Topic: Betcoin.ag scam! - page 3. (Read 1040 times)

Well, my problem is resolved. Today Betcoin.ag returned my deposit to me. This is not exactly what I expected, but at least they were honest enough to return my own money to me. Probably, in this situation it is the most acceptable option for both sides of the conflict.

But I will follow how is things going in this topic because I received some privat messages from other players with the same problem.

You might think that bookmakers do not have the same bets on the event. If you are offered an outcome, it is obvious that they will bet on him. And if the size of the rate is limited to 4.75 euros, then it is obvious that at least two people will surely deliver 4.75 euros for this event. But as one person put immediately for 40 players, it's somehow physically impossible. I think in the run-up to the World Cup, it is better to settle the problem by peaceful means, so as not to spoil your reputation as a reliable bookmaker.

If 40 players are betting the same lines then obviously that's weird. I'll await more info and just point out that I am getting paid no problem.

If you blame more than 40 players in the fact that they somehow abused your site at the same time with the same pattern, thus you confirm that this is not a multi-accounting is but a real people.

It is quite logical that many new forum users appeared here, once you frozen payouts. Where else should players go for information and share of experience? This is a well-known forum, and judging by your reputation at this forum, there have been many such players in your history who made complaint to your actions. And you want to say they are all bad and are you good one, aren't?

If you want to know who disappear from the forum first return the money. As for me I'm not going anywhere.

I sent my photos as you asked. We can speak with each other by skype, phone or web-camera. I want you to tell me what are we both waiting for?

Hello

I've only been playing here a few weeks now but they have been nice to me so far. They process my payouts quickly when I need it done quickly and have provided me with some nice bonuses.

It is tough when a book has to deal with someone making 40 accounts or whatever to circumvent limits on games. I hope the funds are eventually returned to those users because otherwise it'd be an unfair windfall for the book but I don't blame them for trying to figure out how to stop it in the future.

Not a scam site though, they have paid me every time I've asked. 

Javy

Betcoin for sure are not scammers. I have been betting there now for over half a year and apart from some limits on some markets, I have been fully satisfied with Betcoin. They always paid out my withdrawals even of multiple BTC within hours and always responded to me on questions.

I do hope they go out of Beta mode quickly because then limits hopefully will be better, but for sure they are not scammers.

We are now at over 40 accounts following the pattern.  All have stopped playing the same day and we are continuing to weed them out.  

As you can see from the accusers all our brand new members of bitcointalk who will disappear once our investigation is finalized and their situation is resolved.

Another thing we have learned about scam accusations is every casino that has been a success has them.  It's just a part of the industry unfortunately.  The abusers and cheaters are quick to say scam when they are caught.
 Just search any casinos name and scam and you will see.  Also, those that have spoken negatively of Betcoin.ag in this thread have not been scammed or cheated in anyway and don't even say they have.

We are still researching and examining the players.  All of their tickets have been responded to promptly, some have come forward detailing their pattern and we will work to finalize this.  Others have panicked after being caught and now state scam even though nothing has been finalized. 

After five years, we are thankful that we continue to get bigger and better everyday and want to thank the great members of BitcoinTalk for your support for over 5 years now!

We invite anyone and everyone to come experience Betcoin.ag and provide your feedback.  We will make sure you get a bonus per our bonus terms and see the quality of the service, games, and community that you experience.  Thank you again everyone!

Hi All,

If anyone bets on betcoin or has been there then they have surely seen my name (dailydose1 here and there). I'm probably one of the most active members on the site and have been playing there for upwards of a year give or take. I can say with upmost certainty that betcoin is not a scam and have been nothing but honest with me and willing t fix their mistakes. The longest it has ever taken me to get a payout is 24 hours, but normally 30-60 minutes. Which is insanely fast for a sportsbook. I have never once had a problem withdrawing, and I withdraw 1,000-2,000 USD at a time.

Does the sportsbook go down or have problems occassionally? yes. Do they fix it and keep the players updated regularly? yes. This book has its issues occasionally just like all other books but they are quick to rectify the problem and be honest with you. Where else has live chat, community chat (which im on all the time for fun), and support tickets...

These posters never said they didnt use a VPN (which is against the rules....read the rules if your going to wager somewhere.....) and betcoin is doing a thorough investigation.

In this case the apporiate thing to do is open a case with sportsbookreview.com (the trusted name in sportsbetting and grievences with books) but my guess is the poster wont do this because they know they were breaking the rules.

Betcoin has been nothing but great, with quick payouts and great service. Dont believe these clowns coming to the forums when they try to cheat the system and get caught.

I HAVE NO AFFILIATION WITH BETCOIN EXCEPT I GAMBLE THERE....A LOT

Have played on Betcoin for three and a half years now and WD's are not something that I have ever experienced issues with. Withdrawals right now faster than ever, around 30 mins on the avg. Also, over the years have witnessed issues where some innocent players get caught in the crossfire of the multi-accounting battle. It sucks, don't get me wrong but to me, it shows at least there is some sort of monitoring happening. I would advise anyone caught in the fires to work with the support and you will see a resolution.

But freshly out of ef's to give for someone creating multiple dozens of accounts to bypass sports betting limits.

SMG

people keep making same mistakes over and over again
when you are putting your money into a bank do you read about it first? why don't you do it when you deposit your money
to a casino? a simple search could have saved you a lot of nerves and probably 0.2 bitcoins as well
I hope you will get your money back,since betcoin.ag representative is present in this topic,but next time try to pick a casino with less scam accusations,just in case

The 0.2 BTC is not the issue. I cannot get into the exact specifics, but 0.2 BTC from 100 accounts adds up quickly. This is being handled as quickly as we are able, but the investigation is ongoing at this time.

First of all, I still confuse with your problem, but why you believe and trust giving your money to the site? IN the world of cryptocurrency, especially in gambling, you have to ready to lose all of your money. And if you try in first time, you should put in  little value, but you put 0.2 bitcoin? For me that's a big nominal, maybe for you that just a little. Ok focus in your problem, what can you do now is just begging they will payback your money. You can do another else way, it will useless.

Hello.
Also faced with the problem of withdrawal of funds and the subsequent charge in multi-account
You'd think that the bookmakers all players are putting absolutely different outcomes and amounts. Strange behavior Betcoin.ag - like the reputation was good and the reviews, but then apparently decided to find a way not to pay players

There is maybe only one fair decision - return money to player. Why should I wait until the investigation is over? How long will your so-called investigation take? Perhaps there is no investigation and you simply do not want to pay players. The bitcoin course changes regularly, and because of you I risk to lose money without even playing at your site!

We appreciate the feedback and it is certainly valid. This investigation is ongoing and we are still speaking with the players involved to learn as much as possible to prevent it happening again. Once the investigation has concluded, a fair decision will be made for all. Several accounts involved who have cooperated have already been settled with.

Yes they constantly had and have problems with the acceptance of a bet, when instead of a coupon there is only a button to enter the account, although I am already there. Therefore, there is nothing surprising in the fact that people ceased to put you in a certain period of time.
It's also strange to see charges of violating rules from a site that caught on the changes to the rules of the back number and trying to punish players for their alleged violation.
If they do not like something, let them return money and close access to the site. But they do not have the right to withhold money. And there is nothing in their rules.

What is strange about the fact that people bet on the events that you offer? Do not want to accept bets on these events - do not add them to your site. Events for all players are the same, the coefficients are also, of course, and the bets will be the same.

As for the amount of the bet, in my case when I make bets, I try to put the maximum possible amount according to the bankroll management. You set a limit on the maximum amount of the bet, and then wonder that many players bets the same sum? Try to not limit max bets size and feel the difference.

The difference in a few days between the registration of different players is a normal process. As a player it's strange for me to see such accusations. The policy of cheating players will lead to the fact that you will have several new players a year. Also what, you will accuse them of that they in one year were registered?

And why are you do not tell us that it also was the day when button "Play in" have been broken at your site? As for me because of this error I physically could not place bets and I've decided to made request for withdraw because did not want to wait when you fix it. How many players had the same problem that days? And now you told me that "it is a part of pattern". Nonsense. This "pattern" was created artificially by your own actions.

And what about my documents? I already almost every day send you different photos on request. It seems to me it's high time to understand that I'm a real person not multi-account. But you continue to not believe me. Why then do I send all these photos?

the story just doesn't make sense to me , we are talking about few mbtc here not tens of bitcoins
why would someone do that when he can bet on all other bitcoin sites , even there are other ultra play bookies as well and other bookies where that player can actually have higher odds since there are many sites with lower margin
and why you taking the funds ? can't you just lock his account and send him his money ? this a pure scam and can't see a single reason for not paying the player

why you keep doing that to your reputation ? for real no one is going to deposit a dime in your site with all of these problems

As I know multi-accounting means that one person open multiple account in series, one after another when previous account was blocked or limited somehow to make bets. But you said that there are a lot of such accounts and they all bets at one time. So, it is can not be one person. And if it is not one person, then this is not multi-accounting. In this case, your claims look strange. People just make bets at your site according the events that you offer. Do you think such actions is suspicious? Return them money and ask do not to play on your site anymore. It is normal practice for many sportsbooks. No players - no problems.

Betcoin.at is already a shady place to gamble at. Plus I believe the OP is also involved in some kind of violation of terms and services and this can be really easily proved by the gambling house.

None the less, at least return his initial deposit and let him go away from the site.