboards).

Better to find some one here with success then you exactly copy what they did (especially get the identical motherboard/OS)
that's a really good point . . these problems remind me of car problems . . massive headache! currently thinking of simply trying to add another SAPPHIRE Vapor-X Radeon R9 280X DirectX 12 100363VX-3L 3GB onto the rig that already has 5 of them and call it a day if I can get that running smoothly
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May 09, 2017, 04:53:15 PM
#58
as i said AT THE MOMENT OF WRITING , stongest card providing HIGHER HASH RATE (no matter the power consumption)  is RADEON PRO DUO ... 900 to 1100 hashes /s  depending on the oc you apply ... of course the higher the hash rates the more inefficient it is... at 900 hashes is a bit less efficient than nvidia cards (4.5 w for each hash)
Per that number the TI only uses 156 w per hash?

The 1080 Ti can be set to do ~600 sols at ~150-155 watts. About 3.9 hash per watt ratio. You can get it up around 700 sols or higher but it will use the full 250 watts and beyond, making it very inefficient if you run it that way.

so running 6x 1080ti should be possible with a 1200W psu?

Just let you know it may be not that easy to get 6 cards working smoothly, there could be small issues here an there. I right now have 2X 1080TI FE + 1X 1070 on board, I could only start the miner first then EVGA OC software. If I do it the other way, miner will be freezing. In my case, I got 1080 ti up to 740 hashes before I cut its TDP limit to 80%, so definitely for a short while it eats up to 250W. Another stupid thing I could not explain is Nicehash is quite unstable with one of my rigs (I have two sets of 2X1080Ti+1X1070 on the same motherboards).

Better to find some one here with success then you exactly copy what they did (especially get the identical motherboard/OS)
hero member
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May 09, 2017, 04:35:50 PM
#57
Add2PSU is  just a relay to daisy chains the PSU's so they start at the same time. The same can be done by jump starting the PSU with a piece of thin metal between the green wire and a black wire on the slave PSU and then turning on the switch on the back before starting the computer.

https://forum.overclock3d.net/showpost.php?s=3c0b5ead1c29a7c47c0e8fceb274ecf8&p=3815&postcount=1

Or using an automotive relay:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDArticles&op=Story&ndar_id=27

You could also connect the two green wires on the PSU's and they will both start at the same time as long as they share the same ground.

The bigger question is when using powered risers is it safer to have the cards powered by the second PSU to also power the riser on the card. Some with experience in the matter claim you should just connect the second PSU to the PCI-E  power connector on the card and have the first PSU power all the risers:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17827649

In researching, i've heards arguments for both without a definitive answer.

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May 09, 2017, 03:56:26 AM
#56
well i plan to build a 6x (or 7x gpu if possible - but i think its not with nvidia?) mining rig with gtx 1080 ti cards. if you can recommend me a motherboard, psu and cpu for it, it would be awesome.

thanks in advance

These motherboards go out of stock pretty quickly, so grab one now if you're sure you want to build a rig.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138436&cm_re=biostar_tb85-_-13-138-436-_-Product

If you want to do 6 GTX 1080 Ti with a single PSU you need this or something with the same specs and connectors.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438033&cm_re=evga_1600_watt-_-17-438-033-_-Product

Any socket 1150 Intel CPU will work for mining, even the cheapest Celeron. If you want to use the rig for office work, web browsing, streaming video/music while it mines then I suggest an i3 from that generation.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=-1&IsNodeId=1&Description=lga%201150%20cpu&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=36



Would the (240v)2400w delta power supply from Paralellminer be a cheaper alternative to the 1600w EVGA for a 6 card 1080ti setup??



When having a rig that need huge amount of power, i have learned the hard way that is kind of better to go with 2 power supplies.
It's cheaper and when one goes bad you "limp" away with half a rig and still make money till you fix it instead of totally blacking out.
It's also usually cheaper in total price.
It's easy and 100% safe when done right (i use add2psu to connect 2)

Good luck.
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May 09, 2017, 03:30:49 AM
#55
well i plan to build a 6x (or 7x gpu if possible - but i think its not with nvidia?) mining rig with gtx 1080 ti cards. if you can recommend me a motherboard, psu and cpu for it, it would be awesome.

thanks in advance

These motherboards go out of stock pretty quickly, so grab one now if you're sure you want to build a rig.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138436&cm_re=biostar_tb85-_-13-138-436-_-Product

If you want to do 6 GTX 1080 Ti with a single PSU you need this or something with the same specs and connectors.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438033&cm_re=evga_1600_watt-_-17-438-033-_-Product

Any socket 1150 Intel CPU will work for mining, even the cheapest Celeron. If you want to use the rig for office work, web browsing, streaming video/music while it mines then I suggest an i3 from that generation.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=-1&IsNodeId=1&Description=lga%201150%20cpu&bop=And&Order=PRICE&PageSize=36



Would the (240v)2400w delta power supply from Paralellminer be a cheaper alternative to the 1600w EVGA for a 6 card 1080ti setup??
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