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legendary
Activity: 1988
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, when you convert your points without putting big amounts each 7 points will give you 0.11 chips
that means 63 points will give you 0.99 chips , while when you conver big amonts every 66 points will give you 1 chip


He is not exploiting anything. You are supposed to get .11 for 7 betcoins. 

This is what I see when i go to convert...




This equals 0.106 chips per 7 Betcoin Points. What they're doing is essentially exploiting the rounding error from 0.106 to 0.11 (as Betcoin doesn't convert in fractions) to get a ~9% bonus.

Betcoin said they round down...so next time you convert..do the math based on how many chips or fraction of chips you got...and you will see that it is less than 1 chip for 66 betcoins. SyGambler has not done anything wrong.

What he said was literally "Typically, the correction is a round down scenario." In other words, that's what's likely going to happen when they fix the issue. Not what happens now. Aka, it is NOT working as intended, and they are going to be fixing it soon. Basic English, my friend.
legendary
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Betcoin.ag Forum Rep - Sportsbook, Casino
We certainly appreciate the feedback and analyzing of the program and potential bug exploits.  We are reviewing all feedback.  

Our great players amaze us everyday with what they are able to find and then utiilize to their favor but that only makes us stronger and we appreciate that.  We have been reviewing this calculation that SyGambler referenced for awhile are were preparing to make a change when and if it became an issue.  Typically, the correction is a round down scenario, but we will keep you informed. 
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007

, when you convert your points without putting big amounts each 7 points will give you 0.11 chips
that means 63 points will give you 0.99 chips , while when you conver big amonts every 66 points will give you 1 chip


He is not exploiting anything. You are supposed to get .11 for 7 betcoins.  

This is what I see when i go to convert...




This equals 0.106 chips per 7 Betcoin Points. What they're doing is essentially exploiting the rounding error from 0.106 to 0.11 (as Betcoin doesn't convert in fractions) to get a ~9% bonus.
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
Hello , I was converting my betcoin points to chips then suddenly a message appeared
Sorry, 5.0.202.160 has been banned.
can I know why ?? is it because I was convering 7 points and repeat the process  Huh
now I can't even open the site and when I open the poker client the same message appears
please check it ASAP , cause I don't have access to anything in your site

That's weird, but I have to ask... why just do 7 at a time and keep repeating? Why not convert all at once?

Agree, did you find some exploit?

ok my account is ok , I didn't contact support so maybe it was an automatic action
I don't know if it's an exploit but here is the thing , when you convert your points without putting big amounts each 7 points will give you 0.11 chips
that means 63 points will give you 0.99 chips , while when you conver big amonts every 66 points will give you 1 chip
you can see that by converting small aounts and especially sevens you will get more chips , but I don't think it's a bug it's just simple math  Huh

[X] Exploiting Bug

no it's not exploiting , it's their fault
when you want to convert your points a message appears and tells you the the minimum convert is 7 points and that would give you 0.11
so the bug is not in the 7 point convert , simply it's not right to give people 1 chip when they convert 66 points
they should review it and they will know that 66 points should give players a little bit more than 1 chip but not 1 chip

You literally just gave a story that is dead on what an exploit would be: "to use a situation so that you get benefit from it, even if it is wrong or unfair to do this"

That said, it's something they definitely need to fix.

He is not exploiting anything. You are supposed to get .11 for 7 betcoins.   If you exchange a larger amount you are not getting the same rate of exchange but a lesser rate. So this if anything is a reverse exploit where you get less than the stated rate unless you do it 7 betcoins at a time. Yes, it should be fixed so we get the stated rate not less if you exchange an amount larger than 7 betcoins.

Next time you exchange a larger amount, say 50 betcoins, do the math, and see what rate of exchange you are getting. Maybe then you will understand that he is correct.

Nice, I think it is not an exploit, it is very simple math to benefit, it is similar that how betcoin gets benefits from us, like if you deposit 1.9mbtc to your address, you will be only credited 1mbtc.
sr. member
Activity: 581
Merit: 250

, when you convert your points without putting big amounts each 7 points will give you 0.11 chips
that means 63 points will give you 0.99 chips , while when you conver big amonts every 66 points will give you 1 chip


He is not exploiting anything. You are supposed to get .11 for 7 betcoins.  

This is what I see when i go to convert...


legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1804
guess who's back
Hello , I was converting my betcoin points to chips then suddenly a message appeared
Sorry, 5.0.202.160 has been banned.
can I know why ?? is it because I was convering 7 points and repeat the process  Huh
now I can't even open the site and when I open the poker client the same message appears
please check it ASAP , cause I don't have access to anything in your site

That's weird, but I have to ask... why just do 7 at a time and keep repeating? Why not convert all at once?

Agree, did you find some exploit?

ok my account is ok , I didn't contact support so maybe it was an automatic action
I don't know if it's an exploit but here is the thing , when you convert your points without putting big amounts each 7 points will give you 0.11 chips
that means 63 points will give you 0.99 chips , while when you conver big amonts every 66 points will give you 1 chip
you can see that by converting small aounts and especially sevens you will get more chips , but I don't think it's a bug it's just simple math  Huh

[X] Exploiting Bug

no it's not exploiting , it's their fault
when you want to convert your points a message appears and tells you the the minimum convert is 7 points and that would give you 0.11
so the bug is not in the 7 point convert , simply it's not right to give people 1 chip when they convert 66 points
they should review it and they will know that 66 points should give players a little bit more than 1 chip but not 1 chip

You literally just gave a story that is dead on what an exploit would be: "to use a situation so that you get benefit from it, even if it is wrong or unfair to do this"

That said, it's something they definitely need to fix.

it's not exploiting a bug , please focus and read it again and you will know that betcoin who is using the bug ( as you like to call it )
it's a bug yes maybe , but it's not in the favor of the players the bug is that 66 points should give you more than 1 chip
the bug is not in the 7 point convert it's in the 66 points convert , betcoin should give their players more than 1 chip when they convert 66 points
it's simple math in their rules minimum convert is 7 points and that gives 0.11 chip then why the hell they are giving only 1 chip for people who are converting 66 points !!!!
if it's ok with you to take less than what you deserve to take so you consider it an exploting
in all big sites who are giving their rake back as points , the more you hold you points to convert them later the more your reward would be
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Hello , I was converting my betcoin points to chips then suddenly a message appeared
Sorry, 5.0.202.160 has been banned.
can I know why ?? is it because I was convering 7 points and repeat the process  Huh
now I can't even open the site and when I open the poker client the same message appears
please check it ASAP , cause I don't have access to anything in your site

That's weird, but I have to ask... why just do 7 at a time and keep repeating? Why not convert all at once?

Agree, did you find some exploit?

ok my account is ok , I didn't contact support so maybe it was an automatic action
I don't know if it's an exploit but here is the thing , when you convert your points without putting big amounts each 7 points will give you 0.11 chips
that means 63 points will give you 0.99 chips , while when you conver big amonts every 66 points will give you 1 chip
you can see that by converting small aounts and especially sevens you will get more chips , but I don't think it's a bug it's just simple math  Huh

[X] Exploiting Bug

no it's not exploiting , it's their fault
when you want to convert your points a message appears and tells you the the minimum convert is 7 points and that would give you 0.11
so the bug is not in the 7 point convert , simply it's not right to give people 1 chip when they convert 66 points
they should review it and they will know that 66 points should give players a little bit more than 1 chip but not 1 chip

You literally just gave a story that is dead on what an exploit would be: "to use a situation so that you get benefit from it, even if it is wrong or unfair to do this"

That said, it's something they definitely need to fix.
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1804
guess who's back
Hello , I was converting my betcoin points to chips then suddenly a message appeared
Sorry, 5.0.202.160 has been banned.
can I know why ?? is it because I was convering 7 points and repeat the process  Huh
now I can't even open the site and when I open the poker client the same message appears
please check it ASAP , cause I don't have access to anything in your site

That's weird, but I have to ask... why just do 7 at a time and keep repeating? Why not convert all at once?

Agree, did you find some exploit?

ok my account is ok , I didn't contact support so maybe it was an automatic action
I don't know if it's an exploit but here is the thing , when you convert your points without putting big amounts each 7 points will give you 0.11 chips
that means 63 points will give you 0.99 chips , while when you conver big amonts every 66 points will give you 1 chip
you can see that by converting small aounts and especially sevens you will get more chips , but I don't think it's a bug it's just simple math  Huh

[X] Exploiting Bug

no it's not exploiting , it's their fault
when you want to convert your points a message appears and tells you the the minimum convert is 7 points and that would give you 0.11
so the bug is not in the 7 point convert , simply it's not right to give people 1 chip when they convert 66 points
they should review it and they will know that 66 points should give players a little bit more than 1 chip but not 1 chip
sr. member
Activity: 581
Merit: 250
Hello , I was converting my betcoin points to chips then suddenly a message appeared
Sorry, 5.0.202.160 has been banned.
can I know why ?? is it because I was convering 7 points and repeat the process  Huh
now I can't even open the site and when I open the poker client the same message appears
please check it ASAP , cause I don't have access to anything in your site

That's weird, but I have to ask... why just do 7 at a time and keep repeating? Why not convert all at once?

Agree, did you find some exploit?

ok my account is ok , I didn't contact support so maybe it was an automatic action
I don't know if it's an exploit but here is the thing , when you convert your points without putting big amounts each 7 points will give you 0.11 chips
that means 63 points will give you 0.99 chips , while when you conver big amonts every 66 points will give you 1 chip
you can see that by converting small aounts and especially sevens you will get more chips , but I don't think it's a bug it's just simple math  Huh

[X] Exploiting Bug
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1804
guess who's back
Hello , I was converting my betcoin points to chips then suddenly a message appeared
Sorry, 5.0.202.160 has been banned.
can I know why ?? is it because I was convering 7 points and repeat the process  Huh
now I can't even open the site and when I open the poker client the same message appears
please check it ASAP , cause I don't have access to anything in your site

That's weird, but I have to ask... why just do 7 at a time and keep repeating? Why not convert all at once?

Agree, did you find some exploit?

ok my account is ok , I didn't contact support so maybe it was an automatic action
I don't know if it's an exploit but here is the thing , when you convert your points without putting big amounts each 7 points will give you 0.11 chips
that means 63 points will give you 0.99 chips , while when you conver big amonts every 66 points will give you 1 chip
you can see that by converting small aounts and especially sevens you will get more chips , but I don't think it's a bug it's just simple math  Huh
legendary
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Hello , I was converting my betcoin points to chips then suddenly a message appeared
Sorry, 5.0.202.160 has been banned.
can I know why ?? is it because I was convering 7 points and repeat the process  Huh
now I can't even open the site and when I open the poker client the same message appears
please check it ASAP , cause I don't have access to anything in your site

That's weird, but I have to ask... why just do 7 at a time and keep repeating? Why not convert all at once?

Agree, did you find some exploit?
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Hello , I was converting my betcoin points to chips then suddenly a message appeared
Sorry, 5.0.202.160 has been banned.
can I know why ?? is it because I was convering 7 points and repeat the process  Huh
now I can't even open the site and when I open the poker client the same message appears
please check it ASAP , cause I don't have access to anything in your site

That's weird, but I have to ask... why just do 7 at a time and keep repeating? Why not convert all at once?
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1804
guess who's back
Hello , I was converting my betcoin points to chips then suddenly a message appeared
Sorry, 5.0.202.160 has been banned.
can I know why ?? is it because I was convering 7 points and repeat the process  Huh
now I can't even open the site and when I open the poker client the same message appears
please check it ASAP , cause I don't have access to anything in your site
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Will Betcoin players have access to these Freebuy tournaments?

http://www.americascardroom.eu/online-poker-promotions/freebuys-super-series-ii/

no I don't think so , cause there was a free buy series before and betcoin didn't have these tourneys


If I remember correctly, Betcoin did run them for a few days last time and then they stopped while WPN kept running these for a much longer time.

You guys are both right and it hasn't been confirmed exactly yet but we will certainly keep you posted.  We certainly want to offer these to our great players.  Thank you for your feedback and suggestions. 

Just looked over that series and it looks awesome. I'd definitely play if Betcoin hosts this as well. How soon before it starts will you know for sure if you're taking part or not?
legendary
Activity: 3738
Merit: 1108
Betcoin.ag Forum Rep - Sportsbook, Casino
Will Betcoin players have access to these Freebuy tournaments?

http://www.americascardroom.eu/online-poker-promotions/freebuys-super-series-ii/

no I don't think so , cause there was a free buy series before and betcoin didn't have these tourneys


If I remember correctly, Betcoin did run them for a few days last time and then they stopped while WPN kept running these for a much longer time.

You guys are both right and it hasn't been confirmed exactly yet but we will certainly keep you posted.  We certainly want to offer these to our great players.  Thank you for your feedback and suggestions. 
sr. member
Activity: 447
Merit: 250
Will Betcoin players have access to these Freebuy tournaments?

http://www.americascardroom.eu/online-poker-promotions/freebuys-super-series-ii/

no I don't think so , cause there was a free buy series before and betcoin didn't have these tourneys


If I remember correctly, Betcoin did run them for a few days last time and then they stopped while WPN kept running these for a much longer time.
sr. member
Activity: 447
Merit: 250
Constant freezes and disconnections since the win 10 "fix" you guys force pushed yesterday. Be before it was working perfectly on Win 10 since it came out on 7/29/15. Not playable this way.

I haven't moved up to Win10 yet, but can you run it in compatibility mode, like we used to have to do with some programs that were designed for XP?

But the fixed that WPN or Betcoin pushed was to fix for Win 10 when there was no fix needed. I am running Win10 so there is no compatibility mode for win 10 in win 10, you are already running it.
I tried to reinstall in compatibility mode for win 8 and win 7 and it still forced me to install the Win 10 fix. This fix removed the software and reinstalls it leaving behind a bunch of crap in the windows registry. I uninstalledl from windows and cleaned registry and reinstalled and seems to be running fine now I hope.
I wish that before pushing updates that they beta test them a little more.  There was no need to do anything to the software as Windows 10 is designed to run anything that runs on Win 7 or later without any issues. That is the way Microsoft designed it.
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1804
guess who's back
Will Betcoin players have access to these Freebuy tournaments?

http://www.americascardroom.eu/online-poker-promotions/freebuys-super-series-ii/

no I don't think so , cause there was a free buy series before and betcoin didn't have these tourneys
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Constant freezes and disconnections since the win 10 "fix" you guys force pushed yesterday. Be before it was working perfectly on Win 10 since it came out on 7/29/15. Not playable this way.

I haven't moved up to Win10 yet, but can you run it in compatibility mode, like we used to have to do with some programs that were designed for XP?
sr. member
Activity: 447
Merit: 250
Constant freezes and disconnections since the win 10 "fix" you guys force pushed yesterday. Be before it was working perfectly on Win 10 since it came out on 7/29/15. Not playable this way.
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