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hero member
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If they could just allow all people to gamble on their casino then that would be better since that means more profit would come into their platform. But restrictions and certain regulation stop them that's why they can't do that. Also I guess they would also be in trouble if they let their user to use VPN to bypass restriction that's why so we can avoid those issues and the casino also will not face any regulation issue then its better for site user to follow the rules regarding on what restriction added by them. To avoid any of those avoid those casino who restrict your country and much better find alternative one that allows you to do your thing in their casino since this is I think the safest option to choose.
Casinos do not allow users to break the ToS rules and if the casino does then other users will not believe the rules and they will consider the casino inconsistent with their own rules, my advice is not to force yourself to use a VPN at the casino because your account can be blocked at any time and you don't have identity from another country to verify KYC data and at the casino, so there is no other choice for the user's restricted country and they just look for another appropriate casino and make sure that their country is still allowed to gamble without breaking the rules.

Casino have these rules of their for a reason and it wouldn't be making sense if people start seeing that the actual rules put in place aren't actually effective, I believe rules are there for a reason so if a casino restricts the use of VPN and you then went ahead to use VPN, it would be at your own cost and nothing more. Looking for a casino that offer you their service would actually be the best thing and moreover they are tons of them out there.

This kind of actions still exist since there are noobs still think that they could able to bypass some restriction and push what they want to gamble on that casino. That's the reason why we still seeing those issue exist and they claim to get compromise due to jurisdictions issue.

So for people not to have that errors they could just simply follow what rules does the casino implemented since if they break one of their rules then provably that they might encounter a problem with them. If they say that they are fine and they are using it for many months already then maybe issue didn't occur yet and they will be in big trouble if the casino will find something suspicious activity happened and KYC will be asked to them. That time for sure they will be caught bypassing some restriction since for sure they can't deny in that case that these people are residing in restricted country.
hero member
Activity: 644
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
If they could just allow all people to gamble on their casino then that would be better since that means more profit would come into their platform. But restrictions and certain regulation stop them that's why they can't do that. Also I guess they would also be in trouble if they let their user to use VPN to bypass restriction that's why so we can avoid those issues and the casino also will not face any regulation issue then its better for site user to follow the rules regarding on what restriction added by them. To avoid any of those avoid those casino who restrict your country and much better find alternative one that allows you to do your thing in their casino since this is I think the safest option to choose.
Casinos do not allow users to break the ToS rules and if the casino does then other users will not believe the rules and they will consider the casino inconsistent with their own rules, my advice is not to force yourself to use a VPN at the casino because your account can be blocked at any time and you don't have identity from another country to verify KYC data and at the casino, so there is no other choice for the user's restricted country and they just look for another appropriate casino and make sure that their country is still allowed to gamble without breaking the rules.

Casino have these rules of their for a reason and it wouldn't be making sense if people start seeing that the actual rules put in place aren't actually effective, I believe rules are there for a reason so if a casino restricts the use of VPN and you then went ahead to use VPN, it would be at your own cost and nothing more. Looking for a casino that offer you their service would actually be the best thing and moreover they are tons of them out there.
hero member
Activity: 2436
Merit: 607
If they could just allow all people to gamble on their casino then that would be better since that means more profit would come into their platform. But restrictions and certain regulation stop them that's why they can't do that. Also I guess they would also be in trouble if they let their user to use VPN to bypass restriction that's why so we can avoid those issues and the casino also will not face any regulation issue then its better for site user to follow the rules regarding on what restriction added by them. To avoid any of those avoid those casino who restrict your country and much better find alternative one that allows you to do your thing in their casino since this is I think the safest option to choose.
Casinos do not allow users to break the ToS rules and if the casino does then other users will not believe the rules and they will consider the casino inconsistent with their own rules, my advice is not to force yourself to use a VPN at the casino because your account can be blocked at any time and you don't have identity from another country to verify KYC data and at the casino, so there is no other choice for the user's restricted country and they just look for another appropriate casino and make sure that their country is still allowed to gamble without breaking the rules.
hero member
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You mean that unofficially they target international audience? I am guessing they target anyone they can and hope they get away with it. But this just makes me think that they aren't planning for long time growth, because this is not the planned road. It just looks like that they want to go around regulations as long as they get away with it.

I hope you luck and that i am wrong, because i am guessing that if and when this site finally shuts down, they have planned it in a way they can disappear. And it's not like any of their users who log in via VPN would have legal claim for their money anyway.

More than sure that those formal restrictions are neglected, if not all than most of the gambling sites. As I said earlier, if gambling sites would carefully comply with the requirements and restrictions of regulators, the traffic to their sites and, consequently, their profits would be much less.
And if there is a fear of losing money because of the use of a VPN, then it makes sense not to keep funds on gambling sites that you are afraid to lose.

If they could just allow all people to gamble on their casino then that would be better since that means more profit would come into their platform. But restrictions and certain regulation stop them that's why they can't do that. Also I guess they would also be in trouble if they let their user to use VPN to bypass restriction that's why so we can avoid those issues and the casino also will not face any regulation issue then its better for site user to follow the rules regarding on what restriction added by them. To avoid any of those avoid those casino who restrict your country and much better find alternative one that allows you to do your thing in their casino since this is I think the safest option to choose.
legendary
Activity: 3094
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You mean that unofficially they target international audience? I am guessing they target anyone they can and hope they get away with it. But this just makes me think that they aren't planning for long time growth, because this is not the planned road. It just looks like that they want to go around regulations as long as they get away with it.

I hope you luck and that i am wrong, because i am guessing that if and when this site finally shuts down, they have planned it in a way they can disappear. And it's not like any of their users who log in via VPN would have legal claim for their money anyway.

More than sure that those formal restrictions are neglected, if not all than most of the gambling sites. As I said earlier, if gambling sites would carefully comply with the requirements and restrictions of regulators, the traffic to their sites and, consequently, their profits would be much less.
And if there is a fear of losing money because of the use of a VPN, then it makes sense not to keep funds on gambling sites that you are afraid to lose.
legendary
Activity: 3080
Merit: 1178
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I have always accessed the Betfury website via VPN, and I have never once encountered a blocking or banning issue. Every time I've used the VPN to access, the platform has functioned without any restrictions or warnings. Betfury really doesn't seem to take any action against users using a VPN, even if they are logging in from restricted regions. Perhaps this is due to the fact that the platform targets an international audience.
You mean that unofficially they target international audience? I am guessing they target anyone they can and hope they get away with it. But this just makes me think that they aren't planning for long time growth, because this is not the planned road. It just looks like that they want to go around regulations as long as they get away with it.

I hope you luck and that i am wrong, because i am guessing that if and when this site finally shuts down, they have planned it in a way they can disappear. And it's not like any of their users who log in via VPN would have legal claim for their money anyway.
legendary
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I don't think that many of these sites even care if people log in from restricted countries without vpn as long as they don't admit they are from restricted location. I remember looking at some casinos with website's traffic analyzer while ago, and saw that sometimes the major traffic came from casino's restricted countries. If that traffic was indeed gamblers from those countries, i am thinking at some point something is going to be done about it. 

I am not judging anyone for doing that, but personally i wouldn't have the guts to wait for the day i get banned, and there would be nothing i could do it if i violated their ToS such a major way.

I think many casinos want the regulators not to have any formal questions for them. But at the same time, casinos want to get as much profit as possible. This is probably typical for many gambling platforms, especially crypto gambling platforms. As for Betfury, I honestly don't remember any case when they would ban a user because of a VPN or because of entering their site from a restricted region.

I have always accessed the Betfury website via VPN, and I have never once encountered a blocking or banning issue. Every time I've used the VPN to access, the platform has functioned without any restrictions or warnings. Betfury really doesn't seem to take any action against users using a VPN, even if they are logging in from restricted regions. Perhaps this is due to the fact that the platform targets an international audience.
legendary
Activity: 3094
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I don't think that many of these sites even care if people log in from restricted countries without vpn as long as they don't admit they are from restricted location. I remember looking at some casinos with website's traffic analyzer while ago, and saw that sometimes the major traffic came from casino's restricted countries. If that traffic was indeed gamblers from those countries, i am thinking at some point something is going to be done about it. 

I am not judging anyone for doing that, but personally i wouldn't have the guts to wait for the day i get banned, and there would be nothing i could do it if i violated their ToS such a major way.

I think many casinos want the regulators not to have any formal questions for them. But at the same time, casinos want to get as much profit as possible. This is probably typical for many gambling platforms, especially crypto gambling platforms. As for Betfury, I honestly don't remember any case when they would ban a user because of a VPN or because of entering their site from a restricted region.
hero member
Activity: 2632
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Maybe I'm wrong in my analysis, but for the time I've been on this forum I've noticed that signature campaigns that are run for a short period of time, something like less than 1 month, in most cases are because the company wants results quick, the company is desperate for quick customers and hires the campaign manager with the hope that in 1 week of running the campaign he will have a lot of customers, and when a week goes by and he doesn't see many customers and he looks at the money spent on the campaign, he hopes 1 more week and after not seeing results again then the company cancels the signature campaign.
You can't conclude when you are not part of the casino or the campaign manager who held the signature campaign, because they are the ones who best understand why there are casinos that hold very short campaigns, you can only guess. All companies hope for success in promotions as quickly as possible no matter how much money they have, because if the short time does not guarantee success, neither does the long term because casino success is not only from the campaigns they hold on this forum but also from other things, because players don't just come from this forum.

We can't conclude but we can observe the result of the activities they have done.

Even if they run a short campaign then maybe we can say that its effective since it erase up the thoughts of people that its like they are not doing anything and also they are successful for making their thread have a activity since people are now having a discussions about many things about happenings in their casino.

I guess Betfury management didn't really need a long exposure since maybe they know that their casino is stable for now.

They will only came up then open a signature campaign when there's something important that needed to promote.
legendary
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All in all, I believe that we are going to end up with BFG failing to go as high as we want it to be as long as this is the path. We need the team to figure out some sort of different path for it to take, some way to make it more popular, otherwise just like all other casino tokens, it is not going to end up with anything profitable at all, just seems not that enticing to anyone.

Many of us don't really care much about the price appreciation anymore tbh. Just letting them yield dividends.

Many people fail to realize this, it's all about dividends, and the price will not go as high as some expect. All casino tokens are pretty much similar, they are in their range, and just some of them have spikes from time to time.

Casino tokens are profitable when we have a lot of them and we claim nice daily prizes from staking them. I don't wish to bother with math and ROI for people who decide to buy casino tokens, it's nice when we play & mine those tokens and collect rewards. Those who don't like it can sell their tokens and move to something else.
legendary
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Maybe I'm wrong in my analysis, but for the time I've been on this forum I've noticed that signature campaigns that are run for a short period of time, something like less than 1 month, in most cases are because the company wants results quick, the company is desperate for quick customers and hires the campaign manager with the hope that in 1 week of running the campaign he will have a lot of customers, and when a week goes by and he doesn't see many customers and he looks at the money spent on the campaign, he hopes 1 more week and after not seeing results again then the company cancels the signature campaign.
You can't conclude when you are not part of the casino or the campaign manager who held the signature campaign, because they are the ones who best understand why there are casinos that hold very short campaigns, you can only guess. All companies hope for success in promotions as quickly as possible no matter how much money they have, because if the short time does not guarantee success, neither does the long term because casino success is not only from the campaigns they hold on this forum but also from other things, because players don't just come from this forum.
legendary
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Betfury's Terms of Service specify too large a list of countries whose users are not allowed to use their platform. I think that Betfury, as well as some other gambling platforms, just turn a blind eye to the fact that some users use VPNs to bypass formal restrictions. I mean, if Betfury would really scrupulously control the geo-location of users, there would be very little activity on their site.
I don't think that many of these sites even care if people log in from restricted countries without vpn as long as they don't admit they are from restricted location. I remember looking at some casinos with website's traffic analyzer while ago, and saw that sometimes the major traffic came from casino's restricted countries. If that traffic was indeed gamblers from those countries, i am thinking at some point something is going to be done about it. 

I am not judging anyone for doing that, but personally i wouldn't have the guts to wait for the day i get banned, and there would be nothing i could do it if i violated their ToS such a major way.
hero member
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Maybe I'm wrong in my analysis, but for the time I've been on this forum I've noticed that signature campaigns that are run for a short period of time, something like less than 1 month, in most cases are because the company wants results quick, the company is desperate for quick customers and hires the campaign manager with the hope that in 1 week of running the campaign he will have a lot of customers, and when a week goes by and he doesn't see many customers and he looks at the money spent on the campaign, he hopes 1 more week and after not seeing results again then the company cancels the signature campaign.

In other words, short-term signature campaign end due to lack of funds and lack of long-term marketing planning on the part of companies. Everyone knows that a company needs a long-term marketing campaign, because the market is very competitive. So when a company fails to have funds to run continuous marketing for the long term, then the financial health of that company is not very good, it means that that company is running on very tight revenues in which they need to save money for operational costs and have a low profit. I don't want to say that the casino is in this situation, I'm just talking about what I've seen in most cases of companies that are unable to have funds for long-term marketing
I think those campaigns were cancelled or stopped because of lack of long term plan. Because if a campaign advertisement was plan for a long term then there is no way the campaign would stopped half way. When TrustDice came, it was a new campaign came to the forum and that was 2022 and it is running till now and they have gotten enough customers. If a casino company launched a campaign and expecting traffic within 1 one month is even wrong because because within this period gamblers that are using other casinos are looking or observing the casino and it f the casino stop within 1 one month then many gamblers would conclude that this casino is good to use so let me continue with the one that is active here.

If a casino doesn't have enough funds to run a long term campaign then they should not launch the campaign yet but they can create their ANN thread here and continue discussing how the site is and through there too some gamblers can check out the site. Until when they are fully ready for the long term marketing then they can launch the campaign. And when a campaign run for long term and from the the second year, it would have enough customers.
legendary
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now casino tokens have major limitations and risks, just see that their signature campaign didn't even run for 2 months, this shows that the casino is not making high profits to the point of having large funds for marketing, some people might think that this would not be a reason for warning because the casino works very well: people do not have problems with deposits and withdrawals and in games

If I'm not mistaken, only Betfury's first signature campaign on this forum was more or less long, and all their other campaigns were short. The fact that their last signature campaign lasted only 2 weeks means nothing about whether they have a lot of money for marketing or not. Their marketing team is probably looking for different ways to promote the current event. At least I recently saw their promotional post in one of the crypto telegram channels.

Maybe I'm wrong in my analysis, but for the time I've been on this forum I've noticed that signature campaigns that are run for a short period of time, something like less than 1 month, in most cases are because the company wants results quick, the company is desperate for quick customers and hires the campaign manager with the hope that in 1 week of running the campaign he will have a lot of customers, and when a week goes by and he doesn't see many customers and he looks at the money spent on the campaign, he hopes 1 more week and after not seeing results again then the company cancels the signature campaign.

In other words, short-term signature campaign end due to lack of funds and lack of long-term marketing planning on the part of companies. Everyone knows that a company needs a long-term marketing campaign, because the market is very competitive. So when a company fails to have funds to run continuous marketing for the long term, then the financial health of that company is not very good, it means that that company is running on very tight revenues in which they need to save money for operational costs and have a low profit. I don't want to say that the casino is in this situation, I'm just talking about what I've seen in most cases of companies that are unable to have funds for long-term marketing

I was not thinking of Betfury to run that campaign for just 2 weeks because Betfury is not a company that just come to the forum or the system, but it has been in the forum for years now so I was expecting them to stay for like a minimum of 2 years to make their advertisement because they even just launched their airdrop in telegram and tht means they need more marketing to increase the participation but everything was short live. Well it might be tht their marketing budget was not big enough to run the campaign for a long time.

In my case, I'm honestly not surprised by the fact that they don't even have a long-term signature campaign, because even being active on the forum took a while for them to disappear. they have the token, we all know that token creators have a lot of money when they create tokens and then disappear, they stay on X giving news to see if the price of the token goes up. just go to the altcoins section and you will see this. So I see the casino not caring much about this marketing part because they are establishing themselves, they have a certain number of fixed customers and they don't have goals of being the biggest casino. So they will not run medium or long-term marketing campaigns here on the forum and probably not even outside the forum. There is nothing wrong with that. As I said, the casino is running smoothly for people
hero member
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I was not thinking of Betfury to run that campaign for just 2 weeks because Betfury is not a company that just come to the forum or the system, but it has been in the forum for years now so I was expecting them to stay for like a minimum of 2 years to make their advertisement because they even just launched their airdrop in telegram and tht means they need more marketing to increase the participation but everything was short live. Well it might be tht their marketing budget was not big enough to run the campaign for a long time.
If I'm not mistaken, the campaign manager makes the campaign status HOLD. Of course, this is related to the funds in escrow which are limited to 2 weeks only.
I'm sure the campaign manager has contacted the marketing team about whether the campaign will continue. Maybe there has been no further discussion or reply from the team which means the campaign status has not been changed.
legendary
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I was not thinking of Betfury to run that campaign for just 2 weeks because Betfury is not a company that just come to the forum or the system, but it has been in the forum for years now so I was expecting them to stay for like a minimum of 2 years to make their advertisement because they even just launched their airdrop in telegram and tht means they need more marketing to increase the participation but everything was short live. Well it might be tht their marketing budget was not big enough to run the campaign for a long time.
sr. member
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now casino tokens have major limitations and risks, just see that their signature campaign didn't even run for 2 months, this shows that the casino is not making high profits to the point of having large funds for marketing, some people might think that this would not be a reason for warning because the casino works very well: people do not have problems with deposits and withdrawals and in games

If I'm not mistaken, only Betfury's first signature campaign on this forum was more or less long, and all their other campaigns were short. The fact that their last signature campaign lasted only 2 weeks means nothing about whether they have a lot of money for marketing or not. Their marketing team is probably looking for different ways to promote the current event. At least I recently saw their promotional post in one of the crypto telegram channels.

Maybe they only need 2 weeks to promote their latest promotion that's why it only last for few weeks. But now we don't see any marketing efforts done and they are back for relying on people discussion then their thread will be up and get an exposure due to that situation.

But who knows maybe after what they have done earlier maybe they would realize again that its good to market their casino in this forum. Maybe they are looking for different ways and I guess they should try to grab a banner ads from famous site which other big casinos do since for sure they can also get lots of exposure from those well known sites.  I don't know if they have marketing funds issue but if they could just separate some money for that use then provably that they can maximize their exposure then maybe gather a lot more gamblers to play on their casino.
legendary
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now casino tokens have major limitations and risks, just see that their signature campaign didn't even run for 2 months, this shows that the casino is not making high profits to the point of having large funds for marketing, some people might think that this would not be a reason for warning because the casino works very well: people do not have problems with deposits and withdrawals and in games

If I'm not mistaken, only Betfury's first signature campaign on this forum was more or less long, and all their other campaigns were short. The fact that their last signature campaign lasted only 2 weeks means nothing about whether they have a lot of money for marketing or not. Their marketing team is probably looking for different ways to promote the current event. At least I recently saw their promotional post in one of the crypto telegram channels.
legendary
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That's what I'm a bit curious with this statement.
Besides, in my region Betfury works only through VPN.

Because the way I understand it, gambling maybe illegal in their country, so using a VPN to access it would violate the TOS since it bypasses restrictions.

It is funny that most of the online crypto casinos are banned in my country, and I can play all the games, but sports betting is restricted. I can play all games and place bets on duelbits ( *cough* *promo* *cough* Cheesy), but stake.com for example is fully inaccessible without VPN. And sometimes I can open Roobet page, sometimes I get restricted on index page.

Are you guys participating in their telegram game? Have you collected many coins already? Strange that BetFury has paused signature campaign that was to promote that thing.

I don't participate in their telegram game, I also don't have any tokens because I see the advantage of keeping casino tokens, my purpose when I go to play is to have fun, even when I lose I don't get stuck, when I put money into my account. bank to make investments in cryptocurrencies, I only look at bitcoin and aim for a profit of 3x to 4x in 3 years, if it goes up more than that I will be happier, if it is the maximum that the price of bitcoin reaches I will also be happy. now casino tokens have major limitations and risks, just see that their signature campaign didn't even run for 2 months, this shows that the casino is not making high profits to the point of having large funds for marketing, some people might think that this would not be a reason for warning because the casino works very well: people do not have problems with deposits and withdrawals and in games

something that I congratulate a lot on, without a doubt that everything is going well in this part, but as for the token price part, you should always be very careful, you shouldn't put too much money in and you shouldn't put too many expectations that the Investing in the token will result in high profits, because the person will not. There are many casinos and more casinos are still coming, the market is very competitive and only a few casinos are financially well off to the point of having funds for marketing in a stable and long-term manner.
hero member
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All in all, I believe that we are going to end up with BFG failing to go as high as we want it to be as long as this is the path. We need the team to figure out some sort of different path for it to take, some way to make it more popular, otherwise just like all other casino tokens, it is not going to end up with anything profitable at all, just seems not that enticing to anyone.

Many of us don't really care much about the price appreciation anymore tbh. Just letting them yield dividends.
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