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Topic: Betcrypto.cr |No KYC Casino & Sportsbook| 100% welcome bonus + 100% reload bonus - page 6. (Read 1638 times)

copper member
Activity: 224
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We don't have withdrawal fees Smiley
You are paying everything including transaction fees for Bitcoin withdrawals?
I know other big casinos like Sportsbet and few others are doing that, but it is really rear to see that for new gambling websites.
About issue with bonus abuses maybe you can give special bitcointalk 200% discount only to reputable forum members, this will reduce chance of abuse and they can test your website better.



Yes we pay for the transactions fees and about the bonuses yes maybe we can do that
legendary
Activity: 2058
Merit: 1264
Logo Designer ⛨ BSFL Division1
We don't have withdrawal fees Smiley
You are paying everything including transaction fees for Bitcoin withdrawals?
I know other big casinos like Sportsbet and few others are doing that, but it is really rear to see that for new gambling websites.
About issue with bonus abuses maybe you can give special bitcointalk 200% discount only to reputable forum members, this will reduce chance of abuse and they can test your website better.

copper member
Activity: 224
Merit: 8
can't see the sportsbook section without signing up do you offer esports especially csgo?

Hi not yet we are working on enabling e-sports maybe in a couple of weeks is going to be ready
legendary
Activity: 2044
Merit: 1981
Marketing Campaign Manager |Telegram ID- @LT_Mouse
Here is my prediction, if he managed to withdraw again from the 2nd account, for sure he will not return it to the casino and hey may try it again by creating 3rd account.
Check his 1st and 2nd accounts activity. He gambled in the first account and when withdrew from the first account, he forgot about that account and started to be active from the second account.

We hope there is not a next time but, next time we are going to share evidence only with a trusted forum member so we don't blow up how we can detect multiple accounts 
Now that there is no 200% bonus, would they come back lol? Well, there are many other reason for which people create alt account. One of them is by passing the limit of bet. Since you have special treatment for high roller, I think the chance of multi account is too low now.

do you offer esports especially csgo?
Esports are coming soon as I can see in the OP here.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
can't see the sportsbook section without signing up do you offer esports especially csgo?
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1145
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It would be fair to give me back at least my 600$ that i deposited. But they decided to stole it.
I just saw the scan accusation you made for betcrypto.cr and I'm convinced with the proofs that betcrypto showed to the public. You are bust in short. One reason why you lost money is you try to exploit a welcome bonus by doing a obvious move. Of course casino can detect it since they have the control and can view most of your information. They don't collect KYC and it's the reason I think they are more strict on multi accounting since the first line of defense on multi accounting is non existent. Proofs are solid and I'm sure I'm not the only one who is convinced that you are multi accounting. There's no point in fighting that this casino scammed you. I was shocked how aggressive that this casino solved their accusation and I think it's the correct way of dealing with exploiters.

He is asking now for only his seed money back because he knows he is at fault. However, he should have known this that he is doing wrong and if got caught, he will lose all of his money from both of his account.

Think of it in another way. Let's suppose he was able to exploit the bonus with two account and withdrawn the money. Later would he be willing to return the money back to the casino which he got from the 2nd account ? No. So why Casino should return his money when he is found guilty.
That gambler has the courage to do a scam accusation against the casino and now that the gambler has proven guilty of cheating the casino, He is now just asking for the money he deposited, It's crazy how they tried to exploit the casino and now asking for their money to be returned. He is guilty and there's no way that the  casino will return the money after stirring up the casino reputation by the moves he did. and obviously, He broke a rule about multi accounting and I don't think that he will get away with that. It's a solid lose for that gambler.
copper member
Activity: 224
Merit: 8
Think of it in another way. Let's suppose he was able to exploit the bonus with two account and withdrawn the money. Later would he be willing to return the money back to the casino which he got from the 2nd account ? No. So why Casino should return his money when he is found guilty.

Here is my prediction, if he managed to withdraw again from the 2nd account, for sure he will not return it to the casino and hey may try it again by creating 3rd account. Cudy89 is obviously greedy gambler because maybe he found a way to take an advantage from the bonus provided by betcrypto and he wants to do it again and again till he collect a lot of money. Talking about fair or not to confiscate the winning and deposit on the 2nd, there will be always 2 different perspective but in this case I support what is done by betcrypto.

Thanks Smiley well Cudy89 is not going to be able to withdraw from the second account we blacklisted it

Well, what if Cudy89 makes a new account , the third one and try to manipulate with bonus money ?
Also this is one case where this person got caught, there might be other who are creating multiple accounts and cheating the system ?

Since without KYC how do you have control over the scammers that they don't create multiple account. Do you monitor IP address of the account or what measure do you take ?

Sadly we pause our welcome bonus system we are working on making it from 200% to 100% maybe this will discourage scammers

we do monitor IP address but it's hard because they can use VPNs we have our ways to detect multiple accounts we are not going to say how publicly, we did it with this user because we are new on the forum and we don't want to ruin our reputation

We hope there is not a next time but, next time we are going to share evidence only with a trusted forum member so we don't blow up how we can detect multiple accounts 
hero member
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Think of it in another way. Let's suppose he was able to exploit the bonus with two account and withdrawn the money. Later would he be willing to return the money back to the casino which he got from the 2nd account ? No. So why Casino should return his money when he is found guilty.

Here is my prediction, if he managed to withdraw again from the 2nd account, for sure he will not return it to the casino and hey may try it again by creating 3rd account. Cudy89 is obviously greedy gambler because maybe he found a way to take an advantage from the bonus provided by betcrypto and he wants to do it again and again till he collect a lot of money. Talking about fair or not to confiscate the winning and deposit on the 2nd, there will be always 2 different perspective but in this case I support what is done by betcrypto.

Thanks Smiley well Cudy89 is not going to be able to withdraw from the second account we blacklisted it

Well, what if Cudy89 makes a new account , the third one and try to manipulate with bonus money ?
Also this is one case where this person got caught, there might be other who are creating multiple accounts and cheating the system ?

Since without KYC how do you have control over the scammers that they don't create multiple account. Do you monitor IP address of the account or what measure do you take ?
legendary
Activity: 2296
Merit: 1038
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
It would be fair to give me back at least my 600$ that i deposited. But they decided to stole it.

You cheated and should be punished. A slap on the wrist isn't enough. That's just an invitation to try it again with a diferente method
Each casino has different penalties for cheating users and I would not buy into cheaters, but there are other casinos that get cheating users and then they take away the bonus money and return the user's deposit, but if you want to punish in your own way don't there is a problem with taking the deposit money, that is your rule that must be obeyed, but sometimes it is also true that if the user gets the money he will try one more time to cheat the bonus.

I also had no time to think why people are willing to commit fraudulent acts just to look for bonuses whereas if they just want to play, just play, why do they have to cheat and take advantage of bonuses or register for more than one account. sounds weird
copper member
Activity: 224
Merit: 8
Think of it in another way. Let's suppose he was able to exploit the bonus with two account and withdrawn the money. Later would he be willing to return the money back to the casino which he got from the 2nd account ? No. So why Casino should return his money when he is found guilty.

Here is my prediction, if he managed to withdraw again from the 2nd account, for sure he will not return it to the casino and hey may try it again by creating 3rd account. Cudy89 is obviously greedy gambler because maybe he found a way to take an advantage from the bonus provided by betcrypto and he wants to do it again and again till he collect a lot of money. Talking about fair or not to confiscate the winning and deposit on the 2nd, there will be always 2 different perspective but in this case I support what is done by betcrypto.

Thanks Smiley well Cudy89 is not going to be able to withdraw from the second account we blacklisted it
legendary
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1312
Think of it in another way. Let's suppose he was able to exploit the bonus with two account and withdrawn the money. Later would he be willing to return the money back to the casino which he got from the 2nd account ? No. So why Casino should return his money when he is found guilty.

Here is my prediction, if he managed to withdraw again from the 2nd account, for sure he will not return it to the casino and hey may try it again by creating 3rd account. Cudy89 is obviously greedy gambler because maybe he found a way to take an advantage from the bonus provided by betcrypto and he wants to do it again and again till he collect a lot of money. Talking about fair or not to confiscate the winning and deposit on the 2nd, there will be always 2 different perspective but in this case I support what is done by betcrypto.
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 1075
It would be fair to give me back at least my 600$ that i deposited. But they decided to stole it.
still trying to paint yourself as a victim, I doubt you'll get sympathy. In the end, it's their decision whether to confiscate your deposit or not because you broke their rules, abused and profited from their welcome bonus, lied and tried to ruin their reputation.
hero member
Activity: 2632
Merit: 613
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
It would be fair to give me back at least my 600$ that i deposited. But they decided to stole it.
I just saw the scan accusation you made for betcrypto.cr and I'm convinced with the proofs that betcrypto showed to the public. You are bust in short. One reason why you lost money is you try to exploit a welcome bonus by doing a obvious move. Of course casino can detect it since they have the control and can view most of your information. They don't collect KYC and it's the reason I think they are more strict on multi accounting since the first line of defense on multi accounting is non existent. Proofs are solid and I'm sure I'm not the only one who is convinced that you are multi accounting. There's no point in fighting that this casino scammed you. I was shocked how aggressive that this casino solved their accusation and I think it's the correct way of dealing with exploiters.

He is asking now for only his seed money back because he knows he is at fault. However, he should have known this that he is doing wrong and if got caught, he will lose all of his money from both of his account.

Think of it in another way. Let's suppose he was able to exploit the bonus with two account and withdrawn the money. Later would he be willing to return the money back to the casino which he got from the 2nd account ? No. So why Casino should return his money when he is found guilty.
copper member
Activity: 224
Merit: 8
Betcrypto may be right in that the player used two accounts but this no KYC policy isn't going to last long with Betcrypto. There will be many problems along the way and KYC is going to be the only way to truly tell. If Betcrypto doesn't take just the bonus money it's going to get ugly.

We are going to be KYC free for ever

And about just taking the bonus money is not the right punishment, because if we do that, he is going to try again and again because he knows if we catch him he is getting his money back.

It wouldn't be fair to us to take just the bonus money. He tried to scam us, and if he had succeeded, he wouldn't have refunded anything to us.
newbie
Activity: 85
Merit: 0
Betcrypto may be right in that the player used two accounts but this no KYC policy isn't going to last long with Betcrypto. There will be many problems along the way and KYC is going to be the only way to truly tell. If Betcrypto doesn't take just the bonus money it's going to get ugly.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1145
FOCUS
It would be fair to give me back at least my 600$ that i deposited. But they decided to stole it.
I just saw the scan accusation you made for betcrypto.cr and I'm convinced with the proofs that betcrypto showed to the public. You are bust in short. One reason why you lost money is you try to exploit a welcome bonus by doing a obvious move. Of course casino can detect it since they have the control and can view most of your information. They don't collect KYC and it's the reason I think they are more strict on multi accounting since the first line of defense on multi accounting is non existent. Proofs are solid and I'm sure I'm not the only one who is convinced that you are multi accounting. There's no point in fighting that this casino scammed you. I was shocked how aggressive that this casino solved their accusation and I think it's the correct way of dealing with exploiters.
copper member
Activity: 224
Merit: 8
It would be fair to give me back at least my 600$ that i deposited. But they decided to stole it.

You cheated and should be punished. A slap on the wrist isn't enough. That's just an invitation to try it again with a diferente method
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
It would be fair to give me back at least my 600$ that i deposited. But they decided to stole it.
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 1075
Take the bonus amount and pay him the rest.this is the correct procedure.
No, the correct procedure here is confiscating the winnings and giving back only the deposit(that is what I think). Cudy89 has blatantly exploited the casino's welcome bonus. he created a scam accusation and created a story where he is the victim but has been proven to be a liar and a bonus abuser.
copper member
Activity: 224
Merit: 8
Take the bonus amount and pay him the rest.this is the correct procedure.

He won with a first account $1581 we paid it and with the second he also won

Our site is KYC free if we let this go and after we reveal all the proofs he will try again and again.

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