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Quote from: dezoel on May 08, 2021, 05:42:30 PM

The thing is, you are already not allowed, you are doing something illegal. Let's say you are from a nation that is not allowed to play here, and then you managed to get in and gambled, whatever happens after that is your own responsibility and you should not be blaming anyone else for it.

If the casino keeps your money and doesn't give it back to you, that means they are keeping it until the government (or cops or whoever does this) asks for it, and that is understandable. Legally they are forced to give that to the authority that asks for it, and they will do it, if they try not to, that will end up very bad for them as well but they can keep it away from you because you did something illegal and giving it back to you would be illegal of them as well. Long story short, if you gamble from an illegal nation, that means you are taking all the risks with it.

Quote from: babygun on May 08, 2021, 09:19:17 AM

Before they acquired their license, allmost all countries could join and play on Betfury. After the license, some more countries can not play there anymore.
Normally, everybody that is member from a prohibited country, should still have access to the site to withdraw their funds.

Seems like babygun has explained it, which kinda makes sense. After acquiring the Curacao license, there are additional restrictions in order to comply with the gambling laws. Thanks!

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Quote from: UserU on May 08, 2021, 02:47:01 AM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on May 08, 2021, 01:08:10 AM

If someone is living in a country where you're not allowed to use Betfury how are they supposed to access their account to withdraw their money? The only thing that appears is a message that says 'gaming denied'. BFG tokens aren't even withdrawable so there is many people who just have their money trapped on the website because of these restrictions.

Shouldn't they be prohibited from playing in the first place? But then if such were to happen, BetFury would request the user to withdraw the funds before closing the account. That is, if its in good standing.

The thing is, you are already not allowed, you are doing something illegal. Let's say you are from a nation that is not allowed to play here, and then you managed to get in and gambled, whatever happens after that is your own responsibility and you should not be blaming anyone else for it.

If the casino keeps your money and doesn't give it back to you, that means they are keeping it until the government (or cops or whoever does this) asks for it, and that is understandable. Legally they are forced to give that to the authority that asks for it, and they will do it, if they try not to, that will end up very bad for them as well but they can keep it away from you because you did something illegal and giving it back to you would be illegal of them as well. Long story short, if you gamble from an illegal nation, that means you are taking all the risks with it.

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Quote from: babygun on May 08, 2021, 09:19:17 AM

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Tried again today and it went thru. I always check the network before sending anything though. Hard to lose money these days. Wink

Thanks.

Good to hear that it went through!

Quote from: UserU on May 08, 2021, 02:47:01 AM

Shouldn't they be prohibited from playing in the first place? But then if such were to happen, BetFury would request the user to withdraw the funds before closing the account. That is, if its in good standing.

Before they acquired their license, allmost all countries could join and play on Betfury. After the license, some more countries can not play there anymore.
Normally, everybody that is member from a prohibited country, should still have access to the site to withdraw their funds.

What countries are currently prohibited from playing at Betfury? Some licenses are very determined and specific, if they are based on US law, is it likely that they are prohibited? I'm not from the US, but in many places my country is prohibited, which, I think, doesn't make any sense.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on May 07, 2021, 06:38:24 AM

Tried again today and it went thru. I always check the network before sending anything though. Hard to lose money these days. Wink

Thanks.

Good to hear that it went through!

Quote from: UserU on May 08, 2021, 02:47:01 AM

Shouldn't they be prohibited from playing in the first place? But then if such were to happen, BetFury would request the user to withdraw the funds before closing the account. That is, if its in good standing.

Before they acquired their license, allmost all countries could join and play on Betfury. After the license, some more countries can not play there anymore.
Normally, everybody that is member from a prohibited country, should still have access to the site to withdraw their funds.

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Quote from: lixer on May 06, 2021, 04:04:01 PM

I do not get why people would invest for a quick profit into a casino. If you want to make a quick profit there are other methods that you could do, margin trading, leverages, even small cap coin purchase could still be a good one in few days if you are lucky. However casinos are not the right place for a quick profit if you are an investor, it just doesn't work like that. Sure if you invest now and some super rich person comes in and gambles tens of millions of dollars and lose them all that would work and I would get that, however most of the time we are talking about something that is rarely there, it is usually not like that at all.

Normally the house has an edge which is the profit margin most of the time, and that means you are going to gradually make more and more profit but it is going to take some time for you to get there so you need to be patient about it.

I think it is a bit more about how casinos could give you a quick profit thanks to ups and downs of the gamblers. However the reality is that someone who has absolutely no intention of gambling ever would probably not consider investing into a casino that easily neither, which means the "quick" profit is people who gamble here, and they know how they gamble themselves so they react accordingly.

If you have 10k in investment and 1k for bankrolling your gambling, you know how quickly that 1k can be gone, so that is why you keep that 10k in, so that you could profit people like yourself.

Anyone who has gambled in a high wagered session would know that losing 1k is something simple, it could be done in 1 minute, or could be stretched to 1 year, it all depends on how you gamble but anyone who lost it very quickly would probably know that if it is gone, it is gone and being on the other side is much better.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on May 08, 2021, 01:08:10 AM

If someone is living in a country where you're not allowed to use Betfury how are they supposed to access their account to withdraw their money? The only thing that appears is a message that says 'gaming denied'. BFG tokens aren't even withdrawable so there is many people who just have their money trapped on the website because of these restrictions.

Shouldn't they be prohibited from playing in the first place? But then if such were to happen, BetFury would request the user to withdraw the funds before closing the account. That is, if its in good standing.

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If someone is living in a country where you're not allowed to use Betfury how are they supposed to access their account to withdraw their money? The only thing that appears is a message that says 'gaming denied'. BFG tokens aren't even withdrawable so there is many people who just have their money trapped on the website because of these restrictions.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on May 05, 2021, 08:27:38 PM

Has anyone here encountered problem withdrawing ETH using BSC network? I have more than enough ETH to cover the transaction fee as well as I have more than the min withdrawal amount using the BSC network. However, it says insufficient balance.

Are you sure that you selected the right network? Same as Bttzed03, I already withdrawed ETH using BSC chain and it worked like a charm!

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Tried again today and it went thru. I always check the network before sending anything though. Hard to lose money these days. Wink

Thanks.

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Quote from: lixer on May 06, 2021, 04:04:01 PM

I do not get why people would invest for a quick profit into a casino. If you want to make a quick profit there are other methods that you could do, margin trading, leverages, even small cap coin purchase could still be a good one in few days if you are lucky.....

I think that the whole point is that there are still a lot of potential investors in cryptoeconomics who are not like traditional investors. These are people who, for example, during the 2017-2018 ICO period played at the rates of new tokens and became quite rich. According to their mentality, they do exactly that - get profit as soon as possible and quickly leave ... And so on. Many of these investors are in the past programmers without economic education and, accordingly, economic thinking. For traditional investors, the crypto world has not yet been sufficiently explored.
And by the way, such investors will definitely appear in the BetFury.

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Quote from: delfastTions on May 06, 2021, 03:31:37 AM

Investors should also be divided into two large classes.
The first invest in order to have a constant income in the future (maybe a small income even after a considerable time of the project).
But experience shows that in cryptocurrencies, the bulk of investors are those who invested quickly got a profit and quickly leave the project (sell tokens) in order to continue to behave this way. These second investors (and they are the majority) are completely unnecessary for the project, since for the project they only bring harm and chaos.

I do not get why people would invest for a quick profit into a casino. If you want to make a quick profit there are other methods that you could do, margin trading, leverages, even small cap coin purchase could still be a good one in few days if you are lucky. However casinos are not the right place for a quick profit if you are an investor, it just doesn't work like that. Sure if you invest now and some super rich person comes in and gambles tens of millions of dollars and lose them all that would work and I would get that, however most of the time we are talking about something that is rarely there, it is usually not like that at all.

Normally the house has an edge which is the profit margin most of the time, and that means you are going to gradually make more and more profit but it is going to take some time for you to get there so you need to be patient about it.

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Quote from: delfastTions on May 06, 2021, 03:31:37 AM

Investors should also be divided into two large classes.
The first invest in order to have a constant income in the future (maybe a small income even after a considerable time of the project).
But experience shows that in cryptocurrencies, the bulk of investors are those who invested quickly got a profit and quickly leave the project (sell tokens) in order to continue to behave this way. These second investors (and they are the majority) are completely unnecessary for the project, since for the project they only bring harm and chaos.

I agree with your opinion, what happens is that for the most part it is difficult to determine which investors are long-term and who like the platform and bet on the future of BFG tokens, those who think that way usually have an education financially different, who see the benefits of casinos as long-term passive income and have it there without touching it for many years, because they know that as it continues to be given, it may have a time limit.

For investors looking to obtain short-term profits, they usually see it as if it were trading, but a safer trading that enjoys the security of the casino to protect their funds and more so now that it has so many altcoins included.

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Quote from: babygun on May 05, 2021, 07:00:32 AM

- Something about sport:)
- New Huge Event

So maybe a sportsbook is coming soon to Betfury!

It's great that Betfury continues to follow the roadmap. IIRC they have been planning to add sports betting for a long time, considering that they put it in the roadmap last year. So I guess this upcoming huge event may be dedicated to .

Awesome! BetFury is a project with a shiny future. BFG will be listing on exchange, sports betting and other most significant things coming up in the following event. I'm expected more new games, and the awaited sportsbook will be unveiled soon. I'm sure new stuff that's coming up

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Quote from: babygun on May 05, 2021, 07:00:32 AM

- Something about sport:)
- New Huge Event

So maybe a sportsbook is coming soon to Betfury!

It's great that Betfury continues to follow the roadmap. IIRC they have been planning to add sports betting for a long time, considering that they put it in the roadmap last year. So I guess this upcoming huge event may be dedicated to sports betting.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on May 05, 2021, 08:27:38 PM

Has anyone here encountered problem withdrawing ETH using BSC network? I have more than enough ETH to cover the transaction fee as well as I have more than the min withdrawal amount using the BSC network. However, it says insufficient balance.

Are you sure that you selected the right network? Same as Bttzed03, I already withdrawed ETH using BSC chain and it worked like a charm!

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Quote from: babygun on May 05, 2021, 07:00:32 AM

- New Huge Event

First i was thinking that this would be listing, but when i take a closer look at the wording, it sounds like something else. They would probably say it's a listing if it was, but this could be something better; Something huge they haven't done before, something unlike altcoin spring.

You never know, maybe it is still the listing and to celebrate it, they will organize a new huge event. Lets wait and see Wink

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Quote from: robelneo on May 02, 2021, 07:32:02 PM

I like your analysis but it's still speculative we are supporting Betfury because we are playing on it and we are staking our Betfury tokens, but if the developers decide to list the token to the market, there are new people coming in and these are investors who do not gamble but focus their time on trading coins, they might open an account on Betfury and stake their purchased token, Betfury's popularity and profitability will depend on the development of the platform and new people coming I to play and invest.

Perhaps I will add to your post that indeed, if there is mining and free circulation of cryptocurrencies, including your own token, the number of those who do not play on the site but invest their coins can greatly increase. But for a gaming site, this is not very interesting. And the ratio of players/investors in their own coin should of course be more in favor of the players. And this is where it is good to think before listing on large exchanges and, in general, to make sure that new players come in, and investors who decide to just take the opportunity would not have a good prospect.

If both are being taking care or being address accordingly, this project will become more solid and more interest
will show up coming from both the gamblers and investors.

Investors should also be divided into two large classes.
The first invest in order to have a constant income in the future (maybe a small income even after a considerable time of the project).
But experience shows that in cryptocurrencies, the bulk of investors are those who invested quickly got a profit and quickly leave the project (sell tokens) in order to continue to behave this way. These second investors (and they are the majority) are completely unnecessary for the project, since for the project they only bring harm and chaos.

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Quote from: babygun on May 05, 2021, 07:00:32 AM

- New Huge Event

First i was thinking that this would be listing, but when i take a closer look at the wording, it sounds like something else. They would probably say it's a listing if it was, but this could be something better; Something huge they haven't done before, something unlike altcoin spring.

Will be interesting to see what Betfury prepared for us this time... what that huge event this can be?! Some new coins? And new providers? I missed the last event, but I will not miss this one!

-New NFT! Maybe this is a good opportunity to win some NFT cards... I will take a closer look at this, I wonder how can we win this NFT, what we have to do for that?!

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on May 05, 2021, 08:27:38 PM

Has anyone here encountered problem withdrawing ETH using BSC network? I have more than enough ETH to cover the transaction fee as well as I have more than the min withdrawal amount using the BSC network. However, it says insufficient balance.

I just did and I received them in my personal wallet within seconds. The insufficient balance error is probably due your withdrawal that's below the minimum amount. Check again if you have at least 0.0005 ETH

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Has anyone here encountered problem withdrawing ETH using BSC network? I have more than enough ETH to cover the transaction fee as well as I have more than the min withdrawal amount using the BSC network. However, it says insufficient balance.

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Quote from: babygun on May 05, 2021, 07:00:32 AM

- New Huge Event

First i was thinking that this would be listing, but when i take a closer look at the wording, it sounds like something else. They would probably say it's a listing if it was, but this could be something better; Something huge they haven't done before, something unlike altcoin spring.

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Quote from: cryptoperkele on May 05, 2021, 01:06:51 AM

Betfury hasn't made any such statement. I was just trying to make sense what Obito and Renampun were talking about. And yes, if the pools would fell to zero, there would be nothing to pay from obviously. But i don't see it falling to zero nor i have seen it decreased in dollar value. Obviously it has dropped in btc/eth and BNB value because those are climbing in dollar value.

I think there is a reason behind that. There is a fact that the price of almost all coins are going up, which causes people to focus more on trading and investment over gambling which causes the dividends to be less and less these days. I am not saying that it is a good thing or a bad thing, all I am saying is that this is a thing and there is nothing we can do about it, as long as prices are like this people will keep on investing and not gambling.

Obviously there are people who gets crypto just to gamble, or people who wants to stop but can't, or simply any other person who just wants to gamble but the number of these people are getting lower during periods when there is a huge bull market. ETH is over 3k+ bnb is over 600+ many coins are reaching all time high prices and that is why I think it is obvious we are not going to see too much gambling.

But one thing I have seen elsewhere, the volume of gambling has increased new websites also come up almost every month
I understand there are gamblers who play for fun which means gambling when they profit from trading but that's only a small part

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