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Topic: ███►BetcoinRakeback.com | 58-83% RAKEBACK [Here ONLY] | ACR WPN Tourneys◄███ - page 4. (Read 100394 times)

legendary
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This is disappointing although it does make sense considering all of the rake back avenues betcoin offers. 

Since this new rate is 17% lower than the rate some of us signed up under are there any additional benefits coming?  Perhaps a rake race?

Yes, having a rake race is highly likely in the future.  I've actually pondered organizing a rake race in the past, but I didn't really have a good avenue or platform to organize it.  Now that I have a site nearing its completion, I will begin thinking of extra promotions I can add to this program.
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This is disappointing although it does make sense considering all of the rake back avenues betcoin offers. 

Since this new rate is 17% lower than the rate some of us signed up under are there any additional benefits coming?  Perhaps a rake race?
legendary
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Announcement:  Due to the constant complaining regarding the high percentage I am able to offer, management has notified me that my commission has been reduced.

Beginning the week of August 8th (in 17 days), additional rakeback will be reduced to 33%.  I know this may upset some of you, but this is mandatory.  If I don't make this reduction, I will be operating at a heavy loss, which obviously isn't feasible.

Referrals will continue to be 5% of the player's net rake, which is unbelievably high considering the high volume players will put in on this program.  Many sub affiliates of mine have been consistently getting 50-300 mbtc each week just for referring high volume players dying for a deal like this.

Anyhow, the 33% will be permanent beginning August 8th, and it cannot go any lower in the future.  I will continue to bargain for the highest percentages for you guys.  Take care!
legendary
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  Don't you think that is slander/libel?


That's like the 10th time you've said those words and you STILL don't know what they mean.  Even though people have told you what they mean!

You can't be this dumb.
legendary
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This is a hilarious thread.

ITT, we find gems such as:

1) "NOOOO, it was the casino part of our website that scammed players, so you can still trust the poker part"
2) "WHY DO YOU GUYS REPEATEDLY KEEP POINTING OUT THAT THE SITE I AM SPAMMING IN AN EFFORT TO PUT MONEY IN MY POCKETS IS ALWAYS STEALING FROM THE PLAYERS?Huh? c'mon be more respectful of my hustle"
3) "Don't troll us because we're a dishonest operation, you have to have standards even if we have none"
4) "What?? I'm just an affiliate that promotes and convinces players to sign up to a site that offers only me the ability to give the best rakeback deals to players...it's not like I'm responsible for what happens to those players afterwards.  C'mon, I barely have any affiliation with the site."

Please carry on. 

^^^also not my alt account
newbie
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This is a hilarious thread.

ITT, we find gems such as:

1) "NOOOO, it was the casino part of our website that scammed players, so you can still trust the poker part"
2) "WHY DO YOU GUYS REPEATEDLY KEEP POINTING OUT THAT THE SITE I AM SPAMMING IN AN EFFORT TO PUT MONEY IN MY POCKETS IS ALWAYS STEALING FROM THE PLAYERS?Huh? c'mon be more respectful of my hustle"
3) "Don't troll us because we're a dishonest operation, you have to have standards even if we have none"
4) "What?? I'm just an affiliate that promotes and convinces players to sign up to a site that offers only me the ability to give the best rakeback deals to players...it's not like I'm responsible for what happens to those players afterwards.  C'mon, I barely have any affiliation with the site."

Please carry on. 
legendary
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Seriosuly though, go report me in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg15630335;topicseen#msg15630335

Im not gonna waste my time telling you why your accusation is retarded since you don't give a fuck what I have to say.  Let them tell you.

Why would I report you to a thread?  I don't distrust you; I simply don't like the way you go about doing things.  Why would you give me 4 negative trusts all regarding the same topic?  Don't you think that is slander/libel?


It's not a thread to report people you don't trust.  It's a thread to report known alt accounts.

Cryptosmoker is not me though, so it would be a waste of time unless you believe you can prove me wrong.  (you can't)
legendary
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Seriosuly though, go report me in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg15630335;topicseen#msg15630335

Im not gonna waste my time telling you why your accusation is retarded since you don't give a fuck what I have to say.  Let them tell you.

Why would I report you to a thread?  I don't distrust you; I simply don't like the way you go about doing things.  Why would you give me 4 negative trusts all regarding the same topic?  Don't you think that is slander/libel?
legendary
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Seriosuly though, go report me in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg15630335;topicseen#msg15630335

Im not gonna waste my time telling you why your accusation is retarded since you don't give a fuck what I have to say.  Let them tell you.
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I am not cryptosmoker.  Betcoin should not be trusted.  What else is there to explain?
legendary
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Currently Betcoin has numerous scam accusations against them that have not been addressed.  They should not be trusted.



You do know that those scam accusations has NOTHING to do with the POKER ROOM, but involves the CASINO SLOTS PROVIDER, correct?  And that it deals with discrepancies with the stated rules of what counts for a slot machine jackpot to hit?  Why spam that here?  The poker room is part of the WPN and uses totally different software providers (identical to ACR, Blackchip, TruePoker).





Also care to explain this:


I don't know what you mean by "abuses his rep" or "etc" but I do not reply to my own post with alts.  

Hey Twitchy nice job.
Seriously, I thought this thread would just be like all the others with betcoin supporters pretending to be even dumber than they actually are.  Nice surprise.

Well I guess Lauda wasnt technically a betcoin supporter.  Guess thats why it ended ok.


Yep I can confirm the cryptosmoker is twitchyseal. Right after i posted on swc thread he gave me a neg feedback with cryptosmoker. Dudes unreal.
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legendary
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Currently Betcoin has numerous scam accusations against them that have not been addressed.  They should not be trusted.

legendary
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Xiao, you didn't answer the question, silly.

You did the exact same thing that Jessica White does constantly...ignored the question and goes off on an unrelated tangent.

Let me ask you again, and it's fine to give me a one word answer yes or no:

Would you be ok with me doing to you the same thing that you did to Twitchy?

I did answer your question.  Scroll up.  At any rate I'm not obligated to respond to you because you bring up Betcoin management issue and non relevant stuff.  I've told Twitchy this in PM.  Everything that you guys have brought up, I've brought up to management way before you guys have.

Anyway here was my answer if you just scroll up:

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I don't berate your contacts nor do I lurk in your service thread or businesses each day posting spam and off topic stuff.

Look at some of the things Twitchy has done and the way some of my players feel about him:

When one of my players made this comment in the SWC thread, a totally valid comment:

That isn't a yes or no answer.  That is a deflection. 

If you cannot give me a yes or no answer, I'll have to assume that your answer is "yes", you would be ok with me doing to you what you did to Twitchy.  I'll get to work on that tomorrow unless you correct me.
legendary
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Xiao, you didn't answer the question, silly.

You did the exact same thing that Jessica White does constantly...ignored the question and goes off on an unrelated tangent.

Let me ask you again, and it's fine to give me a one word answer yes or no:

Would you be ok with me doing to you the same thing that you did to Twitchy?

I did answer your question.  Scroll up.  At any rate I'm not obligated to respond to you because you bring up Betcoin management issue and non relevant stuff.  I've told Twitchy this in PM.  Everything that you guys have brought up, I've brought up to management way before you guys have.

Anyway here was my answer if you just scroll up:

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I don't berate your contacts nor do I lurk in your service thread or businesses each day posting spam and off topic stuff.

Look at some of the things Twitchy has done and the way some of my players feel about him:

When one of my players made this comment in the SWC thread, a totally valid comment:
legendary
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Xiao, you didn't answer the question, silly.

You did the exact same thing that Jessica White does constantly...ignored the question and goes off on an unrelated tangent.

Let me ask you again, and it's fine to give me a one word answer yes or no:

Would you be ok with me doing to you the same thing that you did to Twitchy?
legendary
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Yep I can confirm the cryptosmoker is twitchyseal. Right after i posted on swc thread he gave me a neg feedback with cryptosmoker. Dudes unreal.
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sr. member
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Yep I can confirm the cryptosmoker is twitchyseal. Right after i posted on swc thread he gave me a neg feedback with cryptosmoker. Dudes unreal.
legendary
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A lot of players have been complaining that in the tweet where SWC stated that the rake had been lowered, they neglected to mention that they actually increased the rake on tournaments. Has anyone heard anything about tournament rake increases or by how much it's been increased?

it looks like it was increased by less than 2%. I don't like how they went about it and they should have made an announcement about it for sure.
it's still lower than any other site tho.



I think it's a little more than 2%...5 chip tourneys went from 4.90 + 0.10 chips to 4.70 + 0.30 chips = 200% increase.

I can't remember the last time I played tourney on SWC tbh. Sites only good for cash games i mean why play small sngs when you can play overlays and big tourneys on betcoin/wpn.

excellent point, not shilly at all




You're right about the sarcasm part. 

You don't think that was a shilly comment? 

Co-conspirator maybe
, but I am not responsible for crytosmokers actions.

I do agree with him though, except for the 1,000 btc part.



No, I'm leaning towards the fact that he is your alternate.  His claims are nearly identical to yours.  He supports all your posts, but either way it doesn't matter.  You've called out BtcFTW and NooBTC or something like that for doing the same thing.  Yet you do the exact same thing.

Latest posts of Cryptosmoker: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cryptosmoker-511427

Someone that works as hard as Twitchy in his investigations but hasn't logged in for 3 days now?  I can't imagine someone that is like a clone of Twitchy but hasn't logged into the forums for 3 days now.



legendary
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A lot of players have been complaining that in the tweet where SWC stated that the rake had been lowered, they neglected to mention that they actually increased the rake on tournaments. Has anyone heard anything about tournament rake increases or by how much it's been increased?

it looks like it was increased by less than 2%. I don't like how they went about it and they should have made an announcement about it for sure.
it's still lower than any other site tho.



I think it's a little more than 2%...5 chip tourneys went from 4.90 + 0.10 chips to 4.70 + 0.30 chips = 200% increase.

I can't remember the last time I played tourney on SWC tbh. Sites only good for cash games i mean why play small sngs when you can play overlays and big tourneys on betcoin/wpn.

excellent point, not shilly at all




You're right about the sarcasm part. 

You don't think that was a shilly comment? 

Co-conspirator maybe, but I am not responsible for crytosmokers actions.

I do agree with him though, except for the 1,000 btc part.

legendary
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I simply openly urged them to do something.  It's their choice.  It's not a bribe or anything.  There's nothing unethical about that.

Let me ask you this.  Would you be ok with me openly urging MY contacts to leave YOU negative feedback?  

I don't berate your contacts nor do I lurk in your service thread or businesses each day posting spam and off topic stuff.

Look at some of the things Twitchy has done and the way some of my players feel about him:

When one of my players made this comment in the SWC thread, a totally valid comment:


I can't remember the last time I played tourney on SWC tbh. Sites only good for cash games i mean why play small sngs when you can play overlays and big tourneys on betcoin/wpn.

He sarcastically assumed he was "shilly" and then used one of his alternates/co-conspirator to give him a bad feedback, the same alternate he used to give me a bad feedback after he already gave me a malicious false feedback awhile ago.



excellent point, not shilly at all







Some more of my players telling him to stop spamming my service thread and their opinions of him:

Xiao, I thought you weren't going to respond to Twitchy anymore. There's no point in arguing with this guy. Not many regs like him either cause he takes up all of supports time when we're the ones that need help....



Can you be a little less cryptic for once and explain what you mean? We aren't all off our meds and we don't all speak spergs so please specify what you mean by shorting people rakeback.

If he has Asperger's, he shouldn't be in the position he's in, cause his hit or miss tactics of calling out people and businesses could really hurt someone.  His obnoxiousness and mental instability pretty much outweighs his "scam alerts."  

There are more players who've spoken out about him, and people have said stuff to me in private about him which I won't post, but the reason he started to upset me was not because of his issues with Betcoin and Betsoft.  I personally believe Betsoft was incredibly unethical in the way they handled the Jasonort situation.  But he continues to attack my rakeback program by spamming the Betsoft issue and bringing up old poker room issues (that he had gotten wrong anyway).
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