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And i am pretty sure they didn't even bother to check where in the world this centalized dividend distrubution from profits would be even legal, because betury ended up serving only handful of countries.

Yeah, Betfury has a huge list of restricted jurisdictions in its rules. I think that when the Betfury developers only had the idea of creating the project and only launched it, it is unlikely that they could have foreseen all the nuances and consequences. However, the fact that Betfury still allows its users to use VPNs indicates that they are only formally restricting access for users from banned jurisdictions.
They usually restrict countries where people have enough money to gamble regularly, the list of restricted countries includes a lot of wealthy countries. It wouldn't surprise me if this is just a formal thing and they allow users to play with VPN from different countries but according to law, they have the right to seize your account if they find out that you access them from restricted country but I think it's better for everyone to figure that out with casino at first because I heard from one user that Stake let him to gamble on their website despite the fact that user was from a restricted country.
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And i am pretty sure they didn't even bother to check where in the world this centalized dividend distrubution from profits would be even legal, because betury ended up serving only handful of countries.
Yeah, Betfury has a huge list of restricted jurisdictions in its rules. I think that when the Betfury developers only had the idea of creating the project and only launched it, it is unlikely that they could have foreseen all the nuances and consequences. However, the fact that Betfury still allows its users to use VPNs indicates that they are only formally restricting access for users from banned jurisdictions.
I mean that is what most other casinos do as well, it is not really a new idea, most of the time they have to legally say that they can't accept players from certain nations and it's banned, and even a reason to kick a player out, but then when you use VPN they nudge you towards that solution.

This isn't just about betfury neither, every single casino out there does that like for example my nation is blocked in every single casino that I play in, there isn't a single place that doesn't ban my nation, and yet I still get to gamble in all of them because I use VPN and that makes it easier, and some of them even accept without VPN as well, riskier move but shows you how much they care about that, it's just they have to put it up for legal reasons.
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Aren't Betfury able to identify browser cookies where if you use TOR or VPN using Firefox, for example, they will know that this user uses VPN and a regular browser on two accounts?

Since Betfury hasn't hunted them down yet, I think their loss because of them aren't yet substantial enough to affect their business. They still could tolerate those abuses for now.

I think they are cracking down this account silently but only those showing abuse since it’s very easy to create an account by just connecting wallet address. I have multiple account on Betfury but I don’t use them at the same time.

It just happened that I frequently change wallet address and I really don’t care my VIP level when playing on Betfury since I just want to bet quickly using my web3 wallet. So far my account is still safe.
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Aren't Betfury able to identify browser cookies where if you use TOR or VPN using Firefox, for example, they will know that this user uses VPN and a regular browser on two accounts?

Since Betfury hasn't hunted them down yet, I think their loss because of them aren't yet substantial enough to affect their business. They still could tolerate those abuses for now.

I think there are always on the lookout to shut down double account and abusers. Why would they lower over the years the free crypto you could claim from the boxes? Main reason was the multi accounts; so the problem is real and this is probably a problem that a lot of casinos deal with!
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Aren't Betfury able to identify browser cookies where if you use TOR or VPN using Firefox, for example, they will know that this user uses VPN and a regular browser on two accounts?

Since Betfury hasn't hunted them down yet, I think their loss because of them aren't yet substantial enough to affect their business. They still could tolerate those abuses for now.
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I have used many casino sites some of which I can't access normally but I have accessed them through VPN but never faced any problem but for Betfurry I never used VPN as it is smooth access for my country without VPN. So I don't have much experience whether accessing this site using vpn will have any problem and is it vpn friendly.
I have also gambled through vpn on many gambling websites before. But till now I have not faced any issue with using VPN on them, there is the stake in them, moreover, I used to use Gamdom long ago. I have used VPN to withdraw money on them but have not faced any problems.
However, I will say that gambling using VPN is risky in most cases, in many cases you will not face any problems because your gambling amount is low but when your gambling amount will be high then accessing a casino website using vpn will may cause of freeze your account. So I would say that in terms of gambling, it would be better to gamble on all the websites where gambling can be done without vpn in your country.
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Before using this maybe people should ask about the support about this so they will have clarification regarding the usage of VPN. But if you are in restricted country then its really better not to use vpn just to access the casino since its really  risky to gamble especially if they ask a KYC to them and they can't pass because they are residing in restricted country so this will be a huge trouble in their part. If we are fine and not listed on the restricted country then I think from that we are fine to use VPN since we don't have any conflict to go thru since we are playing legally on allowed country.

VPN might be legal to them but people should ask about more details about this, Its hard to commit mistake so we need to make sure that we are totally fine.

Betfury managers wrote about using VPNs earlier. Here is their post. Based on this post, I conclude that they are more concerned about those users who abuse and create multi-accounts than those who use VPN to access the site. Personally, I have used a VPN to access the Betfury site many times, and my Betfury account still has no problems because of it.
Anyway, if you still have doubts about this, it's better to ask Betfury support directly about it.

Actually multi accounting is more discourage to do so I think this is the main thing to avoid rather than VPN since as said Betfury manager allow to use it so provably there's no further more question to be ask since there's already a statement given by their representative.

But we can't still convince people since some of them are just so careful regarding on this since maybe they experience a worst thing by using it on other casino so to calm their minds towards this its really best to ask them since I think they can give more clear explanation about everything they want to ask.
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Before using this maybe people should ask about the support about this so they will have clarification regarding the usage of VPN. But if you are in restricted country then its really better not to use vpn just to access the casino since its really  risky to gamble especially if they ask a KYC to them and they can't pass because they are residing in restricted country so this will be a huge trouble in their part. If we are fine and not listed on the restricted country then I think from that we are fine to use VPN since we don't have any conflict to go thru since we are playing legally on allowed country.

VPN might be legal to them but people should ask about more details about this, Its hard to commit mistake so we need to make sure that we are totally fine.

Betfury managers wrote about using VPNs earlier. Here is their post. Based on this post, I conclude that they are more concerned about those users who abuse and create multi-accounts than those who use VPN to access the site. Personally, I have used a VPN to access the Betfury site many times, and my Betfury account still has no problems because of it.
Anyway, if you still have doubts about this, it's better to ask Betfury support directly about it.
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Guys, I am currently playing some slot games on BetFury in order to see if I could meet up with a wager requirement of a bonus I just claimed from btcgosu some few hours ago, but I currently lack ideas on which slot game to play to better my chances of completing the wager requirement which is about $750, and also coming out with some profit at the end of it all.

Though there is a limited number of slot games the system allows me to play since i am playing from my bonus account, I still will or would very much appreciate suggestions on which slot games to choose, and what provider is best, currently, I've been playing only games from pragmatic, share with me some slot games with low house edge if you any.

Thanks very much in anticipation.
Slot games are the same across all platforms, nothing different here. But I don't know if you can earn money with free spain from your bonus. Here it says to meet a demand of $750. If you can play Spain and meet the demand of $750, you may be able to withdraw your funds, but I think you will lose before you meet your $750 demand. So I want to tell you that if you end up playing 77 Free Spain as entertainment without spending enough time here, it will not be a waste of your time.
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And i am pretty sure they didn't even bother to check where in the world this centalized dividend distrubution from profits would be even legal, because betury ended up serving only handful of countries.

Yeah, Betfury has a huge list of restricted jurisdictions in its rules. I think that when the Betfury developers only had the idea of creating the project and only launched it, it is unlikely that they could have foreseen all the nuances and consequences. However, the fact that Betfury still allows its users to use VPNs indicates that they are only formally restricting access for users from banned jurisdictions.


This is incorrect interpretation on why Betfury allow VPN. VPN is use for privacy purposes but that doesn’t mean you are allowed to use to bypass the country restriction to play in the casino. There are many users that use VPN regularly when playing in the casino and other website for privacy. I believe that’s the reason why Betfury allow VPN usage and not to bypass restrictions because they are committing a violation against their license if they allow players from restricted country to play.

I think the point is that, as long as a gambling casino allows their users to make use of vpn for what ever purpose, trust that alot of users will abuse that privilege.
I have never played on BetFury before using a vpn, whether for privacy of whatever, and neither did I even know that it was safe to use vpn on the site aside the fact I am just learning about it here.

But all same, I personally would believe that if using VPN on BetFury is legal, then, there are probably a lot of customers from restricted areas or region who would be using it to access the casino, this is a basic fact.

Before using this maybe people should ask about the support about this so they will have clarification regarding the usage of VPN. But if you are in restricted country then its really better not to use vpn just to access the casino since its really  risky to gamble especially if they ask a KYC to them and they can't pass because they are residing in restricted country so this will be a huge trouble in their part. If we are fine and not listed on the restricted country then I think from that we are fine to use VPN since we don't have any conflict to go thru since we are playing legally on allowed country.

VPN might be legal to them but people should ask about more details about this, Its hard to commit mistake so we need to make sure that we are totally fine.
I have used many casino sites some of which I can't access normally but I have accessed them through VPN but never faced any problem but for Betfurry I never used VPN as it is smooth access for my country without VPN. So I don't have much experience whether accessing this site using vpn will have any problem and is it vpn friendly.
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Guys, I am currently playing some slot games on BetFury in order to see if I could meet up with a wager requirement of a bonus I just claimed from btcgosu some few hours ago, but I currently lack ideas on which slot game to play to better my chances of completing the wager requirement which is about $750, and also coming out with some profit at the end of it all.

Though there is a limited number of slot games the system allows me to play since i am playing from my bonus account, I still will or would very much appreciate suggestions on which slot games to choose, and what provider is best, currently, I've been playing only games from pragmatic, share with me some slot games with low house edge if you any.

Thanks very much in anticipation.
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And i am pretty sure they didn't even bother to check where in the world this centalized dividend distrubution from profits would be even legal, because betury ended up serving only handful of countries.

Yeah, Betfury has a huge list of restricted jurisdictions in its rules. I think that when the Betfury developers only had the idea of creating the project and only launched it, it is unlikely that they could have foreseen all the nuances and consequences. However, the fact that Betfury still allows its users to use VPNs indicates that they are only formally restricting access for users from banned jurisdictions.


One of the things that changed over the years is that they acquired a license. From that moment on, a lot of countries were on the restricted list but as you mention, they allow the use of a VPN to keep using their website.
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And i am pretty sure they didn't even bother to check where in the world this centalized dividend distrubution from profits would be even legal, because betury ended up serving only handful of countries.

Yeah, Betfury has a huge list of restricted jurisdictions in its rules. I think that when the Betfury developers only had the idea of creating the project and only launched it, it is unlikely that they could have foreseen all the nuances and consequences. However, the fact that Betfury still allows its users to use VPNs indicates that they are only formally restricting access for users from banned jurisdictions.


This is incorrect interpretation on why Betfury allow VPN. VPN is use for privacy purposes but that doesn’t mean you are allowed to use to bypass the country restriction to play in the casino. There are many users that use VPN regularly when playing in the casino and other website for privacy. I believe that’s the reason why Betfury allow VPN usage and not to bypass restrictions because they are committing a violation against their license if they allow players from restricted country to play.

I think the point is that, as long as a gambling casino allows their users to make use of vpn for what ever purpose, trust that alot of users will abuse that privilege.
I have never played on BetFury before using a vpn, whether for privacy of whatever, and neither did I even know that it was safe to use vpn on the site aside the fact I am just learning about it here.

But all same, I personally would believe that if using VPN on BetFury is legal, then, there are probably a lot of customers from restricted areas or region who would be using it to access the casino, this is a basic fact.

Before using this maybe people should ask about the support about this so they will have clarification regarding the usage of VPN. But if you are in restricted country then its really better not to use vpn just to access the casino since its really  risky to gamble especially if they ask a KYC to them and they can't pass because they are residing in restricted country so this will be a huge trouble in their part. If we are fine and not listed on the restricted country then I think from that we are fine to use VPN since we don't have any conflict to go thru since we are playing legally on allowed country.

VPN might be legal to them but people should ask about more details about this, Its hard to commit mistake so we need to make sure that we are totally fine.
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Using VPN while it isnt allowed is tricky. They allow to lose and win money, but in a different scenario, usage of VPN can cause withdrawal problems (they can lock account after a big win for example). I dont think this is fair.
The easy thing is to ask their service support or other support team about using a VPN, after all, sometimes people often experience this because they are lazy to ask about the terms of using VPN on the site, each casino site always has different requirements and regulations, so don't be shy. to ask so that it doesn't become a new problem for anyone.

It's true that there are cases of accounts being frozen and withdrawals being held due to VPN use, but that's only on some casino sites because not all casinos prohibit it, I personally don't know Betfury's terms and regulations but there's no harm in asking anyone in this thread or support service on their site about VPN use. because there are some countries that may prohibit gambling and cannot access gambling, so you have to use a VPN.

Indeed it easy to ask, as consultation is always free. But the way casinos answer, it is usually a very general information like "according to our rules" and a copy-pasted clause from ToS or "it isnt allowed and use it at own risk". Often support answer like there is not much of an answer to a question.
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And i am pretty sure they didn't even bother to check where in the world this centalized dividend distrubution from profits would be even legal, because betury ended up serving only handful of countries.

Yeah, Betfury has a huge list of restricted jurisdictions in its rules. I think that when the Betfury developers only had the idea of creating the project and only launched it, it is unlikely that they could have foreseen all the nuances and consequences. However, the fact that Betfury still allows its users to use VPNs indicates that they are only formally restricting access for users from banned jurisdictions.


This is incorrect interpretation on why Betfury allow VPN. VPN is use for privacy purposes but that doesn’t mean you are allowed to use to bypass the country restriction to play in the casino. There are many users that use VPN regularly when playing in the casino and other website for privacy. I believe that’s the reason why Betfury allow VPN usage and not to bypass restrictions because they are committing a violation against their license if they allow players from restricted country to play.

I think the point is that, as long as a gambling casino allows their users to make use of vpn for what ever purpose, trust that alot of users will abuse that privilege.
I have never played on BetFury before using a vpn, whether for privacy of whatever, and neither did I even know that it was safe to use vpn on the site aside the fact I am just learning about it here.

But all same, I personally would believe that if using VPN on BetFury is legal, then, there are probably a lot of customers from restricted areas or region who would be using it to access the casino, this is a basic fact.
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Using VPN while it isnt allowed is tricky. They allow to lose and win money, but in a different scenario, usage of VPN can cause withdrawal problems (they can lock account after a big win for example). I dont think this is fair.
The easy thing is to ask their service support or other support team about using a VPN, after all, sometimes people often experience this because they are lazy to ask about the terms of using VPN on the site, each casino site always has different requirements and regulations, so don't be shy. to ask so that it doesn't become a new problem for anyone.

It's true that there are cases of accounts being frozen and withdrawals being held due to VPN use, but that's only on some casino sites because not all casinos prohibit it, I personally don't know Betfury's terms and regulations but there's no harm in asking anyone in this thread or support service on their site about VPN use. because there are some countries that may prohibit gambling and cannot access gambling, so you have to use a VPN.
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And i am pretty sure they didn't even bother to check where in the world this centalized dividend distrubution from profits would be even legal, because betury ended up serving only handful of countries.

Yeah, Betfury has a huge list of restricted jurisdictions in its rules. I think that when the Betfury developers only had the idea of creating the project and only launched it, it is unlikely that they could have foreseen all the nuances and consequences. However, the fact that Betfury still allows its users to use VPNs indicates that they are only formally restricting access for users from banned jurisdictions.


This is incorrect interpretation on why Betfury allow VPN. VPN is use for privacy purposes but that doesn’t mean you are allowed to use to bypass the country restriction to play in the casino. There are many users that use VPN regularly when playing in the casino and other website for privacy. I believe that’s the reason why Betfury allow VPN usage and not to bypass restrictions because they are committing a violation against their license if they allow players from restricted country to play.
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And i am pretty sure they didn't even bother to check where in the world this centalized dividend distrubution from profits would be even legal, because betury ended up serving only handful of countries.

Yeah, Betfury has a huge list of restricted jurisdictions in its rules. I think that when the Betfury developers only had the idea of creating the project and only launched it, it is unlikely that they could have foreseen all the nuances and consequences. However, the fact that Betfury still allows its users to use VPNs indicates that they are only formally restricting access for users from banned jurisdictions.


I find it strange that some rules contradict other rules. Some countries are restricted to use sports betting, while are allowed to gamble in casino, and to use NFT loot boxes now. I dont understand logic of that, because you are not allowed and both allowed to gamble. Consequences from loosing are the same, people get same gambling addiction.

Using VPN while it isnt allowed is tricky. They allow to lose and win money, but in a different scenario, usage of VPN can cause withdrawal problems (they can lock account after a big win for example). I dont think this is fair.
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Well along this path of learning about casinos and everything they can do to Improve, I Have never seen leaving bitcointalk traffic be the best option , yes for non-crypto Casinos , fiat casinos Don't matter , because it is something that they have a level of Competition at other levels that are not those of those in Crypto , but to give a boost to a forum that is Satoshi's, where there are very large investors, where they will leave anything for a token They are doing it very well, I think it is not the right way, there is an old saying that they say where I saw it is:  "He who covers a lot, squeezes little" eventually if they got involved with tokens and a market like crypto, Well, they had to have some awareness of what they were getting into, not because of them with the token , but to have the necessary tact Because there were Investors who were there with them Buying their tokens, trusting in what they should be , whether they were Right or Wrong in their situation  casino , that Was not the Correct behavior.

First of all, I have to have a very futuristic vision, if at this Moment I don't have a casino in which I did all that, I am not exempt from doing things well and having everything collapse again, and when I want to emerge, who do I need? ? To the clients, to the players, to the audience, and to everything in the community possible, if they come to Bitcointalk again to do things better, to build on what they did, do you think they will have the highest level of trust that they had in them? No, because obviously how are you going to give it an opportunity when they let a token that looked very promising leave it alone in decentralized exchanges, and not worry about Raising the price or holding contests, or so many things, the advantage they have as a casino is that people trust more than any project they get from an alt, and that is Something that disappoints, for the Investors and players who Believed in the beginning.
But among some other things they messed up was the plan. As their end game didn't seem to make any sense from the beginning. Casino was generating volume by people grinding and mining the token, but there was no clear plan what would happen next. Circulating supply kept rising and dividends decreasing. Mining for tokens didn't make any sense any more. And i am pretty sure they didn't even bother to check where in the world this centalized dividend distrubution from profits would be even legal, because betury ended up serving only handful of countries.

They had lots of promise and i ignored lots of red flags because of it.


This is the reason why people got discourage about them since it seems that they didn't been heard by management and continue suffering from current status of their token. If BFG know how to settle some emotions and do more better job regarding on developing other important things that can help their token for sure many people will not get disappointed on their performance. But they remain silent despite of so many doubts and negative discussion that's why to many investors are not got dismayed about them.

We might don't know what is there plan for future but for sure many of those old holders got enough on what they are seeing at the moment. To many speculations and other discussions related to their token rise up here so I guess the negative discussion will continue unless they do something to help it and also the people holding those tokens.
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And i am pretty sure they didn't even bother to check where in the world this centalized dividend distrubution from profits would be even legal, because betury ended up serving only handful of countries.

Yeah, Betfury has a huge list of restricted jurisdictions in its rules. I think that when the Betfury developers only had the idea of creating the project and only launched it, it is unlikely that they could have foreseen all the nuances and consequences. However, the fact that Betfury still allows its users to use VPNs indicates that they are only formally restricting access for users from banned jurisdictions.
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