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The thing is you can only say that because you and everyone here spend there time posting here that’s why you can conclude that forum is the best for promotion in your perspective as well for me but the casino owner doesn’t spend much time here so they don’t know how exactly good the forum unless they can see the result by themselves while the social media is proven working as a good source for marketing promotion by many companies. This is the reason why casino owner is very hard to convince to choose here instead the social media.

we all know that many platforms out there are more suitable for promoting gambling sites, but let's see on the bitcointalk forum there are many active people and the hallmark of the bitcointalk forum is that it often displays gambling site advertisements, in my personal opinion it is very feasible if they prioritize the forum bitcointalk as their main marketing

The knowledge of a gambling site creator and the knowledge of a layman are not the same. They always think something more advanced than what we think. They try to choose the best platforms for marketing.  And they don't treat this forum as the only good marketing platform. and they spend money on the better place

There are many who are in charge of doing great marketing, and for this type of casino it does not cost them much to allocate money to those expenses that are an investment, but I do not know, many of us agree with what you say, but casino owners can think differently.

It is better to spend good money on everything with a very strong marketing campaign that results are seen in a short time than to do things to save a few dollars and the community is not satisfied, the casino has to see that.

Using the bankroll of a casino that should be normally there to support any winners, and basically a guarantee of sorts that you could play here, for marketing or any other thing to grow is not really a great idea. I also do not think that casinos should be doing it themselves at all, it sounds like a lot of work and with so much they have to deal with, I do not think that it would be a smart way to handle. Best thing is to focus on what you are doing and leave the marketing to an agency of sort, that way that agency would be able to make you more famous while you focus on the casino part of the deal. Not a bad idea at all.

I would say that as a casino you should have some fiat currency or stablecoins at least in your hands anyway. If you don't, then there needs to be a situation where you need to fix that asap. I personally believe that the best thing to do here would be making sure that we do not end up with a bad result, it is not the greatest thing ever to have no stablecoins, but if casino has it then that's a great way to distribute.

What can be done is free bets, do that with good amount of money to a lot of people and they are going to come in here and gamble, if they do that then we are going to end up with a big profit as well. That's the key to success for a casino, pay them with real money, not a token you just created.

Those casino failed with this kind of feature are those who has insufficient funds to continue the operation with minimal profit. This is the reason why big casino company don’t want token because they are backed already by private investors and having there token will just make there business more complicated because they need to reward those token holders in exchange for there investment in tokens.

Only few casino manage to survive on this business and some of them choose to exit after getting funds on initial token sale rather than continuing the casino with fixed monthly expenses without assurance that they will get more customers.

We've seen many casinos got fail because sell both together, something must be sacrificed between them. but, as I know, several casinos do it together with success, like giving free the token for purposes try the casino, but of course, they will make dump a price but besides that, the casino will be crowded. If can't do that, choose one.

In somehow it's true but we can't remove the fact that whales are whales, they can still do things that they will be wanting but I like your point, it would be more pressure to them if they will do it against the full power of the community, they can't just outrun the influence of real investors and supporters who are willing to play against them.

As long as the team is doing their part in terms of keeping the ecosystem alive and they are doing business for the gamblers, the chance
remain positive for BFG.

Low volume exchanges are a way to die actually. Because it means that in the long run you are going to be upset with the results. Low volume equals to low liquidity, and low liquidity means more manipulation. So, someone with a bit of money could come in and destroy the whole token.

We wouldn't want that, it would be smarter to just pick a big one and go with that, or at the very least, stay with the swaps like pancake so that you would have a lot more people focusing it on just one place. That way it would be hard to manipulate it, not impossible but at the very least they would have to go against the full power of betfury community and that’s something they rather wouldn't do.

I couldn't agree more with you, if low volume exchanges are what you are looking for, it will be a total failure, and it would be a shame because many years ago a project that was only one currency failed for these simple reasons:

1.-They did not put the currency in an Exchange 1A.
2.-They did not pay attention to the community.

That was enough for all the investors to not support their project anymore, they left, they made a big Dump and took the coin from 20USD to almost 2USD and currently it is less than 1usd, it was something really sad, I hope and I hope you can listen to the community and they can try to put the token in a good exchange, I think the casino has a way to do it, they cannot say NO to success, and for me so far the casino has been very successful and they have done things well, of course until now, I think it's time to jump into something much better.

Well, the truth is that I have never used the BSC chain, but I imagine that it is very fast, recently I used the normal chain of the Bitcoin network and the transfer lasted 4 hours, which seemed a bit slow to me, I am not used to it lasting so much, but really when I use the ERC-20 network it is because I really need to do something urgently, because it seems to me that the fees are very high, and currently they are not so high, but about 1 year ago, year and means that I needed to make a transfer of ERC-20 to Binance, that was a very exaggerated fee, I did not find a way to do it with less money, I did the same way, but I try to avoid that ERC-20 chain, the Betfury tokens or any currency that you have in Betfury, I consider that it is the normal rate that they should charge, they cannot assume such a high fee.

I agree with you, and I think most other players also don't use ETH and erc-20 tokens for gambling. The problem is that the fee in the ETH network is too unpredictable, given that it might be either 5 gwei or 1000+ gwei throughout the day. By the way, I just now noticed that Betfury sets 0.005 ETH(~$9) as the ETH withdrawal fee, while the withdrawal fee for erc-20 tokens is $3.2. As for me, this is a strange decision by the Betfury team as the withdrawal fee for ETH is clearly overstated, while the withdrawal fee for erc-20 tokens is understated.

I also always use slow withdrawal when I move BTC! I don't mind waiting... if I wish faster I simply go with BSC! Tron was the great alternative... but when the BSC chain appeared it was even better! I always point out how "fast and cheap" is important for people who really like to gamble (of course, not only for that...) and move funds from casinos to wallets, or between casinos! I decided to not use Ethereum, and all ETH tokens, ever again because of the high fees from the last years...

I wrote that staking rewards should be increased for all. And for newbies to make promo to attract their attention. Staking rewards will be the same for everyone after the end of the promo.

about the part of them looking like they've run out of ideas. this was already expected to happen, we are talking about a casino, even if they have an altcoin and some features that other casinos don't have they are still a casino that has to follow other casinos, they will not offer more things than other casinos for a long time time because it could reduce their profit, they will offer the same things other casinos are offering. I hope people aren't buying BFG thinking that every year the price will go up a lot because the casino every year will have a lot of customers, with so many casinos popping up every day, the competition is tougher every day, and people are more worried about being in the casinos that have the biggest bonus and the biggest benefits in the VIP accounts, and if BetFury.io doesn't have many customers, then the BFG could suffer a price drop not to mention that the BFG can also be affected if bitcoin drops too much.


Getting a lot of customers to use the casino will be the most complicated and difficult part every day because of the high competition that this online casino market is facing every day, every day new casinos are appearing and in my opinion this market is becoming saturated, and another thing is that BFG is not listed on many exchanges which means that it is not yet known what the real price will be, when an altcoin is listed on many exchanges we can see its real price

I always choose the slow withdrawal as I don't mind if it arrives in 2h or 24h. But since they introduced the BSC chain to withdraw BTC and ETH, I always use this. Fees are a lot lower and the transactions go a lot faster, so it is a win/win!

Not recommended for people who are in rush since for sure it will take 24 hours or more before you can receive the amount you transact and what worse is sometimes you feel stress and seek for accelerators which you believe to help your transaction to fasten up. Better to use always what network recommends since this is more the safest and fastest way for us to have smooth transaction on timely manner.

I experienced worst than that on when choosing the slow option on transaction speed. It can took more than 24hrs even if the network is not congested so I definitely don’t recommend that option even in the future because the confirmation for that fee is very slow than normal and you might be in stress if you really need that money while its still stuck on pending status.

BSC chain Bitcoin is less hassle compared to native chain if you are betting using Bitcoin because the normal fee on Bitcoin withdrawal is a bit high than normal fee on electrum wallet.

This is just one of the unpleasant properties of the blockchain - when it is difficult to understand how long it will take to confirm a transaction. 
Of course, you always want to save money by paying as little commission as possible, but waiting for "24 hours" is also unpleasant.  And it also happens that a small commission set manually will be taken from you at all, and the transaction will not be confirmed.  I remember once in my Ethereum blockchain on a smart contract a transaction with a commission of ~$55 did not go through. 
 It was very disgusting and insulting to lose this money. 

But I will not advise you to set the average or high level of payment for the transaction.  Here everyone decides for himself

Just a caution to every player not to withdraw BTC using the native chain for now. Even though I chose the slow option which deducts BTC0.000075 withdrawal fee, I still expected it to be done within the next two hours because I've seen blocks confirmed with fee as low as 2 sats/vbyte and not 23 hours. I later found out that they send by batch and that's probably the main reason why it took that long.

I know it says 'within 24 hours' for slow withdrawal but I still think it's poor service given the fact that the network isn't that congested.