[BET] Trump or Harris 2024, Poker Player vs suchmoon - page 2.

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Quote from: eristica.com on November 06, 2024, 08:14:53 AM

Congratulations to all Kamala supporters. You won't have to see her lie to you for the next 4 years.

Of course, if you know what I mean, considering her recent fake phone conversation.

Haha all politicians lie, like it’s what they’re built for, but you just gotta now how to place those lies so it sounds believable and you don’t get caught, and even when you’re caught, you gotta know how to defend yourself. Even Donald Trump must’ve equally told some lies during his campaigns and propaganda Cheesy

so it’s not something’s that’s new anymore if you know what I’m saying.

Congrats to Trump but not like we’re actually expecting him to fulfill all the promises he made when/if he eventually wins, but I’m actually glad he did, for some reasons.

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Congratulations to all Kamala supporters. You won't have to see her lie to you for the next 4 years.

Of course, if you know what I mean, considering her recent fake phone conversation.

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Quote from: suchmoon on November 06, 2024, 06:08:11 AM

Congratulations Poker Player!

I don't see any reason to wait for the electoral college meetings and all that nonsense... payment has been sent:

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Quote from: Hispo on November 06, 2024, 05:13:08 AM

Am I the only one who is worried on how the bar for the presidency of the United States has been severely lowered because of this guy? Suddenly, it has become politically correct for a convicted felon and person under both federal and state investigation to be the president of the same nation which is prosecuting him.

Careful now, he will have all that removed and reversed, and everyone who said bad things about him will be jailed or forced into a migrant fighting league.

I mean this shitshow will be funny AF to watch unfold right until it starts having actual (and most likely negative) effect on people's lives.

There are so many things that are concerning about Trumps victory that I can only begin the count:

- Nuclear deterrence in question. Military deterrence in Europe in question.
- SCOTUS ruling early in the year gives nearly unlimited - prosecution free - ability to commit crime.
- Nationwide ban or draconian legislation on reproductive rights is now possible.
- Someone can be a felon and President - within months of each other.
- Someone with a civil conviction for rape can be President.
- Someone who orders a march on the Capitol can be President (and do not respond for it).

Trump brings plenty of risk so exchanging that for a better crypto outlook is not such a great idea. I do not see a big state as a problem. Big states are required to take on big challenges.

I want to see what kind of deal will Trump impose on Ukraine. This will have effects beyond his presidency.

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Congratulations Poker Player!

I don't see any reason to wait for the electoral college meetings and all that nonsense... payment has been sent:

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Quote from: Hispo on November 06, 2024, 05:13:08 AM

Am I the only one who is worried on how the bar for the presidency of the United States has been severely lowered because of this guy? Suddenly, it has become politically correct for a convicted felon and person under both federal and state investigation to be the president of the same nation which is prosecuting him.

Careful now, he will have all that removed and reversed, and everyone who said bad things about him will be jailed or forced into a migrant fighting league.

I mean this shitshow will be funny AF to watch unfold right until it starts having actual (and most likely negative) effect on people's lives.

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Quote from: paxmao on November 05, 2024, 06:34:15 PM

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I start from the idea the American establishment did not want him to run for president from the beginning of his first presidential campaign and most of media made fun of him, even Fox; so he is definitely not part of what I would have called the common establishment, otherwise he would have been accepted easily among the ranks of the Republican politicians at the time, he has only continued to be politically relevant because he has forced to party to pay attention to him, by captivating the willing and power of the vote, from the common Republican voters who got radicalized.
He has forced the establishment to co-existing within, for now (the Republican establishment) and the democrat establishment tried to oust him from this race since he started to show actual intentions to seek for a second term. Both establishments hate him, one secretly and one openly and with no shame about it.

These are going to be very weird years under a second administration of Trump, one must wonder who much he will go out his way to try to hurt the establishment as we know it, specially the Republican establishment.

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Am I the only one who is worried on how the bar for the presidency of the United States has been severely lowered because of this guy? Suddenly, it has become politically correct for a convicted felon and person under both federal and state investigation to be the president of the same nation which is prosecuting him.
Would not this mean the quality for future presidents could be even way lower then Trump's?
In previous elections, doing a fraction of what Trump has done would have been considered to be enough to disqualify him from being a viable candidate, let alone the elected president, now things have changed for the worse.

How long until we have got another felon as president of the United States?

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Quote from: theymos on November 06, 2024, 04:14:38 AM

How about we make the federal government smaller and less important so that people like Trump can't take it over and do things you hate?

That is exactly what D.O.G.E is intended to do. Although it's too late for that now that Republicans control literally every part of the government now.

The only thing I don't like about it is that nobody has actually tried doing this before, so it could work, but there is also a huge chance of an executive error damaging the government in the process. (And there will be many of them, if X/Twitter is anything to go by.)

I am disappointed with this election result, even though with big bags, and not having anything to lose in a second Trump term, I'm supposed to be happy - I guess it's because most of my countryfolks are inevitably going to lose many of their rights and benefits.

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Quote from: theymos on November 06, 2024, 04:14:38 AM

I'm not shocked by this outcome, but Republicans definitely did better than I expected. Congrats Poker Player on the bet.

Trump's first term was really pretty good, so hopefully his second term is like that or better, and the many risks I'm worried about with him don't come to pass. With Sherrod Brown losing in Ohio, it was a great night for crypto overall.

Probably the best thing about Trump winning is that Democrats might regain some of the skepticism of government that they've occasionally had throughout their history, instead of viewing government as the solution to every problem. How about we make the federal government smaller and less important so that people like Trump can't take it over and do things you hate?

I cannot agree with the appraisal about the previous Trump mandate.

But I am ok with a range of possible policies. I do consider that if Trumps effectively implements some of the ones he has mentioned it will not leave the US in a stronger position, will make US traditional allies very nervous and has risks that are not that acceptable. Exchanging that for a better outlook for crypto is not enough. But ... it is politics, is part of the usual game.

I am concerned however that the way this campaign has been managed becomes the norm.

Re Federal Government reduction, well, again, would have to judge on results, my guess is that there will be "replacement".

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I'm not shocked by this outcome, but Republicans definitely did better than I expected. Congrats Poker Player on the bet.

Trump's first term was really pretty good, so hopefully his second term is like that or better, and the many risks I'm worried about with him don't come to pass. With Sherrod Brown losing in Ohio, it was a great night for crypto overall.

Probably the best thing about Trump winning is that Democrats might regain some of the skepticism of government that they've occasionally had throughout their history, instead of viewing government as the solution to every problem. How about we make the federal government smaller and less important so that people like Trump can't take it over and do things you hate?

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Well played suchmoon.

We now have to wait until all this Trump supporters come out of the party high and start digesting the fact that the world has to live with 78 year old to be 82 if he effectively leaves office in 4 years, not really stable individual as POTUS. And the Senate is now Republican as well, as some candidates have changed seats and Reps like Cruz have managed to keep their seats.

My take on this is that after hopefully no more than four years of a Rep Senate and a Trump presidency many will simply get tired of the rhetoric and start looking at results.

Meanwhile, while I do not like the result, I am going to adapt my investing, living and posting strategies to it. Like in lawyers with law, the only people profiting from politics are politicians.

dumBAss et all, congratulations for the party and best luck digesting the 6 pound hamburger you ordered, because you cannot give it back.

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Quote from: Poker Player on November 05, 2024, 11:55:22 PM

What I am saying is that no electoral system is perfect, the weighed ones are not and the absolutely proportional ones are not either.

Definitely no modern day electoral system is perfect and just can't be anywhere but if am to compare the electoral system of the US to that of my own country I'll very much appreciate the US system the more in terms of the level of transparency, somewhat fairness in the entire process by the electoral body. Something we are yet to see to experience in democracies like ours.

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How do you guys see the result? It smells more and more like a Trump victory, and the market seems to have taken it that way.

In my opinion, the results were as anticipated, a Trump's victory now turned reality.
Congratulations on your bet won.

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Great job, Poker Player, winning the bet requires balls of steel to participate in such a bet; 0.01 BTC is a huge amount of money on a single bet; I couldn't bring myself to do it, even if I was confident about the result. Personally, I wasn't surprised that Trump has won again; even though the incidents in the Capitol in 2021 were disturbing, he still managed to win and even mentioned in one of his speeches that his voters aren't violent; well, 2021 said otherwise.

We'll see how he manages and if he keeps his pre-election promises, especially stopping the Russian-Ukrainian war he claimed.

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Communist freaks lost. Thanks god. Now wipe these retards off the planet. Go trump!

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The rapist felon won the election. Congratulations Poker Player on your win.

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Quote from: paxmao on November 05, 2024, 03:07:09 PM

On the British one, the imbalances are not massive.

You could argue the opposite, since the most voted wins the seat of the constituency and the other votes of that constituency become worth 0. What I am saying is that no electoral system is perfect, the weighed ones are not and the absolutely proportional ones are not either.

How do you guys see the result? It smells more and more like a Trump victory, and the market seems to have taken it that way.

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Quote from: NotATether on November 05, 2024, 01:43:51 PM

Congratulations on having the balls to place such a bet, suchmoon. I could never bring myself to place such a wager even if I was so sure about the election result.

Fuck... this is why I don't bet on elections.

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This bet is silly, it doesn't matter who wins the presidency, the real winners will be the same regardless. The faceless, unelected, deepstate, i.e. Israel, the CIA, and AIPAC.

Quote from: TwitchySeal on November 04, 2024, 02:54:20 PM

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There real reason for the electoral college; in the olden days the fed.gov was much smaller and had very little influence on Americans' daily lives. States had much more power, and the fear was the states with a larger population could dominate the federal governmental process. It's not a democracy, and it was never intended to be. It's a representative republic with democratically elected representatives.

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Quote from: Hispo on November 05, 2024, 05:10:02 PM

Quote from: BADecker on November 05, 2024, 02:34:45 PM

Quote from: Sender78 on November 05, 2024, 06:09:05 AM

Trump will win and he will lead America to glory, not to communism, as Harris wants to do

And as she has been doing with the Dem Deep State leaders for years. Anybody who wants a touch of understanding of how this all works, watch...

DR Lee Merritt and Dr Bryan Ardis - https://www.bitchute.com/video/KDeYswPUyRVc

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It is not the deep state, it is the establishment and the politicians who are part of it which want the country to continue going through status quo. Republican party used to belong to the establishment but Donald Trump has a deviation of that trend, leading to most Republican politicians to hate the establishment as much as the common people do. Worth pointing out how most of democrats in Washington are still part of the establishment.
Though, it is silly to talk about communism when the Washington stablishment is completely pro-capitalism and has the backing of big business and companies worth billions of dollars in market capitalization. Companies and business backing communism? It does not make sense to me.

What Trump really would love to do is destroying establishment to establish himself as the new pattern of politics within the United States in years to come, but this is not a battle between communists and capitalists, this is a political battle between capitalist in a global view of business and capitalists who embrace national isolation.

How is Donald not part of the establishment. Family fortune made in an industry (construction) in a estate New York that is probably the place you need to be in the establishment and know everyone to even lay a brick?

The deep state myth has been another of his lame excuses to try to prevent perfectly normal people from doing their jobs when those jobs were about to stop Trump from either breaking the law of doing something really sucidal.

Quote from: suchmoon on November 05, 2024, 03:36:56 PM

Quote from: paxmao on November 05, 2024, 03:07:09 PM

You certainly have many options, even if at least you could assign representatives proportionally per state or using D'Hont you would be getting a significant improvement.

It's nearly impossible for anything like that to happen even at the state level, let alone federal elections, which would basically require an amendment to the constitution. The party that stands to lose from it (Republicans in this case but I doubt it would be much different if the roles were reversed) has enough power to block any such changes.

Perhaps, I am think that there is a chance in Estates that can hold popular consultations. By definition these could be won by a majority of people and create something like they have in Maine and Nebraska was it? in which not all votes go to the most voted candidate.

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Quote from: BADecker on November 05, 2024, 02:34:45 PM

Quote from: Sender78 on November 05, 2024, 06:09:05 AM

Trump will win and he will lead America to glory, not to communism, as Harris wants to do

And as she has been doing with the Dem Deep State leaders for years. Anybody who wants a touch of understanding of how this all works, watch...

DR Lee Merritt and Dr Bryan Ardis - https://www.bitchute.com/video/KDeYswPUyRVc

Cool

It is not the deep state, it is the establishment and the politicians who are part of it which want the country to continue going through status quo. Republican party used to belong to the establishment but Donald Trump has a deviation of that trend, leading to most Republican politicians to hate the establishment as much as the common people do. Worth pointing out how most of democrats in Washington are still part of the establishment.
Though, it is silly to talk about communism when the Washington stablishment is completely pro-capitalism and has the backing of big business and companies worth billions of dollars in market capitalization. Companies and business backing communism? It does not make sense to me.

What Trump really would love to do is destroying establishment to establish himself as the new pattern of politics within the United States in years to come, but this is not a battle between communists and capitalists, this is a political battle between capitalist in a global view of business and capitalists who embrace national isolation.

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