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legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
January 05, 2016, 01:09:26 AM
#27
They [...] have done nothing short of showing the highest quality customer service in the industry.  If you compare their customer service to other sites, you will find they put most others to shame.

Seriously?
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 1002
January 04, 2016, 07:51:52 PM
#26
Cmon guys, you can't be serious. Almost all of BTC companies either have registration on a off-shore zone or doesn't have it at all.
CS guys are almost 100% outsources with just a few papers Q/A. They doesn't have any real data in front of them.

And in BTC world everyone could fill a scam accusation which could burn a site in less than a 24 hours. So All of this data is unimportant. Till they are paying properly.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
January 04, 2016, 05:41:54 PM
#25
It's a common practice to hide your registration details behind a shield at any registrar company and using strange domain names like .ag means nothing because the site is not located in Antigua and Barbuda. Also is there even any institution that issues Bitcoin casino licenses?

How is this common? Every bitcoin related company who has a whois protect will get any questions, but betcoin being a gambling company, not?
You do understand that gambling sites run a way with users funds too right?
Of course it is not all right. But at the same time do you have personal information and adresses of every other Bitcoin Casino Owner out there? I guess not.
In some countries online casinos are forbidden (USA, Australia) and operators either will deny users access to the site or hide behind a wall of fake registrations and sketchy laws.


Well there are laws which are there for users protection.

So is it ok that companies can hide behind fake information?
Hell on.

Should we warn people about this shady companies?
Hell yeah
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1004
January 04, 2016, 04:15:34 PM
#24
It's a common practice to hide your registration details behind a shield at any registrar company and using strange domain names like .ag means nothing because the site is not located in Antigua and Barbuda. Also is there even any institution that issues Bitcoin casino licenses?

How is this common? Every bitcoin related company who has a whois protect will get any questions, but betcoin being a gambling company, not?
You do understand that gambling sites run a way with users funds too right?
Of course it is not all right. But at the same time do you have personal information and adresses of every other Bitcoin Casino Owner out there? I guess not.
In some countries online casinos are forbidden (USA, Australia) and operators either will deny users access to the site or hide behind a wall of fake registrations and sketchy laws.
member
Activity: 75
Merit: 10
January 04, 2016, 04:01:47 PM
#23
It's a common practice to hide your registration details behind a shield at any registrar company and using strange domain names like .ag means nothing because the site is not located in Antigua and Barbuda. Also is there even any institution that issues Bitcoin casino licenses?

How is this common? Every bitcoin related company who has a whois protect will get any questions, but betcoin being a gambling company, not?
You do understand that gambling sites run a way with users funds too right?
legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 1036
January 04, 2016, 01:31:21 AM
#22
It's a common practice to hide your registration details behind a shield at any registrar company and using strange domain names like .ag means nothing because the site is not located in Antigua and Barbuda. Also is there even any institution that issues Bitcoin casino licenses?
legendary
Activity: 2660
Merit: 1141
January 04, 2016, 01:18:46 AM
#21
Just posting my concer here regarding this

Bitcoin gambling is around black and white so most dont have license but that does not mean they are not honest or will scam you. They are gambling sites so they will win without having to scam thats a fact of this. Most operator hides behind anonimous registration like this because of legal issue
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
fastdice.com The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Dice
January 04, 2016, 12:01:33 AM
#20
Your research is on par with a 5 year old.  Anyone with half a brain could figure out everything you presented.  Not only that, but some of your accusations are wrong.

They are not new and did not just launch as you have insinuated.  They have been around for years and have done nothing short of showing the highest quality customer service in the industry.  If you compare their customer service to other sites, you will find they put most others to shame.  Their signature campaign that you docked them for has only been around for 2 months.  They have built a huge customer base without using a signature campaign, but started getting into that recently.

So, you are challenging others to "prove" why they aren't a scam, but haven't presented much showing that they are.  Every single accusation against them for payouts or anything is resolved smoothly and quickly.  Their "template"(That they heavily modified) is also used by the exchange launched by, crap I forget his name, some big celebrity that just launched their own sports betting website.

So in conclusion, you did maybe 5 minutes of research and made a quick post about it.  If you have any evidence or proof of a scam, please present it, otherwise you have nothing and this is coming across as someone as a chip on their shoulder.  Did you lose some money there or something?

Well in fact i never said it took hours did i?

At this moment i am very very interested whether they have a license and why they chose to wanted to stay dark.
You know having no contact information is illegal in most countries.

So enlighten me.
1) Do they have a license if yes give me their number
2) A solid reason why ther is no contact information on their website?

and i would be happy to delete this thread/ apologize

P.S. Your signature says it all dumbass, 2 solid questions.
P.P.S. IF you are a fanboy selling your ass for less then 50 USD a week, don't

There are ways to figure out if they have a license without throwing threads around.  I personally don't know if they do, if I remember correctly, they didn't need one where they operated out of, but that's something you can easily send in a support request for.  Then you can have something to go on, but you may want to extend your sleuthing abilities to the other bitcoin gambling sites as well, because I guarantee that not a single one will have the type of license your looking for.

My signature says nothing.  They offered to pay me to put an advertisement in my signature.  I have played there for years and have never had an issue and decided to let them.  If you looked back, you would see that I have been in over 10 different signature campaigns for all manner of sites.  So I am no fanboy, I am simply a satisfied customer who will defend a site who has done nothing to open up accusations.  Had you opened this thread against Primedice or any other site, I would still be posting in opposition because you haven't really done any work in your investigation.  It seems like you have some reason why you are attacking Betcoin since I find it weird that you just happened to choose them first when there are literally TONS of other sites that show much clearer red flags that you could be going after.

Well we got another one from the UK Spokesmen:
http://imgur.com/Usdgn7q


Idiot, the fact your and mr. fake review here even are responding is because you are on their payroll.

Remember the part where I mentioned 51 dollar.. that's you.

So please let management respond
Why betcoin.ag have not a license
Hide their company information which is illegal.

LOL did betcoin.ag really think I would stop asking question after a hero member replied.

How sad...

legendary
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1189
January 04, 2016, 12:00:46 AM
#19
They have a poker room in the World Poker Network. Betcoin.ag also uses the URL Betcoinsports.com.

They are the second rated bitcoin sportsbook using a conglomerate of analytic metrics behind only Nitrogensports.

There is no such thing as the "World Poker Network".  You clearly haven't done any research on them if you don't even know what network they are on.

I don't deal with poker rooms or casinos, just sportsbooks. Sorry if I misspoke about their poker room and shouldn't have mentioned it.

Don't be too hard on yourself, you were close.  Its the Winning Poker Network (WPN), here's the website
http://www.winningpokernetwork.com/
Betcoin is a part of this network.

It's actually not a part of that network.  It is a part of WTN, the Winning Tournament Network.  Which means that they are allowed to give WPN money in order to have access to their tournaments, nothing more nothing less.
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
fastdice.com The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Dice
January 03, 2016, 11:57:16 PM
#18
Betcoin.ag is a strong book with a big customer base. There are quit a few top books located in unregulated jurisdictions.

That's making a lot of sense.
A strong book while just launching?

Being anonymous and having a hero account to back it up.
DDude it's 2016 that don't count anymore.

Give us some solid proof they are legit. Since they are to ''busy''

They opened 2.5 years ago with a strong payout history. Any payouts taking over 15 minutes should be reported here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-ratings-of-bitcoin-sportsbooks-since-2014-kyc-rankings-bonuses-scam-accus-717790 .

They have a poker room in the World Poker Network. Betcoin.ag also uses the URL Betcoinsports.com.

They are the second rated bitcoin sportsbook using a conglomerate of analytic metrics behind Nitrogensports.

Excellent, i got some questions about their legitimacy
1) Do they have a licence?
2) Why are they protection their company information in the whois and even on their website?


@Peeps Place I saw that your alt account made a trust review a while ago just before going offline
"How does this guy not have tons of trust considering what he does for the bitcoin/gambling community? "

Two weeks later he went dark so his published review is a little bit weird. the same kind of weird since you don't answer the above questions.

I prefer some solid information so please respond to the above questions.

Thanks though..


I don't have an alternate account that made a trust review.

It's best that Betcoinsports, or others, answer your questions as I don't want to speak for them. The review thread also has poster's opinions.

One thing that I would like to add is that most pure bitcoin books do not have any type of license. Payout history and longevity are a litmus test for bitcoin books.

It's different than fiat books located in Europe where a license is necessary.

Like I said there's no need for you explaining things here.. it  don't matter since you are not a legit spokesperson..
Why are you wasting my time mr. fake review on your BCT account?
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1061
January 03, 2016, 11:54:39 PM
#17
They have a poker room in the World Poker Network. Betcoin.ag also uses the URL Betcoinsports.com.

They are the second rated bitcoin sportsbook using a conglomerate of analytic metrics behind only Nitrogensports.

There is no such thing as the "World Poker Network".  You clearly haven't done any research on them if you don't even know what network they are on.

I don't deal with poker rooms or casinos, just sportsbooks. Sorry if I misspoke about their poker room and shouldn't have mentioned it.

Don't be too hard on yourself, you were close.  Its the Winning Poker Network (WPN), here's the website
http://www.winningpokernetwork.com/
Betcoin is a part of this network.
Thanks
legendary
Activity: 2800
Merit: 1012
Get Paid Crypto To Walk or Drive
January 03, 2016, 11:54:09 PM
#16
They have a poker room in the World Poker Network. Betcoin.ag also uses the URL Betcoinsports.com.

They are the second rated bitcoin sportsbook using a conglomerate of analytic metrics behind only Nitrogensports.

There is no such thing as the "World Poker Network".  You clearly haven't done any research on them if you don't even know what network they are on.

I don't deal with poker rooms or casinos, just sportsbooks. Sorry if I misspoke about their poker room and shouldn't have mentioned it.

Don't be too hard on yourself, you were close.  Its the Winning Poker Network (WPN), here's the website
http://www.winningpokernetwork.com/
Betcoin is a part of this network.
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1061
January 03, 2016, 11:50:53 PM
#15
They have a poker room in the World Poker Network. Betcoin.ag also uses the URL Betcoinsports.com.

They are the second rated bitcoin sportsbook using a conglomerate of analytic metrics behind only Nitrogensports.

There is no such thing as the "World Poker Network".  You clearly haven't done any research on them if you don't even know what network they are on.

I don't deal with poker rooms or casinos, just sportsbooks. Sorry if I misspoke about their poker room and shouldn't have mentioned it.
legendary
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1189
January 03, 2016, 11:47:28 PM
#14
They have a poker room in the World Poker Network. Betcoin.ag also uses the URL Betcoinsports.com.

They are the second rated bitcoin sportsbook using a conglomerate of analytic metrics behind only Nitrogensports.

There is no such thing as the "World Poker Network".  You clearly haven't done any research on them if you don't even know what network they are on.
legendary
Activity: 2800
Merit: 1012
Get Paid Crypto To Walk or Drive
January 03, 2016, 11:42:40 PM
#13
Your research is on par with a 5 year old.  Anyone with half a brain could figure out everything you presented.  Not only that, but some of your accusations are wrong.

They are not new and did not just launch as you have insinuated.  They have been around for years and have done nothing short of showing the highest quality customer service in the industry.  If you compare their customer service to other sites, you will find they put most others to shame.  Their signature campaign that you docked them for has only been around for 2 months.  They have built a huge customer base without using a signature campaign, but started getting into that recently.

So, you are challenging others to "prove" why they aren't a scam, but haven't presented much showing that they are.  Every single accusation against them for payouts or anything is resolved smoothly and quickly.  Their "template"(That they heavily modified) is also used by the exchange launched by, crap I forget his name, some big celebrity that just launched their own sports betting website.

So in conclusion, you did maybe 5 minutes of research and made a quick post about it.  If you have any evidence or proof of a scam, please present it, otherwise you have nothing and this is coming across as someone as a chip on their shoulder.  Did you lose some money there or something?

Well in fact i never said it took hours did i?

At this moment i am very very interested whether they have a license and why they chose to wanted to stay dark.
You know having no contact information is illegal in most countries.

So enlighten me.
1) Do they have a license if yes give me their number
2) A solid reason why ther is no contact information on their website?

and i would be happy to delete this thread/ apologize

P.S. Your signature says it all dumbass, 2 solid questions.
P.P.S. IF you are a fanboy selling your ass for less then 50 USD a week, don't

There are ways to figure out if they have a license without throwing threads around.  I personally don't know if they do, if I remember correctly, they didn't need one where they operated out of, but that's something you can easily send in a support request for.  Then you can have something to go on, but you may want to extend your sleuthing abilities to the other bitcoin gambling sites as well, because I guarantee that not a single one will have the type of license your looking for.

My signature says nothing.  They offered to pay me to put an advertisement in my signature.  I have played there for years and have never had an issue and decided to let them.  If you looked back, you would see that I have been in over 10 different signature campaigns for all manner of sites.  So I am no fanboy, I am simply a satisfied customer who will defend a site who has done nothing to open up accusations.  Had you opened this thread against Primedice or any other site, I would still be posting in opposition because you haven't really done any work in your investigation.  It seems like you have some reason why you are attacking Betcoin since I find it weird that you just happened to choose them first when there are literally TONS of other sites that show much clearer red flags that you could be going after.
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
fastdice.com The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Dice
January 03, 2016, 11:41:46 PM
#12
@debitme you are willing so sell your reputation fo r51 dollars.
Wow that's cheap.

So, you are challenging others to "prove" why they aren't a scam, but haven't presented much showing that they are.  Every single accusation against them for payouts or anything is resolved smoothly and quickly.  Their "template"(That they heavily modified) is also used by the exchange launched by, crap I forget his name, some big celebrity that just launched their own sports betting website.

Templates are uses for companies who start (see my OP) not my companies who exist... 2.5 years.

I can make another thread if you like. Legendary selling it's rep for 51 usd?

Wow once more after master P it's proven rank here doesn't count anymore...
legendary
Activity: 3878
Merit: 1061
January 03, 2016, 11:38:36 PM
#11
Betcoin.ag is a strong book with a big customer base. There are quit a few top books located in unregulated jurisdictions.

That's making a lot of sense.
A strong book while just launching?

Being anonymous and having a hero account to back it up.
DDude it's 2016 that don't count anymore.

Give us some solid proof they are legit. Since they are to ''busy''

They opened 2.5 years ago with a strong payout history. Any payouts taking over 15 minutes should be reported here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-ratings-of-bitcoin-sportsbooks-since-2014-kyc-rankings-bonuses-scam-accus-717790 .

They have a poker room in the World Poker Network. Betcoin.ag also uses the URL Betcoinsports.com.

They are the second rated bitcoin sportsbook using a conglomerate of analytic metrics behind Nitrogensports.

Excellent, i got some questions about their legitimacy
1) Do they have a licence?
2) Why are they protection their company information in the whois and even on their website?


@Peeps Place I saw that your alt account made a trust review a while ago just before going offline
"How does this guy not have tons of trust considering what he does for the bitcoin/gambling community? "

Two weeks later he went dark so his published review is a little bit weird. the same kind of weird since you don't answer the above questions.

I prefer some solid information so please respond to the above questions.

Thanks though..


I don't have an alternate account that made a trust review.

It's best that Betcoinsports, or others, answer your questions as I don't want to speak for them. The review thread also has poster's opinions.

One thing that I would like to add is that most pure bitcoin books do not have any type of license. Payout history and longevity are a litmus test for bitcoin books.

It's different than fiat books located in Europe where a license is necessary.
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
fastdice.com The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Dice
January 03, 2016, 11:22:14 PM
#10
Your research is on par with a 5 year old.  Anyone with half a brain could figure out everything you presented.  Not only that, but some of your accusations are wrong.

They are not new and did not just launch as you have insinuated.  They have been around for years and have done nothing short of showing the highest quality customer service in the industry.  If you compare their customer service to other sites, you will find they put most others to shame.  Their signature campaign that you docked them for has only been around for 2 months.  They have built a huge customer base without using a signature campaign, but started getting into that recently.

So, you are challenging others to "prove" why they aren't a scam, but haven't presented much showing that they are.  Every single accusation against them for payouts or anything is resolved smoothly and quickly.  Their "template"(That they heavily modified) is also used by the exchange launched by, crap I forget his name, some big celebrity that just launched their own sports betting website.

So in conclusion, you did maybe 5 minutes of research and made a quick post about it.  If you have any evidence or proof of a scam, please present it, otherwise you have nothing and this is coming across as someone as a chip on their shoulder.  Did you lose some money there or something?

Well in fact i never said it took hours did i?

At this moment i am very very interested whether they have a license and why they chose to wanted to stay dark.
You know having no contact information is illegal in most countries.

So enlighten me.
1) Do they have a license if yes give me their number
2) A solid reason why ther is no contact information on their website?

and i would be happy to delete this thread/ apologize

P.S. Your signature says it all dumbass, 2 solid questions.
P.P.S. IF you are a fanboy selling your ass for less then 50 USD a week, don't
full member
Activity: 210
Merit: 100
fastdice.com The Worlds Fastest Bitcoin Dice
January 03, 2016, 11:16:59 PM
#9
Betcoin.ag is a strong book with a big customer base. There are quit a few top books located in unregulated jurisdictions.

That's making a lot of sense.
A strong book while just launching?

Being anonymous and having a hero account to back it up.
DDude it's 2016 that don't count anymore.

Give us some solid proof they are legit. Since they are to ''busy''

They opened 2.5 years ago with a strong payout history. Any payouts taking over 15 minutes should be reported here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-ratings-of-bitcoin-sportsbooks-since-2014-kyc-rankings-bonuses-scam-accus-717790 .

They have a poker room in the World Poker Network. Betcoin.ag also uses the URL Betcoinsports.com.

They are the second rated bitcoin sportsbook using a conglomerate of analytic metrics behind Nitrogensports.

Excellent, i got some questions about their legitimacy
1) Do they have a licence?
2) Why are they protection their company information in the whois and even on their website?


@Peeps Place I saw that your alt account made a trust review a while ago just before going offline
"How does this guy not have tons of trust considering what he does for the bitcoin/gambling community? "

Two weeks later he went dark so his published review is a little bit weird. the same kind of weird since you don't answer the above questions.

I prefer some solid information so please respond to the above questions.

Thanks though..

legendary
Activity: 2800
Merit: 1012
Get Paid Crypto To Walk or Drive
January 03, 2016, 11:07:40 PM
#8
Your research is on par with a 5 year old.  Anyone with half a brain could figure out everything you presented.  Not only that, but some of your accusations are wrong.

They are not new and did not just launch as you have insinuated.  They have been around for years and have done nothing short of showing the highest quality customer service in the industry.  If you compare their customer service to other sites, you will find they put most others to shame.  Their signature campaign that you docked them for has only been around for 2 months.  They have built a huge customer base without using a signature campaign, but started getting into that recently.

So, you are challenging others to "prove" why they aren't a scam, but haven't presented much showing that they are.  Every single accusation against them for payouts or anything is resolved smoothly and quickly.  Their "template"(That they heavily modified) is also used by the exchange launched by, crap I forget his name, some big celebrity that just launched their own sports betting website.

So in conclusion, you did maybe 5 minutes of research and made a quick post about it.  If you have any evidence or proof of a scam, please present it, otherwise you have nothing and this is coming across as someone as a chip on their shoulder.  Did you lose some money there or something?
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