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Quote from: pfhismgrpg on February 27, 2022, 11:41:44 AM

I opened an account a few days ago and made about $2000 profit, and then after withdrawing got some really weird messages asking for KYC docs.

I am not doing anything suspicious - just betting on a few football matches that seem like they are profitable, and I am betting from Ireland where it is legal.

Has anyone experienced this before - really don't want to have to give my personal details across to a gambling company!!

Did you carefully read the ToS before registering on the platform? There is a rule that they reserve the right to ask KYC at any time, and I'm assuming they asked KYC from you because of a rollover requirement. This means that each user must wager at least 3 times the deposit (for sports betting), and only after that, the withdrawal may be approved. Anyway, if you didn't break the rules, you should not have any problems with KYC because Betfury can be trusted.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on February 28, 2022, 10:43:08 AM

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If your account is an old account that often deposits various amounts of money, the casino will not suspect you. But he just created an account a few days ago then deposited $2,000. If I were the owner or admin of that site, I would check the account often because I don't want anything wrong to happen to my site. Indeed, money laundering is an iterative process of depositing and withdrawing a certain amount of money. We know that the money laundering process is not like that because those who do money laundering will use various methods so that their plans can work well.

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Quote from: ipanks on February 28, 2022, 12:06:03 AM

Quote from: pfhismgrpg on February 27, 2022, 06:39:22 PM

do you think the KYC checks are mainly due to money laundering checks. I assume depositing/withdrawaing/betting smaller amounts wouldn't alert these money laundering checks?

What do you think?

If you deposit a large amount of money (we assume that $2000 is a very large amount of money to gamble on), it will make gambling sites suspicious. Besides that, your account is only a few days old but you have already deposited a large amount of money. It is normal for the gambling site to suddenly ask and ask you to complete KYC to find out where your funds are coming from.

If the deposit is a small amount, even if it comes from money laundering, I don't think it will be okay and probably won't be a concern for gambling sites because they want to know who the players are using big money in gambling.

That's not how it works and you definitely didn't know what’s the casino protocol for checking money laundering activity, First of all 2000$ is not a very huge amoun to be suspected that you are laundering even if your account is new. Money laundering is a repetitive process of depositing and withdrawing fixed amount of money without commiting any bets or just few bets or deposit huge amount and withdraw it quickly at one go that’s why some casino requires wagering requirements for all the deposit money before they can withdraw.

Typically money launderer do this same pattern multiple times using different account which the casino can track by tracking there IP or by viewing there account activity.

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Quote from: zuzie on February 27, 2022, 09:37:58 AM

Quote from: macson on February 27, 2022, 09:27:00 AM

this is really good for those who use a VPN to play on betfury, i see many gambling players who come from countries that prohibit gambling. and regarding multi-accounts, it's best if players who use that trick are banned, because it can disrupt the business.

VPN is usually used to cheat bonuses and promotions there are also those who use it to access the game because some games are not available in several countries
In this case Betfury understands it as long as it does not violate the rules moreover there is a risk of frozen if caught, so far we haven't seen reports like this.

That is the key problem with most casinos. They really need to figure out a way to stop the bots without banning VPN. I mean I have been using VPN for as long as I can remember, did paid ones for years, free ones too, and now doing Opera one and I have been very happy with it.

There are some casinos, even most casinos that do not allow you to do something like that and I do not get why I have to really follow their rule just because they are afraid of the bots that would attack them. This is THEIR problem and not mine, they are bothering how I gamble just because of other people and that annoys me. It is not about just here, it is about everywhere else, plenty of casinos do this.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 27, 2022, 09:26:48 PM

Quote from: pfhismgrpg on February 27, 2022, 06:39:22 PM

do you think the KYC checks are mainly due to money laundering checks. I assume depositing/withdrawaing/betting smaller amounts wouldn't alert these money laundering checks?

What do you think?

Not only for money laundering, but other such breaking rules (e.g. using VPN, multi accounts etc).
It's really depends on their internal team, how they can suspect the funds is belong to money laundering or high illicit sources. But most of the case, small amount wouldn't get alert since casino only focus on the big amount only.

Betfury representative could address and explain this issue to make him know why he got asked to submit KYC.

In some cases KYC is applied in relation to each country's regulations or licenses to avoid some crimes. In crypto casino money laundering is not only focused on the amount but also on the behavior of the transaction for example deposit $100 then bet $10 and then request a withdrawal, it will be suspected of money laundering. this case often happens on some sites even with a balance under $100

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Quote from: pfhismgrpg on February 27, 2022, 06:39:22 PM

do you think the KYC checks are mainly due to money laundering checks. I assume depositing/withdrawaing/betting smaller amounts wouldn't alert these money laundering checks?

What do you think?

If you deposit a large amount of money (we assume that $2000 is a very large amount of money to gamble on), it will make gambling sites suspicious. Besides that, your account is only a few days old but you have already deposited a large amount of money. It is normal for the gambling site to suddenly ask and ask you to complete KYC to find out where your funds are coming from.

If the deposit is a small amount, even if it comes from money laundering, I don't think it will be okay and probably won't be a concern for gambling sites because they want to know who the players are using big money in gambling.

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Quote from: pfhismgrpg on February 27, 2022, 06:39:22 PM

do you think the KYC checks are mainly due to money laundering checks. I assume depositing/withdrawaing/betting smaller amounts wouldn't alert these money laundering checks?

What do you think?

Not only for money laundering, but other such breaking rules (e.g. using VPN, multi accounts etc).
It's really depends on their internal team, how they can suspect the funds is belong to money laundering or high illicit sources. But most of the case, small amount wouldn't get alert since casino only focus on the big amount only.

Betfury representative could address and explain this issue to make him know why he got asked to submit KYC.

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do you think the KYC checks are mainly due to money laundering checks. I assume depositing/withdrawaing/betting smaller amounts wouldn't alert these money laundering checks?

What do you think?

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Quote from: babygun on February 27, 2022, 05:07:22 PM

Quote from: pfhismgrpg on February 27, 2022, 11:41:44 AM

I opened an account a few days ago and made about $2000 profit, and then after withdrawing got some really weird messages asking for KYC docs.

I am not doing anything suspicious - just betting on a few football matches that seem like they are profitable, and I am betting from Ireland where it is legal.

Has anyone experienced this before - really don't want to have to give my personal details across to a gambling company!!
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I only withdrawed a lot lower amounts than you so they didn't ask for my KYC but as the support agent has stated they always have the right to ask it. This is not only valid for Betfury but for all major crypto casino sites.
They are legit so I wouldn't worry to do KYC on Betfury.

he is a new player and he is asking to withdraw quite a handsome amount. it may indeed trigger from the betfury side to ask kyc. as a licensed casino, they have their terms & conditions about this, read item 5.15 of their terms and conditions , as they can do random checks. also i hope you are not below 18 as they can freeze your funds.

btw, @pfhismgrpg, have you read their terms before sending money to betfury? it is a licensed casino so no surprise that they will ask kyc if they think something unusual to the account. you should have withdrawn small amount and not one-time withdrawal of big amount. because i think, that triggers their system.

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Quote from: pfhismgrpg on February 27, 2022, 11:41:44 AM

I opened an account a few days ago and made about $2000 profit, and then after withdrawing got some really weird messages asking for KYC docs.

I am not doing anything suspicious - just betting on a few football matches that seem like they are profitable, and I am betting from Ireland where it is legal.

Has anyone experienced this before - really don't want to have to give my personal details across to a gambling company!!

I only withdrawed a lot lower amounts than you so they didn't ask for my KYC but as the support agent has stated they always have the right to ask it. This is not only valid for Betfury but for all major crypto casino sites.
They are legit so I wouldn't worry to do KYC on Betfury.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on February 27, 2022, 09:33:23 AM

Quote from: BetFury.io on February 27, 2022, 08:42:43 AM

~ Then exchanges like Binance and Pancake will be able to consider our application.

Wait, something doesn't sound right. What do you mean application for Pancakeswap? Are you referring to exchange listing or the core farm? The latter requires review from PCS team before BFG is added but you need not do anything for the former except add liquidity to the pool. How do you expect them to consider your application (for a core farm) when you have little liquidity there?

The Betfury team is interested in official listing and adding BFG token to the whitelist. To do this, there must be a good trading volume. At the moment we are doing our best to let more people know about our token and its utility. Each loyal user can bring us closer to listing on top exchanges. You just need to use the BFG opportunities and make trades. We do our best to bring BFG to the official listings with marketing support. Our team have never refused from listing on Binance and never won’t do it.

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Quote from: pfhismgrpg on February 27, 2022, 11:41:44 AM

I opened an account a few days ago and made about $2000 profit, and then after withdrawing got some really weird messages asking for KYC docs.

I am not doing anything suspicious - just betting on a few football matches that seem like they are profitable, and I am betting from Ireland where it is legal.

Has anyone experienced this before - really don't want to have to give my personal details across to a gambling company!!

In itself, reporting about KYC is not unusual, more and more sites are using it and are also being imposed this will from the licensor. It's just a shame that some sites turn it into a circus, and continue to request documents and carry out certain checks. When exactly did you receive a message about the KYC and have you already submitted these documents to the Betfury site? If you have submitted the documents, we can only make a judgment about the situation, because asking for KYC by Betfury is not something strange.

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I opened an account a few days ago and made about $2000 profit, and then after withdrawing got some really weird messages asking for KYC docs.

I am not doing anything suspicious - just betting on a few football matches that seem like they are profitable, and I am betting from Ireland where it is legal.

Has anyone experienced this before - really don't want to have to give my personal details across to a gambling company!!

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Quote from: macson on February 27, 2022, 09:27:00 AM

this is really good for those who use a VPN to play on betfury, i see many gambling players who come from countries that prohibit gambling. and regarding multi-accounts, it's best if players who use that trick are banned, because it can disrupt the business.

VPN is usually used to cheat bonuses and promotions there are also those who use it to access the game because some games are not available in several countries
In this case Betfury understands it as long as it does not violate the rules moreover there is a risk of frozen if caught, so far we haven't seen reports like this.

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Quote from: BetFury.io on February 27, 2022, 08:42:43 AM

~ Then exchanges like Binance and Pancake will be able to consider our application.

Wait, something doesn't sound right. What do you mean application for Pancakeswap? Are you referring to exchange listing or the core farm? The latter requires review from PCS team before BFG is added but you need not do anything for the former except add liquidity to the pool. How do you expect them to consider your application (for a core farm) when you have little liquidity there?

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Quote from: BetFury.io on February 27, 2022, 06:26:53 AM

Quote from: _BlackStar on February 24, 2022, 02:08:09 PM

Quote from: $crypto$ on February 23, 2022, 04:08:36 PM

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We don't ban VPNs using as long as it does not violate the rules. Multi-accounts and any other similar manipulations are prohibited.

this is really good for those who use a VPN to play on betfury, i see many gambling players who come from countries that prohibit gambling. and regarding multi-accounts, it's best if players who use that trick are banned, because it can disrupt the business.

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Quote from: BetFury.io on February 27, 2022, 08:42:43 AM

Less than a year has passed since the listing of the BFG token. During this time, the token can be traded on 7+ platforms, stored on various safe wallets, information about it can be tracked on different reviewers. It's not fair to say we haven't progressed. We do our best to attract investors and provide good trading volumes. Then exchanges like Binance and Pancake will be able to consider our application.

To be honest we don't doubt the performance of the Betfury team, we always follow every update every quarter is always a new one in accordance with the roadmap
But for exchanges it is not satisfactory on the one hand we understand all it need a process but some BFG holders can't wait they don't know the situation and condition

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Quote from: dwyane36 on February 26, 2022, 06:43:24 PM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on February 26, 2022, 05:33:07 AM

More precisely in the top 600 as we can see Betfury team continues to add new exchanges which affects the volume and market cap of BFG
Personally I don't think we'll ever see BFG in the top 100-200 if it's not listed on Binance or other top 10 exchanges so I'm pretty sure the final target of the Betfury team is Binance , this opportunity is open because Betfury is one of the supporters of the BSC project.

If Betfury has a plan to get into the top 100, then the BFG token should be worth at least 30 cents. I know it's difficult, but the top 100 might be quite an achievable goal for the Betfury team. By the way, it is also worth noting that listing on major exchanges, including Binance, was already discussed in this thread last summer. Unfortunately, it seems the Betfury team has not made any progress in this direction yet.

Less than a year has passed since the listing of the BFG token. During this time, the token can be traded on 7+ platforms, stored on various safe wallets, information about it can be tracked on different reviewers. It's not fair to say we haven't progressed. We do our best to attract investors and provide good trading volumes. Then exchanges like Binance and Pancake will be able to consider our application.

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Quote from: _BlackStar on February 24, 2022, 02:08:09 PM

Quote from: $crypto$ on February 23, 2022, 04:08:36 PM

If Betfury prohibits its users from using a VPN then it gets abused but I also really don't know whether it is allowed or not what is clear I see many countries that are blacklisted but for sure using a VPN without Betfury's permission then it is very dangerous everyone has In this case, Betfury certainly has its own provisions regarding this matter.

Looking at the FAQ I didn't find anything about using a VPN under it, well maybe VPNs are allowed.

I've also carefully read the TOS of this casino and nothing seems to mention the issue of using VPNs ^{[prohibited or allowed].} I get a few reasons about how casino users can be banned and their account frozen when admin discover cheating but excluding those using VPN.

I haven't gotten an answer to that question yet, so while I don't think the use of a VPN is allowed if it's used to create multiple account on the site. Having two or more account in a casino using a VPN to change IP then that is a good reason to say that they have violated the rules unless the user inform the admin about it. I think it makes sense to find an answer whether VPNs are allowed.

We don't ban VPNs using as long as it does not violate the rules. Multi-accounts and any other similar manipulations are prohibited.

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