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Quote from: Mahdirakib on October 27, 2021, 08:42:35 AM

Is it true? I haven't received any answer from Betja email support. Kindly post the screenshot of the reply here. Because, few other forum members has joined in the discussion and they have the rights to know the answer now. I checked the spam folder too but no message from Betja support.

Your email has been answered again check your inbox and spam again please. No one can exchange Free BTC on Betja, that is why you need to deposit before exchange. Max bet depends on the event and when you place a bet could be different too.

Quote from: 24Kt on October 26, 2021, 05:36:13 PM

@Betja, is there possibility that in the near future you can lowered it down to 50k sats? You have actually one of the casinos giving generous amount of sats in faucets. And you can actually level up using your winnings from claimed satoshis.

So for those who don't want to deposit yet, why not try increasing your level by betting all those winnings. Because as you level up you also increase the free satoshis from the faucet.

May you please elaborate that more, we could not understand what you're quite asking.

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Quote from: Betja.com on October 26, 2021, 11:43:40 PM

Your email was answered yesterday, In case you did not get that we can send a picture of it here or in PM to you.

Is it true? I haven't received any answer from Betja email support. Kindly post the screenshot of the reply here. Because, few other forum members has joined in the discussion and they have the rights to know the answer now. I checked the spam folder too but no message from Betja support.

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As we mentioned, there is no restriction on your account, you can bet (pre-match, live, multi ...) or Exchange if you want. you do not need to deposit, but when you asked for withdrawing your little amount in your balance ~snip~

Fully disagree with this bold part. I wouldn't come here with this matter if there was no restrictions. And I respect the rules of deposit for preventing the faucet abusers. But this isn't the only issue in my case. Restrictions has changed in my account on time to time.

Only pre-match bet was available. Multi and live match betting was disabled.
Live event betting option become available with lower max bet limit and exchange option disappeared from my account.
Exchanged option is back.
Multi bet is available from today but max bet limit is still lower than before.

The email I have sent to their support

. My betslip page was like this

. (Click on the image for full view).

Edit: There is a requirement of deposit for using the exchange

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on October 26, 2021, 04:45:37 PM

@TimeTeller, @Pmalek, @Jawhead999, @Haunebu, Read this reply of mine. I didn't expect to turn the faucet amount like that. I also said, I had the plan of making deposit. I have nothing to say newly here. However, I want to add that their email support hasn't responded me yet, it's almost 42 hours now. Why should I deposit there?

Your email was answered yesterday, In case you did not get that we can send a picture of it here or in PM to you. As we mentioned, there is no restriction on your account, you can bet (pre-match, live, multi ...) or Exchange if you want. you do not need to deposit, but when you asked for withdrawing your little amount in your balance that you got from Free BTC, one of our colleagues told you needed to deposit before that, as you see on our FAQ page. it is a general rule for everybody and not just you. let us know if you have any more questions.

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@Betja, is there possibility that in the near future you can lowered it down to 50k sats? You have actually one of the casinos giving generous amount of sats in faucets. And you can actually level up using your winnings from claimed satoshis.

So for those who don't want to deposit yet, why not try increasing your level by betting all those winnings. Because as you level up you also increase the free satoshis from the faucet.

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@TimeTeller, @Pmalek, @Jawhead999, @Haunebu, Read this reply of mine. I didn't expect to turn the faucet amount like that. I also said, I had the plan of making deposit. I have nothing to say newly here. However, I want to add that their email support hasn't responded me yet, it's almost 42 hours now. Why should I deposit there?

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Quote from: Pmalek on October 26, 2021, 03:29:33 AM

That's the point I was trying to make as well. If you allow people to use the faucet every hour (and you obviously do because that's the way it was set up), why restrict those who do it? If they can claim satoshis from the free BTC faucet, lose their bets, and keep claiming, why can't they also claim and win without getting restricted?

Your points are valid. However, this isn't something new or anything to be honest. Majority of the gambling sites(Fiat and Crypto) hate gamblers who solely try to earn from their sites through faucets, bonuses etc and avoid gambling as much as possible.

Makes sense since these are businesses basically. In this particular case though, they shouldn't have restricted @Mahdirakib's account which is an extreme step since he didn't cheat or anything.

They should lift the restrictions and allow him to fulfill the requirements needed to withdraw his winnings properly in my opinion.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on October 26, 2021, 02:26:59 AM

That's the point I was trying to make as well. If you allow people to use the faucet every hour (and you obviously do because that's the way it was set up), why restrict those who do it? If they can claim satoshis from the free BTC faucet, lose their bets, and keep claiming, why can't they also claim and win without getting restricted?

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As long as the casino doesn't have specific rules about faucet abuses, limitation profit can be withdrawed from faucet, restrict etc etc then it's mean the user deserve to withdraw any amount that he made and shouldn't be restricted.

There's only one requirement to able withdraw from faucet it's deposit minimum of 0.001 BTC and roll over it on >= 1.40 odds, I don't see any rules except that.

Just for reference

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Quote from: RapTarX on October 25, 2021, 01:46:06 PM

Man, many sites use this as a gesture or in most cases, to check out the site for newcomers but it's not for abuse (I really think it's kinda abuse). It's not a crime of course.

I wouldn't agree with that. One of the features of Betja is that it has a free BTC faucet that can be claimed every hour. The TOS and FAQ doesn't put limitations on the number of times a player can claim the faucet. Therefore, if someone wanted to, he could do that all the time and he would still not be breaking any of their terms. The only way to break the terms is by having multiple accounts that are abusing the faucet claims and that is not what is going on in this particular case.

Quote from: TimeTeller on October 25, 2021, 04:37:00 PM

Just wondering here, if you haven't made any deposit to your account, what will be your expectations here?
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But if you have no plans of depositing to their site, is it just wasting your time?

Maybe he wanted to deposit the required 0.001 BTC at one point in time, but since his account has been restricted, he isn't comfortable doing that anymore. I could understand that. The question is, will the restrictions be lifted if he makes a deposit?

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on October 25, 2021, 01:40:49 PM

Quote from: Pmalek on October 25, 2021, 01:53:47 AM

If Mahdirakib didn't break any rules with the free faucet claims, why is his account limited?
You either allow the players to claim the faucet once every hour or you don't. It seems deceiving that your rules state that players can, but if they do it successfully, you will place restrictions on their accounts.

Obviously I didn't break any of their rules. But it's true that I haven't made any deposit in my account. I claimed few faucets and reached above min withdrawal with some good bet selection. Don't know why they kept faucet on their site while they are addressing this kind of issue as a crime.

Quote from: Betja.com on October 25, 2021, 04:23:34 AM

No one is limited. when you have enough money to bet and you did not deposit, your faucet will be stopped automatically. this rule applies to users who just try to harvest faucet and withdraw and try it again and again. It is the bookie's right to stop or start any free services that it provides at any time. BetJa never mentioned paying faucets for lifetime

Didn't know that faucet claim option has been removed from my account. I just noticed it after watching your reply above. Cheesy

Now it looks like I'm in a prison. Betja has reduced my maximum bet limit as well. I'm wondering how much restrictions they have added to my account! I'm happy to take the leave from Betja now.

Not to mention, I have sent an email to Betja.com support more than 14 hours ago. And no reply yet Wink

Just wondering here, if you haven't made any deposit to your account, what will be your expectations here?
Because even if you bet and increase your vip status via using the claimed free satoshis and increased it many times, still you can't withdraw it in the future.
So either you deposit their minimum amount and wage it one time with their required odds or just be contented on what they implement on your account.
Though it doesn't say anywhere that you will be restricted with your bets if you are just using the claimed satoshis.
But if you have no plans of depositing to their site, is it just wasting your time?

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Quote from: Betja.com on October 25, 2021, 04:23:34 AM

No one is limited. when you have enough money to bet and you did not deposit, your faucet will be stopped automatically. this rule applies to users who just try to harvest faucet and withdraw and try it again and again. It is the bookie's right to stop or start any free services that it provides at any time. BetJa never mentioned paying faucets for lifetime

That makes enough sense. Why would anyone even harvest/abuse the faucet? You have the right to stop it anytime. But Pmalek probably said about the following part I have quoted and bold.

Quote from: Mahdirakib on October 24, 2021, 09:16:35 AM

But I found the restrictions in my account. There was no restrictions until the balance went above 120k satoshi. BetJA support isn't replying me now. As a result, I changed my plan of making the deposit and shared my experience here. They says the same thing, not the one which I'm asking for.

Why that account was restricted? If I'm correct, Mahdi Rakib said he doesn't have enough matches to place the bet even; isn't it a limitation? If so, why did you put that in his account? It really sounds ridiculous. Did you solve the issue already?

Quote from: Mahdirakib on October 25, 2021, 01:40:49 PM

Obviously I didn't break any of their rules. But it's true that I haven't made any deposit in my account. I claimed few faucets and reached above min withdrawal with some good bet selection. Don't know why they kept faucet on their site while they are addressing this kind of issue as a crime.

Man, many sites use this as a gesture or in most cases, to check out the site for newcomers but it's not for abuse (I really think it's kinda abuse). It's not a crime of course.

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Quote from: Pmalek on October 25, 2021, 01:53:47 AM

If Mahdirakib didn't break any rules with the free faucet claims, why is his account limited?
You either allow the players to claim the faucet once every hour or you don't. It seems deceiving that your rules state that players can, but if they do it successfully, you will place restrictions on their accounts.

Obviously I didn't break any of their rules. But it's true that I haven't made any deposit in my account. I claimed few faucets and reached above min withdrawal with some good bet selection. Don't know why they kept faucet on their site while they are addressing this kind of issue as a crime.

Quote from: Betja.com on October 25, 2021, 04:23:34 AM

No one is limited. when you have enough money to bet and you did not deposit, your faucet will be stopped automatically. this rule applies to users who just try to harvest faucet and withdraw and try it again and again. It is the bookie's right to stop or start any free services that it provides at any time. BetJa never mentioned paying faucets for lifetime

Didn't know that faucet claim option has been removed from my account. I just noticed it after watching your reply above. Cheesy

Now it looks like I'm in a prison. Betja has reduced my maximum bet limit as well. I'm wondering how much restrictions they have added to my account! I'm happy to take the leave from Betja now.

Not to mention, I have sent an email to Betja.com support more than 14 hours ago. And no reply yet Wink

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Quote from: Pmalek on October 25, 2021, 01:53:47 AM

That's OK, and that's stated in the rules. Does that rule apply every time someone wants to withdraw their winnings from free bets or only once? Let's say a player deposits 0.001 BTC, wins his bet, and withdraws his winnings from free bets. After some time, he wins enough BTC from the faucet again. Does he need to deposit 0.001 BTC one more time to withdraw his winnings?

Additionally, there is a minimum rollover odds of 1.40. Can a player submit two or more bets to reach the rollover requirements or does it have to be one bet? Can I place two bets with the deposited amount where the odds are 1.20 on both selections, for example?

If Mahdirakib didn't break any rules with the free faucet claims, why is his account limited?
You either allow the players to claim the faucet once every hour or you don't. It seems deceiving that your rules state that players can, but if they do it successfully, you will place restrictions on their accounts. Any more information you can tell us about that?

This deposit is just a one-time need.

All rollover amounts must be on odds >= 1.40

No one is limited. when you have enough money to bet and you did not deposit, your faucet will be stopped automatically. this rule applies to users who just try to harvest faucet and withdraw and try it again and again. It is the bookie's right to stop or start any free services that it provides at any time. BetJa never mentioned paying faucets for lifetime

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Quote from: Betja.com on October 24, 2021, 09:58:46 AM

For reducing the fraud of making more than one account for each user, just users who made a deposit (minimum of 0.001 BTC) and roll over it at least once (odds 1.40 and more), can withdraw the earning of Free BTC.

It was BetJA rule since the start.

That's OK, and that's stated in the rules. Does that rule apply every time someone wants to withdraw their winnings from free bets or only once? Let's say a player deposits 0.001 BTC, wins his bet, and withdraws his winnings from free bets. After some time, he wins enough BTC from the faucet again. Does he need to deposit 0.001 BTC one more time to withdraw his winnings?

Additionally, there is a minimum rollover odds of 1.40. Can a player submit two or more bets to reach the rollover requirements or does it have to be one bet? Can I place two bets with the deposited amount where the odds are 1.20 on both selections, for example?

If Mahdirakib didn't break any rules with the free faucet claims, why is his account limited?
You either allow the players to claim the faucet once every hour or you don't. It seems deceiving that your rules state that players can, but if they do it successfully, you will place restrictions on their accounts. Any more information you can tell us about that?

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Quote from: Betja.com on October 24, 2021, 09:58:46 AM

For reducing the fraud of making more than one account for each user, just users who made a deposit (minimum of 0.001 BTC) and roll over it at least once (odds 1.40 and more), can withdraw the earning of Free BTC.

I understand why you guys enforce these deposit and wagering requirements, but I feel that the deposit requirement is a bit high and should be lowered. $5 - $10 seems more reasonable in my opinion.

Quote from: Betja.com on October 24, 2021, 09:58:46 AM

Please send an email to support and explain your problem. it is the best way to get an answer.

He clearly mentioned that he tried contacting your support multiple times already and his problem remains unsolved. It seems that they aren't even replying anymore.

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Quote from: Beparanf on October 24, 2021, 07:44:00 AM

Do you made any deposit so far and also how much exactly is your balance on your Betja account? I'm a bit suspicious on this website after the recent complains about there promotion that they erase winners data on there leader board result. I have some balance too on my account there coming from faucet but I wonder if someone here already made a successful withdrawal without doing a deposit first.

For reducing the fraud of making more than one account for each user, just users who made a deposit (minimum of 0.001 BTC) and roll over it at least once (odds 1.40 and more), can withdraw the earning of Free BTC.

It was BetJA rule since the start.

Quote from: Mahdirakib on October 24, 2021, 09:16:35 AM

First of all, I was doing it for fun there and didn't expect to turn the faucet amount above min withdrawal limit. I haven't made any deposit yet. And Betja doesn't allow user to make withdrawal if they haven't made deposit of 0.001 BTC minimum. I was in touch with their support but they weren't giving the answer appropriately. I have mentioned it in the previous post.

I wanted to deposit in BTC too. But I found the restrictions in my account. There was no restrictions until the balance went above 120k satoshi. BetJA support isn't replying me now. As a result, I changed my plan of making the deposit and shared my experience here. They says the same thing, not the one which I'm asking for.

Please send an email to support and explain your problem. it is the best way to get an answer.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 24, 2021, 04:55:48 AM

Keep contacting their support and ask them to get rid of the restrictions after you satisfy the minimum deposit and wagering requirements asap.

Quote from: Strongkored on October 24, 2021, 07:04:00 AM

I have several thousand satoshi from the faucet and the winnings on the bet, currently not getting resitriction like you experienced ~snip~

Quote from: Beparanf on October 24, 2021, 07:44:00 AM

Do you made any deposit so far and also how much exactly is your balance on your Betja account? ~snip~ but I wonder if someone here already made a successful withdrawal without doing a deposit first.

First of all, I was doing it for fun there and didn't expect to turn the faucet amount above min withdrawal limit. I haven't made any deposit yet. And Betja doesn't allow user to make withdrawal if they haven't made deposit of 0.001 BTC minimum. I was in touch with their support but they weren't giving the answer appropriately. I have mentioned it in the previous post.

I wanted to deposit in BTC too. But I found the restrictions in my account. There was no restrictions until the balance went above 120k satoshi. BetJA support isn't replying me now. As a result, I changed my plan of making the deposit and shared my experience here. They says the same thing, not the one which I'm asking for.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on October 23, 2021, 10:15:32 AM

Anyone else facing it too?

I have several thousand satoshi from the faucet and the winnings on the bet, currently not getting resitriction like you experienced can still make multibet bets (currently doing it in EPL match) and also live events on tennis wta moscow and other bets, you should contact them continuously until you get the right answer, waiting for an update in this thread or also in the faucet FAQ so that it becomes clear.

Do you made any deposit so far and also how much exactly is your balance on your Betja account? I'm a bit suspicious on this website after the recent complains about there promotion that they erase winners data on there leader board result. I have some balance too on my account there coming from faucet but I wonder if someone here already made a successful withdrawal without doing a deposit first.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on October 23, 2021, 10:15:32 AM

Anyone else facing it too?

I have several thousand satoshi from the faucet and the winnings on the bet, currently not getting resitriction like you experienced can still make multibet bets (currently doing it in EPL match) and also live events on tennis wta moscow and other bets, you should contact them continuously until you get the right answer, waiting for an update in this thread or also in the faucet FAQ so that it becomes clear.

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Quote from: Mahdirakib on October 23, 2021, 10:15:32 AM

But now it looks like they have added some restrictions on my account. I'm unable to place bets on live events. Only pre-match bets are allowed for me. They aren't allowing me to place multi-bet as well. Anyone else facing it too?(Without having faucet balance like me). I have asked to their telegram support but not getting the appropriate answer. He is replying the same thing “You can bet on just events you see on bet slip”

This isn't surprising. Crypto gambling sites don't really like gamblers who rely on faucets in order to earn profits without risking anything. You got lucky which is why they shouldn't have placed these restrictions on your account.

Keep contacting their support and ask them to get rid of the restrictions after you satisfy the minimum deposit and wagering requirements asap.

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