Topic: Betcoin.ag scam! - page 2. (Read 1033 times)

Thousands of players receive their winnings quickly from Betcoin every day. Many of them have commented on this thread. The players who violate our terms of service to try and cheat the system will absolutely have their winnings confiscated and if they come back, they will have their entire account balance seized. This is limited to a group of about 50 players, who are all from the same region that signed up at the same time, stopped betting at the same time and wagered the same amount on the same events. This was a clear case of abuse and was easily weeded out by our security staff. Legitimate wins on Betcoin are receiving their payouts faster than ever.

I was also returned only the balance of the funds without a refund of the full deposit. Betcoin you are scammers, it turns out if a person has won more than paid - he is given only a deposit. If the other player who violated your rules - the amount on the account less than the deposit - you return only the balance. Betcoin will not allow himself to be offended. This is extremely disrespectful to all those who have been accused of your part! With this approach, you do not see high reputation and ratings, you behave more than offensively!

Sorry to hear about the scam, hopefully, some sort of resolution is made. This stuff is rampant lately...

Yes, they returned my deposit and all the winning money was taken away
So play with them - if you win then it does not mean that you will get your winnings.

So, is anyone else who wrote here was able to withdraw money from betcoin.ag?

Many sportsbooks (and gambling sites where are you play not with other players but against "house") do business in this way: if you losing money, it is okay, even if you are suspected in some sort of abuse actions. But if you are a winner you become the worst enemy. It is unfair but it is how work this industry.

I wonder what is the situation with others players wrote here about problems with Betcoin. Did someone get money back?

Why Betcoin.ag to apply double standards?
To people who have won - accuse of abuse and take away a prize, and at people who have lost and also accused of abuse that don't return a deposit but only the account balance?
If cancel all rates, to all players - then return ALL their deposits!!

Sy, you have been around a long time as have we.  You can certainly see through a variety of brand new accounts making claims.  We know that.  

Also, we have a negative 256 reputation here at BitcoinTalk.org and not one of the trusted members that commented on our trust ever experienced something bad at Betcoin.ag.  They never even say they experienced something bad or negative at Betcoin.ag.  They reference an issue from 2 years ago for a player who continued to play at Betcoin.ag and never gave a bad or untrusted rating about Betcoin.ag.  2 years ago we had a green positive trust rating, since then we have had a red trust rating yet increased substantially in size, player base, and staff.

This clearly shows most people can clearly see through this and quite frankly most people come give Betcoin.ag a try and when they enjoy a great gaming experience.  We have a growing number of depositing players everyday.  People are smart, people want a good experience and we will continue to work hard to provide that.  

As most of you that have submitted tickets know already, we have full Russian language support now to address each one of your tickets in detail, therefore feel free to write in Russian as you are doing in your tickets and here as well.  We have confined it and all accounts are Russian or Ukrainian, new accounts as they are also new accounts here at BitcoinTalk.org and each one is being handled in detail in each ticket.  Several have commented in the ticket and here for the resolution of the matter and we will get through each one in detail. 

Thank you guys. 

Exactly why you got scammed.You take reviews on such one person blogs too seriously when it comes to trusting a service with your money.I doubt that website does even proper gambling or bitcoin related casino reviews.If you really want a review on an online bitcoin related casino, bitcointalk is the place to go.

Nothing is as accurate as the stuff posted here on a gambling sites official thread or a scam accusation against them.

How lond did you place bets at Betcoin? How much did you win? Tell me, how some one had ruined your fun? If you really want to know what is honest sportbooks you have to look on rating at sportsbookreview.com.

What DDOS attack are you talking about? By the way, your appearance here and your message do not looks organic too, so what?

You want to know why people showed up in favor of this book? its because honest people hate scammers like this ruining a fun place to wager. Betcoin is one of the most honest books in the biz.

I appreciate the thread. 100% never playing on that site.

I am glad that the problem has begun to be solved, now it is necessary that have settled the arisen misunderstanding with all users of service.

The decision on simple return of a deposit not absolutely honest in otnosheniy different players. As Bencoin declared cancellation of rates and return of a deposit that logically that take away a prize from the person who has won and return the made deposit. And here at the person who has lost and balance less deposit isn't cancelled for some reason by all rates and don't return a deposit but only the account balance. It isn't honest in relation to players as in both Betcoin options remains in profit I take away vyigrash and without giving the remains of an otproigrysh. If have accused the person of suspicious rates that cancel all rates at all such players and return the brought deposit - it will be so correct.

It is visible what without concept about what there is a speech. You point to DDOS which wasn't mentioned here

This thread doesn't seem at all organic and I'm questioning if this is a coordinated FUD attempt.  If so my guess is these are the same people DDOSing the sportsbook daily.

Here is my unbiased and non compensated Betcoin experience.  I will gladly provide screenshots if people are skeptical.

As a gambler of 20+ years (i know, i know DEGEN CITY BABY) I have my fair share of gambling experiences.  From street bookies to physical casinos around the world, to being an active member of at least 15 different online casinos at some point over the past 10 years I've seen the good, bad and ugly this industry has to offer.

As far as online crypto currency casinos go I can say without a doubt Betcoin is my favorite and most trusted.  That is not to say they are perfect because they are not but the positives far outweigh the negatives.  When it comes to judging an online casino the NUMBER 1 criteria will ALWAYS be payouts.  If I was rating their payout process compared to others on a scale of 1-10 they would easily get a 9.75 the highest of any online casino, crypto or otherwise. The .25 deduction comes from the fact their ETH withdrawals have had issues in the past 2 weeks.  Nothing major just my payout showing as processed but not yet received on my end.  This has happened 3 times in the last two weeks and while it is semi frustrating it really hasn't been a big deal and each time the WD issue was rectified within hours of me opening a trouble ticket.

In the last two months since I started playing at Betcoin exclusively  I've successfully received same day withdrawals totaling over 2.5 BTC (can provide proof).  When there was an WD issue (always with ETH) it was ALWAYS handled promptly.

PROS:
Fast Payouts
HUGE Selection of Sporting and Esports lines.
HUGE selection of Slots and Card Games. (Personal Faves, Jumbo Joker and Charms & Cloves)
24 HR Chat Support (I may be wrong on this but I've sent chat messages at odd hours and they seem to always be on)
Fantastic customer service (When there were issues they were always handled promptly and when I asked ALWAYS received free plays for my troubles)
Low WD Fees

CONS
Capping straight sports bets at 100 coins (Equals 10% of BTC)
ETH WD has issues from time to time.
Baseball Lines are not great.  Standard is dime or 20 cent lines but BC is sitting at 30 cent lines.

Overall I'm very happy. In fact all of my gambling action online now takes place at Betcoin.

If you spent anytime in crypto you know paid shilling is real.  What you may not know is paid FUD is also real.  That being said I think its best if you take everything you read online with a grain of salt. Even this post.  That being said I would not hesitate to recommend BC to a friend.

In closing I just felt it is important to point out the negative betcoin campaign on BTCT directly coincides with the influx of DDOS attacks to the site.  IMO that is somewhat suspicious but maybe im just paranoid.


 

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When are you planning to solve the remaining the -256 negative trust scores ? Each of them has a valid case and a reason to be there.Take the cases on priority where you are accused with blatantly stealing 5+ bitcoins and you haven't acknowledged it.