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legendary
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Your post regarding user 'Betcoin.ag' has little to do with this thread.  'Betcoin.ag' received its negative ratings because of its problems with its casino provider.  This is the poker room which has little to do with the casino.  The software is separate and is the same as WPN's software provider, and Betcoin also shares tournaments with WPN.


You tried to use that faulty logic in the past.  Yet you couldn't answer this very simple response:

This is an issue with the CASINO PROVIDER and THEIR CASINO SLOTS.  Has NOTHING to do with the poker room.

So you think Betcoin is unethical with their casino but ethical with their poker?  That's a REALLY large leap in logic.  Especially for a site that's been quite unethical with their poker room in the past.

Also, the WTN doesn't 'trust' Betcoin.  It's a std skin deal.  When a player buys into a tournament, Betcoin pays that amount to the network (which comes from the player's account) and if a player on the skin wins, the network pays the skin for them to cover the player's new balance. 
legendary
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The blacklist also has SWC Poker on there.  Blacklisting both Betcoin and SWC Poker was quite unreasonable.  I don't see a #3 spot.  I just see it as "avoid".  It's also interesting that CardsChat didn't put PokerStars on the list, after they did what many considered very appalling by dishonoring hard earned rewards at the end of the year.

Its reason on why to avoid Betcoin's poker room was also quite unclear and incoherent:



Your post regarding user 'Betcoin.ag' has little to do with this thread.  'Betcoin.ag' received its negative ratings because of its problem with its casino provider.  This is the poker room which has little to do with the casino.  The software is separate and is the same as WPN's software provider, and Betcoin also shares tournaments with WPN.

Also my OP says:

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*Please do not spam this thread.

Can you please respect this?


Edit- A day after you posted this, the blacklist has removed Betcoin Poker from the list.  https://www.cardschat.com/blacklisted.php

legendary
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A few things to note:

Congrats to Betcoin for the cardschat #3 spot on the blacklist  for July 2016.  Not an easy thing to do.


Solid rep too on this forum...





legendary
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Few things to note: the BBJ is nearing 30 bitcoins or ~$20,000.  The it's pretty tough to hit; the terms are quad jacks must lose to a higher hand, but it'll happen sooner or later.  I've seen worse beats than that on several occasions in live let alone online.

I still have some players asking why the warning to time out is so short.  I agree, however, there is a way to resolve that issue.

Click the settings button:





Then select Auto Engage Time Bank:


newbie
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Just to say that Xiao is a nice affiliate and that I never had any problems neither my sub affiliate (He rakes high values not tiny tiny low as this loosers posting).

Xiao pays the right amount on time and always answers very quickly to any doubt so I dont understand this losers that keep posting.

And yes I check if the value of rake returned is right and it is.

Betcoin pays very fast and is a nice place to play.

legendary
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Incorrect.  Another assumption that you were 100% sure about that you got wrong.  Please man, I really don't have time for your antics.  I've got another job besides managing all my players' RB.





So you admit that you have a special relationship with them where you get paid a different amount than all other affiliates?  Something we said and you denied until now.



Pretty sure he's admitted this before.  But when I asked him to for the details he said something like "no, and I won't give you my the number on my passport either"

Not sure if he's really as dumb as he's acting with the whole "Im just affiliate for poker, Betcoin:Government Xiao:Library/Community Center" argument.  Or even better "I'm just level 1 affiliate generating under 1btc/month, poor me" (meanwhile he creates website and sig spamcaign focused on betcoin only.  No other site.  Just betcoin.
Also, he thinks comic sans makes people relax.



Oh ok, sorry for rehashing the old news.  It's so hard to keep up with all the lies sometimes!

I think it's important to point out that Xiao has a special, insider relationship with Betcoin.  He just admitted it himself!  And if he wanted to help out his loyal players, he could exert his influence on them to encourage them to do the right thing.  Like with the overraking (which he didn't do) and now with this Betsoft scam issue. 

I agree that he's probably not as dumb as he plays, and he's probably not that bad of a guy, it's likely he's just in a little over his head.  We should all encourage him to do the right thing with situations like this because in the end it's actually going to make him MORE money.
legendary
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Incorrect.  Another assumption that you were 100% sure about that you got wrong.  Please man, I really don't have time for your antics.  I've got another job besides managing all my players' RB.





So you admit that you have a special relationship with them where you get paid a different amount than all other affiliates?  Something we said and you denied until now.



Pretty sure he's admitted this before.  But when I asked him to for the details he said something like "no, and I won't give you my the number on my passport either"

Not sure if he's really as dumb as he's acting with the whole "Im just affiliate for poker, Betcoin:Government Xiao:Library/Community Center" argument.  Or even better "I'm just level 1 affiliate generating under 1btc/month, poor me" (meanwhile he creates website and sig spamcaign focused on betcoin only.  No other site.  Just betcoin.
Also, he thinks comic sans makes people relax.

legendary
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Incorrect.  Another assumption that you were 100% sure about that you got wrong.  Please man, I really don't have time for your antics.  I've got another job besides managing all my players' RB.





So you admit that you have a special relationship with them where you get paid a different amount than all other affiliates?  Something we said and you denied until now.

legendary
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This is an issue with the CASINO PROVIDER and THEIR CASINO SLOTS.  Has NOTHING to do with the poker room.

So you think Betcoin is unethical with their casino but ethical with their poker?  That's a REALLY large leap in logic.  Especially for a site that's been quite unethical with their poker room in the past.

Also, the WTN doesn't 'trust' Betcoin.  It's a std skin deal.  When a player buys into a tournament, Betcoin pays that amount to the network (which comes from the player's account) and if a player on the skin wins, the network pays the skin for them to cover the player's new balance.  

What's up dark days.

Xiao has this shit all of over the place, this is thread #4 I think.  wtf

Here we go:

Xiao is a betcoin.ag affiliate.

Betcoin is a (scummy) site that has casino, sportsbook and poker.

He returns most of his commission that he gets from poker and keeps all the sports and casino revenue for himself.  

If you want to play bitcoin poker I suggest checking out this shill free/affiliate free thread


 



Based on what you're saying, so if the government has problems, that means all the programs and establishments of the government has problems?  Let's not use the road the government builds.  How about the libraries and community centers?

This is the poker room dude.  It's a separate software provider (a very reputable one with WPN), and yeah, one of the highest rakeback in all of online poker.  Please stick to posting in other threads.  You're pissing off a lot of players on this program.  You obviously know that, because you're the type of person that is willing to attack anyone that is semi-related to the entity that you have a problem with.


Not sure if you're that ignorant or just fucking around, but whatever.  I'm keeping people informed with facts and evidence.

The money you profit from this project comes almost entirely from the casino and sportsbook revenue generated by your signups.

Betcoin pays affiliates a commission based on how much rake their signups pay while playing poker and how much they lose in the casino or sportsbook.


Xiao is trying to attract people who play poker by offering to return the affiliate fee he receives for their revenue generated from poker. Xiao has a special deal with Betcoin.  They pay him MORE than the top tier, which allows him to easily poach other affiliates signups and essentially lock up most serious poker players.  If a player signs up under someone else, they create a new account when they hear about Xiao usually.

Many poker players also enjoy gambling on casino games or sports and as a top affiliate,  Xiao receives at least 35% of his players sports losses and 50% of casino losses.  Maybe more (special deal, remember?)! He keeps all that.

Source: https://www.betcoin.ag/affiliates



Incorrect.  Another assumption that you were 100% sure about that you got wrong.  Please man, I really don't have time for your antics.  I've got another job besides managing all my players' RB.



legendary
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This is an issue with the CASINO PROVIDER and THEIR CASINO SLOTS.  Has NOTHING to do with the poker room.

So you think Betcoin is unethical with their casino but ethical with their poker?  That's a REALLY large leap in logic.  Especially for a site that's been quite unethical with their poker room in the past.

Also, the WTN doesn't 'trust' Betcoin.  It's a std skin deal.  When a player buys into a tournament, Betcoin pays that amount to the network (which comes from the player's account) and if a player on the skin wins, the network pays the skin for them to cover the player's new balance. 

What's up dark days.

Xiao has this shit all of over the place, this is thread #4 I think.  wtf

Here we go:

Xiao is a betcoin.ag affiliate.

Betcoin is a (scummy) site that has casino, sportsbook and poker.

He returns most of his commission that he gets from poker and keeps all the sports and casino revenue for himself.  

If you want to play bitcoin poker I suggest checking out this shill free/affiliate free thread


 



Based on what you're saying, so if the government has problems, that means all the programs and establishments of the government has problems?  Let's not use the road the government builds.  How about the libraries and community centers?

This is the poker room dude.  It's a separate software provider (a very reputable one with WPN), and yeah, one of the highest rakeback in all of online poker.  Please stick to posting in other threads.  You're pissing off a lot of players on this program.  You obviously know that, because you're the type of person that is willing to attack anyone that is semi-related to the entity that you have a problem with.


Not sure if you're that ignorant or just fucking around, but whatever.  I'm keeping people informed with facts and evidence.

The money you profit from this project comes almost entirely from the casino and sportsbook revenue generated by your signups.

Betcoin pays affiliates a commission based on how much rake their signups pay while playing poker and how much they lose in the casino or sportsbook.


Xiao is trying to attract people who play poker by offering to return the affiliate fee he receives for their revenue generated from poker. Xiao has a special deal with Betcoin.  They pay him MORE than the top tier, which allows him to easily poach other affiliates signups and essentially lock up most serious poker players.  If a player signs up under someone else, they create a new account when they hear about Xiao usually.

Many poker players also enjoy gambling on casino games or sports and as a top affiliate,  Xiao receives at least 35% of his players sports losses and 50% of casino losses.  Maybe more (special deal, remember?)! He keeps all that.

Source: https://www.betcoin.ag/affiliates

legendary
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This is an issue with the CASINO PROVIDER and THEIR CASINO SLOTS.  Has NOTHING to do with the poker room.

So you think Betcoin is unethical with their casino but ethical with their poker?  That's a REALLY large leap in logic.  Especially for a site that's been quite unethical with their poker room in the past.

Also, the WTN doesn't 'trust' Betcoin.  It's a std skin deal.  When a player buys into a tournament, Betcoin pays that amount to the network (which comes from the player's account) and if a player on the skin wins, the network pays the skin for them to cover the player's new balance. 

What's up dark days.

Xiao has this shit all of over the place, this is thread #4 I think.  wtf

Here we go:

Xiao is a betcoin.ag affiliate.

Betcoin is a (scummy) site that has casino, sportsbook and poker.

He returns most of his commission that he gets from poker and keeps all the sports and casino revenue for himself.  

If you want to play bitcoin poker I suggest checking out this shill free/affiliate free thread


 



Based on what you're saying, so if the government has problems, that means all the programs and establishments of the government has problems?  Let's not use the road the government builds.  How about the libraries and community centers?

This is the poker room dude.  It's a separate software provider (a very reputable one with WPN), and yeah, one of the highest rakeback in all of online poker.  Please stick to posting in other threads.  You're pissing off a lot of players on this program.  You obviously know that, because you're the type of person that is willing to attack anyone that is semi-related to the entity that you have a problem with.
legendary
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This is an issue with the CASINO PROVIDER and THEIR CASINO SLOTS.  Has NOTHING to do with the poker room.

So you think Betcoin is unethical with their casino but ethical with their poker?  That's a REALLY large leap in logic.  Especially for a site that's been quite unethical with their poker room in the past.

Also, the WTN doesn't 'trust' Betcoin.  It's a std skin deal.  When a player buys into a tournament, Betcoin pays that amount to the network (which comes from the player's account) and if a player on the skin wins, the network pays the skin for them to cover the player's new balance. 

What's up dark days.

Xiao has this shit all of over the place, this is thread #4 I think.  wtf

Here we go:

Xiao is a betcoin.ag affiliate.

Betcoin is a (scummy) site that has casino, sportsbook and poker.

He returns most of his commission that he gets from poker and keeps all the sports and casino revenue for himself.  

If you want to play bitcoin poker I suggest checking out this shill free/affiliate free thread


 
legendary
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This is an issue with the CASINO PROVIDER and THEIR CASINO SLOTS.  Has NOTHING to do with the poker room.

So you think Betcoin is unethical with their casino but ethical with their poker?  That's a REALLY large leap in logic.  Especially for a site that's been quite unethical with their poker room in the past.

Also, the WTN doesn't 'trust' Betcoin.  It's a std skin deal.  When a player buys into a tournament, Betcoin pays that amount to the network (which comes from the player's account) and if a player on the skin wins, the network pays the skin for them to cover the player's new balance. 
legendary
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Hey Xiao, is this 40% rakeback offer still available?

Also, if I am a member of ACR, am I still eligible for this bonus as I noticed they're linked?

Thanks!

Yes you're definitely eligible.  Take care!
legendary
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newbie
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Hey Xiao, is this 40% rakeback offer still available?

Also, if I am a member of ACR, am I still eligible for this bonus as I noticed they're linked?

Thanks!
sr. member
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Before anyone decides to run off spamming this guys affiliate link all over the internet read what kinda of site it is first:

Twitchyseal just convinced a staff member of this forum it was unethical to be in Betcoin sig spamcaign: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-do-not-endorse-any-website-in-my-signature-yes-you-do-1544602

Read the trust feedback for Betcoin.ag: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/betcoinag-202115

Lutpins advice:
You shouldn't be advertising betcoin.ag given their current situation and how they handle problems/themselves.
That being said, I would advise everyone else being enrolled in that campaign to do the same, drop it.

Read how they treat players privately:
https://www.casinolistings.com/news/2016/07/betcoin-ag-betsoft-force-shafted-jackpot-winner-into-agreement

Read how they treat players in public chat:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15543609

Casinomeister warns everyone they should not play at Betcoin.ag
http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74146
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WARNING: Based on recent evidence players are advised to proceed with caution when playing Betsoft games offering jackpots. It would be wise to play at reputable Betsoft casinos only since it appears the individual casinos may have control over the frequency of jackpots.

WARNING: avoid Betcoin.ag since they are using phantom and/or imaginary Terms to withhold jackpot payouts.

They are blacklisted at casinolistings:
https://www.casinolistings.com/casinos/rogue-warnings-blacklist

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Rogue Casinos: the worst of the worst

Betcoin.ag
Betcoin.ag is one of a new breed of casino that operate solely using crypto-currencies such as Bitcoin. In mid 2016 we were approached by Jason, a player that claimed that he had been stiffed of a million mBTC progressive jackpot payout on a Betsoft slot, The Glam Life. Jason won the jackpot with five yacht symbols across the middle payline. Or so he thought. Instead he was paid a 1000 coin win and told, after several changes of story, that he didn't qualify for the jackpot because the winning spin occurred during the game's free spins bonus round. This was not documented in the paytable at the time, and after the controversy Betsoft later updated the game's paytable with a poorly worded statement that attempts to state this exception. The bottom line is, he was ripped off from a once in a lifetime win.

While the issue was no doubt caused by Betsoft, either through incompetence or malice, Betcoin.ag did itself no favours in its handling of the matter. While other casinos were dropping Betsoft games altogether after our investigation into their jackpots revealed several irregularities, Betcoin continues to offer Betsoft's crooked games. They instead told the player that they couldn't do anything, its all up to Betsoft and they are just a poor innocent intermediary caught in the middle. Eventually Jason was paid off with an amount that no-one will divulge and forced to make public statements proclaiming his love for Betcoin and Betsoft. In other words, they paid him to shut up and stop complaining about his rightful win. Betcoin.ag is not licensed or regulated by any recognised authority and they have demonstrated that they are a rogue casino willing to run crooked games. Avoid.

They also steal, lie and cheat and also allow their members to lie, steal and cheat.  More about that here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13507632
legendary
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Be sure to check out the signature campaign for this service:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcoinrakebackcom-signature-campaign-has-ended-043post-1531512

Paying nearly $0.50 per post for Hero+ members!

Nice campaign if you high rank do you think maybe you will ever offer members and up the opportunity to wear your avator for you for a small sum ?
I like your avatar I think it is neat and easy to see and distinguish the brand with. Good luck with this.
There will be another freeroll coming up.  Stay tuned.

Please maybe start a new thread for it ?
Thank you so much <3  Kiss

Members and full members will be accepted from time to time.  However right now, it has reached the limit.  

Unfortunately there can only be one site per website.  Starting a brand new thread for a freeroll would be over doing it.  Embarrassed
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Be sure to check out the signature campaign for this service:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcoinrakebackcom-signature-campaign-has-ended-043post-1531512

Paying nearly $0.50 per post for Hero+ members!

Nice campaign if you high rank do you think maybe you will ever offer members and up the opportunity to wear your avator for you for a small sum ?
I like your avatar I think it is neat and easy to see and distinguish the brand with. Good luck with this.
There will be another freeroll coming up.  Stay tuned.

Please maybe start a new thread for it ?
Thank you so much <3  Kiss
sr. member
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Definitely more traffic lately but still kinda weak compared to most poker rooms. Even smaller networks have 10 or more tables at all times.

Edit-I see you are online, please handle a cashout request! thanks!
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