Best investment place? Mining or Investing or Trading?

SavellM

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Quote from: notlist3d on June 21, 2015, 07:29:16 AM

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Quote from: b-trading on June 17, 2015, 12:21:28 PM

Just go for trading as it is simple Buy Low Sell High..Just wait for the correct time when to buy and when to sell

Quote from: ikydesu on June 17, 2015, 12:01:48 PM

You can use indicator as tools for your technical analysis.

So with what indicators do you trade? There often enough is a "correct time"... at least you think... and shortly after it shows you that you thought the wrong way. So care to explain what indicators and entry points you look for?

My Tips for indicator trade is good news and bad news

also i use more reference like newsbtc for some analys coinigy is good too

I learned that good news do nothing to the price, no push, and bad news make bitcoin drop hard often enough. Seems not so very trustworthy.

And on these websites, do you read their analysis or what do you go for?

It try to not focus on price alone. Since I am in it long term sure I want enough to keep paying my electricity costs. But my overall goal is to gain more BTC. I mine with this as my goal to continue to earn more BTC over the price of running costs.

So far this goal works very well. I don't worry as much about day to day just watch the BTC grow in my accounts. I do admit I keep a pretty good spreadsheet that I track each miner and BTC profits vs electricity price so I do not lose money running and it's by miner and overall.

Would you mind sharing your spreadsheet so I can use it for mine?
Maybe Google docs?

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Quote from: SebastianJu on June 20, 2015, 06:32:23 AM

Quote from: Btree on June 19, 2015, 05:15:06 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on June 19, 2015, 11:00:54 AM

Quote from: b-trading on June 17, 2015, 12:21:28 PM

Just go for trading as it is simple Buy Low Sell High..Just wait for the correct time when to buy and when to sell

Quote from: ikydesu on June 17, 2015, 12:01:48 PM

You can use indicator as tools for your technical analysis.

So with what indicators do you trade? There often enough is a "correct time"... at least you think... and shortly after it shows you that you thought the wrong way. So care to explain what indicators and entry points you look for?

My Tips for indicator trade is good news and bad news

also i use more reference like newsbtc for some analys coinigy is good too

I learned that good news do nothing to the price, no push, and bad news make bitcoin drop hard often enough. Seems not so very trustworthy.

And on these websites, do you read their analysis or what do you go for?

It try to not focus on price alone. Since I am in it long term sure I want enough to keep paying my electricity costs. But my overall goal is to gain more BTC. I mine with this as my goal to continue to earn more BTC over the price of running costs.

So far this goal works very well. I don't worry as much about day to day just watch the BTC grow in my accounts. I do admit I keep a pretty good spreadsheet that I track each miner and BTC profits vs electricity price so I do not lose money running and it's by miner and overall.

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Quote from: Btree on June 19, 2015, 05:15:06 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on June 19, 2015, 11:00:54 AM

Quote from: b-trading on June 17, 2015, 12:21:28 PM

Just go for trading as it is simple Buy Low Sell High..Just wait for the correct time when to buy and when to sell

Quote from: ikydesu on June 17, 2015, 12:01:48 PM

You can use indicator as tools for your technical analysis.

So with what indicators do you trade? There often enough is a "correct time"... at least you think... and shortly after it shows you that you thought the wrong way. So care to explain what indicators and entry points you look for?

My Tips for indicator trade is good news and bad news

also i use more reference like newsbtc for some analys coinigy is good too

I learned that good news do nothing to the price, no push, and bad news make bitcoin drop hard often enough. Seems not so very trustworthy.

And on these websites, do you read their analysis or what do you go for?

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bitcoin é uma árvore que vai continuar a crescer

Quote from: SebastianJu on June 19, 2015, 11:00:54 AM

Quote from: b-trading on June 17, 2015, 12:21:28 PM

Just go for trading as it is simple Buy Low Sell High..Just wait for the correct time when to buy and when to sell

Quote from: ikydesu on June 17, 2015, 12:01:48 PM

You can use indicator as tools for your technical analysis.

So with what indicators do you trade? There often enough is a "correct time"... at least you think... and shortly after it shows you that you thought the wrong way. So care to explain what indicators and entry points you look for?

My Tips for indicator trade is good news and bad news

also i use more reference like newsbtc for some analys coinigy is good too

SebastianJu

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Quote from: SavellM on June 19, 2015, 10:55:19 AM

Quote from: SebastianJu on June 19, 2015, 10:51:30 AM

Quote from: ikydesu on June 17, 2015, 01:15:40 AM

I personally choose trading. But now i choose do nothing Cheesy

(i need more learning about trading).

Quote from: SavellM on June 16, 2015, 06:10:20 PM

What wait haoBTC?

Could put my btc in there and earn 12% interest?

Looks like promising, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-haobtc-launches-fixed-term-deposit-account-1085039

~iki

Looks like 12% annual return. So its similar to dice sites like it was with just-dice.com when they still used bitcoins.

Though i think its risky. They dont tell where the profit should come from, am i right? And they show 15% return on the picture. As long as there is no clear plan about where the profit comes from and why they need investment, where they invest it in and so on... i think its risky and not so very much rewarding.

Its 12% (for over 10btc deposit) and rises by 1% per month till around 16% at the end of the year.
Its not worth it for me.
They also get their payments from mining, they have a big farm in Chine you can read all about it.
Its very open and lots of pics which is encouraging.

From mining? Rising profits? Thats something new and sounds risky in itself. Mining business is hard and they promise practically fixed returns.

And promises in the mining area, coming from mining companies... thats a whole story for itself... Cheesy

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Quote from: b-trading on June 17, 2015, 12:21:28 PM

Just go for trading as it is simple Buy Low Sell High..Just wait for the correct time when to buy and when to sell

Quote from: ikydesu on June 17, 2015, 12:01:48 PM

You can use indicator as tools for your technical analysis.

So with what indicators do you trade? There often enough is a "correct time"... at least you think... and shortly after it shows you that you thought the wrong way. So care to explain what indicators and entry points you look for?

SebastianJu

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Quote from: SavellM on June 18, 2015, 03:17:55 AM

Im not 100% sure what I am going to do yet.

I havent really looked into Sig Campaigns.

Signature campaigns arent for you. At least not when you think about investing 40BTC. They are only payment for posting while wearing a signature with an advertisement. See my signature, its the best paying one that is no scam so far.

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Quote from: SebastianJu on June 19, 2015, 10:44:14 AM

Quote from: Btree on June 16, 2015, 07:27:20 PM

Quote from: SavellM on June 16, 2015, 03:20:42 PM

Hey guys.

So lets say I have 40btc.
My aim is this... I want a 2nd income to pay off debts.

Where would be the best place to get some good returns?

I'm currently in Scrypt.cc and making 17.5btc per month.
This is a GREAT 2nd salary and goes towards my paying off debt.
BUT I am a bit worried and skeptical of them and want to move my 40btc elsewhere somewhere more safe.

I currently have 5x AntMiner S5's over at Hashnest but daily output is sooooo small.
I could put the 40btc in and buy another 25x S5's but that only nets me around 6btc per month without difficulty increases.

I have dabbled with trading (didn't go so well for me), I also have some bots like CAT (Cryptsy api), and Haasbot.
But I cant seem to get my trading right or for it to be profitable enough.

So that is why I'm coming to you guys.

Where would be a great place to put 40btc to earn me some good cash per week/month.

with 40btc you can join whlaes club and let's rock with BTC-USD trading

that better you lost your money in ponzi site like scrypt cc

Did you trade with them? I only see them posting random, and often contradicting, technical analysis on their blog. So i really wonder if someone, who follows them, somehow, will make a relatively sure profit.

Maybe you need to know certain protagonists that know how to interprete charts. Do you have a tip then? Send me a pm if you have...

Are you referring to https://www.whaleclub.co/?
Cause I dont really see how they can help me with profit?!

SavellM

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Quote from: SebastianJu on June 19, 2015, 10:51:30 AM

Quote from: ikydesu on June 17, 2015, 01:15:40 AM

I personally choose trading. But now i choose do nothing Cheesy

(i need more learning about trading).

Quote from: SavellM on June 16, 2015, 06:10:20 PM

What wait haoBTC?

Could put my btc in there and earn 12% interest?

Looks like promising, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-haobtc-launches-fixed-term-deposit-account-1085039

~iki

Looks like 12% annual return. So its similar to dice sites like it was with just-dice.com when they still used bitcoins.

Though i think its risky. They dont tell where the profit should come from, am i right? And they show 15% return on the picture. As long as there is no clear plan about where the profit comes from and why they need investment, where they invest it in and so on... i think its risky and not so very much rewarding.

Its 12% (for over 10btc deposit) and rises by 1% per month till around 16% at the end of the year.
Its not worth it for me.
They also get their payments from mining, they have a big farm in Chine you can read all about it.
Its very open and lots of pics which is encouraging.

SebastianJu

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Quote from: ikydesu on June 17, 2015, 01:15:40 AM

I personally choose trading. But now i choose do nothing Cheesy

(i need more learning about trading).

Quote from: SavellM on June 16, 2015, 06:10:20 PM

What wait haoBTC?

Could put my btc in there and earn 12% interest?

Looks like promising, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-haobtc-launches-fixed-term-deposit-account-1085039

~iki

Looks like 12% annual return. So its similar to dice sites like it was with just-dice.com when they still used bitcoins.

Though i think its risky. They dont tell where the profit should come from, am i right? And they show 15% return on the picture. As long as there is no clear plan about where the profit comes from and why they need investment, where they invest it in and so on... i think its risky and not so very much rewarding.

SebastianJu

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Quote from: Btree on June 16, 2015, 07:27:20 PM

Quote from: SavellM on June 16, 2015, 03:20:42 PM

Hey guys.

So lets say I have 40btc.
My aim is this... I want a 2nd income to pay off debts.

Where would be the best place to get some good returns?

I'm currently in Scrypt.cc and making 17.5btc per month.
This is a GREAT 2nd salary and goes towards my paying off debt.
BUT I am a bit worried and skeptical of them and want to move my 40btc elsewhere somewhere more safe.

I currently have 5x AntMiner S5's over at Hashnest but daily output is sooooo small.
I could put the 40btc in and buy another 25x S5's but that only nets me around 6btc per month without difficulty increases.

I have dabbled with trading (didn't go so well for me), I also have some bots like CAT (Cryptsy api), and Haasbot.
But I cant seem to get my trading right or for it to be profitable enough.

So that is why I'm coming to you guys.

Where would be a great place to put 40btc to earn me some good cash per week/month.

with 40btc you can join whlaes club and let's rock with BTC-USD trading

that better you lost your money in ponzi site like scrypt cc

Did you trade with them? I only see them posting random, and often contradicting, technical analysis on their blog. So i really wonder if someone, who follows them, somehow, will make a relatively sure profit.

Maybe you need to know certain protagonists that know how to interprete charts. Do you have a tip then? Send me a pm if you have...

Herbert2020

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i think right now the best way is to just keep them in cold storage to profit later on from the price rise.
but now you can work on your trading skills (as you say you have done before), you can improve yourself and eventually start earning more and more.

andulolika

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Staking clams is a pretty good investment at medium-long term, probably you already have clams.

SavellM

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Quote from: SavellM on June 18, 2015, 08:37:08 AM

Bloody Vod and his self righteous mission...

Sigh

I guess Vod had some valid concerns. The default rate on BTCJam is ridiculously high and most people would just blindly invest. You should talk to him about this issue and prove that you aren't a scammer. But the fact that you have broken your promise doesn't seem trustworthy to me. No offense, there may be a different side to the story.

Yeah I dont want to get into that whole debacle again.
I and other kicked up so much of a stink it seems he is taking a break from the forums.

As such he is no longer around to look at my rep and don't think he would ever change.

And I have proved I was trustworthy by paying back all my loans and on time (beforehand even).

Anyhoo that is a totally different discussion.

iram66680

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Quote from: SavellM on June 18, 2015, 08:37:08 AM

Bloody Vod and his self righteous mission...

Sigh

I guess Vod had some valid concerns. The default rate on BTCJam is ridiculously high and most people would just blindly invest. You should talk to him about this issue and prove that you aren't a scammer. But the fact that you have broken your promise doesn't seem trustworthy to me. No offense, there may be a different side to the story.

SavellM

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Bloody Vod and his self righteous mission...

Sigh

Btree

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bitcoin é uma árvore que vai continuar a crescer

Quote from: SavellM on June 18, 2015, 03:17:55 AM

Im not 100% sure what I am going to do yet.

I havent really looked into Sig Campaigns.

Because you have negative trust, and no sign campaign accept user with negative trust

iram66680

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How about become investor in gambling sites Roll Eyes

You could earn big profit from there, but you should trust that site

There's no such thing as big profit. It is impossible to actually earn a big profit in dice sites. You are more likely to be getting very little profit or a whale will wipe a part of your profits off. If you wanna try, convert your BTC to clam coins and invest in just-dice.com the owner is trusted and well known. The only risk is the volatility of the coin.

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How about become investor in gambling sites Roll Eyes

You could earn big profit from there, but you should trust that site

whether we can withdraw at any time if invest in site dice?
is there any suggestion from you, the site has good trust?

SavellM

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Im not 100% sure what I am going to do yet.

I havent really looked into Sig Campaigns.

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