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Topic: Betcrypto.cr |No KYC Casino & Sportsbook| 100% welcome bonus + 100% reload bonus - page 2. (Read 1745 times)

newbie
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i found a new website = https://hunnyplay.io, it has nitropolis 4 but no nitropolis 2 and 3, it has tombstone rip and blood and shadow with a rtp 96 any new update on the games i requested but the withdrawal on the new website is 7 days and they have kyc policy

I will check back with my team about the new games also FYI we are going to add 5% cashback to the site what do you think ?

The cashback would be available for regular players
newbie
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i found a new website = https://hunnyplay.io, it has nitropolis 4 but no nitropolis 2 and 3, it has tombstone rip and blood and shadow with a rtp 96 any new update on the games i requested but the withdrawal on the new website is 7 days and they have kyc policy
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ok thanks, btw the website has a code 0-51 = deposit error

EDIT:  The error was caused by the user trying to deposit less than $10, our minimum deposit amount is $10

Hi thanks also could you send me a screenshot of that error to [email protected] because it works for us Thanks Smiley



newbie
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ok thanks, btw the website has a code 0-51 = deposit error
copper member
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any new updates on nitropolis 2 3 and 4 or blood and shadow

Hi we sent an email to Nolimit City and Elk to enable us those titles still not ready idk why

i will send a follow up email to see when they will enable it
newbie
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any new updates on nitropolis 2 3 and 4 or blood and shadow
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There is always a positive and negative side to the features of gambling sites. I have seen peeps fighting over why casinos need my KYC, "I want my money without KYC verification", and much more. It is intriguing that whenever there is a non-KYC-based casino the opposite cases will be argued, just like the account authentication that we are discussing here.
Account authentication doesn't consider part of KYC. Or maybe it does? I don't know. But, NON-KYC casinos have limited way to catch multiple accounts. They can check IP and device models only. In the words of technology, it's not hard to use a different IP every time you visit a website. So, asking for Email Verification or Mobile number verification could help them. It's not like you are giving them your data like a passport copy or utility copy.

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I think non-KYC casinos can only rely on the IP addresses or maybe do mobile verification. Systems are in a place where virtual mobile numbers can be identified. So if any user is using such services could easily get flagged anyways. This might be a poor setting but it would be something more than nothing.
Precisly that's what I was talking about. To be honest, I did not know that it's possible to detect the virtual mobile number. That's interesting information. I never tried such services so I am unaware of those things.

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Apart from that some casinos are using level-based KYC. This starts with basic KYC, a single document, then goes to the above level with multiple verifications. This is anyway based on how much money is getting gambled. Not sure it would work or not.
Nobody want to run their business in lose. You don't want some cheaters take your money and run away. So, I don't blame casinos asking for a KYC when it comes to bonus things. If you are taking bonus and he platform suspect you for wrong doing, I won't blame them. Because they are here to do business and not charity. But, when there is no bonus thing that can be abused and still casinos ask for a KYC, I don't support it.
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Betcrypto may be right in that the player used two accounts but this no KYC policy isn't going to last long with Betcrypto. There will be many problems along the way and KYC is going to be the only way to truly tell. If Betcrypto doesn't take just the bonus money it's going to get ugly.

We are going to be KYC free for ever

And about just taking the bonus money is not the right punishment, because if we do that, he is going to try again and again because he knows if we catch him he is getting his money back.

It wouldn't be fair to us to take just the bonus money. He tried to scam us, and if he had succeeded, he wouldn't have refunded anything to us.

I knew the no KYC wouldn't last very long.

I think his idea is fair and still in-line with there tag line. They still have no KYC on regular players and just introduced it voluntarily if a user wants to pursue a certain bonus.

I think this is different to the typical implementation of KYC on other casino because you can be required to do KYC against your will once you violate casino terms while on this casino, You can assure that you will not experience that kind of surprised KYC assuming they will be true to there words in the end.
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Betcrypto may be right in that the player used two accounts but this no KYC policy isn't going to last long with Betcrypto. There will be many problems along the way and KYC is going to be the only way to truly tell. If Betcrypto doesn't take just the bonus money it's going to get ugly.

We are going to be KYC free for ever

And about just taking the bonus money is not the right punishment, because if we do that, he is going to try again and again because he knows if we catch him he is getting his money back.

It wouldn't be fair to us to take just the bonus money. He tried to scam us, and if he had succeeded, he wouldn't have refunded anything to us.

I knew the no KYC wouldn't last very long.

Hey we have not implemented anything we still KYC free for ever we will never force anyone to take  KYC for deposit or withdraw
Well, you first said never KYC. Now you are thinking of changing the rules for KYC to get bonus. You guys don't know what you are getting into. People are going to send fake KYC. It's not going to be good. It's either you are doing KYC or you aren't doing KYC.

you are twisting my words let me be clear to you:

WE WILL NEVER ASK FOR KYC


We were just thinking if someone want to get a 300% welcome bonus or something like that, they can get it if they KYC , it will be optional WE HAVE NOT IMPLEMENTED ANYTHING !!!!!
newbie
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Betcrypto may be right in that the player used two accounts but this no KYC policy isn't going to last long with Betcrypto. There will be many problems along the way and KYC is going to be the only way to truly tell. If Betcrypto doesn't take just the bonus money it's going to get ugly.

We are going to be KYC free for ever

And about just taking the bonus money is not the right punishment, because if we do that, he is going to try again and again because he knows if we catch him he is getting his money back.

It wouldn't be fair to us to take just the bonus money. He tried to scam us, and if he had succeeded, he wouldn't have refunded anything to us.

I knew the no KYC wouldn't last very long.

Hey we have not implemented anything we still KYC free for ever we will never force anyone to take  KYC for deposit or withdraw
Well, you first said never KYC. Now you are thinking of changing the rules for KYC to get bonus. You guys don't know what you are getting into. People are going to send fake KYC. It's not going to be good. It's either you are doing KYC or you aren't doing KYC.
copper member
Activity: 239
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Betcrypto may be right in that the player used two accounts but this no KYC policy isn't going to last long with Betcrypto. There will be many problems along the way and KYC is going to be the only way to truly tell. If Betcrypto doesn't take just the bonus money it's going to get ugly.

We are going to be KYC free for ever

And about just taking the bonus money is not the right punishment, because if we do that, he is going to try again and again because he knows if we catch him he is getting his money back.

It wouldn't be fair to us to take just the bonus money. He tried to scam us, and if he had succeeded, he wouldn't have refunded anything to us.

I knew the no KYC wouldn't last very long.

Hey we have not implemented anything we still KYC free for ever we will never force anyone to take  KYC for deposit or withdraw
newbie
Activity: 85
Merit: 0
Betcrypto may be right in that the player used two accounts but this no KYC policy isn't going to last long with Betcrypto. There will be many problems along the way and KYC is going to be the only way to truly tell. If Betcrypto doesn't take just the bonus money it's going to get ugly.

We are going to be KYC free for ever

And about just taking the bonus money is not the right punishment, because if we do that, he is going to try again and again because he knows if we catch him he is getting his money back.

It wouldn't be fair to us to take just the bonus money. He tried to scam us, and if he had succeeded, he wouldn't have refunded anything to us.

I knew the no KYC wouldn't last very long.
copper member
Activity: 239
Merit: 8
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There is always a positive and negative side to the features of gambling sites. I have seen peeps fighting over why casinos need my KYC, "I want my money without KYC verification", and much more. It is intriguing that whenever there is a non-KYC-based casino the opposite cases will be argued, just like the account authentication that we are discussing here.

I think non-KYC casinos can only rely on the IP addresses or maybe do mobile verification. Systems are in a place where virtual mobile numbers can be identified. So if any user is using such services could easily get flagged anyways. This might be a poor setting but it would be something more than nothing.

Apart from that some casinos are using level-based KYC. This starts with basic KYC, a single document, then goes to the above level with multiple verifications. This is anyway based on how much money is getting gambled. Not sure it would work or not.
KYC or not to KYC, that's the million-dollar question, folks!

These online gambling joints? They're caught between a rock and a very hard place. They're like a card dealer with one hand. Too inquisitive? They're nosy. Too relaxed? Sketchy as a con artist.

Non-KYC casinos that use IP tracking or mobile checks? Interesting, sure, but is it as sturdy as a house of cards?

Perhaps a tiered KYC system could be the ticket. Imagine it like a poker game. You don't push all your chips in the first round, right? You up the ante gradually. Users could provide more verification as their transactions pile up. A gamble? Sure, but that's the name of the game in casinos, right?

Yes that's the thing well we the founders are against KYC maybe we could add KYC just to access big bonuses offers but idk we are going to avoid implementing KYC
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
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There is always a positive and negative side to the features of gambling sites. I have seen peeps fighting over why casinos need my KYC, "I want my money without KYC verification", and much more. It is intriguing that whenever there is a non-KYC-based casino the opposite cases will be argued, just like the account authentication that we are discussing here.

I think non-KYC casinos can only rely on the IP addresses or maybe do mobile verification. Systems are in a place where virtual mobile numbers can be identified. So if any user is using such services could easily get flagged anyways. This might be a poor setting but it would be something more than nothing.

Apart from that some casinos are using level-based KYC. This starts with basic KYC, a single document, then goes to the above level with multiple verifications. This is anyway based on how much money is getting gambled. Not sure it would work or not.
KYC or not to KYC, that's the million-dollar question, folks!

These online gambling joints? They're caught between a rock and a very hard place. They're like a card dealer with one hand. Too inquisitive? They're nosy. Too relaxed? Sketchy as a con artist.

Non-KYC casinos that use IP tracking or mobile checks? Interesting, sure, but is it as sturdy as a house of cards?

Perhaps a tiered KYC system could be the ticket. Imagine it like a poker game. You don't push all your chips in the first round, right? You up the ante gradually. Users could provide more verification as their transactions pile up. A gamble? Sure, but that's the name of the game in casinos, right?
hero member
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There is always a positive and negative side to the features of gambling sites. I have seen peeps fighting over why casinos need my KYC, "I want my money without KYC verification", and much more. It is intriguing that whenever there is a non-KYC-based casino the opposite cases will be argued, just like the account authentication that we are discussing here.

Welcome to gambling board of the forum which every aspect are being discussed. Cheesy Kidding aside, This KYC will not gonna be implemented in the first place if there’s no bad actor such as money launderer that mixing on the casino. This is same now on this casino problem which another bad actor trying to exploit their bonus due to the unavailability of the KYC which is the main defense for fraud.


we are moving to a more loyalty bonus base system i think this way can't be abuse because the account need to build trust in the casino , nothing yet concreate

I think this a great idea and perhaps will work on your setup. A bonus based on players contribution to the casino is appropriate and less exploitable on your case.
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Well, if we add the verification code, they can still create multiple accounts and verify those accounts and if they use fake emails they will lose the possibility of withdraw because we send a withdraw verification code if they don't enter the code the withdraw request won be send to us

Honestly, I don’t see the point of verification code for fighting multiple account. It’s very easy to create multiple email address with just one mobile number. An abuser will find a way to deal with restrictions if the casino doesn’t have KYC which is the only way to assign ownership to an account 1:1.

This is the downside of having no KYC policy. It’s good in general for players but I doubt that you can keep up offering a bonus without someone abusing it because there’s a lot of casino being subject by bonus abused even if they have strict KYC policy and wagering requirements.

Can you give as an update on what’s your future plan on dealing with abuser and at the same time offering bonus?

Yes that's the down side of no KYC well we are moving to a more loyalty bonus base system i think this way can't be abuse because the account need to build trust in the casino , nothing yet concreate

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Well, if we add the verification code, they can still create multiple accounts and verify those accounts and if they use fake emails they will lose the possibility of withdraw because we send a withdraw verification code if they don't enter the code the withdraw request won be send to us

Honestly, I don’t see the point of verification code for fighting multiple account. It’s very easy to create multiple email address with just one mobile number. An abuser will find a way to deal with restrictions if the casino doesn’t have KYC which is the only way to assign ownership to an account 1:1.

This is the downside of having no KYC policy. It’s good in general for players but I doubt that you can keep up offering a bonus without someone abusing it because there’s a lot of casino being subject by bonus abused even if they have strict KYC policy and wagering requirements.

Can you give as an update on what’s your future plan on dealing with abuser and at the same time offering bonus?

There is always a positive and negative side to the features of gambling sites. I have seen peeps fighting over why casinos need my KYC, "I want my money without KYC verification", and much more. It is intriguing that whenever there is a non-KYC-based casino the opposite cases will be argued, just like the account authentication that we are discussing here.

I think non-KYC casinos can only rely on the IP addresses or maybe do mobile verification. Systems are in a place where virtual mobile numbers can be identified. So if any user is using such services could easily get flagged anyways. This might be a poor setting but it would be something more than nothing.

Apart from that some casinos are using level-based KYC. This starts with basic KYC, a single document, then goes to the above level with multiple verifications. This is anyway based on how much money is getting gambled. Not sure it would work or not.
hero member
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Well, if we add the verification code, they can still create multiple accounts and verify those accounts and if they use fake emails they will lose the possibility of withdraw because we send a withdraw verification code if they don't enter the code the withdraw request won be send to us

Honestly, I don’t see the point of verification code for fighting multiple account. It’s very easy to create multiple email address with just one mobile number. An abuser will find a way to deal with restrictions if the casino doesn’t have KYC which is the only way to assign ownership to an account 1:1.

This is the downside of having no KYC policy. It’s good in general for players but I doubt that you can keep up offering a bonus without someone abusing it because there’s a lot of casino being subject by bonus abused even if they have strict KYC policy and wagering requirements.

Can you give as an update on what’s your future plan on dealing with abuser and at the same time offering bonus?
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Hi sorry for breaking that rule it will not happen again
It's okay. You can edit your previous post and merge them. Or moderators have to do the job for you.

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The live chat support is only enable on the home page when you log in you can use the support option on the right top corner
Is live support the Need Help button? I thought it was for the ticketing system or the send mail system when the live support agent is not available. It should be good if you change the wording to Live Support.

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About minimum deposit is $10 and for withdraw your deposit you need to wager 1X the deposit amount before requesting a withdraw
I mean the wager requirement for the bonus I will receive from my deposit. Let's say I deposited $10 and got another $10 as a bonus. How much do I have to wager? is it still 1x?  

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We don't do account verification code
Interesting. If you keep it like this. It will be easy for someone to create multiple accounts using dummy emails. Since you guys are not asking for a KYC, You won't have a way to verify if someone creates multiple accounts. I will suggest starting verifying emails at least to avoid abuse.

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Let me know if you have more questions Smiley
I will get back to you if I face any issues. For now, Thank you very much!



No sorry, the Need Help Button is the ticketing system you can only find the live support on the homepage i think we can add the live support inside the casino

FYI the bonuses are pause until further notice you can check the status and the rules here  https://www.betcrypto.cr/bonuses/

Well, if we add the verification code, they can still create multiple accounts and verify those accounts and if they use fake emails they will lose the possibility of withdraw because we send a withdraw verification code if they don't enter the code the withdraw request won be send to us
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