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Topic: Betcoin.ag The Real Deal? (Read 2150 times)

sr. member
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March 06, 2016, 12:25:31 AM
#47
Your research is on par with a 5 year old.  Anyone with half a brain could figure out everything you presented.  Not only that, but some of your accusations are wrong.

They are not new and did not just launch as you have insinuated.  They have been around for years and have done nothing short of showing the highest quality customer service in the industry.  If you compare their customer service to other sites, you will find they put most others to shame.  Their signature campaign that you docked them for has only been around for 2 months.  They have built a huge customer base without using a signature campaign, but started getting into that recently.

So, you are challenging others to "prove" why they aren't a scam, but haven't presented much showing that they are.  Every single accusation against them for payouts or anything is resolved smoothly and quickly.  Their "template"(That they heavily modified) is also used by the exchange launched by, crap I forget his name, some big celebrity that just launched their own sports betting website.

So in conclusion, you did maybe 5 minutes of research and made a quick post about it.  If you have any evidence or proof of a scam, please present it, otherwise you have nothing and this is coming across as someone as a chip on their shoulder.  Did you lose some money there or something?

Is this a joke?
hero member
Activity: 1005
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January 10, 2016, 07:40:39 PM
#46
Being anonymous has nothing wrong, which is supposed to be the mean of using bitcoin. As long as it wouldn't plan to scam others, keep paying out, operate fair platform etc. Users will trust them.
My friend haved there a problems with withdrawall. he deposited 0.5 and win 4+ BTC. more than 2 monts hes waited for money. after 100500+ messages to support money deposited to hes wallet.
Why not ask your friends come here to present him betcoin account to Peeps Place to check? Otherwise this comment is meaningless to help resolve the issue.
hero member
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January 10, 2016, 06:41:21 PM
#45
You most likely lost a lot on there so you're trying to accuse them of scamming or whatever.

Keep ya head up kid, you shouldn't do that. Grin

That's a guess, you don't know this for sure.

But ontopic
I think it's a wrong tendency that so many companies are just hiding their identity and people have to rely on their honestly.

Very good that this is being discussed.
hero member
Activity: 532
Merit: 500
January 10, 2016, 01:29:10 PM
#44
You most likely lost a lot on there so you're trying to accuse them of scamming or whatever.

Keep ya head up kid, you shouldn't do that. Grin
full member
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fastdice.com The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Dice
January 10, 2016, 01:25:50 PM
#43
My friend haved there a problems with withdrawall. he deposited 0.5 and win 4+ BTC. more than 2 monts hes waited for money. after 100500+ messages to support money deposited to hes wallet.

Well this is just the start of the problem.
First there is 1 user, then there are 10 an eventually there are hundreds and they have run away.

Being so shady to hide their company details means can just get away with this scam/theft.
member
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January 06, 2016, 07:06:04 PM
#42
Betcoin poker and CASINO is the best thing to happen to online gaming in a long long time.There vip levels and rakeback are bye far the best anywhere.If you like to play poker or casino betcoin.ag is the place to be.
full member
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January 06, 2016, 07:05:32 PM
#41
My friend haved there a problems with withdrawall. he deposited 0.5 and win 4+ BTC. more than 2 monts hes waited for money. after 100500+ messages to support money deposited to hes wallet.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
January 06, 2016, 06:26:47 PM
#40
Betcoin.ag is a decent operation and if they are related to WPN or not is not relevant.
In any case the players can play and can cashout, have support and someone to talk to, it should be enough.

BTW - what about all other .ag brands ?

There sound come some more information about these .ag but also other gambling sites.
It's fair to risky having to count on the owners or developers of the site to remain truthfull.

Wasn't magical dice a few weeks ago broke becaues the dev's needed money?
hero member
Activity: 896
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Live Stars - Adult Streaming Platform
January 06, 2016, 12:05:25 PM
#39
In any case the players can play and can cashout, have support and someone to talk to, it should be enough.

I don't see how this is sufficient. That's not enough for me. Companies need to earn trust to get more consumers. Having them hiding out behind some firewalls, hiding whois information.
is not the way to earn trust.

It's a way to earn distrust and this is exactly what OP is bringing to the surface.
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1059
January 06, 2016, 05:58:05 AM
#38
There is no such thing as the "World Poker Network".  You clearly haven't done any research on them if you don't even know what network they are on.

This was addressed on page 1 of this thread. We don't do any research on poker rooms or casinos attached to sportsbooks. It was a mistake to even mention the poker room.

It's considered a separate entity to us and they aren't mentioned in the reviews other than having a check mark in the grid containing the different features and markets of each sportsbook.

I apologize for the post.
full member
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January 06, 2016, 05:41:47 AM
#37
There is no such thing as the "World Poker Network".  You clearly haven't done any research on them if you don't even know what network they are on.
copper member
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in BTC we trust
January 06, 2016, 04:47:54 AM
#36
Betcoin.ag is a decent operation and if they are related to WPN or not is not relevant.
In any case the players can play and can cashout, have support and someone to talk to, it should be enough.

BTW - what about all other .ag brands ?
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 1059
January 05, 2016, 10:07:08 PM
#35
No Bitcoin Sportsbook has a sportsbook license and there are a lot of books. It would be nice if they all had licenses and held our money in escrow but unfortunately, that's not the case. Bitcoin books and players like to keep anonymous.

Here's a list of all the sportsbooks. If some are missing, please post about them. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-ratings-of-bitcoin-sportsbooks-since-2014-kyc-rankings-bonuses-scam-accus-717790 Thanks


"A" rated books
NitrogenSports A+ (2012)

"B"rated books
Betcoinsports B+ (2013)
Jetwin B+ (2013)
Casinobitcoin B (2013)

"C" rated books
Anonibet C+ (2011)
Cloudbet C+ (2013)
DirectBet C+ (2014)
Fairlay C (2014)
Betmoose C- (2014)
OLEBitcoin C- (2013)*
Predictious C- (2013)
Betbtc C- (2014)

"D" rated books
Premiumtradings D+ (2014))

"F" rated books

Asianconnect F ....................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
Ball2Win F ..........................accepting deposits. They are under the same license as "F" book gobetgo
BetCas F ............................accepting deposits but they have confiscated funds from multiple players.
BTCBonusBook (2015).......... accepting deposits with no payout history.
Casinoco (2015)...................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Coindrafts F (2014)
Webetcoins F (2014
Bitbm F .............................accepting deposits but not paying out all players.
Bitcoinsport F
Bitcoinlivebets F
Coinbet F
Gobetgo F (2013)
Sportbet.im F
StakeBTC F
Blockbet F
Bitbook F

NR
altbetfair.com
betbanks.com
betmbtc.com
betinbtc.com
BetVIP - closed 6/12/15
bitcasino.io/sportsbook
bitsportsbook.org
BTCBook
Coin178.com
coinbet24.com
Flutterclub.com
lvaction.com
Planetofbets.com
tdsports.com
xbet.io


* longer accepting cash deposits

Maximum grade based upon time in business:

A - 2 years
B - 1 year
C - 3 months
D - 1 month
F - reserved for books that are scams, slow paying or stiffing players


Please post comments, reviews, praises and complaints here. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-ratings-of-bitcoin-sportsbooks-since-2014-kyc-rankings-bonuses-scam-accus-717790

Top books are processing withdrawals within 15 minutes. Exemptions are given to books with poker rooms. There is also some leeway with an account that gets redflagged or a large withdrawal. Post if withdrawals are taking longer than 15 minutes. Thanks again.

legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1000
January 05, 2016, 08:41:33 PM
#34
Looking forward to OP's further research on which bitcoin gambling/dice/sportsbooks are licensed and which are not licensed. I think I read somehwere that bitcasino.io actually has a license.

Should be very interesting, indeed.

Keep us posted, OP.


 Wink
sr. member
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Merit: 250
January 05, 2016, 05:02:58 PM
#33
Till they are paying properly.

Lol really?

So if they run away with all user funds which could be easly around 1000 BTC with 10k users, we have to start make scam accusation threads?
That makes no sense at all.

If you are legit about your business, why whould you hide anything? Correct you would not hide any information.

If you're a scammer or have wrong intentions you hide that info..

For this reason it is mandatory to register your company in every respectable country.

It's going kind of off-topic, excuse me
Registration in "every respected country" does NOT guarantee you absolutely nothing. There is a long list of licensed/registered bookies which run away with a lot more than 1000BTC (in fiat). And wasn't MT-Gox registered in a respected country??

More important is for sites to pat because their reputation here could burn in less than 24 hours. Look recent case: master-p. He was flamed in red even before writing something against.

Exchanges and gambling sites need to be maintained by trusted companies. Showing that you are hiding information is just a bad way to start earning trust.
Having read this i would never use betcoin.ag, not even for a satoshi. The same goes for the other anonymous, potential, scam casino's
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 1002
January 05, 2016, 11:11:52 AM
#32
Till they are paying properly.

Lol really?

So if they run away with all user funds which could be easly around 1000 BTC with 10k users, we have to start make scam accusation threads?
That makes no sense at all.

If you are legit about your business, why whould you hide anything? Correct you would not hide any information.

If you're a scammer or have wrong intentions you hide that info..

For this reason it is mandatory to register your company in every respectable country.

It's going kind of off-topic, excuse me
Registration in "every respected country" does NOT guarantee you absolutely nothing. There is a long list of licensed/registered bookies which run away with a lot more than 1000BTC (in fiat). And wasn't MT-Gox registered in a respected country??

More important is for sites to pat because their reputation here could burn in less than 24 hours. Look recent case: master-p. He was flamed in red even before writing something against.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
January 05, 2016, 10:24:03 AM
#31
What i wanna say is that many sites with btc payment are not operating with license, like satoshidice, satoshibet(shut down now), bitcoinvideocasino, primedice, and many other dice sites. Buying a license costs much so i think that's why they don't have it, just save money

Well that isn't a good reason right? You have to agree fees shouldn't be the main reason to not buy a license if it is mandatory?
Reading this threads make me wonder if any of the gambling sites here hold a license at all...
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
January 05, 2016, 09:42:47 AM
#30
What i wanna say is that many sites with btc payment are not operating with license, like satoshidice, satoshibet(shut down now), bitcoinvideocasino, primedice, and many other dice sites. Buying a license costs much so i think that's why they don't have it, just save money
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
January 05, 2016, 09:18:31 AM
#29
Till they are paying properly.

Lol really?

So if they run away with all user funds which could be easly around 1000 BTC with 10k users, we have to start make scam accusation threads?
That makes no sense at all.

If you are legit about your business, why whould you hide anything? Correct you would not hide any information.

If you're a scammer or have wrong intentions you hide that info..

For this reason it is mandatory to register your company in every respectable country.
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
January 05, 2016, 06:28:54 AM
#28
BTC sports books don't have licenses and they all keep their information private.
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