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Quote from: Webetcoins on March 01, 2022, 03:14:09 PM

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We will never know because the casino will never say how to check someone's account or what will make them block one account. We can only assume and therefore, it's better not to risk something that can be fatal to our account because it will be difficult for us later.

Casinos don't want to get involved with anything illegal and they always make sure that everything is under their control. Money laundering, hacking and other illegal stuff is something that casinos don't want. It is the casino's responsibility and we gamblers not to do anything suspicious.

Unfortunately, there are so many scammers and thieves who want to appropriate your money that you just have to be very careful. Including fraudulent gambling sites also appear from time to time. And I’m not talking about fakes on the Internet at all, there are millions of them, especially now, when a military operation is underway in Europe. They try to deceive and scare you. And in a panic state, a person often does complete stupidity. I think this is the calculation. For example, a person sells his cryptocurrency for a cheap price at an ultra-low rate.
We all can only hope that there are still an order of magnitude more honest people than scammers. And this gives at least some hope for the normal development of civilization.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on February 25, 2022, 11:46:35 AM

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Agreed, Betfury is the first Casino that successfully introduced there own token with a utility on there Casino.They started the Casino token trend which leads to many Casino copy there method. I really believe that Betfury can beat other top competitors Casino since they are continuously innovating there Casino. This campaign might be permanent since they really want to established markets here in the forum.

how you sure might be permanent? because when I look at the past there is a casino where running a long campaign for i.e. over 3 years having trouble too and stoping the campaign. this means nothing is eternal, people must prepare it even though they have improved for the next global competition, what's more here, the top casino has even reached marketing to the top sports league like premier league and La Liga. they should thinking to compete it also.

I am 100% sure about the fact that there were casinos before and betfury is not the only one. I remember eosbet or something like that started back in the day, changed their name to earnbet or something and they were actually quite horrible so they just got destroyed and nobody talks about them anymore. We could say about betfury "they are the first one to do it among the biggest casinos and still stay ahead" and that’s it.

There were places that did it before them but failed, there are some small places that did before and still going on strong but they are tiny, so there is no place that did it before betfury, became bigger than betfury and still going on strong right now. All three never happened, that’s true, but each of them happened individually.

Well, it is something very useful for some casinos, of course they cannot be copied 100% from Betfury, because the conditions that are currently being presented in the world are very different from those of the launch of the BFG token, now we have to take into account that Betfury introduced a token in the market, which did not occur as a massive dump as many believed, before that they did something very smart which is the burning of tokens and apart from those hodlers who had more BFG they could obtain returns or passive income and that is what It appeals to many, even Non-Gamers, it is something similar to what Freebitco.in offers from the beginning with its option to have each account as a wallet for each client.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on March 01, 2022, 05:33:27 PM

it is indeed great to hear that they are still pushing thru the binance listing. maybe this is the reason why they are also holding sig campaign again to attract more players as well as possible traders of their token. preparation is the key to cover those plans. because afaik, binance is only accepting donations as part of listing as they are giving it also to their charity. and if they see that the token has good following already, they may list it with no prob.
as long as the betfury team is actively innovating their services, their patrons will stay on their site.

It would be a bad decision to not pursue listing the token on Binance. It is the biggest exchange with the highest trading volume, so a lot of projects would love to get a listing on it. Lets give the team some time to prepare everything, but the more buzz there is around Betfury, the better their chances to get listed.

Every project has it in its roadmap and so far Betfury is doing good, every step is counted towards the big goal and that is getting listed on Binance and getting in the top 100 of the market it's cumulative as long as they keep doing what they're doing they will eventually land there, for me, Betfury is already in the top 5 in Crypto casino soon they will lord it over.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on March 01, 2022, 05:33:27 PM

it is indeed great to hear that they are still pushing thru the binance listing. maybe this is the reason why they are also holding sig campaign again to attract more players as well as possible traders of their token. preparation is the key to cover those plans. because afaik, binance is only accepting donations as part of listing as they are giving it also to their charity. and if they see that the token has good following already, they may list it with no prob.
as long as the betfury team is actively innovating their services, their patrons will stay on their site.

It would be a bad decision to not pursue listing the token on Binance. It is the biggest exchange with the highest trading volume, so a lot of projects would love to get a listing on it. Lets give the team some time to prepare everything, but the more buzz there is around Betfury, the better their chances to get listed.

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~ Then exchanges like Binance and Pancake will be able to consider our application.

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The Betfury team is interested in official listing and adding BFG token to the whitelist. To do this, there must be a good trading volume. At the moment we are doing our best to let more people know about our token and its utility. Each loyal user can bring us closer to listing on top exchanges. You just need to use the BFG opportunities and make trades. We do our best to bring BFG to the official listings with marketing support. Our team have never refused from listing on Binance and never won’t do it.

happy to hear that the betfury team's next target is listing on Binance. imo BFG token prices are currently very stable, I'm sure there are many traders out there who can't wait for BFG to be listed on Binance, BFG prices will definitely fluctuate and that makes the attraction of BFG even stronger.

it is indeed great to hear that they are still pushing thru the binance listing. maybe this is the reason why they are also holding sig campaign again to attract more players as well as possible traders of their token. preparation is the key to cover those plans. because afaik, binance is only accepting donations as part of listing as they are giving it also to their charity. and if they see that the token has good following already, they may list it with no prob.
as long as the betfury team is actively innovating their services, their patrons will stay on their site.

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Quote from: pfhismgrpg on February 27, 2022, 10:41:44 AM

I opened an account a few days ago and made about $2000 profit, and then after withdrawing got some really weird messages asking for KYC docs.

I am not doing anything suspicious - just betting on a few football matches that seem like they are profitable, and I am betting from Ireland where it is legal.

Has anyone experienced this before - really don't want to have to give my personal details across to a gambling company!!

Did you carefully read the ToS before registering on the platform? There is a rule that they reserve the right to ask KYC at any time, and I'm assuming they asked KYC from you because of a rollover requirement. This means that each user must wager at least 3 times the deposit (for sports betting), and only after that, the withdrawal may be approved. Anyway, if you didn't break the rules, you should not have any problems with KYC because Betfury can be trusted.

In most cases, you wont really able to push through withdrawal if you havent able to wager up your deposit on that particular requirement because it would show up some warning or alerts that you needed to do that.

In his case, he do able to make out some withdrawal and later on it do ask out some KYC which do really sucks because some of known popular gambling sites on this market doesnt really have
any requirement even if you do withdraw much more bigger amounts or without having those strings attached.

Therefore, theres something wrong with the user and if there's none then there might be some security trigger or some sort.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on March 01, 2022, 03:14:09 PM

Quote from: ipanks on March 01, 2022, 01:57:58 AM

If your account is an old account that often deposits various amounts of money, the casino will not suspect you. But he just created an account a few days ago then deposited $2,000. If I were the owner or admin of that site, I would check the account often because I don't want anything wrong to happen to my site. Indeed, money laundering is an iterative process of depositing and withdrawing a certain amount of money. We know that the money laundering process is not like that because those who do money laundering will use various methods so that their plans can work well.

I would guess that it must be also related to where the money came from. I am not sure if they check that or not, but I always assumed that if the money came from a known binance wallet, or coinbase wallet or somewhere trustworthy with KYC like that, then withdrawn to somewhere like that again. Then the casinos would feel fine about it, or at least probably would feel fine if they knew and check it. But, if it comes from private wallet, and goes to private wallet then casinos may end up not feeling so sure about it as well.

Money laundering in casinos is a big risk. If it wasn't, all those people who steal millions of dollars in hacks, could simply send it to betfury, then withdraw to another account and nobody would know where the money went. Betfury and every other casino is responsible for keeping that away from their business.

Money laundering is becoming more and more common in the world unfortunately. If a casino is crypto-only, it is extremely difficult to find out and you can wonder to what extent there would then be money laundering. Since the money is not converted into fiat and it is normally a requirement at a casino that it must be returned to the same wallet. If it were converted into real money, it would be a completely different story to easily launder money that way. The example of $2000 is a small amount, but I have read that it is already around the limit with the licensor to perform a mandatory KYC on Curacao for everything above that amount.

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Quote from: ipanks on March 01, 2022, 01:57:58 AM

If your account is an old account that often deposits various amounts of money, the casino will not suspect you. But he just created an account a few days ago then deposited $2,000. If I were the owner or admin of that site, I would check the account often because I don't want anything wrong to happen to my site. Indeed, money laundering is an iterative process of depositing and withdrawing a certain amount of money. We know that the money laundering process is not like that because those who do money laundering will use various methods so that their plans can work well.

I would guess that it must be also related to where the money came from. I am not sure if they check that or not, but I always assumed that if the money came from a known binance wallet, or coinbase wallet or somewhere trustworthy with KYC like that, then withdrawn to somewhere like that again. Then the casinos would feel fine about it, or at least probably would feel fine if they knew and check it. But, if it comes from private wallet, and goes to private wallet then casinos may end up not feeling so sure about it as well.

Money laundering in casinos is a big risk. If it wasn't, all those people who steal millions of dollars in hacks, could simply send it to betfury, then withdraw to another account and nobody would know where the money went. Betfury and every other casino is responsible for keeping that away from their business.

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Quote from: BetFury.io on February 27, 2022, 01:28:07 PM

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Quote from: BetFury.io on February 27, 2022, 07:42:43 AM

~ Then exchanges like Binance and Pancake will be able to consider our application.

*

The Betfury team is interested in official listing and adding BFG token to the whitelist. To do this, there must be a good trading volume. At the moment we are doing our best to let more people know about our token and its utility. Each loyal user can bring us closer to listing on top exchanges. You just need to use the BFG opportunities and make trades. We do our best to bring BFG to the official listings with marketing support. Our team have never refused from listing on Binance and never won’t do it.

happy to hear that the betfury team's next target is listing on Binance. imo BFG token prices are currently very stable, I'm sure there are many traders out there who can't wait for BFG to be listed on Binance, BFG prices will definitely fluctuate and that makes the attraction of BFG even stronger.

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Quote from: pfhismgrpg on February 27, 2022, 10:41:44 AM

I opened an account a few days ago and made about $2000 profit, and then after withdrawing got some really weird messages asking for KYC docs.

I am not doing anything suspicious - just betting on a few football matches that seem like they are profitable, and I am betting from Ireland where it is legal.

Has anyone experienced this before - really don't want to have to give my personal details across to a gambling company!!

Did you carefully read the ToS before registering on the platform? There is a rule that they reserve the right to ask KYC at any time, and I'm assuming they asked KYC from you because of a rollover requirement. This means that each user must wager at least 3 times the deposit (for sports betting), and only after that, the withdrawal may be approved. Anyway, if you didn't break the rules, you should not have any problems with KYC because Betfury can be trusted.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on February 28, 2022, 09:43:08 AM

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If your account is an old account that often deposits various amounts of money, the casino will not suspect you. But he just created an account a few days ago then deposited $2,000. If I were the owner or admin of that site, I would check the account often because I don't want anything wrong to happen to my site. Indeed, money laundering is an iterative process of depositing and withdrawing a certain amount of money. We know that the money laundering process is not like that because those who do money laundering will use various methods so that their plans can work well.

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Quote from: ipanks on February 27, 2022, 11:06:03 PM

Quote from: pfhismgrpg on February 27, 2022, 05:39:22 PM

do you think the KYC checks are mainly due to money laundering checks. I assume depositing/withdrawaing/betting smaller amounts wouldn't alert these money laundering checks?

What do you think?

If you deposit a large amount of money (we assume that $2000 is a very large amount of money to gamble on), it will make gambling sites suspicious. Besides that, your account is only a few days old but you have already deposited a large amount of money. It is normal for the gambling site to suddenly ask and ask you to complete KYC to find out where your funds are coming from.

If the deposit is a small amount, even if it comes from money laundering, I don't think it will be okay and probably won't be a concern for gambling sites because they want to know who the players are using big money in gambling.

That's not how it works and you definitely didn't know what’s the casino protocol for checking money laundering activity, First of all 2000$ is not a very huge amoun to be suspected that you are laundering even if your account is new. Money laundering is a repetitive process of depositing and withdrawing fixed amount of money without commiting any bets or just few bets or deposit huge amount and withdraw it quickly at one go that’s why some casino requires wagering requirements for all the deposit money before they can withdraw.

Typically money launderer do this same pattern multiple times using different account which the casino can track by tracking there IP or by viewing there account activity.

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this is really good for those who use a VPN to play on betfury, i see many gambling players who come from countries that prohibit gambling. and regarding multi-accounts, it's best if players who use that trick are banned, because it can disrupt the business.

VPN is usually used to cheat bonuses and promotions there are also those who use it to access the game because some games are not available in several countries
In this case Betfury understands it as long as it does not violate the rules moreover there is a risk of frozen if caught, so far we haven't seen reports like this.

That is the key problem with most casinos. They really need to figure out a way to stop the bots without banning VPN. I mean I have been using VPN for as long as I can remember, did paid ones for years, free ones too, and now doing Opera one and I have been very happy with it.

There are some casinos, even most casinos that do not allow you to do something like that and I do not get why I have to really follow their rule just because they are afraid of the bots that would attack them. This is THEIR problem and not mine, they are bothering how I gamble just because of other people and that annoys me. It is not about just here, it is about everywhere else, plenty of casinos do this.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 27, 2022, 08:26:48 PM

Quote from: pfhismgrpg on February 27, 2022, 05:39:22 PM

do you think the KYC checks are mainly due to money laundering checks. I assume depositing/withdrawaing/betting smaller amounts wouldn't alert these money laundering checks?

What do you think?

Not only for money laundering, but other such breaking rules (e.g. using VPN, multi accounts etc).
It's really depends on their internal team, how they can suspect the funds is belong to money laundering or high illicit sources. But most of the case, small amount wouldn't get alert since casino only focus on the big amount only.

Betfury representative could address and explain this issue to make him know why he got asked to submit KYC.

In some cases KYC is applied in relation to each country's regulations or licenses to avoid some crimes. In crypto casino money laundering is not only focused on the amount but also on the behavior of the transaction for example deposit $100 then bet $10 and then request a withdrawal, it will be suspected of money laundering. this case often happens on some sites even with a balance under $100

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Quote from: pfhismgrpg on February 27, 2022, 05:39:22 PM

do you think the KYC checks are mainly due to money laundering checks. I assume depositing/withdrawaing/betting smaller amounts wouldn't alert these money laundering checks?

What do you think?

If you deposit a large amount of money (we assume that $2000 is a very large amount of money to gamble on), it will make gambling sites suspicious. Besides that, your account is only a few days old but you have already deposited a large amount of money. It is normal for the gambling site to suddenly ask and ask you to complete KYC to find out where your funds are coming from.

If the deposit is a small amount, even if it comes from money laundering, I don't think it will be okay and probably won't be a concern for gambling sites because they want to know who the players are using big money in gambling.

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Quote from: pfhismgrpg on February 27, 2022, 05:39:22 PM

do you think the KYC checks are mainly due to money laundering checks. I assume depositing/withdrawaing/betting smaller amounts wouldn't alert these money laundering checks?

What do you think?

Not only for money laundering, but other such breaking rules (e.g. using VPN, multi accounts etc).
It's really depends on their internal team, how they can suspect the funds is belong to money laundering or high illicit sources. But most of the case, small amount wouldn't get alert since casino only focus on the big amount only.

Betfury representative could address and explain this issue to make him know why he got asked to submit KYC.

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do you think the KYC checks are mainly due to money laundering checks. I assume depositing/withdrawaing/betting smaller amounts wouldn't alert these money laundering checks?

What do you think?

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Quote from: babygun on February 27, 2022, 04:07:22 PM

Quote from: pfhismgrpg on February 27, 2022, 10:41:44 AM

I opened an account a few days ago and made about $2000 profit, and then after withdrawing got some really weird messages asking for KYC docs.

I am not doing anything suspicious - just betting on a few football matches that seem like they are profitable, and I am betting from Ireland where it is legal.

Has anyone experienced this before - really don't want to have to give my personal details across to a gambling company!!
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I only withdrawed a lot lower amounts than you so they didn't ask for my KYC but as the support agent has stated they always have the right to ask it. This is not only valid for Betfury but for all major crypto casino sites.
They are legit so I wouldn't worry to do KYC on Betfury.

he is a new player and he is asking to withdraw quite a handsome amount. it may indeed trigger from the betfury side to ask kyc. as a licensed casino, they have their terms & conditions about this, read item 5.15 of their terms and conditions , as they can do random checks. also i hope you are not below 18 as they can freeze your funds.

btw, @pfhismgrpg, have you read their terms before sending money to betfury? it is a licensed casino so no surprise that they will ask kyc if they think something unusual to the account. you should have withdrawn small amount and not one-time withdrawal of big amount. because i think, that triggers their system.

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