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Can't  remember where I read it some days ago but there is also a "let's take down Betcoin Signature campaigners" conspiration running at the moment by someone I can't remember now.

So Xiao please next time mention it as well 

Actually, I am not wrong. Rakeback points are completely separate in the events tab, and kept apart from casino, sports, surprise box etc. There is not even a 1% chance that the rakeback points listed under events are tainted with anything other than pure poker.

You say something about VIP points, are you even aware of how the system works? VIP points have nothing to do with Betcoin points. The Betcoin points that are comped from the surprise box, from casino play, etc. are denoted as such in the Events tab.

If you had taken the time to actually view your own Events tab in your cashier, then you would have known how utterly impossible it is to confuse comp points from poker, with any other service on the site. The figures I provided were double checked for accuracy and are derived solely from Poker Comp Points.

4924736   03/17/2016 7:22am
(18 hours 10 min ago)   ungod   comp_points   9088.4508   rakeback   20160316   8   137.7038
4854284   03/13/2016 5:33pm
(4 days 7 hours ago)   ungod   comp_points   1.0098   betback   15270234   9   0.0153
3552714   01/16/2016 1:12am
(2 months 1 day ago)   ungod   surprise_box   402         comp_points

Above is an example of a paste from the Events tab. See how easy it is to tell the difference? Please don't try to discredit my factual information, meanwhile grandstanding and refusing to post any facts of your own.

4603792   03/02/2016 2:45am
(2 weeks 1 day ago)   ungod   comp_points   1380.2712   rakeback   20160229   8   20.9132
4646132   03/04/2016 12:34am
(2 weeks 4 min ago)   ungod   comp_points   1745.271   rakeback   20160301   8   26.4435
4646137   03/04/2016 12:35am
(2 weeks 4 min ago)   ungod   comp_points   2174.766   rakeback   20160302   8   32.951
4681804   03/05/2016 6:47pm
(1 week 5 days ago)   ungod   comp_points   1806.387   rakeback   20160303   8   27.3695
4704380   03/06/2016 5:56pm
(1 week 4 days ago)   ungod   comp_points   1562.8932   rakeback   20160304   8   23.6802
4704383   03/06/2016 5:56pm
(1 week 4 days ago)   ungod   comp_points   4106.2758   rakeback   20160305   8   62.2163
4747730   03/08/2016 8:31pm
(1 week 2 days ago)   ungod   comp_points   9942.6096   rakeback   20160306   8   150.6456

Also, I am not sure where all this animosity towards me comes from, until a week or two ago I had never once posted anything in your thread. I have been nothing but courteous to you in private messages, and nothing I have said on the forum is slanderous, mean-spirited, or otherwise. I would appreciate it if you would stop comparing me to others. I am just seeking some genuine customer service here. The numbers do not add up, there they are, run them yourself.

Your math is off.  You assumed that all your VIP points come from poker and fail to consider what you receive from surprise box bonus, casino play, etc.  Also WPN fees are in USD so there is a conversion rate.  Frankly I'm surprised you guys aren't banned.  

All day long you guys fill up the Betcoin chat with garbage and conspire to "take down Betcoin" and "let's take down Xiao" right there in chat.  It's amazing how you bite the hand that feeds you.  Twitchy please just stop it.  You said to show this thread some respect now please act on it.

I'm not sure, but did anyone find anything wrong with my math there? I've been checking this for months periodically and every single time it has been around this amount less than it should be. I really don't like to accuse anyone of anything, but the whole refusing to communicate/refusing to post the earnings...

One has to wonder, if he's skimming a couple % off the top, and getting additional %s (he obv doesn't pay out 100% of what he's getting), and is getting 100% of his player's casino/sportsbook/dice fees, why does he have to keep pushing payments back?  Would he be willing to show his affiliate ledger sheet for the past couple of weeks?

Allow me to be a bit more specific. For this past week 2/29-3/06, I received 358.8 chips from xiao. During this same week, I received 344.2193 chips from betcoin.

My VIP rakeback level is Emerald 2, which pays 36.6%. I went through my hand histories and added up all my WPN fees for the week, which came to $10.70, or approximately 30 chips at the time. Betcoin pays out based on 100% rake paid into WPN, so their payout for the week was approximately 11 chips(10.98). Xiao only receives 50% of WPN fees, so his payout on these same tournaments is approximately 5.6 chips.

You still with me? OK, I subtracted the WPN rakeback from betcoin's amount they paid for the week, this gives us 333.2193 chips. Using a simple algebraic formula from here we can determine the total rake paid into betcoin.     333.2193    =     x          
                                                                                                    36.6              100
X = amount of rake paid into Betcoin. X=910.4352

OK, you still with me? Now, we finally have that elusive rake paid figure that Betcoin uses to pay out our rakeback to us (and presumably the figure they provide our affiliates with)

40% of 910.4352 = 364.174  Let's don't forget to add that 5.6 chips we're owed in WPN tournament fees, this brings the total to 369.774.

You paid 358.8, according to the numbers provided by betcoin, you should have paid 369.774. This is a difference of 2.97%.

This is the case each and every week. Either betcoin provides us with different numbers, or something is being skimmed. I really hope it's the first and not the latter.

If you can tell me how to see my total rake paid (confirmed by betcoin) from a tx history, I'll give you a full bitcoin.

lol @ all in tx history

try figuring out whats going on a little before assuming it's just a bunch of trolls

Lol at the trolls in this thread. Its all in the tx history.

I remember when he first started this, he said "I'll show you your earnings any time you want".

Now he's not?

First of all xiao, that is not me you're resonding to above. Second of all, you said you would communicate with original forum id, this is not true. You have ignored several messages recently from the original forum id. I bring you sign ups but you refuse to show me their earnings? Or even my own earnings? What kind of service is this?? I was decent in my tone and even said this may be a Betcoin issue, but the way you are handling this suggests it is a xiao issue. I would think a little cooperation would be in order here considering I am undoubtedly your highest volume poker player. I guess you can just pay me whatever you feel like sir, but it would be nice to see some hard data.

Will you do the right thing and pay him what you owe then?

really good game.
looks like good.
i will join soon

Ungod- As I've said long ago I'm done responding to you.  Okay dude, I've always sent you 2-5% short and not included WPN fees    Whatever you say buddy.

did you take care of this xiao? do u think just ignore and they will go away?

Additional rakeback going out for some users for the period of 2/29 - 3/6.  Take care!

Hey, you never answered why you got your "data" "supplied" to you in a different way as every other Betcoin affiliate does.  Seems like a reasonable question for people looking to sign up through you and existing customers as other affiliates are able to process RB much quicker. 

Rakeback for 2/29 - 3/6 going out now.  In the event that additional data is supplied to me you may receive additional funds in the coming days for the period of 2/29 - 3/6.  Also referral commission will be separate from your normal rakeback and denoted to make life easier on all of us (also referring yourself is not allowed and I will be operating at a loss if everyone does that).  Take care folks!