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legendary
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Well, as long as we can gamble at Betfury without KYC it will be fine for me! I hope that will not change just because of the listing on Binance!

I think even if the Betfury team decides to add KYC to the site, then the listing on Binance or any other centralized exchange will clearly not be the reason why the Betfury team will do it. By the way, although Betfury does not currently have mandatory verification for all users, you should always keep in mind that they reserve the right to require KYC at any time. At least it is mentioned in their rules.

That is true, as they have Curacao gaming license, they can ask for KYC whenever they deem it is necessary.
However, for now, just enjoy the opportunity that they are not yet asking KYC from their players.
But we don't know if the high rollers are already submitting KYC though.
In any case, if their listing with binance will push thru, we don't know if betfury will now ask KYC from all their users.
Since the application now has changed, the process is now slow so for now, DEXs and other CEXs are more than enough.
Any licensed gambling sites could potentially ask out for some verification and mostly you could able to read up this on their terms and conditions which its a must on reading it out on the first place.

Usually they do ask out some KYC for some issues like exploits or other behavioral concern and as for whales then for sure they are really having those KYC
considering on how much money that they are putting into the platform which could really trigger out about money laundering or something in related.

You said it right, casino might ask for this as also part of their requirement, money laundering mostly the reason and casino owners wanted to avoid losing their permit operating if they will forget asking for KYC in every huge amount of money that will be in and out from their service. Though there are some cases that in the gamblers' views, asking for KYC is also part of the casino to extend the process of paying if the lucky gamblers wanted to take away their money out of the house.

It's a case to case and will be depend on how active you are in reading and understanding the house rules of the site.

Very important that you are well aware it will help you not to worry in anyhow.
sr. member
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Well, as long as we can gamble at Betfury without KYC it will be fine for me! I hope that will not change just because of the listing on Binance!

I think even if the Betfury team decides to add KYC to the site, then the listing on Binance or any other centralized exchange will clearly not be the reason why the Betfury team will do it. By the way, although Betfury does not currently have mandatory verification for all users, you should always keep in mind that they reserve the right to require KYC at any time. At least it is mentioned in their rules.

That is true, as they have Curacao gaming license, they can ask for KYC whenever they deem it is necessary.
However, for now, just enjoy the opportunity that they are not yet asking KYC from their players.
But we don't know if the high rollers are already submitting KYC though.
In any case, if their listing with binance will push thru, we don't know if betfury will now ask KYC from all their users.
Since the application now has changed, the process is now slow so for now, DEXs and other CEXs are more than enough.
Any licensed gambling sites could potentially ask out for some verification and mostly you could able to read up this on their terms and conditions which its a must on reading it out on the first place.

Usually they do ask out some KYC for some issues like exploits or other behavioral concern and as for whales then for sure they are really having those KYC
considering on how much money that they are putting into the platform which could really trigger out about money laundering or something in related.
hero member
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Well, as long as we can gamble at Betfury without KYC it will be fine for me! I hope that will not change just because of the listing on Binance!

I think even if the Betfury team decides to add KYC to the site, then the listing on Binance or any other centralized exchange will clearly not be the reason why the Betfury team will do it. By the way, although Betfury does not currently have mandatory verification for all users, you should always keep in mind that they reserve the right to require KYC at any time. At least it is mentioned in their rules.

That is true, as they have Curacao gaming license, they can ask for KYC whenever they deem it is necessary.
However, for now, just enjoy the opportunity that they are not yet asking KYC from their players.
But we don't know if the high rollers are already submitting KYC though.
In any case, if their listing with binance will push thru, we don't know if betfury will now ask KYC from all their users.
Since the application now has changed, the process is now slow so for now, DEXs and other CEXs are more than enough.
legendary
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Well, as long as we can gamble at Betfury without KYC it will be fine for me! I hope that will not change just because of the listing on Binance!

I think even if the Betfury team decides to add KYC to the site, then the listing on Binance or any other centralized exchange will clearly not be the reason why the Betfury team will do it. By the way, although Betfury does not currently have mandatory verification for all users, you should always keep in mind that they reserve the right to require KYC at any time. At least it is mentioned in their rules.
legendary
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Lately I got problems with the site using firefox. Sometimes the site does not load at all or some elements of the site do not work (like popups). The other day it workes again.
its interesting that the site did load today in an iframe but not directly. Anyone facing problems too?
So far I've tried to open Betfury from the mobile or desktop version, it's running normally, there's no problem. I don't think it's from Betfury, but from those of you who experience crashing problems with the browser, try using Google Chrome or a more efficient browser, maybe it will work fine on your browser compare with Firefox.

If there is a problem with the casino maybe Team or other users will report it but this is fine so there are no obstacles.

The right way for me is to replace the browser with Google Chrome.

Throughout my experience the Firefox browser gets into trouble more often than the Chrome browser so I also suggest you should use chrome
If you still want to use Firefox pay attention to the latest version who knows maybe you are still using the old version and clear browsing data
legendary
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Lately I got problems with the site using firefox. Sometimes the site does not load at all or some elements of the site do not work (like popups). The other day it workes again.
its interesting that the site did load today in an iframe but not directly. Anyone facing problems too?
So far I've tried to open Betfury from the mobile or desktop version, it's running normally, there's no problem. I don't think it's from Betfury, but from those of you who experience crashing problems with the browser, try using Google Chrome or a more efficient browser, maybe it will work fine on your browser compare with Firefox.

If there is a problem with the casino maybe Team or other users will report it but this is fine so there are no obstacles.

The right way for me is to replace the browser with Google Chrome.
sr. member
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Lately I got problems with the site using firefox. Sometimes the site does not load at all or some elements of the site do not work (like popups). The other day it workes again.
its interesting that the site did load today in an iframe but not directly. Anyone facing problems too?
As far as I am concerned, everything is fine. As usual, the homepage and other pages load perfectly. To verify whether the problem is from your end or the website, I suggest changing the internet browser or changing the device. It may simply be a matter of clearing your browser's cache and cookies.
jr. member
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Lately I got problems with the site using firefox. Sometimes the site does not load at all or some elements of the site do not work (like popups). The other day it workes again.
its interesting that the site did load today in an iframe but not directly. Anyone facing problems too?
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In fact if the casino continues to grow then KYC will be the main requirement this is an international rule and can't be denied
Indeed there are also those who do not need KYC but there will be certain limitations I mean it's more targeted at whale gamblers
Since 2021 I see there are at least 3 casinos that implement KYC even though before it was not needed just because they keep growing then apply it.

Maybe sadly enough, but KYC requirement is also coming for crypto casinos. As you mention, some of the big casinos have now a KYC requirement and in a couple of years it will probably be mandatory for the whole market. Personally I don't really mind it as I already play on fiat casinos who always full KYC.
one of the reasons that one of the casinos gave when I was required to KYC was to comply with the regulations of the license they have, so it is very possible that in the future all licensed casinos will require KYC even though they are crypto casinos and we must be ready to revealed our personal data.

But this licence thing will depend on the country it comes from. Seems like Curacao licence does not require kyc and I guess there always will be countries like that. But maybe if a casino is getting too big it needs a different licence to grow more.
legendary
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Dear users  Smiley We are very pleased that you are devoting so much time to listing theories. Binance does not charge a listing fee. It would be too easy  Roll Eyes Everything works in the format of general marketing, where projects are integrated into the exchange ecosystem. Consider the situation in which Binance is moving towards the legalization of all possible processes and cooperation with government agencies. If a few years ago they simply took promising projects for listing, now the situation has changed. The project itself must have many documents confirming transparency, progress and, of course, all kinds of licenses. We are working to maximize the potential for listing on Binance and other large centralized exchanges. Let's discuss ideas for promoting the Betfury platform. You are good at it, and we take into account  Wink
I do not know what Binance has told you, but as someone who has managed to list a token into binance before, I can tell you that they do charge an amount to get listed, depending on the situation. If there is a coin or a token that has insanely high volume, Binance doesn't charge anything and lists it right away so that they could make a ton of money from that volume, if it has nearly zero or have no social media presence then they do not charge anything and doesn't list, even delists the ones in there.

However, if there is a coin that has good volume, not great, and good social media love, not great then they do sit down on the table. Latest one cost 280 bitcoins to get listed for example during early days of pandemic so it was like spring 2020 or something when we crashed due to pandemic.
legendary
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In fact if the casino continues to grow then KYC will be the main requirement this is an international rule and can't be denied
Indeed there are also those who do not need KYC but there will be certain limitations I mean it's more targeted at whale gamblers
Since 2021 I see there are at least 3 casinos that implement KYC even though before it was not needed just because they keep growing then apply it.

Maybe sadly enough, but KYC requirement is also coming for crypto casinos. As you mention, some of the big casinos have now a KYC requirement and in a couple of years it will probably be mandatory for the whole market. Personally I don't really mind it as I already play on fiat casinos who always full KYC.
one of the reasons that one of the casinos gave when I was required to KYC was to comply with the regulations of the license they have, so it is very possible that in the future all licensed casinos will require KYC even though they are crypto casinos and we must be ready to revealed our personal data.
sr. member
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In fact if the casino continues to grow then KYC will be the main requirement this is an international rule and can't be denied
Indeed there are also those who do not need KYC but there will be certain limitations I mean it's more targeted at whale gamblers
Since 2021 I see there are at least 3 casinos that implement KYC even though before it was not needed just because they keep growing then apply it.

Maybe sadly enough, but KYC requirement is also coming for crypto casinos. As you mention, some of the big casinos have now a KYC requirement and in a couple of years it will probably be mandatory for the whole market. Personally I don't really mind it as I already play on fiat casinos who always require full KYC.
legendary
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Well, as long as we can gamble at Betfury without KYC it will be fine for me! I hope that will not change just because of the listing on Binance!

In fact if the casino continues to grow then KYC will be the main requirement this is an international rule and can't be denied
Indeed there are also those who do not need KYC but there will be certain limitations I mean it's more targeted at whale gamblers
Since 2021 I see there are at least 3 casinos that implement KYC even though before it was not needed just because they keep growing then apply it.
legendary
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Dear users  Smiley We are very pleased that you are devoting so much time to listing theories. Binance does not charge a listing fee. It would be too easy  Roll Eyes Everything works in the format of general marketing, where projects are integrated into the exchange ecosystem. Consider the situation in which Binance is moving towards the legalization of all possible processes and cooperation with government agencies. If a few years ago they simply took promising projects for listing, now the situation has changed. The project itself must have many documents confirming transparency, progress and, of course, all kinds of licenses. We are working to maximize the potential for listing on Binance and other large centralized exchanges. Let's discuss ideas for promoting the Betfury platform. You are good at it, and we take into account  Wink

Thanks for the reply here. We know you guys are working hard to get listed on Binance and other exchanges.


Being listed in Binance is also not a guarantee of a project's success. There were also many coins there that dropped a lot and some were even delisted. The most important thing is the project becoming a reality with a strong economy. BetFury's is also listed in some good exchanges and popular DEXs. Its trading volume is also high. There is nothing to worry about Binance. When the time comes, it'll come.

Yes they are listed on many exchanges and some are popular but to really get attention to the project, you need to get listed on Binance or the other big exchanges. It is by far not a guarantee for the success of a project but Binance is the nr 1 exchange by far so it is logic that everybody keeps talking about that.

I also think that Betfury teams work hard, but working hard is nothing if you don't have a "paper"! Welcome to the "regulations"! Many people wanted it, so now they have it! Just for a record, I started playing from the beginning, before license and all that...

I knew there was a catch with the Binance listing, now it's clear! "If a few years ago" hits the point, now Binance is too big to be "only crypto"! They need to follow the rules, and they are doing that! By the way, I stopped using them, I can pass KYC, but I just don't want to! There are alternatives!

Well, as long as we can gamble at Betfury without KYC it will be fine for me! I hope that will not change just because of the listing on Binance!
sr. member
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Dear users  Smiley We are very pleased that you are devoting so much time to listing theories. Binance does not charge a listing fee. It would be too easy  Roll Eyes Everything works in the format of general marketing, where projects are integrated into the exchange ecosystem. Consider the situation in which Binance is moving towards the legalization of all possible processes and cooperation with government agencies. If a few years ago they simply took promising projects for listing, now the situation has changed. The project itself must have many documents confirming transparency, progress and, of course, all kinds of licenses. We are working to maximize the potential for listing on Binance and other large centralized exchanges. Let's discuss ideas for promoting the Betfury platform. You are good at it, and we take into account  Wink

Thanks for the reply here. We know you guys are working hard to get listed on Binance and other exchanges.


Being listed in Binance is also not a guarantee of a project's success. There were also many coins there that dropped a lot and some were even delisted. The most important thing is the project becoming a reality with a strong economy. BetFury's is also listed in some good exchanges and popular DEXs. Its trading volume is also high. There is nothing to worry about Binance. When the time comes, it'll come.

Yes they are listed on many exchanges and some are popular but to really get attention to the project, you need to get listed on Binance or the other big exchanges. It is by far not a guarantee for the success of a project but Binance is the nr 1 exchange by far so it is logic that everybody keeps talking about that.
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As far as I know, one of their plans is to get listed in Binance.
However, there may be some setbacks that we don't know about.
But they are already heavily using BSC network in their casino.
Maybe the trading volume right now is not enough to make it in Binance.
But they are continuously working on their popularity as they come up with these high-reward events.
Listing will just come naturally once their token is attracting great interest in the community.

The Betfury reps already explain here the reason why they can't list on Binance right now. Binance listing fee is very expensive while they can use the amount for marketing and partnership that will give Betfury casino an exposure rather than list on Binance that will cause only a temporary hype. Betfury has a lot of partnership on different DEX that provides liquidity and farming for all BFG token holders. BFG volume is already good to be listed on Binance, The only problem was the fee is too high while they can use it to many marketing activities. Maybe in the future BFG will surely listed there.
Dear users  Smiley We are very pleased that you are devoting so much time to listing theories. Binance does not charge a listing fee. It would be too easy  Roll Eyes Everything works in the format of general marketing, where projects are integrated into the exchange ecosystem. Consider the situation in which Binance is moving towards the legalization of all possible processes and cooperation with government agencies. If a few years ago they simply took promising projects for listing, now the situation has changed. The project itself must have many documents confirming transparency, progress and, of course, all kinds of licenses. We are working to maximize the potential for listing on Binance and other large centralized exchanges. Let's discuss ideas for promoting the Betfury platform. You are good at it, and we take into account  Wink
hero member
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The Betfury reps already explain here the reason why they can't list on Binance right now. Binance listing fee is very expensive while they can use the amount for marketing and partnership that will give Betfury casino an exposure rather than list on Binance that will cause only a temporary hype.

The two options are important in either way, listing on Binance could be of more advantage than if not but I don't see any negative impact on the hype it may encounter on Binance, this are opportunities that places them on a good edge, believe me so many people accept and go with Binance listings than the ones not, marketing is important on it own but i think this can be achieved as well on Binance, if they need more result then they should put in more resource to fasten it.
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Being listed in Binance is also not a guarantee of a project's success. There were also many coins there that dropped a lot and some were even delisted. The most important thing is the project becoming a reality with a strong economy. BetFury's is also listed in some good exchanges and popular DEXs. Its trading volume is also high. There is nothing to worry about Binance. When the time comes, it'll come.

Correct, This is exactly what the Betfury management considered that's why they are hesitant to pursue Binance listing even though they have the budget to do it considering they have a regular giveaway with a huge amount of money sufficient for Binance listing. Listing on Binance is easy if the project got a fund but maintaining the token to be listed there with a good trading volume is much harder than what investors do not think when they are asking for Binance listing.

i like the approach of Betfury that they are partnering on different blockchain and list the token on its respective DEX to get trading volume from different exchange users.
hero member
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As far as I know, one of their plans is to get listed in Binance.
However, there may be some setbacks that we don't know about.
But they are already heavily using BSC network in their casino.
Maybe the trading volume right now is not enough to make it in Binance.
But they are continuously working on their popularity as they come up with these high-reward events.
Listing will just come naturally once their token is attracting great interest in the community.

The Betfury reps already explain here the reason why they can't list on Binance right now. Binance listing fee is very expensive while they can use the amount for marketing and partnership that will give Betfury casino an exposure rather than list on Binance that will cause only a temporary hype. Betfury has a lot of partnership on different DEX that provides liquidity and farming for all BFG token holders. BFG volume is already good to be listed on Binance, The only problem was the fee is too high while they can use it to many marketing activities. Maybe in the future BFG will surely listed there.

Being listed in Binance is also not a guarantee of a project's success. There were also many coins there that dropped a lot and some were even delisted. The most important thing is the project becoming a reality with a strong economy. BetFury's is also listed in some good exchanges and popular DEXs. Its trading volume is also high. There is nothing to worry about Binance. When the time comes, it'll come.
legendary
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Betfury has daily/weekly competitions, and they could use it to encourage users to wager more BFG tokens, although I doubt this decision would be effective. I mean, a lot of users probably will not want to take the risk of wagering on BFG tokens because there is a high probability that all BFG tokens can be lost due to house edge and, as a result, the opportunity to earn daily dividends would be lost as well.
If we look at some of the players here, how many players here they gamble with bfg tokens, if we take a look at them, we will see that there are a lot of posting multiple stories, but from there we can see that  Playing with and there was a huge loss. In the beginning I played with my tokens. I went on time but fortunately I lost very little here.
Well, gambling is a null end game anyway, so you should be aware of that fact that you will end up losing a ton of money in the long run. I know that there isn't much to discuss about the difference between BFG and any other coin/token that you gamble with. You will always end up losing money in the long run because of the house edge.

However, there are benefits of gambling with BFG and that is the difference maker for this casino. Plus, you do not have to only gamble with it, you could stake it and earn money from it as well, and you could earn it for free as well. These all combined makes sure that people prefer BFG here, and that's a good thing for investors of it.
Of course, it is worth agreeing that in the long term, gambling still leads to losses, which most players simply consider to be a kind of payment for the pleasure of playing.

But I wonder if it is possible to play with the help of BFG tokens in such a way as to remain in a breakeven state. And if staking these tokens compensates for your costs?
Or all the same, it must be huge amounts of BFG, which no one really has. Well, of course, if you exclude the BFG whales. Smiley

Well the rakeback of BFG tokens is very small and it's just a small percentage of your bets so its impossible to use it cover your loses except on games that has high probability win rate like dice games since it has a settings to increase win rate but still its very hard to recover losses by the rakeback alone.

Personally the BFG tokens I'm earning via rakeback is almost negligible if I consider the tokens I loss in the process. Farming it via staking is more profitable rather than earning it through gambling.

Rakeback is not supposed to make you cover your losses. If that was the purpose, it would be easier and less complicated for the sportsbook or gambling site to pay you to gamble in the site hehe. Tokens as incentives for using the site are a good way to distribute them for their DAO, however.

Also, as a Defi protocol, I reckon it would also be good for the site to implement a locking mechanism for token holders to earn part of the site's revenue from fees collected, paid in which currencies the fees were paid. This appears to be the next trend for Defi where the DAO earns by deploying delta neutral strategies using the assets in their treasury and pay some of the earnings to the stakers. Umami has began doing this. I might write an investment thesis for this for the altcoin subforum.
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