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I have never blackmailed anyone, including Betfury. The act of retroactively changing an affiliate deal is unethical unless there is a mutual agreement on how this is going to be handled, ie paying out a lump sum and letting it go, full stop. And that is when I shared this in public (Medium). So is not following up on cashback promises and selectively making up some terms that do not exist, not to this very day. That is when I shared this 2nd story in public (Medium).

For what it is worth, I am long over this story and I could not care less about it nowadays.

Nb. It is hilarious that you seem to be playing the victim card now when it is YOU literally taking massive advantage of the big traffic we have sent you --> not honoring the negotiated deal

Nb 2. I am removing the negative tag here on the forum anyway, not because it did not happen but simply because there are way more brands that have acted similarly shady and whom I never tagged

Nb 3. Any discussion on the subject on a professional base shall happen via email (you know our official email address) in case you ever want to solve this. We have tried more than once, with no success.

Thanks, we're not interested in talking about it anymore. Just like you, we are not interested in discussing this case. Users ask - we/you answer. I hope we will continue to discuss the platform and token here. Wish you all the best 🤗
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I have never blackmailed anyone, including Betfury. The act of retroactively changing an affiliate deal is unethical unless there is a mutual agreement on how this is going to be handled, ie paying out a lump sum and letting it go, full stop. And that is when I shared this in public (Medium). So is not following up on cashback promises and selectively making up some terms that do not exist, not to this very day. That is when I shared this 2nd story in public (Medium).

For what it is worth, I am long over this story and I could not care less about it nowadays.

Nb. It is hilarious that you seem to be playing the victim card now when it is YOU literally taking massive advantage of the big traffic we have sent you --> not honoring the negotiated deal

Nb 2. I am removing the negative tag here on the forum anyway, not because it did not happen but simply because there are way more brands that have acted similarly shady and whom I never tagged

Nb 3. Any discussion on the subject on a professional base shall happen via email (you know our official email address) in case you ever want to solve this. We have tried more than once, with no success.

Edit. Never mind, the tag will remain - such audacity, arrogance, and unprofessionalism deserves just that

"They don't wanna discuss it, they rather keep ripping off their fellow partner..." - yeah, you love the wild west
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@BetFury.io, have you not been warned not to make multi posting in a row? You can response in a single post to more than one user.

And I would really like to hear how Effie tried to manipulate you. Smiley
Is this efialtis?

As far as I know, he demanded better conditions for himself or he will go to write complaints (what he did). Best regards, Kate
Can you show some conversation reference between you two?
This does not sound right. It sounds blackmailing. Do this or I will make you look bad kind of things.

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Am I wrong, or shouldn't it mean that 400k to 5k is a solid number? I mean I have been in affiliate work all my life, and have been in crypto gambling affiliate world for over 6-7 years now if I am not wrong. So far, getting %1 of the deposits is not that bad, wagered is something tricky because you don't know if they won or lost, losing 400k and losing 10k but wagering 2.5+ million would be different results, hence it doesn't really tell you anything that they wagered, but looking at how much was deposit, and how much of it you got, that looks like good? If my affiliates deposited 400k, and I got 5k out of that, I would consider myself lucky to be fair, normally house edge is %1 anyway, and you are getting more than that from affiliates.

Maybe I am missing something, I wouldn't want to say anything bad about efialtis neither, he is a good dude, there could be some miscommunication or wrong math somewhere from either side, this just doesn't look too bad to me.

The affiliate program is currently under development. Like all our features, it will be cool and competitive. Now we are working with a referral system
Great news.  Of course, the community is waiting for new improvements and suggestions from you.  And although I'm not too fond of ways to advance through referral systems, but this is just my perception of the process.  I think devs and OP also know better how to run their business further. 

In any case, I like having my own BFG token and everything connected with it.  Of course, I want to know what is planned to be done to develop the direction related to the use of the token.  And in particular, how are things going with its listing on new exchanges. 
Users of this topic often ask about it here.

Many casinos do not have mining and staking, which allows them to easily integrate a regular affiliate system. Everything works a little more complicated for us, so development takes a lot of time and resources. It makes no sense to say that everything will be the best. Soon you will see for yourself
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Am I wrong, or shouldn't it mean that 400k to 5k is a solid number? I mean I have been in affiliate work all my life, and have been in crypto gambling affiliate world for over 6-7 years now if I am not wrong. So far, getting %1 of the deposits is not that bad, wagered is something tricky because you don't know if they won or lost, losing 400k and losing 10k but wagering 2.5+ million would be different results, hence it doesn't really tell you anything that they wagered, but looking at how much was deposit, and how much of it you got, that looks like good? If my affiliates deposited 400k, and I got 5k out of that, I would consider myself lucky to be fair, normally house edge is %1 anyway, and you are getting more than that from affiliates.

Maybe I am missing something, I wouldn't want to say anything bad about efialtis neither, he is a good dude, there could be some miscommunication or wrong math somewhere from either side, this just doesn't look too bad to me.

The affiliate program is currently under development. Like all our features, it will be cool and competitive. Now we are working with a referral system

Well, it's not just about the money and math... As we can see you (Betfury) made a unilateral decision to change the deal, without any notifications, just like that. You say you respect constructive criticism so why didn't you respond to this one? Because retroactively changing the agreement is definitely not right. And I would really like to hear how Effie tried to manipulate you. Smiley

Captain Corporate, I'm not sure if this is the right place for this discussion, but if you are in affiliate work all your life are you familiar with affiliate commissions in other crypto and fiat casinos? I saw some numbers and the difference is pretty big in some cases... I guess it's something you can check by yourself with a little googling!

And let's not mix affiliate and referral programs! Wink

If you mean an agreement with the mentioned user (who writes various nonsense in his blog), he had an increased percentage of referral payments. His users really made a lot of deposits. But the referral system is a referral system and we are not able to change something for one affiliate. As far as I know, he demanded better conditions for himself or he will go to write complaints (what he did). Best regards, Kate
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Am I wrong, or shouldn't it mean that 400k to 5k is a solid number? I mean I have been in affiliate work all my life, and have been in crypto gambling affiliate world for over 6-7 years now if I am not wrong. So far, getting %1 of the deposits is not that bad, wagered is something tricky because you don't know if they won or lost, losing 400k and losing 10k but wagering 2.5+ million would be different results, hence it doesn't really tell you anything that they wagered, but looking at how much was deposit, and how much of it you got, that looks like good? If my affiliates deposited 400k, and I got 5k out of that, I would consider myself lucky to be fair, normally house edge is %1 anyway, and you are getting more than that from affiliates.

Maybe I am missing something, I wouldn't want to say anything bad about efialtis neither, he is a good dude, there could be some miscommunication or wrong math somewhere from either side, this just doesn't look too bad to me.

The affiliate program is currently under development. Like all our features, it will be cool and competitive. Now we are working with a referral system

Well, it's not just about the money and math... As we can see you (Betfury) made a unilateral decision to change the deal, without any notifications, just like that. You say you respect constructive criticism so why didn't you respond to this one? Because retroactively changing the agreement is definitely not right. And I would really like to hear how Effie tried to manipulate you. Smiley

Captain Corporate, I'm not sure if this is the right place for this discussion, but if you are in affiliate work all your life are you familiar with affiliate commissions in other crypto and fiat casinos? I saw some numbers and the difference is pretty big in some cases... I guess it's something you can check by yourself with a little googling!

And let's not mix affiliate and referral programs! Wink
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Am I wrong, or shouldn't it mean that 400k to 5k is a solid number? I mean I have been in affiliate work all my life, and have been in crypto gambling affiliate world for over 6-7 years now if I am not wrong. So far, getting %1 of the deposits is not that bad, wagered is something tricky because you don't know if they won or lost, losing 400k and losing 10k but wagering 2.5+ million would be different results, hence it doesn't really tell you anything that they wagered, but looking at how much was deposit, and how much of it you got, that looks like good? If my affiliates deposited 400k, and I got 5k out of that, I would consider myself lucky to be fair, normally house edge is %1 anyway, and you are getting more than that from affiliates.

Maybe I am missing something, I wouldn't want to say anything bad about efialtis neither, he is a good dude, there could be some miscommunication or wrong math somewhere from either side, this just doesn't look too bad to me.

The affiliate program is currently under development. Like all our features, it will be cool and competitive. Now we are working with a referral system
Great news.  Of course, the community is waiting for new improvements and suggestions from you.  And although I'm not too fond of ways to advance through referral systems, but this is just my perception of the process.  I think devs and OP also know better how to run their business further. 

In any case, I like having my own BFG token and everything connected with it.  Of course, I want to know what is planned to be done to develop the direction related to the use of the token.  And in particular, how are things going with its listing on new exchanges. 
Users of this topic often ask about it here.
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Am I wrong, or shouldn't it mean that 400k to 5k is a solid number? I mean I have been in affiliate work all my life, and have been in crypto gambling affiliate world for over 6-7 years now if I am not wrong. So far, getting %1 of the deposits is not that bad, wagered is something tricky because you don't know if they won or lost, losing 400k and losing 10k but wagering 2.5+ million would be different results, hence it doesn't really tell you anything that they wagered, but looking at how much was deposit, and how much of it you got, that looks like good? If my affiliates deposited 400k, and I got 5k out of that, I would consider myself lucky to be fair, normally house edge is %1 anyway, and you are getting more than that from affiliates.

Maybe I am missing something, I wouldn't want to say anything bad about efialtis neither, he is a good dude, there could be some miscommunication or wrong math somewhere from either side, this just doesn't look too bad to me.

The affiliate program is currently under development. Like all our features, it will be cool and competitive. Now we are working with a referral system
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Am I wrong, or shouldn't it mean that 400k to 5k is a solid number? I mean I have been in affiliate work all my life, and have been in crypto gambling affiliate world for over 6-7 years now if I am not wrong. So far, getting %1 of the deposits is not that bad, wagered is something tricky because you don't know if they won or lost, losing 400k and losing 10k but wagering 2.5+ million would be different results, hence it doesn't really tell you anything that they wagered, but looking at how much was deposit, and how much of it you got, that looks like good? If my affiliates deposited 400k, and I got 5k out of that, I would consider myself lucky to be fair, normally house edge is %1 anyway, and you are getting more than that from affiliates.

Maybe I am missing something, I wouldn't want to say anything bad about efialtis neither, he is a good dude, there could be some miscommunication or wrong math somewhere from either side, this just doesn't look too bad to me.
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Congratulations for 3 years of operating. As a proud BFG holder, I’m very happy that casino is financially stable due to the amount of prizes given away for the upcoming grand birth day event. It just hurting me to see the active negative feedback on your trust history without being addressed properly by your representative. Are you aware about the issue or you are ignoring it and leave it unanswered.

Clearing your reputation on this thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-crypto-igaming-still-has-a-long-way-to-go-5400484 will clear your reputation to a rock solid than before. I hope that you will give a statement on the thread that I attached to finally answer the issue about your referral commission.

Welcome! Fortunately, our reputation is not based on the experience of cooperation with people who are trying to manipulate us. More than 1.5 million accounts are registered on the platform. Many of the real players and referrals are present on this forum. We respect constructive criticism and do not plan to discuss with the person you mentioned  Wink

I checked the thread and I think OP is not telling the truth about BetFury Referrals System

1) At the beginning, the wager amount was just a multiplication..If an altcoin was raising against BTC, the total wagered amount shown in BTC was increasing too (without wager)
2) The referral commission is calculated on pure profit... so basically if you referrals set win chance 95% the commission is very low.
3) OP's referrals wagered  approximately 13.77B and he said that the commission should be at least 1.4B (approximately 1% profit on each bet and don't think such ref program exist).

Anyway, i'm a BetFury promoter and earned good commissions in last 2 years!
Step by step i built my downline and now i'm really satisfied about daily earnings...

Good Luck everyone

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Funny Grin you mean you don't need any of that, and all you need is the BMW M8. The car is dope anyways and I will love to ride in it but then I wish everyone the best of luck with whoever wins this car I just hope the winner will come from this forum so we can join to celebrate Betfury on this forum and also I was glad to see their signature campaign have been the relaunch.
I also hope that the member community of the forum can win the grand prize for the BMW M8 and we are just waiting that someone will open a new thread to celebrate the win of the grand prize, well hopefully that will happen. I'm glad that the signature campaign has reopened and hope they have the longest campaign in the forum.
Yeah let be hoping to see that one member here will share the lucky story soon as the promo is so enticing, the market has really been good for the Betfury team as their token, and also seeing that their signature campaign payment is made 50% of their native token as that will give the token a wider exposure in the market thereby increasing the trading activities.
Yes, I saw that they have relaunched their signature campaign. And they have changed the payment sistem a bit. Now they will give half of the payment to their token and the rest of the payment to bitcoin. I think the sistem they have made is good for them. They turn on and off again. I don't understand why they do that.

Thank you for your attention to the launch of the campaign. We use this tool for information about events. At this stage, we see no reason to constantly spend money on advertising in bitcointalk, where our page is constantly at the top of discussions.
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It's only a matter of time if it is necessary the marketing team will do it and we don't know if they have the budget for it
Last week I saw Berfury twitter post a streamer, have they worked with some streamers? if yes, it means they know the best way to promote
Because collaborating with streamers is the most used way crypto casinos for promotion right now.

Betfury held a Twitch streamer competition in August, and the winner of this competition got a contract with Betfury and brand ambassador status. I agree that streaming is one of the best ways to attract new audiences. However, it's worth noting that Twitch has recently changed its gambling policy. Since October 18, this streaming platform has started to ban the streaming of gambling sites without an appropriate license. As far as I know, Betfury already has a Curacao license, but I don't know if having this license is enough to avoid new Twitch restrictions.

We plan to stay on Twitch in a different format, which will be related to the crypto industry and gambling in general. Also, BetFury has already created an account on DLive https://dlive.tv/Betfuryofficial
stay tuned
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Congratulations for 3 years of operating. As a proud BFG holder, I’m very happy that casino is financially stable due to the amount of prizes given away for the upcoming grand birth day event. It just hurting me to see the active negative feedback on your trust history without being addressed properly by your representative. Are you aware about the issue or you are ignoring it and leave it unanswered.

Clearing your reputation on this thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-crypto-igaming-still-has-a-long-way-to-go-5400484 will clear your reputation to a rock solid than before. I hope that you will give a statement on the thread that I attached to finally answer the issue about your referral commission.

Welcome! Fortunately, our reputation is not based on the experience of cooperation with people who are trying to manipulate us. More than 1.5 million accounts are registered on the platform. Many of the real players and referrals are present on this forum. We respect constructive criticism and do not plan to discuss with the person you mentioned  Wink
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Funny Grin you mean you don't need any of that, and all you need is the BMW M8. The car is dope anyways and I will love to ride in it but then I wish everyone the best of luck with whoever wins this car I just hope the winner will come from this forum so we can join to celebrate Betfury on this forum and also I was glad to see their signature campaign have been the relaunch.
I also hope that the member community of the forum can win the grand prize for the BMW M8 and we are just waiting that someone will open a new thread to celebrate the win of the grand prize, well hopefully that will happen. I'm glad that the signature campaign has reopened and hope they have the longest campaign in the forum.
Yeah let be hoping to see that one member here will share the lucky story soon as the promo is so enticing, the market has really been good for the Betfury team as their token, and also seeing that their signature campaign payment is made 50% of their native token as that will give the token a wider exposure in the market thereby increasing the trading activities.
Yes, I saw that they have relaunched their signature campaign. And they have changed the payment sistem a bit. Now they will give half of the payment to their token and the rest of the payment to bitcoin. I think the sistem they have made is good for them. They turn on and off again. I don't understand why they do that.
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Funny Grin you mean you don't need any of that, and all you need is the BMW M8. The car is dope anyways and I will love to ride in it but then I wish everyone the best of luck with whoever wins this car I just hope the winner will come from this forum so we can join to celebrate Betfury on this forum and also I was glad to see their signature campaign have been the relaunch.
I also hope that the member community of the forum can win the grand prize for the BMW M8 and we are just waiting that someone will open a new thread to celebrate the win of the grand prize, well hopefully that will happen. I'm glad that the signature campaign has reopened and hope they have the longest campaign in the forum.
Yeah let be hoping to see that one member here will share the lucky story soon as the promo is so enticing, the market has really been good for the Betfury team as their token, and also seeing that their signature campaign payment is made 50% of their native token as that will give the token a wider exposure in the market thereby increasing the trading activities.
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Funny Grin you mean you don't need any of that, and all you need is the BMW M8. The car is dope anyways and I will love to ride in it but then I wish everyone the best of luck with whoever wins this car I just hope the winner will come from this forum so we can join to celebrate Betfury on this forum and also I was glad to see their signature campaign have been the relaunch.
I also hope that the member community of the forum can win the grand prize for the BMW M8 and we are just waiting that someone will open a new thread to celebrate the win of the grand prize, well hopefully that will happen. I'm glad that the signature campaign has reopened and hope they have the longest campaign in the forum.

What I am wondering is if there are many high rollers coming from this forum playing on betfury?
Anyway, with the huge rewards they are offering for this birthday celebration, it means, they are pretty doing great with their business.
Also, they have special gifts like increased RTP and new farming pair with BFG for other players.
They are making waves for this 3rd bday celebration, it means, their marketing team is doing their job to expose this casino/sportsbook.
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It's only a matter of time if it is necessary the marketing team will do it and we don't know if they have the budget for it
Last week I saw Berfury twitter post a streamer, have they worked with some streamers? if yes, it means they know the best way to promote
Because collaborating with streamers is the most used way crypto casinos for promotion right now.
Betfury held a Twitch streamer competition in August, and the winner of this competition got a contract with Betfury and brand ambassador status. I agree that streaming is one of the best ways to attract new audiences. However, it's worth noting that Twitch has recently changed its gambling policy. Since October 18, this streaming platform has started to ban the streaming of gambling sites without an appropriate license. As far as I know, Betfury already has a Curacao license, but I don't know if having this license is enough to avoid new Twitch restrictions.
The hunt for the streamer happened on august but the new policy on twitch happened on october. It's clear that betfury didn't expect this. I feel sorry for the chosen streamer because they tried their best only to be chosen and what if twitch remove betfury like what it did with other casinos?

There are still other ways for betfury to do a promotion but maybe they will just provide some cash assistance to the streamer in case the unfortunate things happened. Other sites which have removed by twitch do also have a curacao license so it wasn't the appropriate license twitch are looking for but let see if what can happen in this coming days/weeks.
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Funny Grin you mean you don't need any of that, and all you need is the BMW M8. The car is dope anyways and I will love to ride in it but then I wish everyone the best of luck with whoever wins this car I just hope the winner will come from this forum so we can join to celebrate Betfury on this forum and also I was glad to see their signature campaign have been the relaunch.
I also hope that the member community of the forum can win the grand prize for the BMW M8 and we are just waiting that someone will open a new thread to celebrate the win of the grand prize, well hopefully that will happen. I'm glad that the signature campaign has reopened and hope they have the longest campaign in the forum.
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1 whopping million dollar giveaway plus a trip to Las Vegas and a BMW M8 just to celebrate a birthday?
Damn! This is a an expensive giveaway and also a good prove that business has been really profitable for betfury.

Happy Birthday to Betfury and congratulations in advance to all the users that are going to be partaking and winning a share of this reward.
If am asked what I want, I did tell betfury to keep their 1 million dollar, keep their Las Vegas trip, just give me the BMW(Be My Wife) M8, and am good  Grin Grin.
Funny Grin you mean you don't need any of that, and all you need is the BMW M8. The car is dope anyways and I will love to ride in it but then I wish everyone the best of luck with whoever wins this car I just hope the winner will come from this forum so we can join to celebrate Betfury on this forum and also I was glad to see their signature campaign have been the relaunch.
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1 whopping million dollar giveaway plus a trip to Las Vegas and a BMW M8 just to celebrate a birthday?
Damn! This is a an expensive giveaway and also a good prove that business has been really profitable for betfury.

Happy Birthday to Betfury and congratulations in advance to all the users that are going to be partaking and winning a share of this reward.
If am asked what I want, I did tell betfury to keep their 1 million dollar, keep their Las Vegas trip, just give me the BMW(Be My Wife) M8 and am good  Grin Grin.

Ok I will not talk much about the $1 million prize because  I know I will not be able to compete there maybe just watched
But is there no special prize for other users? I mean as one of the users even though not an active user at least there is something event that we can enjoy as we usually get in other casinos like free credit or free bet.
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