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Quote from: robelneo on December 22, 2023, 06:11:02 PM

And here is the current result of the poll, hmmm it seems nobody's giving Smith a chance to beat Beterbiev, after Beterbiev and Bivol dispose of their respective opponents it is time for them to settle who among the two is the best Russian boxer.

Beterbiev by knockout   - 22 (100%)
Beterbiev by decision   - 0 (0%)
Smith by knock out   - 0 (0%)
Smith by decision   - 0 (0%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)

That is a very lopsided poll. Beterbiev has a perfect knockout record so it makes sense that everyone believes he will win this fight by stoppage. There are many doubts about Callum Smith. His win against John Ryder was questionable and against Canelo he didn't let his hands go and got dominated. The only question about Beterbiev is whether he is starting to decline. At 38, his reflexes might not be the same. Smith will have to show some initiative instead of just absorb punches. He has a better chance than most people anticipate but it depends on whether he can impose his style without getting intimidated by Beterbiev's power.

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I know, he is like a predator no expression whatsoever when he goes to fight anyone. He might have a slow start though, but once he get that engine inside of him, he is scary because he will be just in you face fighter that maybe some of his opponents are already intimated seeing him in that kind of mode.

Bivol already won his fight, so it's up to Beterbiev against Smith. But if Beterbiev is still very hungry and I believed he is, this fight against Smith is not going to last the full 12 rounds and Beterbiev will knockout Smith.

It has been a long time and these should have been fought a long time ago no rule in world boxing prohibits two fighters from the same country not to fight, they should not impose that on themselves, Beterbiev is aging but still dangerous no boxer has ever come close to hurting him but his record and legacy is questionable as long as both he and Bivol cannot meet each other in the ring,
I hope there will be no Wilder-like scenario in this fight against Smith, we want both fighters to meet in the ring with unblemished records so they will be motivated to go all out when they meet.

I do agree that they should have fought before, but it make sense for it that this two should face because I will say that Bivol is not that well known until he beat Canelo. But then again, we all know that boxing politics really goes in the way for making this big fights.

But the Saudis shows that in can be done, because they have big money to begin with and promoters are willing to sit down now to talk and make such fight s proven by the Day of Reckoning a week back wherein the card are stack up, including Bivol.

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I know, he is like a predator no expression whatsoever when he goes to fight anyone. He might have a slow start though, but once he get that engine inside of him, he is scary because he will be just in you face fighter that maybe some of his opponents are already intimated seeing him in that kind of mode.

Bivol already won his fight, so it's up to Beterbiev against Smith. But if Beterbiev is still very hungry and I believed he is, this fight against Smith is not going to last the full 12 rounds and Beterbiev will knockout Smith.

It has been a long time and these should have been fought a long time ago no rule in world boxing prohibits two fighters from the same country not to fight, they should not impose that on themselves, Beterbiev is aging but still dangerous no boxer has ever come close to hurting him but his record and legacy is questionable as long as both he and Bivol cannot meet each other in the ring,
I hope there will be no Wilder-like scenario in this fight against Smith, we want both fighters to meet in the ring with unblemished records so they will be motivated to go all out when they meet.

I think it's not that they are in the same country, it's the usual boxing politics that could have delayed this fight. And then there is the issue of geo-politics that time and still up to this time, when Russia invaded Ukraine.

And there's news that they hold Bivol pay when he won against Canelo, but not sure if he has been paid already. Beterbiev and Arum claims that Arthur lives in Canada.

I do hope that everything is clear so that we can see this fight and also for unification as this is the current trend in boxing right now.

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Quote from: btc_angela on December 29, 2023, 05:23:58 AM

I know, he is like a predator no expression whatsoever when he goes to fight anyone. He might have a slow start though, but once he get that engine inside of him, he is scary because he will be just in you face fighter that maybe some of his opponents are already intimated seeing him in that kind of mode.

Bivol already won his fight, so it's up to Beterbiev against Smith. But if Beterbiev is still very hungry and I believed he is, this fight against Smith is not going to last the full 12 rounds and Beterbiev will knockout Smith.

It has been a long time and these should have been fought a long time ago no rule in world boxing prohibits two fighters from the same country not to fight, they should not impose that on themselves, Beterbiev is aging but still dangerous no boxer has ever come close to hurting him but his record and legacy is questionable as long as both he and Bivol cannot meet each other in the ring,
I hope there will be no Wilder-like scenario in this fight against Smith, we want both fighters to meet in the ring with unblemished records so they will be motivated to go all out when they meet.

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^^ Yes that is the odds usually if you are going to face Beterbiev as he hasn't lose and all of his opponent getting knockout. So we are not sure what kind of strategy Smith is going to do in their fight. He can't just go toe to toe as Beterbiev has the power.

But then again how can you beat this guy? He also has a solid chin, and then once he smell that you are about to go down, he will go after you put you in the corner and then throw bombs. I do agree that the fight that we are waiting is the unification with another great LHW in Bivol.

Beterbiev is a perfect predator, he can hurt but you cannot hurt, he can beat anybody but then again he is not getting any younger he is now 38 years old and age will have an impact on his future fights, while Bivol is only 33 years still on his prime, in this fight against Smith we'll see if age has finally caught up with Beterbiev or he still maintain his power just like before.
Beterbiev is the overwhelming favorite and so is Bivol in his coming fight, these two must fight they arenot getting younger, they have to settle this once and for all.

I know, he is like a predator no expression whatsoever when he goes to fight anyone. He might have a slow start though, but once he get that engine inside of him, he is scary because he will be just in you face fighter that maybe some of his opponents are already intimated seeing him in that kind of mode.

Bivol already won his fight, so it's up to Beterbiev against Smith. But if Beterbiev is still very hungry and I believed he is, this fight against Smith is not going to last the full 12 rounds and Beterbiev will knockout Smith.

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^^ Yes that is the odds usually if you are going to face Beterbiev as he hasn't lose and all of his opponent getting knockout. So we are not sure what kind of strategy Smith is going to do in their fight. He can't just go toe to toe as Beterbiev has the power.

But then again how can you beat this guy? He also has a solid chin, and then once he smell that you are about to go down, he will go after you put you in the corner and then throw bombs. I do agree that the fight that we are waiting is the unification with another great LHW in Bivol.

Beterbiev is a perfect predator, he can hurt but you cannot hurt, he can beat anybody but then again he is not getting any younger he is now 38 years old and age will have an impact on his future fights, while Bivol is only 33 years still on his prime, in this fight against Smith we'll see if age has finally caught up with Beterbiev or he still maintain his power just like before.
Beterbiev is the overwhelming favorite and so is Bivol in his coming fight, these two must fight they arenot getting younger, they have to settle this once and for all.

We will see if age will impact Bivol in this fight, I do agree at 38 years of age, we might see some wear and tear on him, signs like injury (which he does), is showing. But it looks like he is still very hungry and wanted to unify the belt against Bivol and that is his plan.

And I think the feeling is mutual for Bivol, after he wins tonight, for sure he will call out Bivol.

It's just a matter of negotiations, if Frank Warren and and Eddie Hearn can settle their differences and make a great card in Saudi tonight, then for sure, Top Rank and Vadim Kornilov, Bivol's manager can sit down and talk and make this blockbuster fight.

Warren and Hearn already bring us a great fight in the Middle East, so there's no question that they can make this fight. I think it's easy to negotiate with Kornilov as well, him and Eddie Hearn has work before. And so there's no like ego flying around for this fight, 2 Russians that want to settle everything so it will be good.

So let's wait for Beterbiev to win, again, we don't like derailing of fight. Just like what happen to Wilder against Parker. We will see first if Bivol still has it and can pull the trigger and hopefully he can so that next year, another unification is on the line, this time it will be in the Light Heavyweight.

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^^ It's all about the money, and obviously, Beterbiev is not getting any younger so he should be looking for the money fight with his fellow Russian Bivol. Bivol said that he already smells his victory in tonight's fight. And chances are very high and if likely to happen.

And so it's time for Beterbiev to win against Smith, he is the huge favorite. And after that, negotiations can start and maybe in the middle of next year, we will finally see this fight happening as boxing fans are eager to see who's going to be on top. It's like Crawford vs Spence unification type of hype, both undefeated and great boxers.

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Quote from: Saisher on December 23, 2023, 07:06:34 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on December 23, 2023, 05:04:16 AM

^^ Yes that is the odds usually if you are going to face Beterbiev as he hasn't lose and all of his opponent getting knockout. So we are not sure what kind of strategy Smith is going to do in their fight. He can't just go toe to toe as Beterbiev has the power.

But then again how can you beat this guy? He also has a solid chin, and then once he smell that you are about to go down, he will go after you put you in the corner and then throw bombs. I do agree that the fight that we are waiting is the unification with another great LHW in Bivol.

Beterbiev is a perfect predator, he can hurt but you cannot hurt, he can beat anybody but then again he is not getting any younger he is now 38 years old and age will have an impact on his future fights, while Bivol is only 33 years still on his prime, in this fight against Smith we'll see if age has finally caught up with Beterbiev or he still maintain his power just like before.
Beterbiev is the overwhelming favorite and so is Bivol in his coming fight, these two must fight they arenot getting younger, they have to settle this once and for all.

We will see if age will impact Bivol in this fight, I do agree at 38 years of age, we might see some wear and tear on him, signs like injury (which he does), is showing. But it looks like he is still very hungry and wanted to unify the belt against Bivol and that is his plan.

And I think the feeling is mutual for Bivol, after he wins tonight, for sure he will call out Bivol.

It's just a matter of negotiations, if Frank Warren and and Eddie Hearn can settle their differences and make a great card in Saudi tonight, then for sure, Top Rank and Vadim Kornilov, Bivol's manager can sit down and talk and make this blockbuster fight.

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Quote from: btc_angela on December 23, 2023, 05:04:16 AM

^^ Yes that is the odds usually if you are going to face Beterbiev as he hasn't lose and all of his opponent getting knockout. So we are not sure what kind of strategy Smith is going to do in their fight. He can't just go toe to toe as Beterbiev has the power.

But then again how can you beat this guy? He also has a solid chin, and then once he smell that you are about to go down, he will go after you put you in the corner and then throw bombs. I do agree that the fight that we are waiting is the unification with another great LHW in Bivol.

Beterbiev is a perfect predator, he can hurt but you cannot hurt, he can beat anybody but then again he is not getting any younger he is now 38 years old and age will have an impact on his future fights, while Bivol is only 33 years still on his prime, in this fight against Smith we'll see if age has finally caught up with Beterbiev or he still maintain his power just like before.
Beterbiev is the overwhelming favorite and so is Bivol in his coming fight, these two must fight they arenot getting younger, they have to settle this once and for all.

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^^ Yes that is the odds usually if you are going to face Beterbiev as he hasn't lose and all of his opponent getting knockout. So we are not sure what kind of strategy Smith is going to do in their fight. He can't just go toe to toe as Beterbiev has the power.

But then again how can you beat this guy? He also has a solid chin, and then once he smell that you are about to go down, he will go after you put you in the corner and then throw bombs. I do agree that the fight that we are waiting is the unification with another great LHW in Bivol.

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I just check the odds on my favorite sports bookies and I'm not surprised that Smith is close to 4:1 underdog by today's line. Beterbiev is really scary even at his age, he still possesses that knockout power and I don't know how Smith can stay away from that.

Maybe in the first couple of rounds he could avoid it, or maybe Beterbiev is a slow starter. But once he gets on his range and groove on the fight, he simply will steam roll any of his opponents and this could include Smith. And as we can see on those votes, majority of boxing fans thinks that Beterbiev will continue to win by knockout. Of course the fight that we want is him and fellow Russian Bivol next.

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And here is the current result of the poll, hmmm it seems nobody's giving Smith a chance to beat Beterbiev, after Beterbiev and Bivol dispose of their respective opponents it is time for them to settle who among the two is the best Russian boxer.

Beterbiev by knockout   - 22 (100%)
Beterbiev by decision   - 0 (0%)
Smith by knock out   - 0 (0%)
Smith by decision   - 0 (0%)
Draw   - 0 (0%)

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Thanks @robelneo for re-opening this thread, the fight is still a go, Jan. 13 at Quebec,

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WBC/WBO/IBF light heavyweight king Artur Beterbiev now has a date to defend his crown. After recent dental surgery forced Beterbiev to postpone his Aug. 19 title defense against former world champion Callum Smith, the two will now meet Saturday, Jan. 13 at Videotron Centre in Quebec City, Canada.

https://www.boxingscene.com/beterbiev-smith-championship-clash-rescheduled-jan-13-quebec-city--176776

And with Bivol fighting this weekend, and if he wins then he should wait for Beterbiev part to win this fight as well.

Mega fight maybe in the middle of the year, unification fight for LHW, between this two great fighter.

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Bad news! Champion is once again injured. This is really the disadvantage of an old athlete competing in the hurt business. He is currently the oldest world champion if I am not mistaken. Maybe Callum can pull a huge upset if he is able to catch Beterbiev first.

If Beterbiev beats Callum, he better strongly demands a Bivol fight next or he should move up in weight for a chance to become a 2-division world champion if he wants to enter the Hall of Fame. Too bad, the guy that beat, knocked down, hurt, and had a hotly contested trilogy in the amateurs against the legendary Oleksandr Usyk is not entering the Hall of Fame.

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I think it's more to that, I mean we all know that Arum will have to milk Beterbiev and he doesn't want Arthur to fight someone that will be a threat to him. I believed that Bivol has a chance, with his volume punching, it might take a tool on Beterbiev later on the fight.

So for me Arum is just hiding, and using the WBC as a reason not to fight Bivol. But so far, if they have clean the division already then there is no one to fight but Bivol in the end. So sooner or later maybe we will see it, perhaps in the next 2-3 years, when Beterbiev is on the declined. At least if he lost, Arum has made a lot of money already.

Arum is a master of his job; he knows what he is doing, which is why he is very successful in this business. His statements do not necessarily mean they are true, and as long as he continues to make money, he'll ensure that his lucrative boxer continues to produce for him. Risking against a good boxer is not in his vocabulary, unless he is very confident about Beterbiev, who could be the best in the world in any division he is capable of fighting.

Yeah, but at the back of my mind, I think Arum wanted this fight, or at least because of the potential money that he will have to make here. But if there are sanctions against Russian boxer, like in the case of Bivol then maybe for now he has no intentions about setting up the fight.

But if everything has settles down, maybe Beterbiev vs Bivol can happen in the future for unification. There is no risk for him, he is a business man and he wants to stay on top of this game. One thing though is that Bivol is still with his rival Match Room and Eddie Hearn and that could be a very important issue to settle because they sit down and talk and have their boxers fight each other.

Well, yes, Bob Arum wanted to make this fight and he's been already open for some negotiations from the opposite camp under one condition; he will organize it and not Eddie Hearn as they got more food to put on the table.

But knowing Bob Arum and how he works mysteriously, I believe that they are still finding the right time to talk with the WBC president so that this fight will finally materialize and besides, they know that their time is running because Artur Beterbiev is already approaching its sunset. They couldn't afford to say good bye to this opportunity while people are still asking for it.

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I think it's more to that, I mean we all know that Arum will have to milk Beterbiev and he doesn't want Arthur to fight someone that will be a threat to him. I believed that Bivol has a chance, with his volume punching, it might take a tool on Beterbiev later on the fight.

So for me Arum is just hiding, and using the WBC as a reason not to fight Bivol. But so far, if they have clean the division already then there is no one to fight but Bivol in the end. So sooner or later maybe we will see it, perhaps in the next 2-3 years, when Beterbiev is on the declined. At least if he lost, Arum has made a lot of money already.

Arum is a master of his job; he knows what he is doing, which is why he is very successful in this business. His statements do not necessarily mean they are true, and as long as he continues to make money, he'll ensure that his lucrative boxer continues to produce for him. Risking against a good boxer is not in his vocabulary, unless he is very confident about Beterbiev, who could be the best in the world in any division he is capable of fighting.

Yeah, but at the back of my mind, I think Arum wanted this fight, or at least because of the potential money that he will have to make here. But if there are sanctions against Russian boxer, like in the case of Bivol then maybe for now he has no intentions about setting up the fight.

But if everything has settles down, maybe Beterbiev vs Bivol can happen in the future for unification. There is no risk for him, he is a business man and he wants to stay on top of this game. One thing though is that Bivol is still with his rival Match Room and Eddie Hearn and that could be a very important issue to settle because they sit down and talk and have their boxers fight each other.

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Quote from: TravelMug on July 23, 2023, 05:35:43 AM

I think it's more to that, I mean we all know that Arum will have to milk Beterbiev and he doesn't want Arthur to fight someone that will be a threat to him. I believed that Bivol has a chance, with his volume punching, it might take a tool on Beterbiev later on the fight.

So for me Arum is just hiding, and using the WBC as a reason not to fight Bivol. But so far, if they have clean the division already then there is no one to fight but Bivol in the end. So sooner or later maybe we will see it, perhaps in the next 2-3 years, when Beterbiev is on the declined. At least if he lost, Arum has made a lot of money already.

Arum is a master of his job; he knows what he is doing, which is why he is very successful in this business. His statements do not necessarily mean they are true, and as long as he continues to make money, he'll ensure that his lucrative boxer continues to produce for him. Risking against a good boxer is not in his vocabulary, unless he is very confident about Beterbiev, who could be the best in the world in any division he is capable of fighting.

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So now that Canelo Alvarez had signed a 3-fight deal with PBC, Bivol was hanging without an opponent. A pursuit of unifying the belt against the 3-belt holder Artur Beterbiev is in the picture but I wonder if both networks and promoters agree to a deal. But the longer this plays out, the more Beterbiev is disadvantaged due to his age so there is also the possibility that Top Rank and ESPN may not really want to match them unless Bivol can be signed by Top Rank.

DAZN and Eddie Hearn should let Bivol have a 1 or 2 fight deal under the exclusive rights of Top Rank and ESPN if they really want to happen it ASAP. The WBC is all about money so greedy Sulaiman can cancel or make an exemption on its nonsense ban on Russian fighters when given the right amount of cheque.

Well, to be honest, I pretty much hope that WBC will be bribed easily and that the right amount will do the trick to make the undisputed fight into reality before Beterbiev starts considering his retirement. I mean, the man is just a few years away from being a 40 years old and before his retirement phase, at least he can have that fight because it will be total waste if he will retire without having any chance of cementing his legacy.

If there will be no pressure from someone above, I think they can get the WBC's approval with the right figure since they are the only ones who are making a stand to stop the undisputed fight from happening. Other than that, both camps can begin their negotiation and it will be a smooth sailing discussion as long as Eddie Hearn will let Bob Arum to organize it as the latter have the right to demand because it is his boxer who got more belts to offer.

WBC should start to look on the bright side and just accept any offer that is presented on the horizon, there's no need for them to enforce these pressures because in the first place, these Russian boxers have nothing to do with what is happening up North, they are just a private individual who seeks a better future inside the boxing industry. It would be unfair if they will still enforce it these days as that's just like the same as racial profiling, sadly.

Bob Arum already said himself that the undisputed fight will not happen this year because WBC is still not inclined about it.
Link: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/06/dmitry-bivol-vs-artur-beterbiev-wont-happen-this-year-says-bob-arum/#:~:text=By%20Sean%20Jones%3A%20Top%20Rank,current%20ban%20on%20Russian%20athletes.

That is a sad news because we are hoping that somehow this year, they can make a slight negotiation about the said undisputed fight while also working their permit with WBC in the safe side. Among the four sanctioning bodies, only the WBC is making a stand and while the remaining three seems inclined towards the fight because it's a nice paycheck for them.

I think it's more to that, I mean we all know that Arum will have to milk Beterbiev and he doesn't want Arthur to fight someone that will be a threat to him. I believed that Bivol has a chance, with his volume punching, it might take a tool on Beterbiev later on the fight.

So for me Arum is just hiding, and using the WBC as a reason not to fight Bivol. But so far, if they have clean the division already then there is no one to fight but Bivol in the end. So sooner or later maybe we will see it, perhaps in the next 2-3 years, when Beterbiev is on the declined. At least if he lost, Arum has made a lot of money already.

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So now that Canelo Alvarez had signed a 3-fight deal with PBC, Bivol was hanging without an opponent. A pursuit of unifying the belt against the 3-belt holder Artur Beterbiev is in the picture but I wonder if both networks and promoters agree to a deal. But the longer this plays out, the more Beterbiev is disadvantaged due to his age so there is also the possibility that Top Rank and ESPN may not really want to match them unless Bivol can be signed by Top Rank.

DAZN and Eddie Hearn should let Bivol have a 1 or 2 fight deal under the exclusive rights of Top Rank and ESPN if they really want to happen it ASAP. The WBC is all about money so greedy Sulaiman can cancel or make an exemption on its nonsense ban on Russian fighters when given the right amount of cheque.

Well, to be honest, I pretty much hope that WBC will be bribed easily and that the right amount will do the trick to make the undisputed fight into reality before Beterbiev starts considering his retirement. I mean, the man is just a few years away from being a 40 years old and before his retirement phase, at least he can have that fight because it will be total waste if he will retire without having any chance of cementing his legacy.

If there will be no pressure from someone above, I think they can get the WBC's approval with the right figure since they are the only ones who are making a stand to stop the undisputed fight from happening. Other than that, both camps can begin their negotiation and it will be a smooth sailing discussion as long as Eddie Hearn will let Bob Arum to organize it as the latter have the right to demand because it is his boxer who got more belts to offer.

WBC should start to look on the bright side and just accept any offer that is presented on the horizon, there's no need for them to enforce these pressures because in the first place, these Russian boxers have nothing to do with what is happening up North, they are just a private individual who seeks a better future inside the boxing industry. It would be unfair if they will still enforce it these days as that's just like the same as racial profiling, sadly.

Bob Arum already said himself that the undisputed fight will not happen this year because WBC is still not inclined about it.
Link: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/06/dmitry-bivol-vs-artur-beterbiev-wont-happen-this-year-says-bob-arum/#:~:text=By%20Sean%20Jones%3A%20Top%20Rank,current%20ban%20on%20Russian%20athletes.

That is a sad news because we are hoping that somehow this year, they can make a slight negotiation about the said undisputed fight while also working their permit with WBC in the safe side. Among the four sanctioning bodies, only the WBC is making a stand and while the remaining three seems inclined towards the fight because it's a nice paycheck for them.

And Bob Arum said he is in favor of WBC's Russian ban which means he is not also willing to make the fight. I honestly, do not get it, Bivol is an individual fighter, it's not like he is a billionaire or a hundred-million-dollar guy that is remitting huge sums of money to his native homeland. It doesn't make any sense and good thing the other 3 sanctioning bodies and even the UFC the leading MMA organization are not making a ban on individual athletes that needs to earn a living. I even doubt Beterbiev himself is not remitting money to his native Russia where 99% of his relatives and lots of friends are still there.

It's just hypocrisy, especially from the WBC, a known money-first and corrupt organization. I wish they never recovered from that bankruptcy when they lost a case many years ago.

Beterbiev is a nice guy but an upset win by Mundo is good for boxing as I am pretty sure Hearn is willing to pit him against Bivol for the undisputed belts.

Everything that is in regards with the undisputed fight in the light-heavyweight division is quite blurry as of the moment and just like what is said above, there is no signs as well that it may happen this year or even next year because while there is still a tension between Russia and Ukraine, Dmitry Bivol is still banned to participate such big fight.

And for this Mundo, no offense but I just don't think that he got some skills and the right capabilities to be the first one to deliver Beterbiev's defeat in his career. Eventually, Callum Smith will just be a mere additional to Beterbiev's list that he got KO'd.

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So now that Canelo Alvarez had signed a 3-fight deal with PBC, Bivol was hanging without an opponent. A pursuit of unifying the belt against the 3-belt holder Artur Beterbiev is in the picture but I wonder if both networks and promoters agree to a deal. But the longer this plays out, the more Beterbiev is disadvantaged due to his age so there is also the possibility that Top Rank and ESPN may not really want to match them unless Bivol can be signed by Top Rank.

DAZN and Eddie Hearn should let Bivol have a 1 or 2 fight deal under the exclusive rights of Top Rank and ESPN if they really want to happen it ASAP. The WBC is all about money so greedy Sulaiman can cancel or make an exemption on its nonsense ban on Russian fighters when given the right amount of cheque.

Well, to be honest, I pretty much hope that WBC will be bribed easily and that the right amount will do the trick to make the undisputed fight into reality before Beterbiev starts considering his retirement. I mean, the man is just a few years away from being a 40 years old and before his retirement phase, at least he can have that fight because it will be total waste if he will retire without having any chance of cementing his legacy.

If there will be no pressure from someone above, I think they can get the WBC's approval with the right figure since they are the only ones who are making a stand to stop the undisputed fight from happening. Other than that, both camps can begin their negotiation and it will be a smooth sailing discussion as long as Eddie Hearn will let Bob Arum to organize it as the latter have the right to demand because it is his boxer who got more belts to offer.

WBC should start to look on the bright side and just accept any offer that is presented on the horizon, there's no need for them to enforce these pressures because in the first place, these Russian boxers have nothing to do with what is happening up North, they are just a private individual who seeks a better future inside the boxing industry. It would be unfair if they will still enforce it these days as that's just like the same as racial profiling, sadly.

Bob Arum already said himself that the undisputed fight will not happen this year because WBC is still not inclined about it.
Link: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/06/dmitry-bivol-vs-artur-beterbiev-wont-happen-this-year-says-bob-arum/#:~:text=By%20Sean%20Jones%3A%20Top%20Rank,current%20ban%20on%20Russian%20athletes.

That is a sad news because we are hoping that somehow this year, they can make a slight negotiation about the said undisputed fight while also working their permit with WBC in the safe side. Among the four sanctioning bodies, only the WBC is making a stand and while the remaining three seems inclined towards the fight because it's a nice paycheck for them.

And Bob Arum said he is in favor of WBC's Russian ban which means he is not also willing to make the fight. I honestly, do not get it, Bivol is an individual fighter, it's not like he is a billionaire or a hundred-million-dollar guy that is remitting huge sums of money to his native homeland. It doesn't make any sense and good thing the other 3 sanctioning bodies and even the UFC the leading MMA organization are not making a ban on individual athletes that needs to earn a living. I even doubt Beterbiev himself is not remitting money to his native Russia where 99% of his relatives and lots of friends are still there.

It's just hypocrisy, especially from the WBC, a known money-first and corrupt organization. I wish they never recovered from that bankruptcy when they lost a case many years ago.

Beterbiev is a nice guy but an upset win by Mundo is good for boxing as I am pretty sure Hearn is willing to pit him against Bivol for the undisputed belts.

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