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The monumental OSS Cubed Tournament Event has begun!



Over $4.5 MILLION in GUARANTEED prizes!

AND

Take home the Championship Bracelet!







Also there has been a HUGE update to the entire Betcoin platform:



Please report all bugs and components that needs to be added to support!  The new platform will pave the way for new features to be added and is still in beta mode as it was updated very recently.

legendary
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Please be patient with the new monumental update!  Thanks!  Also keep in mind the OSS Cubed is coming up very soon!
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Due to constant DDOS attacks, one will not be able to go directly to the home page from Chrome browsers or IE.  Please use Firefox when signing up for this RB service!

Nevertheless, plenty of action tonight, and there's a lot to look forward to at the poker room.  The BBJ is approaching 30 bitcoins, and the OSS Cubed is coming up in less than a week.

Current state of lobby:

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The BetcoinRakeback.com affiliate system is now live.  Register your account today and start bringing your friends to Betcoin Poker.  You will get 5% of their total rake while they will get 50-140% rakeback!




Furthermore, keep in mind the OSS Cubed Events are coming up.  Scroll up to get more info.
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All rakeback has been processed for the week of 7/25 - 7/31.  GL everyone!
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(I'm locking this thread immediately after this post due to constant spam and fights between players)




OSS Cubed Comes to Betcoin: $4.5 million in Guaranteed Prizes (Expect Overlays)


Not only can you win nearly $200k+ in one online poker tournament, but you can win it in Bitcoins. We know how much potential Bitcoin has in the future. It was once worth a little more than pennies, and now it is at approximately $650.


The OSS Cubed features 3 festivities; MOSS (August 14th - 21st), OSS (August 24th - September 4th), and BOSS (September 7th - 11th). The MOSS features a main event that's an $80+8 buyin with a $150k GTD prizepool. The OSS features a wopping $1,000,000 GTD main event with a $500+40 buyin. Finally, the BOSS features $500k GTD main event. With hundreds of other events during the OSS Cubed festivities, such as $3 buyin $5k GTD's, there's a tournament for everyone.


Full list of events: https://www.americascardroom.eu/online-poker-promotions/oss-cubed/


Register for the tournaments in the lobby. Registration has begun for MOSS:

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On this lovely Sunday morning, there's currently 134 active players on the site, and 244 players logged into the poker client!  Be prepared for more tournament and poker action as more people wake up!




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Sorry, but you currently have negative trust from my perspective, so I will not accept your bid.

Theymos doesn't trust Betcoin, neither should you.



First of all, Theymos never said "I don't trust Betcoin."  You just stated that.  Theymos said that he cannot accept Betcoin.ag's bid because it has negative trust, and accepting the bid would be setting a bad precedent.  But don't put words in people's mouth.

You do know that those scam accusations has NOTHING to do with the POKER ROOM, but involves the CASINO SLOTS PROVIDER.  And that it deals with discrepancies with the stated rules of what counts for a slot machine jackpot to hit?  Why spam that here?  The poker room is part of the WPN and uses totally different software providers (identical to ACR, Blackchip, TruePoker).  Poker is peer to peer, house takes a rake.

Betcoin easily pays out for the $1,000,000 guaranteed, in BTC's, or else WPN wouldn't allow them on the network.  Untrusted people cannot get the connections Betcoin has in terms of poker room provider and sports.

Also your personality, judgment, emotional instability, and biases makes you unfit to be a scam alerter.  Forget about all the times you've cussed me out and made false assumptions about my character, and my income/percentages for this program.  Let's just look at the way you handle a lot of things.

Here's how some of my players feel about his posts in my thread yet he continues to spam my thread for malicious reasons, and he's even acknowledged to me he's purposely being malicious and "attacking" me.



Hey guys,

I'm just here to testimony that this RB service has always been reliable and gave me full satisfaction.

It also saddens me to see twichy seals constantly bashing the betcoin site and this service. No doubt numbers of new players have been thrown away by his constant spamming.

@Twichy : when you don't like a company, you go to their competitors. When you're smart, that is. Apparently, you've found nothing better in life than spam the webs and spend all your time on a site you keep bashing. Get a facking life, m0r0n


Just to say that Xiao is a nice affiliate and that I never had any problems neither my sub affiliate (He rakes high values not tiny tiny low as this loosers posting).

Xiao pays the right amount on time and always answers very quickly to any doubt so I dont understand this losers that keep posting.

And yes I check if the value of rake returned is right and it is.

Betcoin pays very fast and is a nice place to play.





Hey guys,

I'm just here to testimony that this RB service has always been reliable and gave me full satisfaction.

It also saddens me to see twichy seals constantly bashing the betcoin site and this service. No doubt numbers of new players have been thrown away by his constant spamming.

@Twichy : when you don't like a company, you go to their competitors. When you're smart, that is. Apparently, you've found nothing better in life than spam the webs and spend all your time on a site you keep bashing. Get a facking life, m0r0n


This +1.

Xiaoxiao has always been great with his service, always paid the right amount in time and responded to queries very quickly and professionally. I dont know why one or two people have made it their purpose of life to bash him and his service all day long, its quite sad to see really. Ive had nothing but good experiences with the OP, he always paid what he promised and on time (which is a LOT more that can be said about most affs) and would absolutely recommend his rakeback for Betcoin.

When a player of mine posted this:

I always been payed by this affiliate he honors his word and my win rate on betcoin is higher then any other site. It has the weakest players. I honestly think bet coin is doing a great job and I am very negative about online poker rooms in general.

He immediately quoted a review that he made over 1 year ago in an attempt to shame him.  But that was 1 year ago, so clearly that means his opinion of the poker room has changed.

never mind dont sign up on betcoin. I just talked to their customer service very unprofessional and wont answer your question about if a game freezes in a sng do we get a refund. They siad just send a ticket. Screw them all join seals. Worst customer service I have had on any poker site. And they need customers and i play daily and play poker for a living. They thought i already signed up and had money deposited on the site so decided to be snotty and rude to me.  Great customer support. Dudes name was julian i think. GG. Ty for offer though I appreciate you trying to help out poker community but im not dealing with non professional people.


And also another example of Twitchy attacking my players.  When one of my players made this comment in the SWC thread, a totally valid comment:


I can't remember the last time I played tourney on SWC tbh. Sites only good for cash games i mean why play small sngs when you can play overlays and big tourneys on betcoin/wpn.

Twitchy sarcastically assumed he was "shilly" and then used one of his alternates/co-conspirator to give him a bad feedback, the same alternate he used to give me a bad feedback after he already gave me a malicious false feedback awhile ago.



excellent point, not shilly at all







Some more of my players telling him to stop spamming my service thread and their opinions of him:

Xiao, I thought you weren't going to respond to Twitchy anymore. There's no point in arguing with this guy. Not many regs like him either cause he takes up all of supports time when we're the ones that need help....



Can you be a little less cryptic for once and explain what you mean? We aren't all off our meds and we don't all speak spergs so please specify what you mean by shorting people rakeback.

If he has Asperger's or any other mental disability, he shouldn't be in the position he's in, cause his hit or miss tactics of calling out people and businesses could really hurt someone.  His obnoxiousness and mental instability pretty much outweighs his "scam alerts."  

There's more players who've spoken out about him, and people have said stuff to me in private about him which I won't post, but the reason he started to upset me was not because of his issues with Betcoin and Betsoft.  I personally believe Betsoft was incredibly unethical in the way they handled the Jasonort situation.  But he continues to attack my rakeback program by spamming the Betsoft issue and bringing up old poker room issues (that he had gotten wrong anyway).


Some evidence of Twitchy having alternates:




No, I'm leaning towards the fact that he is your alternate.  His claims are nearly identical to yours.  He supports all your posts, but either way it doesn't matter.  You've called out BtcFTW and NooBTC or something like that for doing the same thing.  Yet you do the exact same thing.

Latest posts of Cryptosmoker: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cryptosmoker-511427

Someone that works as hard as Twitchy in his investigations but hasn't logged in for 3 days now?  I can't imagine someone that is like a clone of Twitchy but hasn't logged into the forums for 3 days now.









His actions aren't any better than the recipients of his accusations.  He abuses the little power that he's gained from sitting at the computer nearly 24/7 and calling out businesses with his hit or miss tactics.  

He clearly knew that the CardsChat review of Betcoin Poker had already been removed, but he continued posting it everywhere as if it was still valid.  Anyone with common sense could see that that review was virtually gibberish.



He infers that the reason it was removed was because Betcoin bribed them, but he's got absolutely no proof.  And even if Betcoin did bribe them, that just means he's posting the review of a company that accepts bribes as if it has merit.

He assumes that just because some players are outraged at him, it is the work of Betcoin.  That is not true, the reason I began noticing him was because he continued to spam my thread, and lately with casino related issues that has nothing to do with my rakeback service nor the poker room.

PS: There's a lot more cases in the past where Twitchy had been adamant that he's correct and it turned out that his assumption was wrong.  
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Sorry, but you currently have negative trust from my perspective, so I will not accept your bid.

Theymos doesn't trust Betcoin, neither should you.

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So, you're spewing all this stuff about licensing and stuff then you're trying to refer me to a campaign that isn't licensed in any jurisdiction?  Are you confused?
"...it should be not that difficult to find something more reputable" is not referring you to anyone specifically.

As I have already explained to you several times: The license is only to have a provably identity of the operator. If an operator has stated his provably identity on the website, for what would you need a license?

You are the one who is confused, obviously. Cheesy

Please do not spam this thread sir.  This thread has already turned into a battlefield.  Also your trust rating and post count is not exactly consistent with the image you are trying to depict to the community.



Seems like Betcoin doesn't consider this forum (or Xiaoxiao) worth much as far as recruiting new signups.  


No, I can't even count how many incorrect assumptions you've made about me and my service thread.  We both know you and a few others had been continuously nagging Betcoin to reduce my percentage and by extension the players' percentages.  Betcoin was reluctant to do so but simply couldn't take the continuous demands over the years.  

In the end this reduction only benefited your ego.  The players obviously doesn't want this to happen.  I obviously don't want this to happen, and Betcoin isn't too thrilled about reducing a pool 200-300 rotating players' additional rb.  So in the end the only thing that benefited from all this is your ego.

You're lying or an idiot if you think Betcoin reduced your commision because I was nagging them to do so.  

How do we even know they reduced them? You've refused to be transparent.   Perhaps nothing was changed and you're just pocketing the difference.  

Another assumption about me or this service that turns out to be untrue.  First of all, rakeback is still at 40% until August 8th.

Currently I'm operating at a slight loss, which is why additional rakeback will be 33% beginning August 8th.  The 33% will be permanent.



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So, you're spewing all this stuff about licensing and stuff then you're trying to refer me to a campaign that isn't licensed in any jurisdiction?  Are you confused?
"...it should be not that difficult to find something more reputable" is not referring you to anyone specifically.

As I have already explained to you several times: The license is only to have a provably identity of the operator. If an operator has stated his provably identity on the website, for what would you need a license?

You are the one who is confused, obviously. Cheesy
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^^Right.  Very valid points and questions.

However, a quick investigation of the other gambling operations advertised on this forum demonstrates that there are not many who do have a license of any kind, nor has their RNG's been audited and certified by any governing bodies.  That seems to be the unregulated decentralized nature of the bitcoin economy.
Did I complain about the RNG?

To have a license or not is only relevant if the site is a publicly approven scam like betcoin.ag or do not provably state the name of the operator.

Publicly approved scams and not provably state the name of the operator are symptoms of the unregulated and decentralized bitcoins, but they are not the nature of the bitcoin economy.


But, I ask you this: Is it not substantial at all that some of the software providers Betcoin.ag contracts out to, like the Winning Poker Network, are licensed in some jurisdictions and there have been audits conducted on their RNG's?
No. It is not substantial at all that the software provider Winning Poker Network is licensed in Costa Rica. A Costa Rica license is for players useless. The only help a Costa Rica license deliver is the name of the operator.

I am not aware that any software provider do financial audits of their contract partners, therefore software providers are useless for players!

What I do not understand is why you persist to promote a publicly approven scam, while there are other operators with signature campaigns? Is it because their payment is too good to be true compared to other campaigns or what is the reason?


Which campaign are you talking about that is licensed, regulated, and more reputable then the Winning Poker Network?  Refer me to them and I will check it out.
There is obviously a misunderstood on your behalf. Licensed does not mean "regulated". A Costa Rica or Curacao eGaming license does not regulate anything!

As the Winning Poker Network allows a publicly approven scam to use their poker client and name, it should be not that difficult to find something more reputable. Wink

If I take a look at betcoin.ag, then almost any other signature campaign should be more reputable, but you will likely get paid less.


So, you're spewing all this stuff about licensing and stuff then you're trying to refer me to a campaign that isn't licensed in any jurisdiction?  Are you confused? 
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^^Right.  Very valid points and questions.

However, a quick investigation of the other gambling operations advertised on this forum demonstrates that there are not many who do have a license of any kind, nor has their RNG's been audited and certified by any governing bodies.  That seems to be the unregulated decentralized nature of the bitcoin economy.
Did I complain about the RNG?

To have a license or not is only relevant if the site is a publicly approven scam like betcoin.ag or do not provably state the name of the operator.

Publicly approved scams and not provably state the name of the operator are symptoms of the unregulated and decentralized bitcoins, but they are not the nature of the bitcoin economy.


But, I ask you this: Is it not substantial at all that some of the software providers Betcoin.ag contracts out to, like the Winning Poker Network, are licensed in some jurisdictions and there have been audits conducted on their RNG's?
No. It is not substantial at all that the software provider Winning Poker Network is licensed in Costa Rica. A Costa Rica license is for players useless. The only help a Costa Rica license deliver is the name of the operator.

I am not aware that any software provider do financial audits of their contract partners, therefore software providers are useless for players!

What I do not understand is why you persist to promote a publicly approven scam, while there are other operators with signature campaigns? Is it because their payment is too good to be true compared to other campaigns or what is the reason?


Which campaign are you talking about that is licensed, regulated, and more reputable then the Winning Poker Network?  Refer me to them and I will check it out.
There is obviously a misunderstood on your behalf. Licensed does not mean "regulated". A Costa Rica or Curacao eGaming license does not regulate anything!

As the Winning Poker Network allows a publicly approven scam to use their poker client and name, it should be not that difficult to find something more reputable. Wink

If I take a look at betcoin.ag, then almost any other signature campaign should be more reputable, but you will likely get paid less.
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Betcoin.ag Poker Terms of Service (TOS)

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BetcoinPoker.com advises You to read all of these documents carefully as each forms part of the legally binding agreement between You and BetcoinPoker.com

-> It is juridical not possible to have a legally binding agreement with a domain name! Legally binding agreements are only possible between legal entities or private persons. The “Terms of Service” does also neither state the name of the operator nor a gambling license (if any exist), nothing!

-> False and misleading statements are the criminal offense of fraud!

Fraud Act 2016

2 Fraud by false representation

(1) A person is in breach of this section if he—

(a) dishonestly makes a false representation, and

(b) intends, by making the representation—

(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or

(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.

(2) A representation is false if—

(a) it is untrue or misleading, and

(b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.

(3) “Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of—

(a) the person making the representation, or

(b) any other person.

(4) A representation may be express or implied.

(5) For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention).


Betcoin.ag governed in Hong Kong or in Curacao or nowhere?

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25. GOVERNING LAW

These Agreements shall be governed by and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong. You irrevocably agree to submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of Curacao in The Netherlands Antilles for the settlement of any dispute or matters arising out of or concerning these Agreements or their enforceability.

Based on what shall the alleged agreements with Betcoin.ag be governed and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong?

How could “These Agreements” be governed and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong, while online gambling is not allowed in Hong Kong? Does this make sense?

If the Betcoin.ag operation shall be governed by and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong, why do you need to irrevocably agree to submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of Curacao in The Netherlands Antilles for the settlement of any dispute or matters arising out of or concerning these Agreements or their enforceability?

Is the company who operates Betcoin.ag incorporated in Curacao and holds a worthless Curacao eGaming license?

If this is the case, what is the name of the company? Why is the name of the operator not stated on their website?

If Betcoin.ag has a valid license, why do they not state the seal on their website?

Do you feel comfortable to send your Bitcoin to something while you do not know who the operator is?

Would it matter for you if this something would have a gambling license, or do you not care at all?

^^Right.  Very valid points and questions.

However, a quick investigation of the other gambling operations advertised on this forum demonstrates that there are not many who do have a license of any kind, nor has their RNG's been audited and certified by any governing bodies.  That seems to be the unregulated decentralized nature of the bitcoin economy.
Did I complain about the RNG?

To have a license or not is only relevant if the site is a publicly approven scam like betcoin.ag or do not provably state the name of the operator.

Publicly approved scams and not provably state the name of the operator are symptoms of the unregulated and decentralized bitcoins, but they are not the nature of the bitcoin economy.  


But, I ask you this: Is it not substantial at all that some of the software providers Betcoin.ag contracts out to, like the Winning Poker Network, are licensed in some jurisdictions and there have been audits conducted on their RNG's?
No. It is not substantial at all that the software provider Winning Poker Network is licensed in Costa Rica. A Costa Rica license is for players useless. The only help a Costa Rica license deliver is the name of the operator.

I am not aware that any software provider do financial audits of their contract partners, therefore software providers are useless for players!

What I do not understand is why you persist to promote a publicly approven scam, while there are other operators with signature campaigns? Is it because their payment is too good to be true compared to other campaigns or what is the reason?

Which campaign are you talking about that is licensed, regulated, and more reputable then the Winning Poker Network?  Refer me to them and I will check it out.
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Excellent points as usual Nubitcoiner.
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Twitchy trolls HARD. This guy is more unreal than I expected. It's because of him we're short 7% in rakeback now. unreal.... he also left me neg feedback for saying SWC tourneys are weak vs WPN.... on another name.

Just google Twitchyseal and see what you get:


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This person created another thread today with a fabricated skype log (or perhaps an authentic skype log with a fake TwitchySeal)  https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-back-it-again-offering-me-help-trash-betcoin-proof-below

Betcoin Andrew plays along:

(Read bottom to top)



Ajun previous chat meltdown.

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you been accused of paying people to lie


Betcoin has been caught paying people to lie.  I've never once heard that accusation leveled against Twitchy, let alone any proof of it happening.


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and you are an admitted multi-accounter.  Your credibility is highly questionable to say the least.

Again, that's not what that means.  By your logic, you are also an admitted multi-accounter.  Should we hold your credibility to be highly questionable? 

https://www.betcoin.ag/twitchyseal-offered-me-money-instagram-lie-about-betcoin

I do not have multiple accounts on any site and you know that twitchy....A multi-accounter is somebody who opens multiple accounts on the same casino under different names which is against the TOC's on most sites and will get one banned if discovered.

The funny thing about this is that it's what I'm talking about too!

...because that person then went on to say that Betcoin paid him to make that up and post it.  And he showed the transcript.  And payment.

Also, I'm not Twitchy.  Stop trying to throw shade.  You're bad at it.

You have multiple WPN accounts.  By your logic, that's multi-accounting and you cannot be trusted.

If it's not multi-accounting (because of course it isn't), then you have to admit that what Twitchy is doing also isn't multi-accounting.

So which is it...are you both bad or both good?  You can't have it both ways just because you don't like what he's saying about your employer.
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Betcoin.ag Poker Terms of Service (TOS)

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BetcoinPoker.com advises You to read all of these documents carefully as each forms part of the legally binding agreement between You and BetcoinPoker.com

-> It is juridical not possible to have a legally binding agreement with a domain name! Legally binding agreements are only possible between legal entities or private persons. The “Terms of Service” does also neither state the name of the operator nor a gambling license (if any exist), nothing!

-> False and misleading statements are the criminal offense of fraud!

Fraud Act 2016

2 Fraud by false representation

(1) A person is in breach of this section if he—

(a) dishonestly makes a false representation, and

(b) intends, by making the representation—

(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or

(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.

(2) A representation is false if—

(a) it is untrue or misleading, and

(b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.

(3) “Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of—

(a) the person making the representation, or

(b) any other person.

(4) A representation may be express or implied.

(5) For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention).


Betcoin.ag governed in Hong Kong or in Curacao or nowhere?

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25. GOVERNING LAW

These Agreements shall be governed by and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong. You irrevocably agree to submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of Curacao in The Netherlands Antilles for the settlement of any dispute or matters arising out of or concerning these Agreements or their enforceability.

Based on what shall the alleged agreements with Betcoin.ag be governed and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong?

How could “These Agreements” be governed and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong, while online gambling is not allowed in Hong Kong? Does this make sense?

If the Betcoin.ag operation shall be governed by and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong, why do you need to irrevocably agree to submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of Curacao in The Netherlands Antilles for the settlement of any dispute or matters arising out of or concerning these Agreements or their enforceability?

Is the company who operates Betcoin.ag incorporated in Curacao and holds a worthless Curacao eGaming license?

If this is the case, what is the name of the company? Why is the name of the operator not stated on their website?

If Betcoin.ag has a valid license, why do they not state the seal on their website?

Do you feel comfortable to send your Bitcoin to something while you do not know who the operator is?

Would it matter for you if this something would have a gambling license, or do you not care at all?

^^Right.  Very valid points and questions.

However, a quick investigation of the other gambling operations advertised on this forum demonstrates that there are not many who do have a license of any kind, nor has their RNG's been audited and certified by any governing bodies.  That seems to be the unregulated decentralized nature of the bitcoin economy.
Did I complain about the RNG?

To have a license or not is only relevant if the site is a publicly proven scam like betcoin.ag or do not provably state the name of the operator.

Publicly approved scams and not provably state the name of the operator are symptoms of the unregulated and decentralized bitcoins, but they are not the nature of the bitcoin economy.  


But, I ask you this: Is it not substantial at all that some of the software providers Betcoin.ag contracts out to, like the Winning Poker Network, are licensed in some jurisdictions and there have been audits conducted on their RNG's?
No. It is not substantial at all that the software provider Winning Poker Network is licensed in Costa Rica. A Costa Rica license is for players useless. The only help a Costa Rica license deliver is the name of the operator.

I am not aware that any software provider do financial audits of their contract partners, therefore software providers are useless for players!

What I do not understand is why you persist to promote a publicly approven scam, while there are other operators with signature campaigns? Is it because their payment is too good to be true compared to other campaigns or what is the reason?
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....You gave me negative trust first....then I gave you negative trust in my defense.  

You've already summed it up quite nicely.

Yes.  You gave me negative trust for ignoring your evidence, but I don't trust your evidence because you have serious credibility issues.  Not only has your IP been banned for multi-accounting which gives you motive to FUD, but I know for a fact that you photo-shop over posts and practice misinformation techniques.

I was banned for posting the same evidence that you choose to ignore on betcoin forums.  After being banned, I have created tons of accounts to post the same evidence.  I was not banned for multi-accounting, in any form or violating any terms - Even if I were, it's pathetic you have no other way to defend Betcoin. 

Ignore the evidence and discredit the guy who presents it instead.

Pathetic.
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