Topic: Beterbiev Vs Smith January 13 SATURDAY IBF / WBC / WBO LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT Title - page 6. (Read 750 times)
May 29, 2023, 11:35:57 PM
^ WBA, WBC, IBF and basically under WBO though which if WBO mandate these fighters, the politics can no longer work for them. WBO rule them all.
All these politics can make fighters look like they are ducking each other but most probably they are just finding ways to make money for their organization.
Bivol however, if he fights Arthur, he might lose which these organization also try to meddle.
May 29, 2023, 09:45:49 PM
@aioc. Hehe agreed. Also make it 7 votes including me.
In any case, on Bivol vs. Beterbiev, it appears that it is Beterbiev who is avoiding a chance for a unification of all the championships in their division. Bivol wants a challenge. There were some articles that mentioned Bivol wants to go down to super middleweight to fight Canelo for all his titles. A challenge which was certainly evaded by the Mexican hehehehe.
In any case, on Bivol vs. Beterbiev, it appears that it is Beterbiev who is avoiding a chance for a unification of all the championships in their division. Bivol wants a challenge. There were some articles that mentioned Bivol wants to go down to super middleweight to fight Canelo for all his titles. A challenge which was certainly evaded by the Mexican hehehehe.
What you said is quite debatable mate because I doubt that Beterbiev's supporters will just stay down and be quiet especially for this one because you did said that he was the one who was avoiding in making the unification fight happen. But I come in peace
just kidding. That said, I'm both supporters of Bivol and Beterbiev, and I surely want to witness a unification fight between the both of them but unfortunately, that just cannot happen for now because the sanctioning bodies is not inclined in making it a reality because of Bivol's situation.
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Dmitry Bivol Will Be Blocked From Undisputed Fight Against Artur Beterbiev.
Dmitry Bivol's dream of becoming undisputed light heavyweight champion of the world will be blocked by the WBC due to his status as a Russian national. - Written by Kerr Ferguson.
SourceDmitry Bivol's dream of becoming undisputed light heavyweight champion of the world will be blocked by the WBC due to his status as a Russian national. - Written by Kerr Ferguson.
And that is also the reason why Callum Smith was selected to fight Artur Beterbiev in the meantime.
Hehe I am always first to admit if I am wrong. Thank you for this information. This has been rumored since 2022 when Bivol was chasing Beterbiev for a fight. However, everyone did not take the rumor much seriously and it was probably what started another rumor. Beterbiev is avoiding Bivol hehehehee.
In any case, it appears what prevents Bivol vs. Beterbiev is again politics. Similar to why much of the superfights are also not organized or takes too long to be organized.
May 29, 2023, 08:23:19 PM
Poll result = 100% Beterbiev
Its not surprising. Beterbiev has 100% success rate in knocking his opponent. He is much dangerous than Bivol so theres no argument about that even if Smith has more ring experience.
I'm the 8th voter and yes, there's no other vote other than the "Beteriev by KO".
Make my vote 9, Beterbiev has been fighting and cherry-picking fighters and he is not getting any younger anymore, he cannot establish his legacy for lack of real opponents that can challenge him, the organization and promoters should move to get the Bivol - Beterbiev, there's too much politics on boxing now that they don't want this to happen, and this is very unfortunate.
Even if it's a nontitle fight they should square off the ring to see who really is the best light heavyweight fighter in this generation.
Politics will find a way but its really going to be a big fight when they are match to someone from US and Mexico and not fight against fellow countrymen.
May 29, 2023, 07:48:24 PM
I'm the 8th voter and yes, there's no other vote other than the "Beteriev by KO".
Make my vote 9, Beterbiev has been fighting and cherry-picking fighters and he is not getting any younger anymore, he cannot establish his legacy for lack of real opponents that can challenge him, the organization and promoters should move to get the Bivol - Beterbiev, there's too much politics on boxing now that they don't want this to happen, and this is very unfortunate.
Even if it's a nontitle fight they should square off the ring to see who really is the best light heavyweight fighter in this generation.
May 29, 2023, 02:34:13 PM
@aioc. Hehe agreed. Also make it 7 votes including me.
In any case, on Bivol vs. Beterbiev, it appears that it is Beterbiev who is avoiding a chance for a unification of all the championships in their division. Bivol wants a challenge. There were some articles that mentioned Bivol wants to go down to super middleweight to fight Canelo for all his titles. A challenge which was certainly evaded by the Mexican hehehehe.
In any case, on Bivol vs. Beterbiev, it appears that it is Beterbiev who is avoiding a chance for a unification of all the championships in their division. Bivol wants a challenge. There were some articles that mentioned Bivol wants to go down to super middleweight to fight Canelo for all his titles. A challenge which was certainly evaded by the Mexican hehehehe.
What you said is quite debatable mate because I doubt that Beterbiev's supporters will just stay down and be quiet especially for this one because you did said that he was the one who was avoiding in making the unification fight happen. But I come in peace
just kidding. That said, I'm both supporters of Bivol and Beterbiev, and I surely want to witness a unification fight between the both of them but unfortunately, that just cannot happen for now because the sanctioning bodies is not inclined in making it a reality because of Bivol's situation.
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Dmitry Bivol Will Be Blocked From Undisputed Fight Against Artur Beterbiev.
Dmitry Bivol's dream of becoming undisputed light heavyweight champion of the world will be blocked by the WBC due to his status as a Russian national. - Written by Kerr Ferguson.
SourceDmitry Bivol's dream of becoming undisputed light heavyweight champion of the world will be blocked by the WBC due to his status as a Russian national. - Written by Kerr Ferguson.
And that is also the reason why Callum Smith was selected to fight Artur Beterbiev in the meantime.
May 29, 2023, 07:14:17 AM
That is indeed obvious, as Callum Smith is no longer an undefeated boxer after his loss to Canelo. Perhaps Beterbiev is trying to find the right timing before fighting Bivol, as he is aware that he is not getting any younger. Although Beterbiev is known for his knockout power, he is already 38 years old, while Bivol is only 32 years old. Age is certainly a factor in boxing, and typically, at the age of 38, fighters are considered to be approaching retirement age.
I'm the 8th voter and yes, there's no other vote other than the "Beteriev by KO".
Callum Smith did survive the Canelo onslaught by this time around against the monster, I don't think he will still stand until the final bell sounds. Maybe this is some sort of a tune-up for Beterbiev before his promoter Uncle Bob finally agrees to a fight with Bivol for the unification. He may be 39 or 40 at that time so no more reason for Top Rank to still hold on to Beterbiev as he will be very old at that time.
If indeed Bivol vs Beterbiev will push through, this would be interesting as it will be dubbed as "Battle for Russia's King"
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May 29, 2023, 05:31:40 AM
@aioc. Hehe agreed. Also make it 7 votes including me.
In any case, on Bivol vs. Beterbiev, it appears that it is Beterbiev who is avoiding a chance for a unification of all the championships in their division. Bivol wants a challenge. There were some articles that mentioned Bivol wants to go down to super middleweight to fight Canelo for all his titles. A challenge which was certainly evaded by the Mexican hehehehe.
In any case, on Bivol vs. Beterbiev, it appears that it is Beterbiev who is avoiding a chance for a unification of all the championships in their division. Bivol wants a challenge. There were some articles that mentioned Bivol wants to go down to super middleweight to fight Canelo for all his titles. A challenge which was certainly evaded by the Mexican hehehehe.
Because Canelo knows that if ever he beats Bivol at a168 lbs, he will be criticized for that, and their first fight is 175 lbs, so why go down to 168 lbs if there is a rematch?
As for the upcoming fight, yes, Callum Smith has suffered a lost in the hands of Canelo and although this is a different weight class now and maybe this is his natural weight, it will be hard pressed to beat Beterbiev. Arthur remains to be the best in this division and the only true test for him is another Russian in Bivol.
May 29, 2023, 03:07:51 AM
@aioc. Hehe agreed. Also make it 7 votes including me.
In any case, on Bivol vs. Beterbiev, it appears that it is Beterbiev who is avoiding a chance for a unification of all the championships in their division. Bivol wants a challenge. There were some articles that mentioned Bivol wants to go down to super middleweight to fight Canelo for all his titles. A challenge which was certainly evaded by the Mexican hehehehe.
In any case, on Bivol vs. Beterbiev, it appears that it is Beterbiev who is avoiding a chance for a unification of all the championships in their division. Bivol wants a challenge. There were some articles that mentioned Bivol wants to go down to super middleweight to fight Canelo for all his titles. A challenge which was certainly evaded by the Mexican hehehehe.
That is indeed obvious, as Callum Smith is no longer an undefeated boxer after his loss to Canelo. Perhaps Beterbiev is trying to find the right timing before fighting Bivol, as he is aware that he is not getting any younger. Although Beterbiev is known for his knockout power, he is already 38 years old, while Bivol is only 32 years old. Age is certainly a factor in boxing, and typically, at the age of 38, fighters are considered to be approaching retirement age.
May 29, 2023, 12:07:11 AM
@aioc. Hehe agreed. Also make it 7 votes including me.
In any case, on Bivol vs. Beterbiev, it appears that it is Beterbiev who is avoiding a chance for a unification of all the championships in their division. Bivol wants a challenge. There were some articles that mentioned Bivol wants to go down to super middleweight to fight Canelo for all his titles. A challenge which was certainly evaded by the Mexican hehehehe.
In any case, on Bivol vs. Beterbiev, it appears that it is Beterbiev who is avoiding a chance for a unification of all the championships in their division. Bivol wants a challenge. There were some articles that mentioned Bivol wants to go down to super middleweight to fight Canelo for all his titles. A challenge which was certainly evaded by the Mexican hehehehe.
May 28, 2023, 11:30:45 PM
I'm not surprised on the current result of the poll
If we have 50 voters all 50 voters who know Beterbiev and Smith will go for Beterbiev, Beterbiev is just too good for Smith and there are better fighters that Beterbiev fought in the past and he punished and knocks them all out, Smith is no different the poll should not be on the winner it's on what rounds Beterbiev will knock out Smith, if by chance there is an upset, it's going to be the biggest upset in the history of boxing.
Promoters should give the Biterbiev - Bivol match, they deserve each other and it's long overdue.
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Beterbiev by knock out - 6 (100%)
Beterbiev by decision - 0 (0%)
Smith by knock out - 0 (0%)
Smith by decision - 0 (0%)
Draw - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 6
Beterbiev by decision - 0 (0%)
Smith by knock out - 0 (0%)
Smith by decision - 0 (0%)
Draw - 0 (0%)
Total Voters: 6
If we have 50 voters all 50 voters who know Beterbiev and Smith will go for Beterbiev, Beterbiev is just too good for Smith and there are better fighters that Beterbiev fought in the past and he punished and knocks them all out, Smith is no different the poll should not be on the winner it's on what rounds Beterbiev will knock out Smith, if by chance there is an upset, it's going to be the biggest upset in the history of boxing.
Promoters should give the Biterbiev - Bivol match, they deserve each other and it's long overdue.
May 28, 2023, 06:36:38 AM
I wouldn't say that Beterbiev is facing the very dangerous Callum Smith because I view the opposite thing especially when the name Artur Beterbiev is involved. Therefore, it is Callum Smith who will be facing the very dangerous and undefeated Artur Beterbiev who holds and boasts the 100% KO rate.
Smith might have a very decent knockout rate with over 70 percent but if we compared it to Beterbiev's, that somehow much lower and forgive me if it will make me sound that I underestimate Smith, but against the 3-belt champion? I seriously don't see this fight ending in the challenger's favor nor I don't even believe that this bout will be decided in hands of the judges.
Smith might have a very decent knockout rate with over 70 percent but if we compared it to Beterbiev's, that somehow much lower and forgive me if it will make me sound that I underestimate Smith, but against the 3-belt champion? I seriously don't see this fight ending in the challenger's favor nor I don't even believe that this bout will be decided in hands of the judges.
May 28, 2023, 05:50:59 AM
Callum Smith may have an edge when it comes to experience but Beterbiev can take punches and at the same time has power in both hands, I see Beterbiev chasing Callum, and when Beterbiev hit him with body punches the next that will fall is the head.
Beterieve will go to the body first then next to the head while he chases Callum because Callum has the height and reach advantage
he will use it and do a hit-and-run method as he did in his match against Canelo.
This match is very predictable unless Callum goes toe-to-toe which is very risky for him because Beterbiev can easily take him out
I hope after this fight we'll have an all-Russian match between Bivol - and Beterbiev for the undisputed light heavyweight championship.
Beterieve will go to the body first then next to the head while he chases Callum because Callum has the height and reach advantage
he will use it and do a hit-and-run method as he did in his match against Canelo.
This match is very predictable unless Callum goes toe-to-toe which is very risky for him because Beterbiev can easily take him out
I hope after this fight we'll have an all-Russian match between Bivol - and Beterbiev for the undisputed light heavyweight championship.
May 28, 2023, 04:50:03 AM
I also got Beterbiev here to win by a knockout maybe in the later rounds, in his last fight against big Anthony Yarde, Beterbiev started slow and then Yarde found success in his counter punch.
But as soon as Arthur get a feel of the fight and just like a engine that started hot late, he was able to stop Yarde in 8th rounds.
And I don't think that Smith will be ready for a bruising fight against the power puncher in Anthony Beterbiev. So we might see 20 out of 20 knockout.
But as soon as Arthur get a feel of the fight and just like a engine that started hot late, he was able to stop Yarde in 8th rounds.
And I don't think that Smith will be ready for a bruising fight against the power puncher in Anthony Beterbiev. So we might see 20 out of 20 knockout.
May 28, 2023, 01:50:23 AM
Although Smith is a good boxer, I don't think that he can upset Beterbiev here. I mean we have seen how Beterbiev's power and the only fighter that we are interested of him fighting next is Bivol for the unification fight.
No offense to Smith, this might be just another tune up fight for Beterbiev, stay busy fight before they can see if they can get Bivol next. Although the plan for Bivol right now is to rematch Canelo. But maybe down the line we might see Beterbiev vs Bivol. But currently, Beterbiev might stay active so that he won't have the ring rust because he is not getting any younger as well.
So I voted for: Beterbiev by knock out
No offense to Smith, this might be just another tune up fight for Beterbiev, stay busy fight before they can see if they can get Bivol next. Although the plan for Bivol right now is to rematch Canelo. But maybe down the line we might see Beterbiev vs Bivol. But currently, Beterbiev might stay active so that he won't have the ring rust because he is not getting any younger as well.
So I voted for: Beterbiev by knock out
May 28, 2023, 01:29:13 AM
Beterbiev is staking the three titles he is holding against the very dangerous Callum Smith
Both fighters have a very good knockout percentage with Beterbiev boosting with 100% knock out but Callum is also known as the guy who can deliver a good fight he is younger and more experienced than Beterbiev I'm sure Callum has learned a lot from his only loss against Canelo and he will use it against Beterbiev
So who you got in this fight?
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Both fighters have a very good knockout percentage with Beterbiev boosting with 100% knock out but Callum is also known as the guy who can deliver a good fight he is younger and more experienced than Beterbiev I'm sure Callum has learned a lot from his only loss against Canelo and he will use it against Beterbiev
So who you got in this fight?
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